Re: [Arm-netbook] Certification Mark: My hat in the Ring

2017-04-21 Thread Hendrik Boom
On Fri, Apr 21, 2017 at 06:14:13PM +0100, Luke Kenneth Casson Leighton wrote:
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> On Fri, Apr 21, 2017 at 4:26 PM, Paul Boddie  wrote:
> > On Friday 21. April 2017 05.08.22 Luke Kenneth Casson Leighton wrote:
> >> bit too weird, man :)
> >
> > I had a bit of a sketch and came up with this:
> >
> > http://www.boddie.org.uk/downloads/EOMA68/logo.svg
> 
>  blegh! :)  gone cross-eyed too, man!

But it is fun!

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Re: [Arm-netbook] Certification Mark: My hat in the Ring

2017-04-21 Thread Luke Kenneth Casson Leighton
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On Fri, Apr 21, 2017 at 4:26 PM, Paul Boddie  wrote:
> On Friday 21. April 2017 05.08.22 Luke Kenneth Casson Leighton wrote:
>> bit too weird, man :)
>
> I had a bit of a sketch and came up with this:
>
> http://www.boddie.org.uk/downloads/EOMA68/logo.svg

 blegh! :)  gone cross-eyed too, man!

> There are no heavy meanings to be found here. I like the way you can invert
> most of the letters and read the same thing, so it made sense to turn it into
> a broadly circular design. Also, circular marks are not unusual.

 circular... um... um.. paul?  um... how can i put this best...
 um... imagine you're either beavis or butthead looking at
 that logo...

 :)

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Re: [Arm-netbook] Certification Mark: My hat in the Ring

2017-04-21 Thread Christopher Havel
Trying to read that makes me cross-eyed.
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Re: [Arm-netbook] Certification Mark: My hat in the Ring

2017-04-21 Thread Paul Boddie
On Friday 21. April 2017 05.08.22 Luke Kenneth Casson Leighton wrote:
> bit too weird, man :)

I had a bit of a sketch and came up with this:

http://www.boddie.org.uk/downloads/EOMA68/logo.svg

A lot of the earlier logos were quite literal and incorporated specific 
hardware details or tried to communicate "hardware", but I agree with Hrvoje 
Lasic:

"But also keep in mind that logo is about identity, not business model that
exist today."

So I just focused on the text and tried to redraw it as the graphic itself. 
Font usage can bring up all sorts of problems in addition to trying to find 
something that is pleasing to the eye.

There are no heavy meanings to be found here. I like the way you can invert 
most of the letters and read the same thing, so it made sense to turn it into 
a broadly circular design. Also, circular marks are not unusual.

Paul

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Re: [Arm-netbook] Certification Mark: My hat in the Ring

2017-04-21 Thread Luke Kenneth Casson Leighton
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On Fri, Apr 21, 2017 at 8:00 AM, pelzflorian (Florian Pelz)
 wrote:
> The EOMA logo making a statement about anything other than EOMA does not
> seem like a good idea to me.

 no, exactly.  even if it's a really obscure joke (as if triple-satire
isn't obscure enough). i really *really* want to add, underneath:

 "The R/Evolution
  Will not be Televised"

  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Revolution_Will_Not_Be_Televised

:)

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Re: [Arm-netbook] Certification Mark: My hat in the Ring

2017-04-21 Thread pelzflorian (Florian Pelz)
The EOMA logo making a statement about anything other than EOMA does not
seem like a good idea to me.

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Re: [Arm-netbook] Certification Mark: My hat in the Ring

2017-04-20 Thread John Luke Gibson
On 4/21/17, John Luke Gibson  wrote:
> See, now the symbolism only looks religious if your not looking at
> where the symbols are taken from. The Blender logo is an eye, which is
> supposed to be emphasized by the switching of the eyelash in the
> traditional one with a different one. Inside of the fish, the eye then
> thusly makes the whole a fisheye. The suggestion is that we are
> looking at the broader picture, as would be seen with a fisheye lens.
>
> On 4/20/17, Christopher Havel  wrote:
>> Speaking as someone who has consciously opted out of religion, has better
>> things to do than contemplate faith, and is a self-confessed "kinda
>> strange
>> guy"...
>>
>> That logo is more than a wee bit off kilter. The phrase I would use in
>> polite company would probably be "remarkably doofy", because that's how I
>> roll. But, "a bit too weird" works very well also ;) Sorry, but that one
>> looks very much fated for a one-way ticket to /dev/null. Try, try again!
>> (Speaking as an artist, which I am -- I throw away *tons* more than I
>> keep.
>> Oh -- and people tell me I'm pretty dang good. I'm not interested in
>> arguing...)
>>
>

If you actually think any deeper about the possible analogy to a
religious fish than surface value, it doesn't make any sense as it
comes from an ancient story about less becoming more simply by sharing
it. This human endeavor of ours, has really nothing to do with that.
Our computers won't multiply by taking existing ones from the wild,
breaking them in half and giving out the halves. Besides the
suggestion that the fish is for killing and then eating, offends my
vegan sensibilities.

If anything, perhaps a bit of re-scaling the letters in the image and
using microsoft's M (to make it less serif and thereby less gothic)
instead of macintosh's (original macintosh and microsoft's M from back
when windows 95 came out). As much as we involved with Gnu tend to
hate those groups, they had the goal at those points in history of
making a masterpiece of a computer so that the world would advance and
not abandon computing as soul-less gimmick. Even if those groups are
destined to dissolve, and even if they've both lasted long enough to
become the villain, we owe them. I was originally going to flip the
windows W upside down almost in spiteful mockery that it (modern
windows) is anything but modular, but then I realized that even if we
find ourselves needing to suppress the unyielding madness of these
old-and-senile giants in our present, we must still honor their memory
as they did accomplish something wonderful once upon a time. Even to
the detractors of this assertion that might say Unix would have
evolved regardless, I say nay for no person would lustfully wish to
learn to build a machine that they knew not could house a part of
their soul. These developers built machines with a culture behind them
and did so such that the culture could house millions of individuals
and with part each one's own individual spirit.

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Re: [Arm-netbook] Certification Mark: My hat in the Ring

2017-04-20 Thread John Luke Gibson
See, now the symbolism only looks religious if your not looking at
where the symbols are taken from. The Blender logo is an eye, which is
supposed to be emphasized by the switching of the eyelash in the
traditional one with a different one. Inside of the fish, the eye then
thusly makes the whole a fisheye. The suggestion is that we are
looking at the broader picture, as would be seen with a fisheye lens.

On 4/20/17, Christopher Havel  wrote:
> Speaking as someone who has consciously opted out of religion, has better
> things to do than contemplate faith, and is a self-confessed "kinda strange
> guy"...
>
> That logo is more than a wee bit off kilter. The phrase I would use in
> polite company would probably be "remarkably doofy", because that's how I
> roll. But, "a bit too weird" works very well also ;) Sorry, but that one
> looks very much fated for a one-way ticket to /dev/null. Try, try again!
> (Speaking as an artist, which I am -- I throw away *tons* more than I keep.
> Oh -- and people tell me I'm pretty dang good. I'm not interested in
> arguing...)
>

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Re: [Arm-netbook] Certification Mark: My hat in the Ring

2017-04-20 Thread Christopher Havel
Speaking as someone who has consciously opted out of religion, has better
things to do than contemplate faith, and is a self-confessed "kinda strange
guy"...

That logo is more than a wee bit off kilter. The phrase I would use in
polite company would probably be "remarkably doofy", because that's how I
roll. But, "a bit too weird" works very well also ;) Sorry, but that one
looks very much fated for a one-way ticket to /dev/null. Try, try again!
(Speaking as an artist, which I am -- I throw away *tons* more than I keep.
Oh -- and people tell me I'm pretty dang good. I'm not interested in
arguing...)
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Re: [Arm-netbook] Certification Mark: My hat in the Ring

2017-04-20 Thread Peter Carlson
What about the non-christians

On Thu, Apr 20, 2017, 8:59 PM John Luke Gibson  wrote:

> Didn't notice that it didn't go through.
> Here's the attachment.
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Re: [Arm-netbook] Certification Mark: My hat in the Ring

2017-04-20 Thread Luke Kenneth Casson Leighton
bit too weird, man :)
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On Fri, Apr 21, 2017 at 3:59 AM, John Luke Gibson  wrote:
> Didn't notice that it didn't go through.
> Here's the attachment.
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Re: [Arm-netbook] Certification Mark: My hat in the Ring

2017-04-20 Thread John Luke Gibson
Didn't notice that it didn't go through.
Here's the attachment.
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[Arm-netbook] Certification Mark: My hat in the Ring

2017-04-20 Thread John Luke Gibson
The fish borrowed from Wenqing Yan's Fisheye Placebo.
I'm sure it's modified enough to be fair use, but contacting them
might be a good idea.

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