Re: [fedora-arm] Fedora 17 v6hl First Compose Image
Thank you! That worked! Although I got a nice ascii train picture flying by the screen... so Im not sure im not hacked.. Just FYI in /lib/modules there is 3.1.9 kruft lying around. From: M A Young m.a.yo...@durham.ac.uk To: Sean Omalley omalle...@rocketmail.com Cc: Jon Chiappetta jon.chiappe...@senecacollege.ca; arm arm@lists.fedoraproject.org Sent: Thursday, December 13, 2012 5:50 AM Subject: Re: [fedora-arm] Fedora 17 v6hl First Compose Image On Thu, 13 Dec 2012, Sean Omalley wrote: It is all good. I didn't expect it to be perfect by any means. :) I may have missed it. But how are you building these? I need the dev tools, at least enough to rebuild the kernel. ( I need to hardwire my wireless keyboard driver. It makes it less flaky...) Or can i just do it on the armv5 image with different flags? i don't have a cross compiler and such set up. (and if you have them build already, no sense in redoing it.) You can install extra v6hl packages that aren't in the image (see the first message of this thread) by running yum install -y --disablerepo=\* --enablerepo=fedora-rpfr packagename I pulled in gdm to get the graphical login working and gnome-terminal for a terminal, but dev packages are probably there as well. Note the kernel used by this image is the same kernel as the v5 image. Michael Young___ arm mailing list arm@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/arm
Re: [fedora-arm] Fedora 17 v6hl First Compose Image
On Fri, Dec 14, 2012 at 1:43 PM, Sean Omalley omalle...@rocketmail.com wrote: Although I got a nice ascii train picture flying by the screen... so Im not sure im not hacked.. Is that the steam locomotive that drives by if you type sl instead of ls (and have the sl package installed), by chance? -- Jared Smith ___ arm mailing list arm@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/arm
Re: [fedora-arm] Fedora 17 v6hl First Compose Image
On Thu, 13 Dec 2012, Sean Omalley wrote: It is all good. I didn't expect it to be perfect by any means. :) I may have missed it. But how are you building these? I need the dev tools, at least enough to rebuild the kernel. ( I need to hardwire my wireless keyboard driver. It makes it less flaky...) Or can i just do it on the armv5 image with different flags? i don't have a cross compiler and such set up. (and if you have them build already, no sense in redoing it.) You can install extra v6hl packages that aren't in the image (see the first message of this thread) by running yum install -y --disablerepo=\* --enablerepo=fedora-rpfr packagename I pulled in gdm to get the graphical login working and gnome-terminal for a terminal, but dev packages are probably there as well. Note the kernel used by this image is the same kernel as the v5 image. Michael Young___ arm mailing list arm@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/arm
Re: [fedora-arm] Fedora 17 v6hl First Compose Image
From: Sean Omalley omalle...@rocketmail.com To: arm@lists.fedoraproject.org arm@lists.fedoraproject.org Sent: Wednesday, December 12, 2012 9:53 AM Subject: [fedora-arm] Fedora 17 v6hl First Compose Image I tried the armv6 ([v6] http://142.204.133.82/tmp/v6/rpfr-10255.img.gz ) image on a new 512 pi. I tried to install the gui.. :) It looks like it mostly worked. It just hangs on X. The filesystem is there and resized, the kernel boots, etc. I am getting: [ 18.919] (EE) FBDEV(0): FBIOBLANK: Operation not permitted in the xorg.log If you do a cli install. startx craps out. but you can login at least. :) xinit connection to server lost, is the last thing on the screen. I kind of wonder if it is attaching to the wrong tty or device. --- I think this might be related to xterm not being found from a message in strace which means it isn't initing xcfe, and going straight to xterms.. I tried symlinking the xcfe-xterm4 thing to xterm it got a little further (the screen briefly turned colour before bombing.) ___ arm mailing list arm@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/arm
Re: [fedora-arm] Fedora 17 v6hl First Compose Image
It is all good. I didn't expect it to be perfect by any means. :) I may have missed it. But how are you building these? I need the dev tools, at least enough to rebuild the kernel. ( I need to hardwire my wireless keyboard driver. It makes it less flaky...) Or can i just do it on the armv5 image with different flags? i don't have a cross compiler and such set up. (and if you have them build already, no sense in redoing it.) From: Jon Chiappetta jon.chiappe...@senecacollege.ca To: arm arm@lists.fedoraproject.org Sent: Wednesday, December 12, 2012 6:28 PM Subject: [fedora-arm] Fedora 17 v6hl First Compose Image I think I should have mentioned that firstly, I am missing a huge number of packages because I manually unrolled the yum groups and also you have to startxfce4 manually by switching to another terminal once booted. I hope to get to another compose which helps to fix these issues. Sorry about that but thanks for your time. Jon Chiappetta ___ arm mailing list arm@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/arm___ arm mailing list arm@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/arm
Re: [fedora-arm] Fedora 17 v6hl First Compose Image
On Mon, 10 Dec 2012, Brendan Conoboy wrote: On 12/10/2012 10:31 AM, Jon Chiappetta wrote: I realize that these numbers seem very minor but I did notice a much faster drawing performance when firstboot was started compared to the v5 version of Fedora. Also, it takes away any excuses or doubt that we're slower than raspian because we're not v6hl. In addition, if v7hl gets moved over to primary one day, then Seneca can still run a farm that has v5 and v6 releases of Fedora. Thanks for your time and testing, I appreciate it as always. It looks like only bzip2 ran for long enough to make a valid comparison. I'd be interested in reproducing any of the benchmarks used here: http://www.memetic.org/raspbian-benchmarking-armel-vs-armhf/ Here are figures from a gtkperf run (both with 64M graphics memory). [v6] GtkPerf 0.40 - Starting testing: Tue Dec 11 10:10:59 2012 GtkEntry - time: 0.71 GtkComboBox - time: 15.70 GtkComboBoxEntry - time: 7.67 GtkSpinButton - time: 2.58 GtkProgressBar - time: 2.19 GtkToggleButton - time: 2.85 GtkCheckButton - time: 1.78 GtkRadioButton - time: 2.62 GtkTextView - Add text - time: 9.23 GtkTextView - Scroll - time: 4.81 GtkDrawingArea - Lines - time: 19.94 GtkDrawingArea - Circles - time: 24.97 GtkDrawingArea - Text - time: 14.61 GtkDrawingArea - Pixbufs - time: 1.60 --- Total time: 111.36 [v5] GtkPerf 0.40 - Starting testing: Tue Dec 11 10:25:41 2012 GtkEntry - time: 0.85 GtkComboBox - time: 22.03 GtkComboBoxEntry - time: 15.39 GtkSpinButton - time: 3.99 GtkProgressBar - time: 3.74 GtkToggleButton - time: 4.70 GtkCheckButton - time: 3.06 GtkRadioButton - time: 4.27 GtkTextView - Add text - time: 10.30 GtkTextView - Scroll - time: 6.54 GtkDrawingArea - Lines - time: 26.95 GtkDrawingArea - Circles - time: 33.74 GtkDrawingArea - Text - time: 16.88 GtkDrawingArea - Pixbufs - time: 1.72 --- Total time: 154.27 ___ arm mailing list arm@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/arm
Re: [fedora-arm] Fedora 17 v6hl First Compose Image
On 12/10/2012 10:31 AM, Jon Chiappetta wrote: I realize that these numbers seem very minor but I did notice a much faster drawing performance when firstboot was started compared to the v5 version of Fedora. Also, it takes away any excuses or doubt that we're slower than raspian because we're not v6hl. In addition, if v7hl gets moved over to primary one day, then Seneca can still run a farm that has v5 and v6 releases of Fedora. Thanks for your time and testing, I appreciate it as always. It looks like only bzip2 ran for long enough to make a valid comparison. I'd be interested in reproducing any of the benchmarks used here: http://www.memetic.org/raspbian-benchmarking-armel-vs-armhf/ The above shows the difference between armv4 soft float vs armv6 hard float. Presumably armv5 soft float to armv6 hard float will end up somewhere in-between these two points. The big question is where will it end up? If armv6 hard float is substantially similar to armv5 soft float that tells us that the raspbian benchmarks primarily benefited from the move off of armv4. If on the other hand we get significant benefit from armv6 hard float, we know either the hard float or the v5-v6 move was very important. Appreciate all the hard work you've put into bringing armv6hl online. We're just on the cusp of knowing how important it is to continue its pursuit. Keep going! -- Brendan Conoboy / Red Hat, Inc. / b...@redhat.com ___ arm mailing list arm@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/arm
Re: [fedora-arm] Fedora 17 v6hl First Compose Image
You might want to get some comments from Michael Hope on these numbers. The other using Thumb 2, right? Dave On Dec 8, 2012 8:39 PM, M A Young m.a.yo...@durham.ac.uk wrote: On Fri, 7 Dec 2012, Brendan Conoboy wrote: If you could run a few benchmarks between the v6 and v5 spins we'd all be *very* interested to know the difference in performance. Even simple stuff like time to bzip2 a cached file would be informative. Here are some very basic benchmark stats time bzip2 -9 initramfs-3.6.9-2.fc17.x86_**64.img /dev/null [v6] real1m7.734s user1m7.540s sys 0m0.160s [v5] real1m10.920s user1m10.650s sys 0m0.210s time md5sum initramfs-3.6.9-2.fc17.x86_64.**img /dev/null [v6] real0m0.431s user0m0.290s sys 0m0.130s [v5] real0m0.433s user0m0.270s sys 0m0.150s time sha256sum initramfs-3.6.9-2.fc17.x86_64.**img /dev/null [v6] real0m1.393s user0m1.240s sys 0m0.150s [v5] real0m1.436s user0m1.350s sys 0m0.080s __**_ arm mailing list arm@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.**org/mailman/listinfo/armhttps://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/arm ___ arm mailing list arm@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/arm
Re: [fedora-arm] Fedora 17 v6hl First Compose Image
I am not sure how much difference it makes but I have noticed that the kernel used by the v6 image is still armv5tel (everything else is armv6hl) so there might be a bit more performance gain possible. Michael Young ___ arm mailing list arm@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/arm
Re: [fedora-arm] Fedora 17 v6hl First Compose Image
On Sun, Dec 9, 2012 at 5:53 PM, M A Young m.a.yo...@durham.ac.uk wrote: I am not sure how much difference it makes but I have noticed that the kernel used by the v6 image is still armv5tel (everything else is armv6hl) so there might be a bit more performance gain possible. The kernel makes no difference. The armv5tel in the case of the kernel is really just a label for rpm to deal with as the kernel is build optimally for the platform that the kernel is designed for. Peter ___ arm mailing list arm@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/arm
Re: [fedora-arm] Fedora 17 v6hl First Compose Image
On 12/08/2012 08:38 PM, M A Young wrote: On Fri, 7 Dec 2012, Brendan Conoboy wrote: If you could run a few benchmarks between the v6 and v5 spins we'd all be *very* interested to know the difference in performance. Even simple stuff like time to bzip2 a cached file would be informative. Here are some very basic benchmark stats time bzip2 -9 initramfs-3.6.9-2.fc17.x86_64.img /dev/null [v6] real 1m7.734s user 1m7.540s sys 0m0.160s [v5] real 1m10.920s user 1m10.650s sys 0m0.210s time md5sum initramfs-3.6.9-2.fc17.x86_64.img /dev/null [v6] real 0m0.431s user 0m0.290s sys 0m0.130s [v5] real 0m0.433s user 0m0.270s sys 0m0.150s time sha256sum initramfs-3.6.9-2.fc17.x86_64.img /dev/null [v6] real 0m1.393s user 0m1.240s sys 0m0.150s [v5] real 0m1.436s user 0m1.350s sys 0m0.080s An earth shattering difference, then. This is the second time now that it has been demonstrated than having a armv6hl distro is a waste of time. Somebody rebuilt Debian for the Pi only in that case it was a difference between armel (armv4) and armv6hl, and the difference was similarly negligible. http://www.memetic.org/raspbian-benchmarking-armel-vs-armhf/ The only place where the difference is meaningful in their benchmarks was in AV transcoding which isn't a particularly obvious use-case for a Pi. The difference between armv5tel (what Fedora soft-float targets) and armv6hl is smaller. Gordan ___ arm mailing list arm@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/arm
Re: [fedora-arm] Fedora 17 v6hl First Compose Image
On Sat, Dec 8, 2012 at 8:38 PM, M A Young m.a.yo...@durham.ac.uk wrote: On Fri, 7 Dec 2012, Brendan Conoboy wrote: If you could run a few benchmarks between the v6 and v5 spins we'd all be *very* interested to know the difference in performance. Even simple stuff like time to bzip2 a cached file would be informative. Here are some very basic benchmark stats time bzip2 -9 initramfs-3.6.9-2.fc17.x86_64.img /dev/null [v6] real1m7.734s user1m7.540s sys 0m0.160s [v5] real1m10.920s user1m10.650s sys 0m0.210s time md5sum initramfs-3.6.9-2.fc17.x86_64.img /dev/null [v6] real0m0.431s user0m0.290s sys 0m0.130s [v5] real0m0.433s user0m0.270s sys 0m0.150s time sha256sum initramfs-3.6.9-2.fc17.x86_64.img /dev/null [v6] real0m1.393s user0m1.240s sys 0m0.150s [v5] real0m1.436s user0m1.350s sys 0m0.080s WOW! That's worth all the work! ___ arm mailing list arm@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/arm
Re: [fedora-arm] Fedora 17 v6hl First Compose Image
On Wed, 5 Dec 2012 18:20:20 + Jon Chiappetta jon.chiappe...@senecacollege.ca wrote: Hey everyone, I was finally able to create an initial image for the rasp pi v6hl. It's by no means ready but I'm trying to release early and release often so I'm sending this out now. I was wondering if anyone out there who had two Raspberry Pi's (with the same RAM count) could do a side-by-side comparison of our two Fedora 17 images (v5 vs v6)? Any feedback would greatly help us out. I installed this on my pi here... seems to work. ;) I've not done much pounding on it however, just light xfce running... kevin signature.asc Description: PGP signature ___ arm mailing list arm@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/arm
