Re: Grade inflation - an easy explanation?

2003-01-14 Thread AdmrlLocke
Good point in general.  In this particular case, however, Iowa requires too 
semesters of rhetoric for everyone.  That means that they have something like 
200 sections of rhetoric per year, so if the classes has even the same 
percentage of student complaints as normal undergraduate classes the 
department would be swamed with complaints.  Of course in an environment in 
which the students had to make a real case for their complaints instead of 
the instructors having to "disprove" the complaints much of the cost of 
complaints would be shifted to the students.  Complaints without a solid 
prima facie basis would get dismissed out of hand.

David Levenstam


In a message dated 1/14/03 5:35:18 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

>
>Also consider the possibility that many departments get budgets based on
>enrollments - and tough grades scare students away! Fabio 
>
>On Tue, 14 Jan 2003 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>
>> In the Rhetoric Department at Iowa instructors who tried to actually
>teach 
>> writing  and therefore generated many student complaints were offered
>out of 
>> their contracts--that is, forced out--because the chair and assistant
>chair 
>> didn't want to deal with student complaints.
>> 
>> In a message dated 1/14/03 2:17:30 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
>> 
>> >
>> >Has anybody tested the hypothesis that professors assign easy grades
>> >because it sucks up too much time?
>> >
>> >Consider the costs of tough grading - spending more time correcting
>> >papers, extra time spent arguing grades with students and the extra
>effort
>> >it takes to design challenging tests and assignments. 
>> >
>> >Fabio  
>> 
>




Re: Grade inflation - an easy explanation?

2003-01-14 Thread Arham Choudhury
> Has anybody tested the hypothesis that professors
> assign easy grades
> because it sucks up too much time?

Hi,

I am intersted in a related question. Are grades of
new and/or 'experimental' classes intentionally
inflated? 

New classes often suffer from poor attendance and an
initial bout of 'inflation' may be a good way to get
more students to enroll.

Thanks
Arham

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Re: Grade inflation - an easy explanation?

2003-01-14 Thread fabio guillermo rojas

Also consider the possibility that many departments get budgets based on
enrollments - and tough grades scare students away! Fabio 

On Tue, 14 Jan 2003 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

> In the Rhetoric Department at Iowa instructors who tried to actually teach 
> writing  and therefore generated many student complaints were offered out of 
> their contracts--that is, forced out--because the chair and assistant chair 
> didn't want to deal with student complaints.
> 
> In a message dated 1/14/03 2:17:30 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
> 
> >
> >Has anybody tested the hypothesis that professors assign easy grades
> >because it sucks up too much time?
> >
> >Consider the costs of tough grading - spending more time correcting
> >papers, extra time spent arguing grades with students and the extra effort
> >it takes to design challenging tests and assignments. 
> >
> >Fabio  
> 





Re: Grade inflation - an easy explanation?

2003-01-14 Thread fabio guillermo rojas

> begin with?  Why did grade inflation begin to occur
> when it did (the 1960s??)?  I doubt it was because
> grading time increased?

Actually, grading time increased around the 1960's - larger class sizes.
Per student it's less but many more students. Also, it's my impression
research requirements for tenure increasred around that time. So the cost
of time went up at that time.

Fabio





Re: Grade inflation - an easy explanation?

2003-01-14 Thread AdmrlLocke
In the Rhetoric Department at Iowa instructors who tried to actually teach 
writing  and therefore generated many student complaints were offered out of 
their contracts--that is, forced out--because the chair and assistant chair 
didn't want to deal with student complaints.

In a message dated 1/14/03 2:17:30 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

>
>Has anybody tested the hypothesis that professors assign easy grades
>because it sucks up too much time?
>
>Consider the costs of tough grading - spending more time correcting
>papers, extra time spent arguing grades with students and the extra effort
>it takes to design challenging tests and assignments. 
>
>Fabio  




Re: Grade inflation - an easy explanation?

2003-01-14 Thread Seth H. Giertz
If that were the case, why weren’t grades easy to
begin with?  Why did grade inflation begin to occur
when it did (the 1960s??)?  I doubt it was because
grading time increased?

Grading can take a lot of time, but at research
universities, faculty often don’t do their own
grading.  Multiple choice exams (or having fewer exams
or graded assignments) can also save time, without
necessitating grade inflation.

Seth Giertz

--- fabio guillermo rojas
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 
> Has anybody tested the hypothesis that professors
> assign easy grades
> because it sucks up too much time?
> 
> Consider the costs of tough grading - spending more
> time correcting
> papers, extra time spent arguing grades with
> students and the extra effort
> it takes to design challenging tests and
> assignments. 
> 
> Fabio  
> 
> 
> 


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Grade inflation - an easy explanation?

2003-01-13 Thread fabio guillermo rojas

Has anybody tested the hypothesis that professors assign easy grades
because it sucks up too much time?

Consider the costs of tough grading - spending more time correcting
papers, extra time spent arguing grades with students and the extra effort
it takes to design challenging tests and assignments. 

Fabio