Re: A deep look at media bias

2003-12-04 Thread chris macrae
Media blindness in all its forms is a crusade of our web at
www.beyond-branding.com , assembled and blogged by over 40 repenting
marketing professionals

Always happy to try to contextually mark anyone's map of all the ways
this system compounds many of the depressing dynamics happening around
our world. Chris Macrae, [EMAIL PROTECTED] , editor of first journal
issue connecting corporate brand and responsibility

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From: ArmChair List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of rex
Sent: 03 December 2003 22:36
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Subject: Re: A deep look at media bias

I've seen many stories about government attempts to stop price gouging
and
none even hinted that there was another side, that gouging was good,
that
anti-gouging laws shouldn't exist, that they defeat market pricing, or
that
the laws caused problems.

I've seen many stories about seafood being overharvested and need more
government laws to limit takes, and never seen any mention that the
problem
was government ownership of water, defeating supply and demand
incentives,
soggy socialism, and the need for private property rights that would
enable
farming and market pricing.  (if that wasn't bad enough I rarely see
stories
on farming of seafood, and they NEVER make the tie in to the lack of
property rights in water that cause overharvesting in government water.
It
is unfortunate that (I believe) even the seafood farmers can't make the
tie
in, coming from government schools). I have never seen a seafood farmer
on
land suggest that he should be able to own areas now owned by government
in
order to farm in water owned by government, I have never seen a reporter
ask
such a question).

I've seen many stories about water conservation and watering
restrictions
even including police state patrols and enforcement, and never seen even
a
hint that the problem was government ownership, lack of competition,
lack of
market pricing, defeating supply and demand, that would eliminate all
the
coverage made by the reporter in his socialist story.

those are 3 easy ones I see a lot.  I could go on and on.  You've
inspired
me to ask the list serve participants to compile a collection.  Please
send
in more examples of media blindness about capitalism, free market
economics,
pricing, property rights, which all prove that the first amendment is
incompatible with government schools, and the latter must end.  I swear
it
seems our schools accomplish exactly what soviet schools accomplished.
the
media prove that government schools produce socialists who know nothing
about free market economics.


Re: Real wages constant since 1964?!

2003-12-04 Thread Bryan Caplan
Really?  Every undergraduate class I can remember listed the failure to
adjust for quality as one of the main problems with the CPI.  And I
don't think they just said it was inadequate.
William Dickens wrote:

This is completely wrong. The CPI-u is, and the CPI-x was, adjusted
for

quality changes (see http://www.bls.gov/cpi/home.htm ). The CPI-X
doesn't exist anymore.
So what price statistic wasn't adjusted for quality changes?


They all are. No one (who knew what he was talking about) has ever
claimed that they are not adjusted. The common claim is that the
adjustments (which are quite complex and differ across different types
of goods) are inadequate. - - Bill
William T. Dickens
The Brookings Institution
1775 Massachusetts Avenue, NW
Washington, DC 20036
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 --Ralph Waldo Emerson, Self-Reliance


Re: Real wages constant since 1964?!

2003-12-04 Thread William Dickens
Not my class! I remember laboring for a while under the misimpression that hedonic 
methods were used for autos (they aren't), but when you took Econ 1 from me I 
certainly never said the CPI wasn't adjusted for quality.

And yes, you can go the BLS web links that I had in my original post and read the 
technical documentation. This is, and has been for a long time, a major issue that 
people spend a lot of time thinking about.

I think you are remembering your undergraduate education incorrectly (it has been a 
while Bryan). Some goods don't get any quality adjustment. It is possible that that is 
what you are remembering. There are cases where there are quality changes and no 
adjustment, but every index is, and always has been (as far as I know), adjusted to 
some extent to allow for quality changes. - - Bill

William T. Dickens
The Brookings Institution
1775 Massachusetts Avenue, NW
Washington, DC 20036
Phone: (202) 797-6113
FAX: (202) 797-6181
E-MAIL: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
AOL IM: wtdickens

 Bryan Caplan [EMAIL PROTECTED] 12/04/03 02:43PM 
Really?  Every undergraduate class I can remember listed the failure to
adjust for quality as one of the main problems with the CPI.  And I
don't think they just said it was inadequate.

William Dickens wrote:

This is completely wrong. The CPI-u is, and the CPI-x was, adjusted

 for

quality changes (see http://www.bls.gov/cpi/home.htm ). The CPI-X
doesn't exist anymore.

So what price statistic wasn't adjusted for quality changes?


 They all are. No one (who knew what he was talking about) has ever
 claimed that they are not adjusted. The common claim is that the
 adjustments (which are quite complex and differ across different types
 of goods) are inadequate. - - Bill

 William T. Dickens
 The Brookings Institution
 1775 Massachusetts Avenue, NW
 Washington, DC 20036
 Phone: (202) 797-6113
 FAX: (202) 797-6181
 E-MAIL: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 AOL IM: wtdickens


--
 Prof. Bryan Caplan
Department of Economics  George Mason University
 http://www.bcaplan.com  [EMAIL PROTECTED]

 Infancy conforms to nobody: all conform to it, so that
  one babe commonly makes four or five out of the adults
  who prattle and play to it.

  --Ralph Waldo Emerson, Self-Reliance


Re: Real wages constant since 1964?!

2003-12-04 Thread John Perich
As the listmember who probably has the dampest ink on his econ B.A., I can verify that that's what's being taught in our universities.

-JP[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
In a message dated 12/4/03 3:07:31 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:I think you are remembering your undergraduate education incorrectly (ithas been a while Bryan). Some goods don't get any quality adjustment. Itis possible that that is what you are remembering. There are cases wherethere are quality changes and no adjustment, but every index is, and alwayshas been (as far as I know), adjusted to some extent to allow for qualitychanges. - - BillNope. I learned the same thing, albeit some years earlier, in myundergraduate education, that the CPI-u doesn't adjust for changes in quality or in themarket basket.Davi
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