Re: [arin-ppml] Revised - Draft Policy ARIN-2022-12: ARIN-2022-12: Direct Assignment Language Update

2022-11-04 Thread Owen DeLong via ARIN-PPML 
You’re making little sense here.

If we refer to ARIN issued, then we’re literally excluding addresses not issued 
by ARIN from the policy, which I believe is not the intent.

Owen


> On Nov 3, 2022, at 15:06, Fernando Frediani  wrote:
> 
> In the case where ARIN issued then let's keep calling it by its name, so 
> nobody can think otherwise and is always aware that something that was once 
> issued can be revoked if rules surrounding that are circumvented, because it 
> is not uncommon many thing that once issued that becomes a irrevocable 
> property and orgs can do whatever they want with resources regardless of the 
> policies.
> For other cases where not issued than can call something else like 
> ARIN-registered or something.
> 
> Fernando
> 
> On 03/11/2022 18:11, Owen DeLong via ARIN-PPML wrote:
>> Rather than “ARIN-issued”, I suggest either “ARIN-registered” or 
>> “ARIN-recorded” or “ARIN-managed”.
>> 
>> ARIN did not issue many of the allocations and assignments currently 
>> recorded in the ARIN database.
>> 
>> Otherwise, I support the policy as written. In fact, it is sufficiently 
>> non-operable in not changing the way in which ARIN manages the registry that 
>> I would even nominate it for consideration as an editorial change.
>> 
>> Owen
>> 
>> 
>>> On Nov 3, 2022, at 08:46, ARIN   wrote:
>>> 
>>> The following Draft Policy has been revised:
>>>  
>>> * ARIN-2022-12: Direct Assignment Language Update
>>>  
>>> Revised text is below and can be found at:
>>>  
>>> https://www.arin.net/participate/policy/drafts/2022_12/
>>>  
>>> You are encouraged to discuss all Draft Policies on PPML. The AC will 
>>> evaluate the discussion to assess the conformance of this Draft Policy with 
>>> ARIN's Principles of Internet number resource policy as stated in the 
>>> Policy Development Process (PDP). Specifically, these principles are:
>>>  
>>> * Enabling Fair and Impartial Number Resource Administration
>>> * Technically Sound
>>> * Supported by the Community
>>>  
>>> The PDP can be found at:
>>> https://www.arin.net/participate/policy/pdp/
>>>  
>>> Draft Policies and Proposals under discussion can be found at:
>>> https://www.arin.net/participate/policy/drafts/
>>>  
>>> Regards,
>>>  
>>> Sean Hopkins
>>> Senior Policy Analyst
>>> American Registry for Internet Numbers (ARIN)
>>>  
>>>  
>>>  
>>> Draft Policy ARIN-2022-12: ARIN-2022-12: Direct Assignment Language Update
>>>  
>>> Problem Statement:
>>>  
>>> As a result of ARIN’s fee harmonization direct assignments are no longer 
>>> being utilized within ARIN databases therefore language around that has 
>>> been deprecated and should be modernized.
>>>  
>>> Policy Statement:
>>>  
>>> Section 3.6.3:
>>>  
>>> Remove “direct assignment” from “This policy applies to every Organization 
>>> that has a direct assignment, direct allocation, or AS number from ARIN (or 
>>> one of its predecessor registries) or a reallocation from an upstream ISP.”
>>>  
>>> Section 4.2.2, paragraph 1: change “direct assignments or allocations” to 
>>> “ARIN-issued IPv4 addresses”
>>>  
>>> Section 4.2.2, paragraph 2: change “direct allocations, direct assignments, 
>>> re-allocations or reassignments” to “ARIN-issued IPv4 addresses, 
>>> re-allocations or reassignments”
>>>  
>>> Section 4.3.2: change “direct assignments or allocations” to “ARIN-issued 
>>> IPv4 addresses”
>>>  
>>> Section 6.5.8: change “Direct Assignments from ARIN to End-user 
>>> Organizations” to “End-user Allocations”
>>>  
>>> Section 8.5.4: change “direct assignments or allocations” to “ARIN-issued 
>>> IPv4 addresses”
>>>  
>>> Section 8.5.6: change “direct assignments or allocations” to “ARIN-issued 
>>> IPv4 addresses”
>>>  
>>> Timetable for Implementation: Immediate
>>>  
>>>  
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Re: [arin-ppml] Revised - Draft Policy ARIN-2022-12: ARIN-2022-12: Direct Assignment Language Update

2022-11-03 Thread Fernando Frediani 
In the case where ARIN issued then let's keep calling it by its name, so 
nobody can think otherwise and is always aware that something that was 
once issued can be revoked if rules surrounding that are circumvented, 
because it is not uncommon many thing that once issued that becomes a 
irrevocable property and orgs can do whatever they want with resources 
regardless of the policies.
For other cases where not issued than can call something else like 
ARIN-registered or something.


Fernando

On 03/11/2022 18:11, Owen DeLong via ARIN-PPML wrote:
Rather than “ARIN-issued”, I suggest either “ARIN-registered” or 
“ARIN-recorded” or “ARIN-managed”.


ARIN did not issue many of the allocations and assignments currently 
recorded in the ARIN database.


Otherwise, I support the policy as written. In fact, it is 
sufficiently non-operable in not changing the way in which ARIN 
manages the registry that I would even nominate it for consideration 
as an editorial change.


Owen



On Nov 3, 2022, at 08:46, ARIN  wrote:

The following Draft Policy has been revised:
* ARIN-2022-12: Direct Assignment Language Update
Revised text is below and can be found at:
https://www.arin.net/participate/policy/drafts/2022_12/
You are encouraged to discuss all Draft Policies on PPML. The AC will 
evaluate the discussion to assess the conformance of this Draft 
Policy with ARIN's Principles of Internet number resource policy as 
stated in the Policy Development Process (PDP). Specifically, these 
principles are:

* Enabling Fair and Impartial Number Resource Administration
* Technically Sound
* Supported by the Community
The PDP can be found at:
https://www.arin.net/participate/policy/pdp/
Draft Policies and Proposals under discussion can be found at:
https://www.arin.net/participate/policy/drafts/
Regards,
Sean Hopkins
Senior Policy Analyst
American Registry for Internet Numbers (ARIN)
Draft Policy ARIN-2022-12: ARIN-2022-12: Direct Assignment Language 
Update

Problem Statement:
As a result of ARIN’s fee harmonization direct assignments are no 
longer being utilized within ARIN databases therefore language around 
that has been deprecated and should be modernized.

Policy Statement:
Section 3.6.3:
Remove “direct assignment” from “This policy applies to every 
Organization that has a direct assignment, direct allocation, or AS 
number from ARIN (or one of its predecessor registries) or a 
reallocation from an upstream ISP.”
Section 4.2.2, paragraph 1: change “direct assignments or 
allocations” to “ARIN-issued IPv4 addresses”
Section 4.2.2, paragraph 2: change “direct allocations, direct 
assignments, re-allocations or reassignments” to “ARIN-issued IPv4 
addresses, re-allocations or reassignments”
Section 4.3.2: change “direct assignments or allocations” to 
“ARIN-issued IPv4 addresses”
Section 6.5.8: change “Direct Assignments from ARIN to End-user 
Organizations” to “End-user Allocations”
Section 8.5.4: change “direct assignments or allocations” to 
“ARIN-issued IPv4 addresses”
Section 8.5.6: change “direct assignments or allocations” to 
“ARIN-issued IPv4 addresses”

Timetable for Implementation: Immediate
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Re: [arin-ppml] Revised - Draft Policy ARIN-2022-12: ARIN-2022-12: Direct Assignment Language Update

2022-11-03 Thread Owen DeLong via ARIN-PPML 
No, I think the end result would be “6.5.8: End-user Allocations”.

Owen


> On Nov 3, 2022, at 10:47, Brian Jones  wrote:
> 
> 
> 
> 
>> On Nov 3, 2022, at 11:46 AM, ARIN mailto:i...@arin.net>> 
>> wrote:
>> 
>> Section 6.5.8: change “Direct Assignments from ARIN to End-user 
>> Organizations” to “End-user Allocations”
>>  
> 
> So the end result would be “End-user Allocations to End-user Organizations” 
> in section 6.5.8?  Not sure that Header reads well. If it is just “End-user 
> Allocations” then I’m in favor of all the mentioned changes for Draft Policy 
> ARIN-2022-12.
> 
> 
> 
> Brian Jones
> Virginia Tech
> ARIN Advisory Council
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Re: [arin-ppml] Revised - Draft Policy ARIN-2022-12: ARIN-2022-12: Direct Assignment Language Update

2022-11-03 Thread Owen DeLong via ARIN-PPML 
Rather than “ARIN-issued”, I suggest either “ARIN-registered” or 
“ARIN-recorded” or “ARIN-managed”.

ARIN did not issue many of the allocations and assignments currently recorded 
in the ARIN database.

Otherwise, I support the policy as written. In fact, it is sufficiently 
non-operable in not changing the way in which ARIN manages the registry that I 
would even nominate it for consideration as an editorial change.

Owen


> On Nov 3, 2022, at 08:46, ARIN  wrote:
> 
> The following Draft Policy has been revised:
>  
> * ARIN-2022-12: Direct Assignment Language Update
>  
> Revised text is below and can be found at:
>  
> https://www.arin.net/participate/policy/drafts/2022_12/
>  
> You are encouraged to discuss all Draft Policies on PPML. The AC will 
> evaluate the discussion to assess the conformance of this Draft Policy with 
> ARIN's Principles of Internet number resource policy as stated in the Policy 
> Development Process (PDP). Specifically, these principles are:
>  
> * Enabling Fair and Impartial Number Resource Administration
> * Technically Sound
> * Supported by the Community
>  
> The PDP can be found at:
> https://www.arin.net/participate/policy/pdp/
>  
> Draft Policies and Proposals under discussion can be found at:
> https://www.arin.net/participate/policy/drafts/
>  
> Regards,
>  
> Sean Hopkins
> Senior Policy Analyst
> American Registry for Internet Numbers (ARIN)
>  
>  
>  
> Draft Policy ARIN-2022-12: ARIN-2022-12: Direct Assignment Language Update
>  
> Problem Statement:
>  
> As a result of ARIN’s fee harmonization direct assignments are no longer 
> being utilized within ARIN databases therefore language around that has been 
> deprecated and should be modernized.
>  
> Policy Statement:
>  
> Section 3.6.3:
>  
> Remove “direct assignment” from “This policy applies to every Organization 
> that has a direct assignment, direct allocation, or AS number from ARIN (or 
> one of its predecessor registries) or a reallocation from an upstream ISP.”
>  
> Section 4.2.2, paragraph 1: change “direct assignments or allocations” to 
> “ARIN-issued IPv4 addresses”
>  
> Section 4.2.2, paragraph 2: change “direct allocations, direct assignments, 
> re-allocations or reassignments” to “ARIN-issued IPv4 addresses, 
> re-allocations or reassignments”
>  
> Section 4.3.2: change “direct assignments or allocations” to “ARIN-issued 
> IPv4 addresses”
>  
> Section 6.5.8: change “Direct Assignments from ARIN to End-user 
> Organizations” to “End-user Allocations”
>  
> Section 8.5.4: change “direct assignments or allocations” to “ARIN-issued 
> IPv4 addresses”
>  
> Section 8.5.6: change “direct assignments or allocations” to “ARIN-issued 
> IPv4 addresses”
>  
> Timetable for Implementation: Immediate
>  
>  
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Re: [arin-ppml] Revised - Draft Policy ARIN-2022-12: ARIN-2022-12: Direct Assignment Language Update

2022-11-03 Thread Brian Jones 



> On Nov 3, 2022, at 11:46 AM, ARIN  wrote:
> 
> Section 6.5.8: change “Direct Assignments from ARIN to End-user 
> Organizations” to “End-user Allocations”
> 

So the end result would be “End-user Allocations to End-user Organizations” in 
section 6.5.8?  Not sure that Header reads well. If it is just “End-user 
Allocations” then I’m in favor of all the mentioned changes for Draft Policy 
ARIN-2022-12.



Brian Jones
Virginia Tech
ARIN Advisory Council


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[arin-ppml] Revised - Draft Policy ARIN-2022-12: ARIN-2022-12: Direct Assignment Language Update

2022-11-03 Thread ARIN 
The following Draft Policy has been revised:

 

* ARIN-2022-12: Direct Assignment Language Update

 

Revised text is below and can be found at:

 

https://www.arin.net/participate/policy/drafts/2022_12/

 

You are encouraged to discuss all Draft Policies on PPML. The AC will evaluate 
the discussion to assess the conformance of this Draft Policy with ARIN's 
Principles of Internet number resource policy as stated in the Policy 
Development Process (PDP). Specifically, these principles are:

 

* Enabling Fair and Impartial Number Resource Administration

* Technically Sound

* Supported by the Community

 

The PDP can be found at:

https://www.arin.net/participate/policy/pdp/

 

Draft Policies and Proposals under discussion can be found at:

https://www.arin.net/participate/policy/drafts/

 

Regards,

 

Sean Hopkins

Senior Policy Analyst

American Registry for Internet Numbers (ARIN)

 

 

 

Draft Policy ARIN-2022-12: ARIN-2022-12: Direct Assignment Language Update

 

Problem Statement:

 

As a result of ARIN’s fee harmonization direct assignments are no longer being 
utilized within ARIN databases therefore language around that has been 
deprecated and should be modernized.

 

Policy Statement:

 

Section 3.6.3:

 

Remove “direct assignment” from “This policy applies to every Organization that 
has a direct assignment, direct allocation, or AS number from ARIN (or one of 
its predecessor registries) or a reallocation from an upstream ISP.”

 

Section 4.2.2, paragraph 1: change “direct assignments or allocations” to 
“ARIN-issued IPv4 addresses”

 

Section 4.2.2, paragraph 2: change “direct allocations, direct assignments, 
re-allocations or reassignments” to “ARIN-issued IPv4 addresses, re-allocations 
or reassignments”

 

Section 4.3.2: change “direct assignments or allocations” to “ARIN-issued IPv4 
addresses”

 

Section 6.5.8: change “Direct Assignments from ARIN to End-user Organizations” 
to “End-user Allocations”

 

Section 8.5.4: change “direct assignments or allocations” to “ARIN-issued IPv4 
addresses”

 

Section 8.5.6: change “direct assignments or allocations” to “ARIN-issued IPv4 
addresses”

 

Timetable for Implementation: Immediate

 

 

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