Re: [Arm-netbook] Ubuntu Computer Card
2016-08-05 8:37 GMT+02:00 Christian Kellermann : > * KillerKink Goh [160805 07:45]: > > Any chance that there will be ubuntu-based computer card shipped as > default? > > There is already debian/fedora based. > > Hm, that would need a plethora of work atm. While there is an Ubuntu > ARM system targeted at ARMv7+ architectures one would need to add a > custom kernel package to it amonst other things. As noone has done so, > you'd either have to do it yourself or look for someone doing it. > > This might be a lot of work or it might not, depending on the state of > the Ubuntu ARM release. > http://linux-sunxi.org/Bootable_OS_images (none for EOMA-68 off course) http://linux-sunxi.org/Build_Instructions_for_Ubuntu > > But I would not expect Luke to put in this effort at this stage, since > there are a plethora of options available already, most respecting > your freedom better than Ubuntu. > I think so too > > Kind regards, > > Christian > > -- > May you be peaceful, may you live in safety, may you be free from > suffering, and may you live with ease. > > ___ > arm-netbook mailing list arm-netbook@lists.phcomp.co.uk > http://lists.phcomp.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/arm-netbook > Send large attachments to arm-netb...@files.phcomp.co.uk > ___ arm-netbook mailing list arm-netbook@lists.phcomp.co.uk http://lists.phcomp.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/arm-netbook Send large attachments to arm-netb...@files.phcomp.co.uk
Re: [Arm-netbook] Ubuntu Computer Card
* KillerKink Goh [160805 07:45]: > Any chance that there will be ubuntu-based computer card shipped as default? > There is already debian/fedora based. Hm, that would need a plethora of work atm. While there is an Ubuntu ARM system targeted at ARMv7+ architectures one would need to add a custom kernel package to it amonst other things. As noone has done so, you'd either have to do it yourself or look for someone doing it. This might be a lot of work or it might not, depending on the state of the Ubuntu ARM release. But I would not expect Luke to put in this effort at this stage, since there are a plethora of options available already, most respecting your freedom better than Ubuntu. Kind regards, Christian -- May you be peaceful, may you live in safety, may you be free from suffering, and may you live with ease. ___ arm-netbook mailing list arm-netbook@lists.phcomp.co.uk http://lists.phcomp.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/arm-netbook Send large attachments to arm-netb...@files.phcomp.co.uk
Re: [Arm-netbook] Ubuntu Computer Card
2016-08-05 7:44 GMT+02:00 KillerKink Goh : > > > Any chance that there will be ubuntu-based computer card shipped as > default? > > There is already debian/fedora based. > I Don't think so. Ubuntu is in no way FSF endorsable. Ubuntu has one-click access to non-free drivers and apps or even automated. Debian is already on the tipping point hence the "Practically Perfect" name. But Since Debian is running, installing Ubuntu should be possible. > > ___ > arm-netbook mailing list arm-netbook@lists.phcomp.co.uk > http://lists.phcomp.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/arm-netbook > Send large attachments to arm-netb...@files.phcomp.co.uk > ___ arm-netbook mailing list arm-netbook@lists.phcomp.co.uk http://lists.phcomp.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/arm-netbook Send large attachments to arm-netb...@files.phcomp.co.uk
[Arm-netbook] Ubuntu Computer Card
Any chance that there will be ubuntu-based computer card shipped as default? There is already debian/fedora based. ___ arm-netbook mailing list arm-netbook@lists.phcomp.co.uk http://lists.phcomp.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/arm-netbook Send large attachments to arm-netb...@files.phcomp.co.uk
Re: [Arm-netbook] Keyboard news
--- crowd-funded eco-conscious hardware: https://www.crowdsupply.com/eoma68 On Thu, Aug 4, 2016 at 10:40 PM, Albert ARIBAUD wrote: > Hi all, > > For those following dev on the EC, I've just tested transposing the > matrix rows and columns, which worked as expected, that is, exactly > the same as before transposing (including ghosting), but doing 40 GPIO > accesses for a whole scan instead of 64. ah fantastic. > The only problem I hit was specific to the NUCLEO: I had already > replaced keyboard GPIOs PA2, PA3 and PA5, which are used on the NUCLEO, > with PA13, PA14 and PA15, but I only just noticed that PA13 and PA14 are > also used (for ST-Link/V2.1) so I had to change again, this time for > PA8, PA9 and PA10 which are unused as far as I can tell from scrubbing > the NUCLEO reference manual. oops :) > I'll push the changes tomorrow. awesome. > I have not started implementing priority policy or ghost jamming yet, > because I'm still thinking over how to implement both in the most > economic way. would you be happy to do a quick video, put it on youtube? maximum 90 seconds. l. ___ arm-netbook mailing list arm-netbook@lists.phcomp.co.uk http://lists.phcomp.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/arm-netbook Send large attachments to arm-netb...@files.phcomp.co.uk
Re: [Arm-netbook] pass-through card
--- crowd-funded eco-conscious hardware: https://www.crowdsupply.com/eoma68 On Thu, Aug 4, 2016 at 7:25 PM, Wolfgang Romey wrote: > Am Donnerstag, 4. August 2016, 19:18:29 schrieb Luke Kenneth Casson Leighton: > >> > What's the use case for that? I may be missing something, but a >> > pass-through card in a Micro Desktop housing is at most like a 2 ports >> > USB hub and an HDMI to VGA converter for 90 $ ? >> >> ... exactly. it's possible but... ... why would you want to do >> it? i mean yeah if you already have the kit, fine, but it's not >> something i'd actively say to people "hey go get these it'll be worth >> it" whereas the laptop + passthrough card now that's really something. >> >> > For me it seems ataractive, if I could attach my taplet or smartphone too the > computer and use it whith keyboard, mouse and screen. yeahyeah, cool, huh? > But probably it is not > so important and atracitve, that it should be mentionend in the campaign. But > if someone askes, now I know. nods. ___ arm-netbook mailing list arm-netbook@lists.phcomp.co.uk http://lists.phcomp.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/arm-netbook Send large attachments to arm-netb...@files.phcomp.co.uk
Re: [Arm-netbook] laptop landfill ratio? ;-)
--- crowd-funded eco-conscious hardware: https://www.crowdsupply.com/eoma68 On Thu, Aug 4, 2016 at 8:18 PM, Xavi Drudis Ferran wrote: > A future EOMA-200 or whatever standard might allow for higher resolutions. yeah EOMA200 you can do 4x PCIe to an external Graphics Card. > Or at least that's what I understand from what I read. > > But I think 1366x768 is not disappointing, and it's quite in line with the > overall features. > You don't get this laptop for high end features, that's for sure. yeah if you're a developer you get it to run off-grid, or as a low-power long-life terminal to access faster servers, that sort of thing. l. ___ arm-netbook mailing list arm-netbook@lists.phcomp.co.uk http://lists.phcomp.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/arm-netbook Send large attachments to arm-netb...@files.phcomp.co.uk
Re: [Arm-netbook] laptop landfill ratio? ;-)
--- crowd-funded eco-conscious hardware: https://www.crowdsupply.com/eoma68 On Thu, Aug 4, 2016 at 8:03 PM, Wolfram Kahl wrote: > On Thu, Aug 04, 2016 at 07:14:11PM +0100, Luke Kenneth Casson Leighton wrote: >> >> the update for the 1080p60 video should be out by then, > > It has been mentioned occasionally that 1366x768 is a disappointing resolution > for a 15.6" laptop it's surprisingly useable, plus you always have the HDMI output if you need a 2nd (dual) screen or 1920x1080. > --- how much of the $450 ``PIY Laptop Housing Kit'' would be reusable > for a different display? if you didn't want to be EOMA68 compliant, you could re-use pretty much all of it and just redo PCB1 (the main board) which has the LVDS IC on it (SN75LVDS83b) and the step-up regulator for the LCD backlight. *HOWEVER*... you would *NEED* to find a max 4.5 watt LCD (max 4.5 watt including backlight) otherwise you would need to redesign the Power PCB. if you redesign the Power PCB that's a massive cascade effect where you now need to redesign the entire casework basically this casework is like for the "average person" doing a bit of email, internet browsing, printing documents, watching films and so on. it's in *no way* suited to software development, video editing and the like. l. ___ arm-netbook mailing list arm-netbook@lists.phcomp.co.uk http://lists.phcomp.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/arm-netbook Send large attachments to arm-netb...@files.phcomp.co.uk
[Arm-netbook] Keyboard news
Hi all, For those following dev on the EC, I've just tested transposing the matrix rows and columns, which worked as expected, that is, exactly the same as before transposing (including ghosting), but doing 40 GPIO accesses for a whole scan instead of 64. The only problem I hit was specific to the NUCLEO: I had already replaced keyboard GPIOs PA2, PA3 and PA5, which are used on the NUCLEO, with PA13, PA14 and PA15, but I only just noticed that PA13 and PA14 are also used (for ST-Link/V2.1) so I had to change again, this time for PA8, PA9 and PA10 which are unused as far as I can tell from scrubbing the NUCLEO reference manual. I'll push the changes tomorrow. I have not started implementing priority policy or ghost jamming yet, because I'm still thinking over how to implement both in the most economic way. Amicalement, -- Albert. ___ arm-netbook mailing list arm-netbook@lists.phcomp.co.uk http://lists.phcomp.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/arm-netbook Send large attachments to arm-netb...@files.phcomp.co.uk
[Arm-netbook] 258 cards
El Thu, Aug 04, 2016 at 07:27:17PM +0100, Luke Kenneth Casson Leighton deia: > ahh... joshua from crowdsupply pointed something out to me that i'd > completely forgotten about: the "fully assembled laptops" include > computer cards, so ahhh we're at 258 not 248. > :) Wow, how nice to be mistaken... Sorry, I should've thought of it > so, anyway, YIPPEE! > Yeah > next target: MOQ of 250 for the laptops+microdesktops+breakouts. > Seems doable. ___ arm-netbook mailing list arm-netbook@lists.phcomp.co.uk http://lists.phcomp.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/arm-netbook Send large attachments to arm-netb...@files.phcomp.co.uk
Re: [Arm-netbook] laptop landfill ratio? ;-)
El Thu, Aug 04, 2016 at 03:03:19PM -0400, Wolfram Kahl deia: > On Thu, Aug 04, 2016 at 07:14:11PM +0100, Luke Kenneth Casson Leighton wrote: > > > > the update for the 1080p60 video should be out by then, > > It has been mentioned occasionally that 1366x768 is a disappointing resolution > for a 15.6" laptop --- how much of the $450 ``PIY Laptop Housing Kit'' would > be reusable > for a different display? > I think the 1366x768 is a limit of the EOMA-68 connector interface, not of the laptop display. No EOMA-68 laptop can have a better resolution unless it had a cable to plug to the HDMI output. But then this laptop would not be compatible with all possible EOMA-68 cards, only those with an optional HDMI output, so quite off-charts. A future EOMA-200 or whatever standard might allow for higher resolutions. Or at least that's what I understand from what I read. But I think 1366x768 is not disappointing, and it's quite in line with the overall features. You don't get this laptop for high end features, that's for sure. ___ arm-netbook mailing list arm-netbook@lists.phcomp.co.uk http://lists.phcomp.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/arm-netbook Send large attachments to arm-netb...@files.phcomp.co.uk
[Arm-netbook] laptop landfill ratio? ;-)
On Thu, Aug 04, 2016 at 07:14:11PM +0100, Luke Kenneth Casson Leighton wrote: > > the update for the 1080p60 video should be out by then, It has been mentioned occasionally that 1366x768 is a disappointing resolution for a 15.6" laptop --- how much of the $450 ``PIY Laptop Housing Kit'' would be reusable for a different display? Wolfram ___ arm-netbook mailing list arm-netbook@lists.phcomp.co.uk http://lists.phcomp.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/arm-netbook Send large attachments to arm-netb...@files.phcomp.co.uk
Re: [Arm-netbook] 248 cards
--- crowd-funded eco-conscious hardware: https://www.crowdsupply.com/eoma68 On Thu, Aug 4, 2016 at 7:31 PM, Jonathan Frederickson wrote: > So, to clarify: if you reach the MOQ for everything but don't meet the > crowdfunding goal, what happens? Is this like most other crowdfunding > campaigns where you would get none of the funds, and have to contact > everyone who pledged if you wanted to move forward? no it isn't, because of that huge 20:1 differential. what i will do is, *at the end* of the campaign, i will do a proper and full financial analysis, and work out the options based on *what happens at the end*. > And what happens if you reach the MOQ for some devices but not all? it's too early to get into that... because it is a scenario that might not actually happen. i'm mulling it over possibilities, but not *actively* focussing on it. instead i'm *actively* focussing on increasing awareness and on raising the number of backers. the best thing to do is to help spread the word, especially on social media and conversations with friends, family and co-workers, as well as think of potential business opportunities, so that we reach the goal and exceed it. that's the best use of all our time right now, i feel. l. ___ arm-netbook mailing list arm-netbook@lists.phcomp.co.uk http://lists.phcomp.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/arm-netbook Send large attachments to arm-netb...@files.phcomp.co.uk
Re: [Arm-netbook] 248 cards
So, to clarify: if you reach the MOQ for everything but don't meet the crowdfunding goal, what happens? Is this like most other crowdfunding campaigns where you would get none of the funds, and have to contact everyone who pledged if you wanted to move forward? And what happens if you reach the MOQ for some devices but not all? ___ arm-netbook mailing list arm-netbook@lists.phcomp.co.uk http://lists.phcomp.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/arm-netbook Send large attachments to arm-netb...@files.phcomp.co.uk
Re: [Arm-netbook] 248 cards
ahh... joshua from crowdsupply pointed something out to me that i'd completely forgotten about: the "fully assembled laptops" include computer cards, so ahhh we're at 258 not 248. *finally* we can actually celebrate reaching the MOQ of 250, unlike last time where i got it wrong with a typo. maybe i should write a computer program to screen-scrape the crowdsupply web site and generate this, ehn? :) so, anyway, YIPPEE! next target: MOQ of 250 for the laptops+microdesktops+breakouts. l. ___ arm-netbook mailing list arm-netbook@lists.phcomp.co.uk http://lists.phcomp.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/arm-netbook Send large attachments to arm-netb...@files.phcomp.co.uk
Re: [Arm-netbook] pass-through card
Am Donnerstag, 4. August 2016, 19:18:29 schrieb Luke Kenneth Casson Leighton: > > What's the use case for that? I may be missing something, but a > > pass-through card in a Micro Desktop housing is at most like a 2 ports > > USB hub and an HDMI to VGA converter for 90 $ ? > > ... exactly. it's possible but... ... why would you want to do > it? i mean yeah if you already have the kit, fine, but it's not > something i'd actively say to people "hey go get these it'll be worth > it" whereas the laptop + passthrough card now that's really something. > > For me it seems ataractive, if I could attach my taplet or smartphone too the computer and use it whith keyboard, mouse and screen. But probably it is not so important and atracitve, that it should be mentionend in the campaign. But if someone askes, now I know. Wolfgang -- Wolfgang Romey Krokusstraße 37 47249 Duisburg geraspora: https://pod.geraspora.de/people/9002a1416a4e4a9d loadaverage: https://loadaverage.org/hier tox: wolfgang_ro...@toxme.se Bitte Anhänge nur in freien Formaten. Die Nachricht ist signiert, der öffentliche Schlüssel wird auf Anfrage zugeleitet. signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part. ___ arm-netbook mailing list arm-netbook@lists.phcomp.co.uk http://lists.phcomp.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/arm-netbook Send large attachments to arm-netb...@files.phcomp.co.uk
Re: [Arm-netbook] pass-through card
--- crowd-funded eco-conscious hardware: https://www.crowdsupply.com/eoma68 On Thu, Aug 4, 2016 at 7:13 PM, Xavi Drudis Ferran wrote: > El Thu, Aug 04, 2016 at 07:59:51PM +0200, Wolfgang Romey (hier) deia: >> Hello Luke, >> >> is the pass-through card usable with the Micro Desktop Housing too? If yes, I >> think it makes sense to mention it clearly on the crowsupply page. >> > > What's the use case for that? I may be missing something, but a pass-through > card > in a Micro Desktop housing is at most like a 2 ports USB hub and an HDMI to > VGA converter > for 90 $ ? ... exactly. it's possible but... ... why would you want to do it? i mean yeah if you already have the kit, fine, but it's not something i'd actively say to people "hey go get these it'll be worth it" whereas the laptop + passthrough card now that's really something. l. ___ arm-netbook mailing list arm-netbook@lists.phcomp.co.uk http://lists.phcomp.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/arm-netbook Send large attachments to arm-netb...@files.phcomp.co.uk
Re: [Arm-netbook] pass-through card
--- crowd-funded eco-conscious hardware: https://www.crowdsupply.com/eoma68 On Thu, Aug 4, 2016 at 6:59 PM, Wolfgang Romey (hier) wrote: > Hello Luke, > > is the pass-through card usable with the Micro Desktop Housing too? yes it is > If yes, I > think it makes sense to mention it clearly on the crowsupply page. ... yehhh except it's complicated enough as it is, and there's not a huge advantage... > > BTW: Are you still working on making freedombox run on the eoma68? if they didn't have "oh anything with USB-ETH we consider to be a toy" on the page i would prioritise it a bit more. l. ___ arm-netbook mailing list arm-netbook@lists.phcomp.co.uk http://lists.phcomp.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/arm-netbook Send large attachments to arm-netb...@files.phcomp.co.uk
Re: [Arm-netbook] Talk
--- crowd-funded eco-conscious hardware: https://www.crowdsupply.com/eoma68 2016-08-04 18:55 GMT+01:00 Wolfgang Romey (hier) : > Hello Luke, > > i watched the talk and found it very interesting and helpfull! yeah, it takes a while to get things across, it's like we've been so used to the whole thing about other mass-volume manufacturers providing our computers, it's like, "no... this can't be real... can it?" people are so disillusioned even in the software libre world, now, and so ANGRY at for example Allwinner that they can't wake up to the opportunity. funny, ehn? :) l. ___ arm-netbook mailing list arm-netbook@lists.phcomp.co.uk http://lists.phcomp.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/arm-netbook Send large attachments to arm-netb...@files.phcomp.co.uk
Re: [Arm-netbook] 248 cards
--- crowd-funded eco-conscious hardware: https://www.crowdsupply.com/eoma68 On Thu, Aug 4, 2016 at 6:53 PM, Wolfgang Romey wrote: > Am Donnerstag, 4. August 2016, 17:52:49 schrieb Luke Kenneth Casson Leighton: >> --- > >> >> the critical component there is the PCMCIA socket. if you add up the >> number of micro-desktop housings, laptop housings and breakout boards, >> the total comes to 201. so we're 80.4% of the way there on that one, >> too. >> >> no, the main thing is, we couldn't have predicted the ratios that >> people would like to pledge for, in advance, and with a 20:1 >> difference betweeen highest and lowest parts it means we have to keep >> an eye on things and do the maths. >> >> basically beyond a certain threshold raised it'll be really easy to >> complete. hard work, but we'll have the funds to do it. >> >> also with more funds i can start considering planning ahead. >> > I do a little calculation to estimate, what will be the outcome of this > campaign, and think, Luke is doing that too and is prepairing the next > possible steps. > But I think, it makes at this point of the campaign no sense to publish the > results and speculate about the outcome it's something for me to keep an eye on, > What everybody should do at this point, is in my opinion to publish about the > project and think about what one can do on top. Unfortunately (in this case) I > am not on facebook and twitter anymore and will not go back there. That is my > way of preserving my freedom and privacy. I write on diaspora* and gnusocial. good for you: really appreciated and respect that you do that. > Would it be possible to write an email to everyone who has pledged and ask > them, to inform their peergroup (again) and publish about the project in the > social-media they use. yes - > In the next days i will write a blogpost on my fsfe-blog about the sense of > crowdfunding, that of course will name the eoma68 project too. the update for the 1080p60 video should be out by then, it would be good to mention that the CEDAR engine reverse-engineering is a high priority FSF project, and that it actually appears to have the majority of functions working and useable. it's not perfect, so can't yet be moved to the "finished" FSF page, but is close enough. l. ___ arm-netbook mailing list arm-netbook@lists.phcomp.co.uk http://lists.phcomp.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/arm-netbook Send large attachments to arm-netb...@files.phcomp.co.uk
Re: [Arm-netbook] pass-through card
El Thu, Aug 04, 2016 at 07:59:51PM +0200, Wolfgang Romey (hier) deia: > Hello Luke, > > is the pass-through card usable with the Micro Desktop Housing too? If yes, I > think it makes sense to mention it clearly on the crowsupply page. > What's the use case for that? I may be missing something, but a pass-through card in a Micro Desktop housing is at most like a 2 ports USB hub and an HDMI to VGA converter for 90 $ ? ___ arm-netbook mailing list arm-netbook@lists.phcomp.co.uk http://lists.phcomp.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/arm-netbook Send large attachments to arm-netb...@files.phcomp.co.uk
[Arm-netbook] pass-through card
Hello Luke, is the pass-through card usable with the Micro Desktop Housing too? If yes, I think it makes sense to mention it clearly on the crowsupply page. BTW: Are you still working on making freedombox run on the eoma68? Wolfgang -- Wolfgang Romey Krokusstraße 37 47249 Duisburg geraspora: https://pod.geraspora.de/people/9002a1416a4e4a9d loadaverage: https://loadaverage.org/hier tox: wolfgang_ro...@toxme.se Bitte Anhänge nur in freien Formaten. Die Nachricht ist signiert, der öffentliche Schlüssel wird auf Anfrage zugeleitet. signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part. ___ arm-netbook mailing list arm-netbook@lists.phcomp.co.uk http://lists.phcomp.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/arm-netbook Send large attachments to arm-netb...@files.phcomp.co.uk
[Arm-netbook] Talk
Hello Luke, i watched the talk and found it very interesting and helpfull! Wolfgang -- Wolfgang Romey Krokusstraße 37 47249 Duisburg geraspora: https://pod.geraspora.de/people/9002a1416a4e4a9d loadaverage: https://loadaverage.org/hier tox: wolfgang_ro...@toxme.se Bitte Anhänge nur in freien Formaten. Die Nachricht ist signiert, der öffentliche Schlüssel wird auf Anfrage zugeleitet. signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part. ___ arm-netbook mailing list arm-netbook@lists.phcomp.co.uk http://lists.phcomp.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/arm-netbook Send large attachments to arm-netb...@files.phcomp.co.uk
Re: [Arm-netbook] 248 cards
Am Donnerstag, 4. August 2016, 17:52:49 schrieb Luke Kenneth Casson Leighton: > --- > > the critical component there is the PCMCIA socket. if you add up the > number of micro-desktop housings, laptop housings and breakout boards, > the total comes to 201. so we're 80.4% of the way there on that one, > too. > > no, the main thing is, we couldn't have predicted the ratios that > people would like to pledge for, in advance, and with a 20:1 > difference betweeen highest and lowest parts it means we have to keep > an eye on things and do the maths. > > basically beyond a certain threshold raised it'll be really easy to > complete. hard work, but we'll have the funds to do it. > > also with more funds i can start considering planning ahead. > I do a little calculation to estimate, what will be the outcome of this campaign, and think, Luke is doing that too and is prepairing the next possible steps. But I think, it makes at this point of the campaign no sense to publish the results and speculate about the outcome What everybody should do at this point, is in my opinion to publish about the project and think about what one can do on top. Unfortunately (in this case) I am not on facebook and twitter anymore and will not go back there. That is my way of preserving my freedom and privacy. I write on diaspora* and gnusocial. Would it be possible to write an email to everyone who has pledged and ask them, to inform their peergroup (again) and publish about the project in the social-media they use. In the next days i will write a blogpost on my fsfe-blog about the sense of crowdfunding, that of course will name the eoma68 project too. Wolfgang -- Wolfgang Romey Krokusstraße 37 47249 Duisburg geraspora: https://pod.geraspora.de/people/9002a1416a4e4a9d loadaverage: https://loadaverage.org/hier tox: wolfgang_ro...@toxme.se Bitte Anhänge nur in freien Formaten. Die Nachricht ist signiert, der öffentliche Schlüssel wird auf Anfrage zugeleitet. signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part. ___ arm-netbook mailing list arm-netbook@lists.phcomp.co.uk http://lists.phcomp.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/arm-netbook Send large attachments to arm-netb...@files.phcomp.co.uk
Re: [Arm-netbook] 248 cards
--- crowd-funded eco-conscious hardware: https://www.crowdsupply.com/eoma68 On Thu, Aug 4, 2016 at 5:16 PM, pelzflorian (Florian Pelz) wrote: > On 08/04/2016 06:05 PM, Xavi Drudis Ferran wrote: >> Then there's the crowdfunding goal, which is further ahead, but the >> cards' MOQ is already something. I guess there are MOQs for the other >> rewards too ? >> > > What about the completely assembled laptops? The campaign seems to be > past 250. I think there still is a need more orders of laptop parts. > There was talk about >140 being desired. the critical component there is the PCMCIA socket. if you add up the number of micro-desktop housings, laptop housings and breakout boards, the total comes to 201. so we're 80.4% of the way there on that one, too. no, the main thing is, we couldn't have predicted the ratios that people would like to pledge for, in advance, and with a 20:1 difference betweeen highest and lowest parts it means we have to keep an eye on things and do the maths. basically beyond a certain threshold raised it'll be really easy to complete. hard work, but we'll have the funds to do it. also with more funds i can start considering planning ahead. l. ___ arm-netbook mailing list arm-netbook@lists.phcomp.co.uk http://lists.phcomp.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/arm-netbook Send large attachments to arm-netb...@files.phcomp.co.uk
Re: [Arm-netbook] 248 cards
El Thu, Aug 04, 2016 at 06:16:50PM +0200, pelzflorian (Florian Pelz) deia: > On 08/04/2016 06:05 PM, Xavi Drudis Ferran wrote: > > Then there's the crowdfunding goal, which is further ahead, but the > > cards' MOQ is already something. I guess there are MOQs for the other > > rewards too ? > > > > What about the completely assembled laptops? The campaign seems to be > past 250. I think there still is a need more orders of laptop parts. > There was talk about >140 being desired. > I didn't know. You mean 140 part kits (including PIY, PFY and completely assembled) or 140 completely assembled ? It seems the total laptops is now 60 . With some 74 more completely assembled laptops the campaign would pass 15 $ or 197 PIY or 178 PFY would also do (not counting any new cards or other rewards). If it's 140 MOQ for the laptop part kits then 9 PIY + 71 completely assembled laptops would reach 15 $ and the 140 part kits... I don't know, I'm just playing with numbers without much of a point. ___ arm-netbook mailing list arm-netbook@lists.phcomp.co.uk http://lists.phcomp.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/arm-netbook Send large attachments to arm-netb...@files.phcomp.co.uk
Re: [Arm-netbook] 248 cards
Hi, Am Donnerstag, 4. August 2016, 18:05:16 schrieb Xavi Drudis Ferran: > > If those really add to the MOQ, and the MOQ is 250 I should warn everybody > who is thinking to order some card, that now they have the chance to be the > one who made the MOQ: Unfortunately I have ordered my card and the pass-through card (I have to check, if I realy have ordered that card)long ago. Maybe I have little part of this success, as today i published this https://loadaverage.org/notice/8373415 and this https://pod.geraspora.de/posts/5095906 Wolfgang -- Wolfgang Romey Krokusstraße 37 47249 Duisburg geraspora: https://pod.geraspora.de/people/9002a1416a4e4a9d loadaverage: https://loadaverage.org/hier tox: wolfgang_ro...@toxme.se Bitte Anhänge nur in freien Formaten. Die Nachricht ist signiert, der öffentliche Schlüssel wird auf Anfrage zugeleitet. signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part. ___ arm-netbook mailing list arm-netbook@lists.phcomp.co.uk http://lists.phcomp.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/arm-netbook Send large attachments to arm-netb...@files.phcomp.co.uk
Re: [Arm-netbook] 248 cards
On 08/04/2016 06:05 PM, Xavi Drudis Ferran wrote: > Then there's the crowdfunding goal, which is further ahead, but the > cards' MOQ is already something. I guess there are MOQs for the other > rewards too ? > What about the completely assembled laptops? The campaign seems to be past 250. I think there still is a need more orders of laptop parts. There was talk about >140 being desired. ___ arm-netbook mailing list arm-netbook@lists.phcomp.co.uk http://lists.phcomp.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/arm-netbook Send large attachments to arm-netb...@files.phcomp.co.uk
[Arm-netbook] 248 cards
El Mon, Aug 01, 2016 at 03:04:17PM +0100, Luke Kenneth Casson Leighton deia: > --- > crowd-funded eco-conscious hardware: https://www.crowdsupply.com/eoma68 > > > On Mon, Aug 1, 2016 at 7:55 AM, Xavi Drudis Ferran wrote: > > > I see there're only 13 passthrough cards. I thought there'd be more of > > those and more laptops once they're on offer. It's been less than a > > week, though? > > yeah about that. > > the main thing is, those add to the MOQ of the critical computer card > components - the PCMCIA assembly, USB-OTG and so on. > If those really add to the MOQ, and the MOQ is 250 I should warn everybody who is thinking to order some card, that now they have the chance to be the one who made the MOQ: I read at https://www.crowdsupply.com/eoma68/micro-desktop Libre Tea Computer card (Parabola, RYF): 155 claimed Practically perfect computer card (Debian):70 claimed Numero Uno computer card (Devuan): 5 claimed Getting ahead computer card (Fedora): 0 claimed Pass-through card: 18 claimed Total:248 claimed Then there's the crowdfunding goal, which is further ahead, but the cards' MOQ is already something. I guess there are MOQs for the other rewards too ? ___ arm-netbook mailing list arm-netbook@lists.phcomp.co.uk http://lists.phcomp.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/arm-netbook Send large attachments to arm-netb...@files.phcomp.co.uk
Re: [Arm-netbook] Questions
--- crowd-funded eco-conscious hardware: https://www.crowdsupply.com/eoma68 On Thu, Aug 4, 2016 at 3:38 PM, Lauri Kasanen wrote: > On Thu, 4 Aug 2016 16:21:01 +0200 > Christian Kellermann wrote: > >> Whatever you tell U-Boot to boot will be possible. Given the sices of >> the SD cards available the possibilities are (not really) >> endless. Although there is no smooth boot selection menu as known by >> other systems (You'd have to code that yourself). > > There is support for chainloading grub 2 from u-boot, which would then > give a pretty menu and the usual things. Haven't used it myself though. for ARM? if so cool! ___ arm-netbook mailing list arm-netbook@lists.phcomp.co.uk http://lists.phcomp.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/arm-netbook Send large attachments to arm-netb...@files.phcomp.co.uk
Re: [Arm-netbook] Questions
--- crowd-funded eco-conscious hardware: https://www.crowdsupply.com/eoma68 On Thu, Aug 4, 2016 at 3:37 PM, Wolfgang Romey wrote: > Am Donnerstag, 4. August 2016, 15:31:37 schrieb Luke Kenneth Casson Leighton: >> ok yes that happens automatically due to the boot-ROM on the A20. >> first it looks for MicroSD, if that's not there it looks for NAND. > I think than it would be better to have different system on different card. > But > the importand thing is, that multiboot works. follow the link chain here http://linux-sunxi.org/BROM ___ arm-netbook mailing list arm-netbook@lists.phcomp.co.uk http://lists.phcomp.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/arm-netbook Send large attachments to arm-netb...@files.phcomp.co.uk
Re: [Arm-netbook] Questions
On Thu, 4 Aug 2016 16:21:01 +0200 Christian Kellermann wrote: > Whatever you tell U-Boot to boot will be possible. Given the sices of > the SD cards available the possibilities are (not really) > endless. Although there is no smooth boot selection menu as known by > other systems (You'd have to code that yourself). There is support for chainloading grub 2 from u-boot, which would then give a pretty menu and the usual things. Haven't used it myself though. - Lauri ___ arm-netbook mailing list arm-netbook@lists.phcomp.co.uk http://lists.phcomp.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/arm-netbook Send large attachments to arm-netb...@files.phcomp.co.uk
Re: [Arm-netbook] Questions
Am Donnerstag, 4. August 2016, 15:31:37 schrieb Luke Kenneth Casson Leighton: > ok yes that happens automatically due to the boot-ROM on the A20. > first it looks for MicroSD, if that's not there it looks for NAND. I think than it would be better to have different system on different card. But the importand thing is, that multiboot works. Thanx Wolfgang -- Wolfgang Romey Krokusstraße 37 47249 Duisburg geraspora: https://pod.geraspora.de/people/9002a1416a4e4a9d loadaverage: https://loadaverage.org/hier tox: wolfgang_ro...@toxme.se Bitte Anhänge nur in freien Formaten. Die Nachricht ist signiert, der öffentliche Schlüssel wird auf Anfrage zugeleitet. signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part. ___ arm-netbook mailing list arm-netbook@lists.phcomp.co.uk http://lists.phcomp.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/arm-netbook Send large attachments to arm-netb...@files.phcomp.co.uk
Re: [Arm-netbook] Questions
--- crowd-funded eco-conscious hardware: https://www.crowdsupply.com/eoma68 On Thu, Aug 4, 2016 at 3:20 PM, Wolfgang Romey wrote: > Hi Luke, > > Am Donnerstag, 4. August 2016, 14:55:02 schrieb Luke Kenneth Casson Leighton: > >> >> right now probably on a 4 or 8gb micro-sd unless i have time to test >> NAND and be happy with it. people can always follow instructions >> online to put it on NAND themselves. >> > If it is on the NAND, can I update it? of course. there are instructions online. look up "cubian" and "nandinstall". it's a little obscure, but doable. > I am used to update my debian-stretch > nearly every day. yeah do watch out for that. do consider setting up "read-only rootfs" - again, instructions to do that are online. several people have done it. >> > Surely one can >> > update it and install additional software? >> >> yes >> > On the NAND too? of course l. ___ arm-netbook mailing list arm-netbook@lists.phcomp.co.uk http://lists.phcomp.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/arm-netbook Send large attachments to arm-netb...@files.phcomp.co.uk
Re: [Arm-netbook] Questions
--- crowd-funded eco-conscious hardware: https://www.crowdsupply.com/eoma68 On Thu, Aug 4, 2016 at 3:22 PM, Christian Kellermann wrote: > One could probably use a bootmenu like this: > http://lightofdawn.org/wiki/wiki.cgi/KexecBootMenu ahhh i like kexec. been meaning to investigate it. ___ arm-netbook mailing list arm-netbook@lists.phcomp.co.uk http://lists.phcomp.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/arm-netbook Send large attachments to arm-netb...@files.phcomp.co.uk
Re: [Arm-netbook] Questions
--- crowd-funded eco-conscious hardware: https://www.crowdsupply.com/eoma68 On Thu, Aug 4, 2016 at 3:16 PM, Wolfgang Romey wrote: > Hello Christian, > > Am Donnerstag, 4. August 2016, 15:07:28 schrieb Christian Kellermann: > >> > Can I boot different OSs? >> >> Of course! This is a free device and you can install whatever happens >> to run on the A20. Have a look at the updates section where Luke has >> demonstrated different OSs running on the card already. > > I did not made clear, that I asked for a double boot system: Parabola from the > NAND and debian from the SD-Card for example (and sugar-OS from another card). > Or is double-boot from one sd-card possible? ok yes that happens automatically due to the boot-ROM on the A20. first it looks for MicroSD, if that's not there it looks for NAND. yes you could double-boot from one sd-card, you'd be using u-boot to do it, and you'd need to be doing it by command-line but it's perfectly possible. >> >> > Will it be possible to activate the 3D acceleration on the debian card? >> >> In principle on both cards as they are identical hardware wise. But >> you will need access to a proprietary driver that is not part of the >> software package. > > I think, in debian I could find that proprietary driver in debian non-free. > That seems to the reason, why luke cannot get the RYF certification for the > debian card. correct. l. ___ arm-netbook mailing list arm-netbook@lists.phcomp.co.uk http://lists.phcomp.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/arm-netbook Send large attachments to arm-netb...@files.phcomp.co.uk
Re: [Arm-netbook] Questions
* Wolfgang Romey [160804 16:17]: > Hello Christian, > > Am Donnerstag, 4. August 2016, 15:07:28 schrieb Christian Kellermann: > > > > Can I boot different OSs? > > > > Of course! This is a free device and you can install whatever happens > > to run on the A20. Have a look at the updates section where Luke has > > demonstrated different OSs running on the card already. > > I did not made clear, that I asked for a double boot system: Parabola from the > NAND and debian from the SD-Card for example (and sugar-OS from another card). > Or is double-boot from one sd-card possible? Whatever you tell U-Boot to boot will be possible. Given the sices of the SD cards available the possibilities are (not really) endless. Although there is no smooth boot selection menu as known by other systems (You'd have to code that yourself). The boot order of the NAND and SD Card depends on the settings of the ROM code. IDK whether that's been changable easily. But I think the SD card gets preferred so whatever U-Boot you start from there will be able to also boot from NAND... Am I making sense to you? Cheers, Christian -- May you be peaceful, may you live in safety, may you be free from suffering, and may you live with ease. ___ arm-netbook mailing list arm-netbook@lists.phcomp.co.uk http://lists.phcomp.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/arm-netbook Send large attachments to arm-netb...@files.phcomp.co.uk
Re: [Arm-netbook] Questions
Hello Christian, Am Donnerstag, 4. August 2016, 15:07:28 schrieb Christian Kellermann: > > Can I boot different OSs? > > Of course! This is a free device and you can install whatever happens > to run on the A20. Have a look at the updates section where Luke has > demonstrated different OSs running on the card already. I did not made clear, that I asked for a double boot system: Parabola from the NAND and debian from the SD-Card for example (and sugar-OS from another card). Or is double-boot from one sd-card possible? > > > Will it be possible to activate the 3D acceleration on the debian card? > > In principle on both cards as they are identical hardware wise. But > you will need access to a proprietary driver that is not part of the > software package. I think, in debian I could find that proprietary driver in debian non-free. That seems to the reason, why luke cannot get the RYF certification for the debian card. Wolfgang -- Wolfgang Romey Krokusstraße 37 47249 Duisburg geraspora: https://pod.geraspora.de/people/9002a1416a4e4a9d loadaverage: https://loadaverage.org/hier tox: wolfgang_ro...@toxme.se Bitte Anhänge nur in freien Formaten. Die Nachricht ist signiert, der öffentliche Schlüssel wird auf Anfrage zugeleitet. signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part. ___ arm-netbook mailing list arm-netbook@lists.phcomp.co.uk http://lists.phcomp.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/arm-netbook Send large attachments to arm-netb...@files.phcomp.co.uk
Re: [Arm-netbook] Questions
* Christian Kellermann [160804 16:21]: > * Wolfgang Romey [160804 16:17]: > > Hello Christian, > > > > Am Donnerstag, 4. August 2016, 15:07:28 schrieb Christian Kellermann: > > > > > > Can I boot different OSs? > > > > > > Of course! This is a free device and you can install whatever happens > > > to run on the A20. Have a look at the updates section where Luke has > > > demonstrated different OSs running on the card already. > > > > I did not made clear, that I asked for a double boot system: Parabola from > > the > > NAND and debian from the SD-Card for example (and sugar-OS from another > > card). > > Or is double-boot from one sd-card possible? > > Whatever you tell U-Boot to boot will be possible. Given the sices of > the SD cards available the possibilities are (not really) > endless. Although there is no smooth boot selection menu as known by > other systems (You'd have to code that yourself). > > The boot order of the NAND and SD Card depends on the settings of the > ROM code. IDK whether that's been changable easily. But I think the SD > card gets preferred so whatever U-Boot you start from there will be > able to also boot from NAND... > One could probably use a bootmenu like this: http://lightofdawn.org/wiki/wiki.cgi/KexecBootMenu HTH, Christian -- May you be peaceful, may you live in safety, may you be free from suffering, and may you live with ease. ___ arm-netbook mailing list arm-netbook@lists.phcomp.co.uk http://lists.phcomp.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/arm-netbook Send large attachments to arm-netb...@files.phcomp.co.uk
Re: [Arm-netbook] Questions
Hi Luke, Am Donnerstag, 4. August 2016, 14:55:02 schrieb Luke Kenneth Casson Leighton: > > right now probably on a 4 or 8gb micro-sd unless i have time to test > NAND and be happy with it. people can always follow instructions > online to put it on NAND themselves. > If it is on the NAND, can I update it? I am used to update my debian-stretch nearly every day. > > Surely one can > > update it and install additional software? > > yes > On the NAND too? > > Can I boot different OSs? > > yes As you see in my other Email, I meant multiboot. > > > Which Kernel will be delivered? I see, that you are trying the 4.7 kernel? > > 3.4 is stable. 4.7 is turning out not to be. Hopefully in march 2017 it is. > > > Will it be possible to activate the 3D acceleration on the debian card? > > yes - not recommended, but follow instructions online. Of course, as it is non free. Thank you. Wolfgang -- Wolfgang Romey Krokusstraße 37 47249 Duisburg geraspora: https://pod.geraspora.de/people/9002a1416a4e4a9d loadaverage: https://loadaverage.org/hier tox: wolfgang_ro...@toxme.se Bitte Anhänge nur in freien Formaten. Die Nachricht ist signiert, der öffentliche Schlüssel wird auf Anfrage zugeleitet. signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part. ___ arm-netbook mailing list arm-netbook@lists.phcomp.co.uk http://lists.phcomp.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/arm-netbook Send large attachments to arm-netb...@files.phcomp.co.uk
Re: [Arm-netbook] Questions
--- crowd-funded eco-conscious hardware: https://www.crowdsupply.com/eoma68 On Thu, Aug 4, 2016 at 1:32 PM, Wolfgang Romey (hier) wrote: > Hello Luke > > I have questions: > > Whrere is the OS which is delivered with thwe eoma68 stored? right now probably on a 4 or 8gb micro-sd unless i have time to test NAND and be happy with it. people can always follow instructions online to put it on NAND themselves. > Surely one can > update it and install additional software? yes > Can I boot different OSs? yes > Which Kernel will be delivered? I see, that you are trying the 4.7 kernel? 3.4 is stable. 4.7 is turning out not to be. > Will it be possible to activate the 3D acceleration on the debian card? yes - not recommended, but follow instructions online. ___ arm-netbook mailing list arm-netbook@lists.phcomp.co.uk http://lists.phcomp.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/arm-netbook Send large attachments to arm-netb...@files.phcomp.co.uk
Re: [Arm-netbook] Questions
thx c. --- crowd-funded eco-conscious hardware: https://www.crowdsupply.com/eoma68 On Thu, Aug 4, 2016 at 2:07 PM, Christian Kellermann wrote: > Hi Wolfgang! > > * Wolfgang Romey (hier) [160804 14:32]: >> Whrere is the OS which is delivered with thwe eoma68 stored? Surely one can >> update it and install additional software? > > Either on the SD card or on the flash. > >> Can I boot different OSs? > > Of course! This is a free device and you can install whatever happens > to run on the A20. Have a look at the updates section where Luke has > demonstrated different OSs running on the card already. > >> Which Kernel will be delivered? I see, that you are trying the 4.7 kernel? > > Whatever is stable at the moment of shipment I guess. > >> Will it be possible to activate the 3D acceleration on the debian card? > > In principle on both cards as they are identical hardware wise. But > you will need access to a proprietary driver that is not part of the > software package. > > Kind regards, > > Christian > > -- > May you be peaceful, may you live in safety, may you be free from > suffering, and may you live with ease. > > ___ > arm-netbook mailing list arm-netbook@lists.phcomp.co.uk > http://lists.phcomp.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/arm-netbook > Send large attachments to arm-netb...@files.phcomp.co.uk ___ arm-netbook mailing list arm-netbook@lists.phcomp.co.uk http://lists.phcomp.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/arm-netbook Send large attachments to arm-netb...@files.phcomp.co.uk
Re: [Arm-netbook] storage options for EOMA68
--- crowd-funded eco-conscious hardware: https://www.crowdsupply.com/eoma68 On Thu, Aug 4, 2016 at 12:43 PM, Xavi Drudis Ferran wrote: > El Thu, Aug 04, 2016 at 08:23:12AM +0100, Nick Hardiman deia: >> SATA III >> via the PCMCIA socket >> > > I thought SATA was removed from the EOMA-68 connector. So if you want > to use a SATA SSD or SATA hard disk you need and SATA-USB convertor. > > With the current CPU card that'd be USB2 to SATA and with some future > EOMA-68 cpu card it might be USB 3.1 to SATA. correct. > But I may have misunderstood, of course. nono sorry for not picking up on it - very busy. thanks xavi ___ arm-netbook mailing list arm-netbook@lists.phcomp.co.uk http://lists.phcomp.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/arm-netbook Send large attachments to arm-netb...@files.phcomp.co.uk
Re: [Arm-netbook] Questions
Hi Wolfgang! * Wolfgang Romey (hier) [160804 14:32]: > Whrere is the OS which is delivered with thwe eoma68 stored? Surely one can > update it and install additional software? Either on the SD card or on the flash. > Can I boot different OSs? Of course! This is a free device and you can install whatever happens to run on the A20. Have a look at the updates section where Luke has demonstrated different OSs running on the card already. > Which Kernel will be delivered? I see, that you are trying the 4.7 kernel? Whatever is stable at the moment of shipment I guess. > Will it be possible to activate the 3D acceleration on the debian card? In principle on both cards as they are identical hardware wise. But you will need access to a proprietary driver that is not part of the software package. Kind regards, Christian -- May you be peaceful, may you live in safety, may you be free from suffering, and may you live with ease. ___ arm-netbook mailing list arm-netbook@lists.phcomp.co.uk http://lists.phcomp.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/arm-netbook Send large attachments to arm-netb...@files.phcomp.co.uk
[Arm-netbook] Questions
Hello Luke I have questions: Whrere is the OS which is delivered with thwe eoma68 stored? Surely one can update it and install additional software? Can I boot different OSs? Which Kernel will be delivered? I see, that you are trying the 4.7 kernel? Will it be possible to activate the 3D acceleration on the debian card? Thanks in advance. Wolfgang -- Wolfgang Romey Krokusstraße 37 47249 Duisburg geraspora: https://pod.geraspora.de/people/9002a1416a4e4a9d loadaverage: https://loadaverage.org/hier tox: wolfgang_ro...@toxme.se Bitte Anhänge nur in freien Formaten. Die Nachricht ist signiert, der öffentliche Schlüssel wird auf Anfrage zugeleitet. signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part. ___ arm-netbook mailing list arm-netbook@lists.phcomp.co.uk http://lists.phcomp.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/arm-netbook Send large attachments to arm-netb...@files.phcomp.co.uk
Re: [Arm-netbook] storage options for EOMA68
El Thu, Aug 04, 2016 at 08:23:12AM +0100, Nick Hardiman deia: > SATA III > via the PCMCIA socket > I thought SATA was removed from the EOMA-68 connector. So if you want to use a SATA SSD or SATA hard disk you need and SATA-USB convertor. With the current CPU card that'd be USB2 to SATA and with some future EOMA-68 cpu card it might be USB 3.1 to SATA. But I may have misunderstood, of course. ___ arm-netbook mailing list arm-netbook@lists.phcomp.co.uk http://lists.phcomp.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/arm-netbook Send large attachments to arm-netb...@files.phcomp.co.uk
Re: [Arm-netbook] storage options for EOMA68
--- crowd-funded eco-conscious hardware: https://www.crowdsupply.com/eoma68 On Thu, Aug 4, 2016 at 8:23 AM, Nick Hardiman wrote: > I have to break these things down so I can get them into my neanderthal head, > so my apologies if this is obvious to everyone already. Is this a reasonable > summary of the storage options for EOMA68? > > I looked at some old photos and the EOMA-68 page, and I reckon these are the > data storage options. By data storage I mean memory, disk space, or - to talk > oldskool - any input/output device. > > > EOMA68 data storage options > --- > 1. micro-SD card > 2. USB flash drive (AKA USB stick, pen drive, external NAND) > 3. internal NAND > 4. mechanical hard disk > 5. Solid State Disk > > > file transfer speeds > -- > 1 is the slowest, 5 is the fastest. all looks reasonable, although i'd put 1&2 at potentially interchangeable. on the 4.7 kernel i'm seeing 25mbyte/sec sustained (20mbytes/sec sustained on 3.4) out of a sandisk ultra plus (rated at 85mbyte/sec). pretty frickin quick in other words. l. ___ arm-netbook mailing list arm-netbook@lists.phcomp.co.uk http://lists.phcomp.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/arm-netbook Send large attachments to arm-netb...@files.phcomp.co.uk
[Arm-netbook] storage options for EOMA68
I have to break these things down so I can get them into my neanderthal head, so my apologies if this is obvious to everyone already. Is this a reasonable summary of the storage options for EOMA68? I looked at some old photos and the EOMA-68 page, and I reckon these are the data storage options. By data storage I mean memory, disk space, or - to talk oldskool - any input/output device. EOMA68 data storage options --- 1. micro-SD card 2. USB flash drive (AKA USB stick, pen drive, external NAND) 3. internal NAND 4. mechanical hard disk 5. Solid State Disk file transfer speeds -- 1 is the slowest, 5 is the fastest. If you want to run something that thrashes the storage, like an e-mail server, stick the files on a disk. data storage capacity -- 1 is the smallest, and 5 the biggest. Using a micro-SD card is roughly the same as using as a small cloud server - enough space to store the OS, a bunch of applications, and have some left over. If you want to run something that chomps through storage, like a database server, stick the files on a disk. sockets for attaching another mass storage device -- USB2 There's a micro-USB socket on one side of the board, and another USB interface via the PCMCIA socket (or whatever you call the big pin connector housing). If you want to connect your Edison Cylinder Phonograph to your EOMA68 card, USB it up first. SD/MMC beside the USB socket SATA III via the PCMCIA socket I just realized I’ve been dropping the hyphen from EOMA-68. Oops. links -- old photos http://rhombus-tech.net/allwinner_a10/news/ EOMA-68 page http://elinux.org/Embedded_Open_Modular_Architecture/EOMA-68 signature.asc Description: Message signed with OpenPGP using GPGMail ___ arm-netbook mailing list arm-netbook@lists.phcomp.co.uk http://lists.phcomp.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/arm-netbook Send large attachments to arm-netb...@files.phcomp.co.uk
