Re: Assassination

2000-10-06 Thread Robin Hanson

Dr. Alexander Tabarrok wrote:
>Harry Browne ... said that the way a free society would handle war is to
>offer a prize to the person or persons who assassinated the leader(s) of
>the opposing country.  ... say 500 million should provide plenty of
>motivation to guards, wives, snipers etc.

How reliably could we determine who it was that actually did the job?
I could imagine a guard fearing that UG Govt types would put together
fake evidence so they could give the money to someone they favored.

>the only reason I can think of why we don't do this is that it
>would work so well that our own leaders would fear for their lives.

That seems a plausible theory to me.




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Assassination terminology

2000-10-06 Thread Pierre Lemieux

If I am not mistaken, an homicide justified by moral reasons
is called "execution", not "assassination".
P.L.

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Re: Assassination message dated "Thu, 05 Oct 2000 14:35:26 -0700."

2000-10-05 Thread Sourav K. Mandal


"Alex Tabarrok <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>" wrote:

> Are there any good reasons for an anti-assassination policy?

Let us consider two situations:  

* Not quite war (Cuba, Serbia until last week, Cold War USSR, etc.): 
 Killing a leader will only make him a martyr, esp. if he has a 
strong popular mandate.  This would only help galvanize an 
anti-American movement, leading to terrorism.  At best, some 
successor would simply fill the vacuum.

* War:  Like above, such an action might serve only to intensify any 
fighting.  Also, it would be a waste of resources.  Unlike chess, 
the idea is not to eliminate the "king," but to capture your 
objective, which is not necessarily the same thing.  No matter how 
charismatic your enemy leader is, the successor would probably be 
competent enough to continue to wage war.

There are some special situations for which assassination might be 
exactly what the doctor ordered:

* If the enemy cultural mobilization is founded primarily on a cult 
of personality.

* If the enemy is highly disorganized in the ranks and the leader is 
a control freak.  Then it would be like chess.

So, for recent US enemies:

* Hussein:  Great candidate.  The only thing the Iraqis hate more 
than Hussein is the US.  If Hussein is eliminated, that would allow 
trade sanctions to be lifted.  I doubt Hussein would be considered a 
martyr since Iraq has been condemned by most of the Muslim world, 
and because he ruled with a military iron fist w/o the pretense of 
being a religious leader.

* Milosevic:  Poor candidate.  Until recently, what gave Milosevic 
his power was strong popular support among ethnic Serbs.  Even if 
Milosevic were eliminated, the motivations for the Balkan wars would 
 have still resided in the populace.  In the current situation, if 
for some reason Milosevic were able retain support from the 
military, then he would be a ripe assassination candidate.

I think it's important to note that if you're as libertarian as 
Harry Browne, you would probably not support US involvement in 
either the Persian Gulf or the Balkans.  If that is the case, then I 
cannot imagine a possible conflict in which assassination would be 
worth the funding it would take and risks it would entail, apart 
from discombobulating the occasional violent cult.

Regards,

Sourav Mandal



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Re: Assassination

2000-10-05 Thread GMUresearch

In a message dated 10/5/00 5:54:21 PM Eastern Daylight Time, 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 Harry Browne, the libertarian candidate, said that the way a free society 
would handle war is to offer a prize to the person or persons who 
assassinated the leader(s) of the opposing country.  (..)
 This principle seems entirely reasonable to me.  Indeed, the only
 reason I can think of why we don't do this is that it would work so well
 that our own leaders would fear for their lives.  
  >>

...And what makes you be sure that actual prizes are not given to succesful 
military (perhaps secret) operations?
...Bodyguards surely behave as if that were the case...
...Maybe I've seen too many Bond movies... :)

-Etch



Assassination

2000-10-05 Thread Alex Tabarrok

   In the presidential debates the other night, Harry Browne, the
libertarian candidate (did you think I would waste my time watching Bush
and Gore?), said that the way a free society would handle war is to
offer a prize to the person or persons who assassinated the leader(s) of
the opposing country.  A prize (ala Longitude, see also Robin Hanson's
work) of say 500 million should provide plenty of motivation to guards,
wives, snipers etc.  In this way, a much reduced defense force could be
maintained and it would spare thousands upon thousands of innocent
civilians who we today bomb and kill to try to weaken the leader's
resolve.

This principle seems entirely reasonable to me.  Indeed, the only
reason I can think of why we don't do this is that it would work so well
that our own leaders would fear for their lives.  But, as noted above,
we slaughtered tens of thousands of Iraqi's in the Gulf War and continue
to kill many innocent civilians through our embargo (also of course we
subjected tens of thousands of US soldiers to possible death), millions
died in WWII etc. - all this death just to protect a few leaders?  That
is surely monstrous -
although it makes sense from the point of view of the leaders. 

Are there any good reasons for an anti-assassination policy?

Alex
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