Re: Senators Denounce Policy Analysis Markets

2003-07-29 Thread Christopher Rasch
Glenn Reynolds (Instapundit) blogged about the DARPA project controversy:

THE PENTAGON WANTS TO USE A FUTURES MARKET 
http://nytimes.com/2003/07/29/politics/29TERR.html to predict terror 
attacks. Although this is getting a lot of criticism (mostly from 
members of Congress who, I suspect, couldn't accurately describe the 
operation of /existing/ futures markets) I think it's an excellent 
example of creative thinking, and the Pentagon deserves to be 
congratulated for it. As I've suggested before (here 
http://www.techcentralstation.com/1051/defensewrapper.jsp?PID=1051-350CID=1051-041603A, 
here, 
http://www.techcentralstation.com/1051/defensewrapper.jsp?PID=1051-350CID=1051-021203A 
and especially here 
http://techcentralstation.com/1051/techwrapper.jsp?PID=1051-250CID=1051-103002A) 
the diffuse, fast-moving threat of terrorism requires a diffuse, 
fast-moving response. And this sounds like a very plausible way of 
recruiting a lot of minds in the service of anti-terrorism.

Josh Chafetz agrees: 
http://www.oxblog.blogspot.com/2003_07_27_oxblog_archive.html#105943317047655345

   A futures market in terrorist attacks, while it sounds grisly, may
   help us to aggregate diffuse knowledge in a way that will prove
   superior to expert knowledge. It also may not, but it seems to me
   that it's worth a try. At the very least, if we're going to demand
   that the government get creative in fighting terror, we shouldn't be
   so quick to criticize when it does just that.
Yep.

UPDATE: Reader Fred Butzen emails:

   The story about the Pentgon's terrorism market clearly is an
   extension of Iowa Electronic Markets, which has been run for years
   by the University of Iowa's Tippett School of Business. Here's a
   link to the Iowa Information Market's web site:
   Link http://www.biz.uiowa.edu/iem/

   In brief, the IEM lets persons place bets on the likelihood of given
   events' happening; for example, people could bet on the likelihood
   that Saddam Hussein will survive this year, or who will win the next
   presidential election. The collective expertise of the participants
   has proven to be extremely useful in predicting events.
   The notion that the dim-bulbs in Congress and the media should
   attack such a useful and proven idea as the Pentagon's is utterly
   absurd.
This is absolutely right. Whether or not the Pentagon's idea is a good 
one depends on details I don't know about. But the lame criticism makes 
clear that the critics are -- as usual -- clueless on the subject.

ANOTHER UPDATE: Mitch Berg points out 
http://www.mitchberg.com/shotindark/2003_07_01_archive.html#105948759942593174 
that this approach has worked in the past.

posted at 08:44 AM by *Glenn Reynolds* 
http://www.instapundit.com/archives/010668.php

Robin Hanson wrote:

FYI, our DARPA project (www.policyanalysismarket.com) has just been 
denounced
by two senators: 
http://wyden.senate.gov/media/2003/07282003_terrormarket.html

Robin Hanson  [EMAIL PROTECTED]  http://hanson.gmu.edu
Assistant Professor of Economics, George Mason University
MSN 1D3, Carow Hall, Fairfax VA 22030-
703-993-2326  FAX: 703-993-2323







[Fwd: [wta-talk] Futures Market to Predict Terror Canned by Pentagon]

2003-07-29 Thread Christopher Rasch
Hmmm...seems like like DARPA's going to kill the project. 

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WTAer/Extropian and GMU economist Robin Hanson was involved in this
project. Looks like it was seriously misunderstood. - J.




http://www.nytimes.com/2003/07/29/politics/29WIRE-PENT.html



July 29, 2003



Pentagon Said to Abandon Plan for Futures Market on Terror



By THE ASSOCIATED PRESS



WASHINGTON -- The Pentagon will abandon a plan to establish a futures
market to help predict terrorist strikes, the chairman of the Senate
Armed Services Committee said Tuesday.


Sen. John Warner, R-Va., said he spoke by phone with the program's
director, and we mutually agreed that this thing should be stopped.


Warner announced the decision not long after Senate Democratic Leader
Thomas Daschle took to the floor to denounce the program as an
incentive actually to commit acts of terrorism.


Warner made the announcement during a confirmation hearing for retired
Gen. Peter J. Schoomaker, nominated to be Army chief of staff.





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2003-07-24 Thread Christopher Rasch
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