Re: [Arm-netbook] 248 cards

2016-08-04 Thread Luke Kenneth Casson Leighton 
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On Thu, Aug 4, 2016 at 7:31 PM, Jonathan Frederickson
 wrote:
> So, to clarify: if you reach the MOQ for everything but don't meet the
> crowdfunding goal, what happens? Is this like most other crowdfunding
> campaigns where you would get none of the funds, and have to contact
> everyone who pledged if you wanted to move forward?

 no it isn't, because of that huge 20:1 differential.  what i will do
is, *at the end* of the campaign, i will do a proper and full
financial analysis, and work out the options based on *what happens at
the end*.

> And what happens if you reach the MOQ for some devices but not all?

 it's too early to get into that... because it is a scenario that
might not actually happen.  i'm mulling it over possibilities, but not
*actively* focussing on it.  instead i'm *actively* focussing on
increasing awareness and on raising the number of backers.

 the best thing to do is to help spread the word, especially on social
media and conversations with friends, family and co-workers, as well
as think of potential business opportunities, so that we reach the
goal and exceed it.

 that's the best use of all our time right now, i feel.

l.

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Re: [Arm-netbook] 248 cards

2016-08-04 Thread Jonathan Frederickson 
So, to clarify: if you reach the MOQ for everything but don't meet the
crowdfunding goal, what happens? Is this like most other crowdfunding
campaigns where you would get none of the funds, and have to contact
everyone who pledged if you wanted to move forward?

And what happens if you reach the MOQ for some devices but not all?

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Re: [Arm-netbook] 248 cards

2016-08-04 Thread Wolfgang Romey 
Am Donnerstag, 4. August 2016, 17:52:49 schrieb Luke Kenneth Casson Leighton:
> ---

> 
>  the critical component there is the PCMCIA socket.  if you add up the
> number of micro-desktop housings, laptop housings and breakout boards,
> the total comes to 201.  so we're 80.4% of the way there on that one,
> too.
> 
>  no, the main thing is, we couldn't have predicted the ratios that
> people would like to pledge for, in advance, and with a 20:1
> difference betweeen highest and lowest parts it means we have to keep
> an eye on things and do the maths.
> 
>  basically beyond a certain threshold raised it'll be really easy to
> complete.  hard work, but we'll have the funds to do it.
> 
>  also with more funds i can start considering planning ahead.
> 
I do a little calculation to estimate, what will be the outcome of this 
campaign, and think, Luke is doing that too and is prepairing the next 
possible steps. 
But I think, it makes at this point of the campaign no sense to publish the 
results and speculate about the outcome

What everybody should do at this point, is in my opinion to publish about the 
project and think about what one can do on top. Unfortunately (in this case) I 
am not on facebook and twitter anymore and will not go back there. That is my 
way of preserving my freedom and privacy. I write on diaspora* and gnusocial.

Would it be possible to write an email to everyone who has pledged and ask 
them, to inform their peergroup (again) and publish about the project in the 
social-media they use. 

In the next days i will write a blogpost on my fsfe-blog about the sense of 
crowdfunding, that of course will name the eoma68 project too.

Wolfgang
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Re: [Arm-netbook] 248 cards

2016-08-04 Thread Xavi Drudis Ferran 
El Thu, Aug 04, 2016 at 06:16:50PM +0200, pelzflorian (Florian Pelz) deia:
> On 08/04/2016 06:05 PM, Xavi Drudis Ferran wrote:
> > Then there's the crowdfunding goal, which is further ahead, but the
> > cards' MOQ is already something.  I guess there are MOQs for the other
> > rewards too ?
> > 
> 
> What about the completely assembled laptops? The campaign seems to be
> past 250. I think there still is a need more orders of laptop parts.
> There was talk about >140 being desired.
>
 
I didn't know. 

You mean 140 part kits (including PIY, PFY and completely assembled) 
or 140 completely assembled ? 
It seems the total laptops is now 60 . 
With some 74 more completely assembled laptops the campaign would pass 15 $
or 197 PIY or 178 PFY would also do  (not counting any new cards or other 
rewards).

If it's 140 MOQ for the laptop part kits then 9 PIY + 71 completely assembled 
laptops
would reach 15 $ and the 140 part kits...

I don't know, I'm just playing with numbers without much of a point. 



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Re: [Arm-netbook] 248 cards

2016-08-04 Thread Wolfgang Romey 
Hi,

Am Donnerstag, 4. August 2016, 18:05:16 schrieb Xavi Drudis Ferran:
> 
> If those really add to the MOQ, and the MOQ is 250 I should warn everybody
> who is thinking to order some card, that now they have the chance to be the
> one who made the MOQ:

Unfortunately I have ordered my card and the pass-through card (I have to 
check, if I realy have ordered that card)long ago.

Maybe I have little part of this success, as today i published this
https://loadaverage.org/notice/8373415
and this
https://pod.geraspora.de/posts/5095906

Wolfgang



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Re: [Arm-netbook] 248 cards

2016-08-04 Thread pelzflorian (Florian Pelz) 
On 08/04/2016 06:05 PM, Xavi Drudis Ferran wrote:
> Then there's the crowdfunding goal, which is further ahead, but the
> cards' MOQ is already something.  I guess there are MOQs for the other
> rewards too ?
> 

What about the completely assembled laptops? The campaign seems to be
past 250. I think there still is a need more orders of laptop parts.
There was talk about >140 being desired.

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[Arm-netbook] 248 cards

2016-08-04 Thread Xavi Drudis Ferran 
El Mon, Aug 01, 2016 at 03:04:17PM +0100, Luke Kenneth Casson Leighton deia:
> ---
> crowd-funded eco-conscious hardware: https://www.crowdsupply.com/eoma68
> 
> 
> On Mon, Aug 1, 2016 at 7:55 AM, Xavi Drudis Ferran  wrote:
> 
> > I see there're only 13 passthrough cards. I thought there'd be more of
> > those and more laptops once they're on offer. It's been less than a
> > week, though?
> 
>  yeah about that.
> 
>  the main thing is, those add to the MOQ of the critical computer card
> components - the PCMCIA assembly, USB-OTG and so on.
> 

If those really add to the MOQ, and the MOQ is 250 I should warn everybody who
is thinking to order some card, that now they have the chance to be the one 
who made the MOQ:

I read at

https://www.crowdsupply.com/eoma68/micro-desktop

Libre Tea Computer card (Parabola, RYF):  155 claimed 
Practically perfect computer card (Debian):70 claimed
Numero Uno computer card (Devuan):  5 claimed
Getting ahead computer card (Fedora):   0 claimed 
Pass-through card: 18 claimed
Total:248 claimed

Then there's the crowdfunding goal, which is further ahead, but the
cards' MOQ is already something.  I guess there are MOQs for the other
rewards too ?

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