[fedora-arm] NanoPI R2S - support in Fedora

2021-11-30 Thread Brandon Johnson
I'm trying to get Fedora 35 (Server and IoT) working on the NanoPI R2S.  It 
looks like it is in Uboot tools but the board isn't listed as a supported board 
in arm-image-installer.  I added my own board file since it is just a Rockchip 
SOC. I've add good results doing that with its big brother, the NanoPI R4S.  I 
just ordered a serial cable to see if I can debug this, but I wanted to just 
see if anyone has had any luck with this board.
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[fedora-arm] Re: Fedora support for NanoPi-R1?

2021-11-30 Thread Peter Robinson
On Tue, Nov 30, 2021 at 2:19 PM Derek Atkins  wrote:
>
>
> On Tue, November 30, 2021 8:53 am, Peter Robinson wrote:
>
> >> I've been using Wandboards, which I've liked, but I discovered that what
> >> I
> >> was using just wasn't powerful enough to do what I wanted to do..  So I
> >> was looking for replacements for my wandboards.  I have a handful of
> >> these
> >> R1 devices from work, so I've been able to play with them and verify
> >> that,
> >> yes, it can do what I want and perform much better than the wandboard
> >> quad
> >> did.
> >
> > The R1 is based on a Allwinner H3, it's a quad core Cortex-A7, it's
> > not really any more powerful than the quad core Wandboard TBH.
>
> Perhaps, but it IS faster/more powerful.  Not that you can trust the
> "bogomips" results, but the R1 definitely reports a "higher" number ;)
> Specifically, the WB reports 6, and the R1 reports 64.
> And I was able to get more audio streams through the R1 than the Wandboard
> running shairport-sync.
>
> On the other hand, I do need to go verify that I *WAS* running a quad
> wandboard for that server; I honestly don't recall now (and the device is
> now offline) so I can't quickly check.
>
> >> Let me turn this around; what board (with case) would *YOU* recommend
> >> for
> >> some small, low-power arm-based server platforms?
> >
> > I always reply to that with the question what are you doing with them?
> > What are your feature requirements? Eth? Dual eth? WiFi, etc.
>
> I've got three ARM systems deployed right now:
> 1) DHCP/DNS/Unifi Controller
> 2) Asterisk
> 3) My shairport-sync server (~16 streams)
>
> Right now I've got #3 on an R1 with Armbian Buster -- the only
> non-RPM-based distro I'm running!
>
> #2 is fine as a wandboard quad.  I'm not having issues there.
>
> #1 is running on a Wandboard Quad, which has 2GB RAM.  Currently it is
> reporting:
>
> [~]# free
>   totalusedfree  shared  buff/cache
> available
> Mem:2061172  871612  140692 804 1048868
> 1162612
> Swap:982420   11008  971412
>
> Granted, it works here, but I'd like to "update" from the old version of
> Fedora running there onto a newer version, but the main issue is the unifi
> controller.  The issue was with mongodb-server, where I had to rebuild it
> myself to get it to work on the platform.  If I'm going to upgrade to F35
> on the WB I might need to do that again (unless it will continue to
> support mongodb 4.0.3).
>
> Unfortunately there is still not an armhfp build of mongo -- although
> there is one for aarch64, so if I stay with that (instead of aarch64) I'll
> still have to rebuild mongo again -- so I guess to replace this system I'd
> want an aarch64 board with sufficient RAM to run mongo and unifi.  I don't
> mind using an SD for storage (certainly for mongo).  The system currently
> uses 6G of storage, which would fill most of the 8G eMMC devices.  But I
> am concerned about the 1G.

There will never be mongodb for 32 bit, it's architecture doesn't allow it.

Personally 32 bit is basically coming to an end, we're proposing
retiring it from Fedora 37, which means Fedora 36, supported until
June 2023 will be the last release that's supported.

I would probably suggest a Raspberry Pi 4, you can get with up to 8GB
of RAM and they work well now for non graphical applications.

[1] https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes/RetireARMv7
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[fedora-arm] Re: Fedora support for NanoPi-R1?

2021-11-30 Thread Derek Atkins

On Tue, November 30, 2021 9:19 am, Derek Atkins wrote:
>
[snip]
> Granted, it works here, but I'd like to "update" from the old version of
> Fedora running there onto a newer version, but the main issue is the
> unifi
> controller.  The issue was with mongodb-server, where I had to rebuild it
> myself to get it to work on the platform.  If I'm going to upgrade to F35
> on the WB I might need to do that again (unless it will continue to
> support mongodb 4.0.3).
>
> Unfortunately there is still not an armhfp build of mongo -- although
> there is one for aarch64, so if I stay with that (instead of aarch64)
> I'll
> still have to rebuild mongo again -- so I guess to replace this system
> I'd
> want an aarch64 board with sufficient RAM to run mongo and unifi.  I
> don't
> mind using an SD for storage (certainly for mongo).  The system currently
> uses 6G of storage, which would fill most of the 8G eMMC devices.  But I
> am concerned about the 1G.

Actually, looking at Mongo's site, they only started supporting AArch64
for mongodb 4.4, and it's unclear if Unifi Controller supports that!  I
built 4.0 and have been running with that, so even going to an aarch64
platform might not suffice.   So it might not even matter.  :-(

-derek

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[fedora-arm] Re: Fedora support for NanoPi-R1?

2021-11-30 Thread Derek Atkins

On Tue, November 30, 2021 8:53 am, Peter Robinson wrote:

>> I've been using Wandboards, which I've liked, but I discovered that what
>> I
>> was using just wasn't powerful enough to do what I wanted to do..  So I
>> was looking for replacements for my wandboards.  I have a handful of
>> these
>> R1 devices from work, so I've been able to play with them and verify
>> that,
>> yes, it can do what I want and perform much better than the wandboard
>> quad
>> did.
>
> The R1 is based on a Allwinner H3, it's a quad core Cortex-A7, it's
> not really any more powerful than the quad core Wandboard TBH.

Perhaps, but it IS faster/more powerful.  Not that you can trust the
"bogomips" results, but the R1 definitely reports a "higher" number ;)
Specifically, the WB reports 6, and the R1 reports 64.
And I was able to get more audio streams through the R1 than the Wandboard
running shairport-sync.

On the other hand, I do need to go verify that I *WAS* running a quad
wandboard for that server; I honestly don't recall now (and the device is
now offline) so I can't quickly check.

>> Let me turn this around; what board (with case) would *YOU* recommend
>> for
>> some small, low-power arm-based server platforms?
>
> I always reply to that with the question what are you doing with them?
> What are your feature requirements? Eth? Dual eth? WiFi, etc.

I've got three ARM systems deployed right now:
1) DHCP/DNS/Unifi Controller
2) Asterisk
3) My shairport-sync server (~16 streams)

Right now I've got #3 on an R1 with Armbian Buster -- the only
non-RPM-based distro I'm running!

#2 is fine as a wandboard quad.  I'm not having issues there.

#1 is running on a Wandboard Quad, which has 2GB RAM.  Currently it is
reporting:

[~]# free
  totalusedfree  shared  buff/cache  
available
Mem:2061172  871612  140692 804 1048868
1162612
Swap:982420   11008  971412

Granted, it works here, but I'd like to "update" from the old version of
Fedora running there onto a newer version, but the main issue is the unifi
controller.  The issue was with mongodb-server, where I had to rebuild it
myself to get it to work on the platform.  If I'm going to upgrade to F35
on the WB I might need to do that again (unless it will continue to
support mongodb 4.0.3).

Unfortunately there is still not an armhfp build of mongo -- although
there is one for aarch64, so if I stay with that (instead of aarch64) I'll
still have to rebuild mongo again -- so I guess to replace this system I'd
want an aarch64 board with sufficient RAM to run mongo and unifi.  I don't
mind using an SD for storage (certainly for mongo).  The system currently
uses 6G of storage, which would fill most of the 8G eMMC devices.  But I
am concerned about the 1G.

-derek

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[fedora-arm] Re: Fedora support for NanoPi-R1?

2021-11-30 Thread Peter Robinson
> On Tue, November 30, 2021 8:32 am, Peter Robinson wrote:
> >> Looking at the --supported list in arm-image-installer I see a bunch of
> >> the NanoPi variations, except for the one I have (from work), the
> >> NanoPi-R1.
> >>
> >> I was able to get Armbian running on it without any issue, and it's
> >> running quite happily.  However, I would certainly much prefer to run
> >> Fedora.
> >>
> >> To that end, what would it take to get Fedora onto the device?
> >
> > There's no upstream support in U-Boot for the device, in the upstream
> > Linux kernel there is a device tree, so you may be able to use a 3rd
> > party U-Boot but YMMV.
>
> Well, I do have a "working" u-boot for the platform...  But yeah, it would
> certainly be "better" to have it upstream.  *sigh*
>
> I've been using Wandboards, which I've liked, but I discovered that what I
> was using just wasn't powerful enough to do what I wanted to do..  So I
> was looking for replacements for my wandboards.  I have a handful of these
> R1 devices from work, so I've been able to play with them and verify that,
> yes, it can do what I want and perform much better than the wandboard quad
> did.

The R1 is based on a Allwinner H3, it's a quad core Cortex-A7, it's
not really any more powerful than the quad core Wandboard TBH.

> Let me turn this around; what board (with case) would *YOU* recommend for
> some small, low-power arm-based server platforms?

I always reply to that with the question what are you doing with them?
What are your feature requirements? Eth? Dual eth? WiFi, etc.
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[fedora-arm] Re: Fedora support for NanoPi-R1?

2021-11-30 Thread Derek Atkins
Thanks Peter,

On Tue, November 30, 2021 8:32 am, Peter Robinson wrote:
>> Looking at the --supported list in arm-image-installer I see a bunch of
>> the NanoPi variations, except for the one I have (from work), the
>> NanoPi-R1.
>>
>> I was able to get Armbian running on it without any issue, and it's
>> running quite happily.  However, I would certainly much prefer to run
>> Fedora.
>>
>> To that end, what would it take to get Fedora onto the device?
>
> There's no upstream support in U-Boot for the device, in the upstream
> Linux kernel there is a device tree, so you may be able to use a 3rd
> party U-Boot but YMMV.

Well, I do have a "working" u-boot for the platform...  But yeah, it would
certainly be "better" to have it upstream.  *sigh*

I've been using Wandboards, which I've liked, but I discovered that what I
was using just wasn't powerful enough to do what I wanted to do..  So I
was looking for replacements for my wandboards.  I have a handful of these
R1 devices from work, so I've been able to play with them and verify that,
yes, it can do what I want and perform much better than the wandboard quad
did.

Let me turn this around; what board (with case) would *YOU* recommend for
some small, low-power arm-based server platforms?

-derek

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[fedora-arm] Re: Fedora support for NanoPi-R1?

2021-11-30 Thread Peter Robinson
> Looking at the --supported list in arm-image-installer I see a bunch of
> the NanoPi variations, except for the one I have (from work), the
> NanoPi-R1.
>
> I was able to get Armbian running on it without any issue, and it's
> running quite happily.  However, I would certainly much prefer to run
> Fedora.
>
> To that end, what would it take to get Fedora onto the device?

There's no upstream support in U-Boot for the device, in the upstream
Linux kernel there is a device tree, so you may be able to use a 3rd
party U-Boot but YMMV.

> -derek
>
> PS: I realize I could look at the Neo+ or M1+ which are supported, but
> those all appear to be a bare board and I can't (quickly) find those in a
> nice container like the R1 comes with.
>
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[fedora-arm] Fedora support for NanoPi-R1?

2021-11-30 Thread Derek Atkins
Hi,

Looking at the --supported list in arm-image-installer I see a bunch of
the NanoPi variations, except for the one I have (from work), the
NanoPi-R1.

I was able to get Armbian running on it without any issue, and it's
running quite happily.  However, I would certainly much prefer to run
Fedora.

To that end, what would it take to get Fedora onto the device?

-derek

PS: I realize I could look at the Neo+ or M1+ which are supported, but
those all appear to be a bare board and I can't (quickly) find those in a
nice container like the R1 comes with.

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   de...@ihtfp.com www.ihtfp.com
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