Re: [arr] Re: RAHMAN RULZ DOODZ!

[Ram Motipally]

Brilliantly fantastico ! Couldn't have expressed any better!

On Wed Sep 8th, 2010 8:59 PM CDT AJ wrote:

>One of the BEST posts ever here!!! BRAVO!  Love it  TOO GOOD!
>
>--- In arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com, Triply  wrote:
>>
>> BREAKING NEWS!!
>> 
>> A new deadly virus seems to have afflicted the Indian populace. The virus,
>> dubbed "Rahman Rulz Doodz", seem to affect certain Rahman fans. The
>> affliction seems to cause panic attacks, high blood pressure, ulcers, short
>> temper and, in extreme cases, depression.
>> 
>> Symptoms: Are you afflicted by Rahman Rulz Doodz? Here is a quick
>> questionnaire that helps you decide:
>> 
>> 1. Do you get worked up when a new Rahman album is launched, but does not
>> release on the same day?
>> 2. Do you find journalists yellow because they have something negative to
>> say about Rahman?
>> 3. Is Ram Gopal Verma a useless guy because he thinks Rahman ruined film
>> music?
>> 4. Is Anu Malik a swell dude because he supported Rahman's CWG theme?
>> 5. Is the CWG is one big mess where no one there can be any good because
>> they were disappointed with Rahman's theme?
>> 6. Is every new channel a house of lies because they run Rahman's CWG to the
>> ground?
>> 7. Is IBNLive a wretched spawn of satan because they have derogatory things
>> to say about Rahman?
>> 8. Do you feel that Rahman is giving his absolute best with masterpieces
>> like Komaram Puli, Endhiran and the CWG theme?
>> 9. Is every one's opinion invalid, if they differ from yours, particularly
>> with reference to Rahman?
>> 10. Do you think Rahman is a god?
>> 
>> If you answered yes to:-
>> A) less than 3 questions - you are relatively sane.
>> B) more than 2 questions but less than 5 questions - you are about to be
>> afflicted. Take care. Breathe deeply and calm yourself. You may be an
>> anorak.
>> C) more than 4 questions but less than 10 - Dude, you are totally afflicted.
>> Take a chill pill. Relax. Rahman Rulz Doode, but You Drools and that's
>> Roode.
>> D) all 10 questions - get a life. Seriously.
>> 
>> How to avoid the affliction:
>> 
>> 1. Don't take everything you read about Rahman to heart. Sometimes, people
>> like saying nasty things, even if it is unwarranted.
>> 2. Understand that not everything Rahman makes is a masterpiece. Not
>> everything Rahman composes will be liked by everyone. People can have strong
>> reactions to things they don't like, just like you can.
>> 3. Understand that Rahman is not a god. He is only human. He can make
>> mistakes too.
>> 4. Rahman is the best Indian music composer. It is a fact for everyone to
>> see. You needn't worry about someone not knowing that fact and make it your
>> personal quest to enlighten the poor deluded fool.
>> 
>> What to do you do to cure yourself of the affliction?
>> 
>> The cure is the other side of the affliction. Rahman has made some of the
>> greatest music on earth. Listen to it. Disregard external factors. Just
>> enjoy your private world, drowning in his music. Discuss the positive
>> aspects of his compositions. Don't get into a whole "my gun is bigger than
>> yours" argument with someone who strongly resents some composition. Just
>> agree to disagree and move on.
>> 
>> This group is one of my favourite hangouts and I have been here for quite
>> sometime. I love reading the different view points and discussions and I
>> love gauging the excitement when a new album is about to release. What I
>> don't like is the venom that is posted here. Whether it is against another
>> member, or some news channel, a web site, a composer, or anyone else.
>> 
>> Gopal created this for a community of Rahmaniacs. Let's not lose the "Rah"
>> and become plain maniacs.
>> 
>> Apologies if I offended anyone.
>>
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Re: [arr] Re: Revisited a true and almost hidden ARR beauty......

[ardhendu das]

hi guys, itz a gem of an album. strangely, other than the title song, i like 
all the remaining 5 songs..so magical..so pure rahmantic..i hd d cassette which 
is in bad condition now. can u plz provide download links of the songs??

--- On Thu, 9/9/10, Hiten Shah  wrote:

From: Hiten Shah 
Subject: Re: [arr] Re: Revisited a true and almost hidden ARR beauty..
To: arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com
Date: Thursday, 9 September, 2010, 10:34 AM















 
 



  



  
  
  Tu hi tu is my favourite from the album... 
 
i also like tTune of mil hi gaye.
 
Its unique and altogether different album, also one of my favourite..


On Thu, Sep 9, 2010 at 9:24 AM, vimaljk  wrote:


  



Yes!...One of ARR's underrated gems...except for Mil Gayee (mostly b/c it pales 
in comparison to Anjali) the album is perfect! 

--- In arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com, "AJ"  wrote:
>
> The song: Tum Ho Meri Nicahon Main

> Singers: Hariharan and Sujatha
> The Album: Kabhi Na Kabhi
> Year: 1997
> 
> This is one of the most beautiful and unique ARR songs ever. I picture a 
> beautiful figure skater when I hear this song...or a warm sunny day and 
> gentle breeze...or a gently flowing water stream.or children laughing and 
> playing innocently in a green field I just can't describe the feeling I 
> get when listening to that song. The song itself is so classy, sweet, 
> scintillating, innocent, pure, lilting, captivating, soothingneed I go 
> on? There is just no other song like it.

> 
> The symphonic soundscape that ARR has used is out of this world to such a 
> bouncy waltz rhythm enraptured by Hariharan's and Sujatha's semi soft, 
> nuanced semi classical singing. The interludes are long and elaborated and 
> oozing with sparkle, sweetness, and dignity. I just love the flute in this 
> song.

> 
> ARR's sound template even back then was so nuanced and varied and this song 
> doesn't sound dated one bit. 
> 
> The other song I like very much in this album is Tu Hi Tu by Shreekumar and 
> Chitra. Another beauty!

>








 





 



  

Re: [arr] ARR songs for meditation/stress relief

[wiredbeats]

1. Silent Invocation Part A,B,C from Nokia Connections
2. Few portions in Swades BGM
3. Sati theme from Mangal Pandey BGM
4. Naina  from Water sound track
5. Sound track of Passage ( Shekar Kau'r free movie)
6. One awesome track from Elizabeth the golden age ( forgetting the 
name :( 

Will send more!
 
-

Charity at Cradleindia.org and Music at wiredbeats.com 





From: Lux 
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Sent: Thu, 9 September, 2010 11:28:26 AM
Subject: [arr] ARR songs for meditation/stress relief

  
I am trying to make a playlist of songs of meditative nature
Your suggestions would be most appreciated!
:-)

  
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Re: [arr] Abbas @ twitter on JHS

[partha sarathi]

Aah, Can't wait for the album anymore.Cry Cry is 
already killing me and the Abbas's tweet is making me get ready to bowled 
over Why can't the time run fast this time??

P'ARR'THA
--- On Thu, 9/9/10, sharad  wrote:

From: sharad 
Subject: [arr] Abbas @ twitter on JHS
To: arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com
Date: Thursday, 9 September, 2010, 11:02 AM







 



  



  
  
  RT @AbbasTyrewala: for all those who love a.r.rahman, i promise you a 
gift very soon. all I ask in exchange is the respect it deserves. own 



listen as it should be heard. in all its splendour with all its sound, and all 
the wizardry of a.r.rahman. not downloaded on wanker mp3. 



i'm curious. do people realise that mp3 is a weaker, watered down sound? 
honest... does everyone know its like a low-res video versus HD? 



@bezarre yes, nine tracks including a remix and a reprise. its a pretty loaded 
album, loads of variety, well worth owning I think. 






 





 



  

Re: [arr] ARR songs for meditation/stress relief

[Nazri Usham]

Uyirum neeye thaye - Pavithra...only this song is enf bro it'l melt ur hart :-)






From: Lux 
To: "arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com" 
Cc: "arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com" 
Sent: Thursday, September 9, 2010 11:28:26
Subject: [arr] ARR songs for meditation/stress relief

  
I am trying to make a playlist of songs of meditative nature
Your suggestions would be most appreciated!
:-)

  
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[arr] ‘Be nice to A R Rahman’

[Siddiq Rahman]

‘Be nice to A R Rahman’

Negativity surrounds music director A R Rahman’s  Commonwealth Games theme 
song; 
people have openly expressed their  dislike and said the Oscar winner couldn’t 
live up to their  expectations. But, for composer Vishal Dadlani, a part of 
Bollywood’s  music fraternity, people should understand and appreciate what 
Rahman  has done for music and India. 


Vishal has reacted vehemently to all the bad comments about the CWG  theme and 
writes on Twitter, “The only infallible one is god, who sends  music to us all. 
Everyone else is human, including Rahman. We’re all  allowed off days. Be nice. 
All you doubters, and haters, please  understand that Rahman has done more for 
music and India’s international  image than almost anyone else.” 


Rahman will appear on the show Sa Re Ga Ma Pa Singing Superstar that has Vishal 
as one of the judges. No doubt, Vishal is on cloud nine  as he is going to meet 
the iconic music director for the first time.  The episode will be aired soon. 


Earlier, song writer Mehboob too defended Rahman and claims that people are 
forgetting that the number is not for a film but is a theme song for CWG.   

 http://www.apunkachoice.com/content/article/sid13244-be_nice_to_a_r_rahman/


  

[arr] Re: ARR songs for meditation/stress relief

[DineshVaidya]

Have been using Rahman therapy for stress relief on myself and others for last 
15 years and find that ANY Rahman song can be used to de-stress anybody.

And if you are part of a group / band where you can participate in exploring 
the Rahman sound, then you are "blessed" !

I would nevertheless recommend entire albums such as CONNECTIONS, Water, 
Swades, Lagaan, Kannathil Mudhalmittal, Parthale Parvasam, SDM, Bombay, VTV, 
D6. I can go on and on.

Once you are "connected" with ARR's music, you are in a blissful world 
altogether...

Jai HO!

Dinesh Vaidya
The Wandering Souls "Rahmania"
Pune

--- In arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com, Lux  wrote:
>
> I am trying to make a playlist of songs of meditative nature
> Your suggestions would be most appreciated!
> :-)
> 

Re: [arr] Sukhwinder problem?

[V S Rawat]

If someone is finding everyone mad, one possibility is that everybody 
is not mad and this person should get himself checked up whether he 
himself might be.

It is sickening to the soul to see that we are uttering such biased 
statement undermining everybody. Anyone who speaks good of ARR 
instantly become intelligent, caring, creative, considerate and what 
not, and anyone uttering any word that doesn't go well with ARR's 
repute in our mind, that person instantly become loser, mad, 
opportunist, politician, envious, publicity monger and what not.

This list has seen many ups and lows in 11 years, but this phase seems 
to be the lowest ever when we fans are acting like narcissus not able 
to see and appreciate anyone's view point. I hope better sense will 
prevail soon.

I condemn anyone calling anyone mad. If we can't respect one artist 
and one human, it is quite likely that we don't at all know what 
respect is, and our claims of respecting someone else have to be fake.

--
Rawat

On 9/9/2010 9:14 AM India Time, _A.R.Rajib_ wrote:

> Thanks a ton for the link bro !!!
>
> *For the Jai Ho Song the Option given to the Fans was "The jai ho song
> was sung by Sukwinder,even though it is popular as a A.R.Rahman's
> SongHow does Sukwinder react on this matter ? "*
> *
> *
> *The option was ...*
> *
> *
> *A. After getting the Oscar A.R.Rahman dint give equal honor to the singer*
> *B. The singer got enough honor as he deserves*
> *C.There is grudge ,but he dont wanna say anything in public*
>
> I just hope i dont have to translate the hindi by Sukwinder ! The guy is
> mad !! Dont know from where he got the 2nd time ..jai ho wasnt performed
> on Grammys :s He needs to get his facts correct !!
>
> I dont know why this particular show only invited same kind of people
> ...Kumar shanu , Bappi Lahiri , Pritam , Sukwinder , Abhijeet , Manna
> dey ..U know what i mean !! All these people's character are kind of
> similar :s
>
> people Watch the video ..hear it from the person's mouth itself !!
>
> On Tue, Sep 7, 2010 at 2:50 PM, Arijit Debnath  > wrote:
>
>
>
> Rajib,
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7XfG2dulp8w&feature=related
> 
> Arijit
>
> On 7 September 2010 10:19, A.R.Rajib  > wrote:
>
> Oh...i missed that Episode :-( Is there any re-telecast of this
> ? Can record and upload the same :-) Watched Bappi lahiri,Kumar
> shanu,Manna dey,Pritam and other episodes just to listen if they
> comment anything about ARR !!
>
>
> On Mon, Sep 6, 2010 at 9:56 PM, Arijit Debnath
> mailto:arijit...@gmail.com>> wrote:
>
>
>
> because he is not aware how to apply for visa in proper time
> and get it... further more he is bad mouthing ARRahman.
> In a Bengali show "Ke Hobe Biggest Fan?" (who will be the
> biggest fan?).. he conveyed something like below:
> *He doesn't have any regrets for not being at
> oscars...but his only regret is that at Oscars in background
> his voice was playing but two ladies were doing lip
> syncing. that's a shame.*
> See how baseless allegation he put against Rahman.
> Arijit
>
>
> On 4 September 2010 13:43, Thulasi Ram  > wrote:
>
> can anyone please summarize why sukhwinder was not part
> of oscar and grammies, when gulzar, tanvi and vijay
> prakash were part of it?
>
>
> thanks.
>

Re: [arr] Sukhwinder problem?

[Arijit Debnath]

Rahman earns such respect from his fans (and non-fans also) not only for his
music... but also for his behavior, nature, down to earth personality, and
not bad mouthing against anyone. That's why speaking good of Rahman becomes
intelligent, caring, creative etc etc.

Perhaps other musicians learn these non-professional etiquette to earn
respect like Rahman. Rahman single handedly lifted Sukhi's voice in entire
India, that should not be forgotten by Sukhi. Which Sukhi is telling is
noting but lying and that cant be tolerated (at least by me).

I think if Sukhi is not happy for not performing at the Oscar stage (which I
also wanted him to perform) he could have told that he was never invited by
Rahman and he got unhappy for the same instead of uttering such baseless
lies.

Arijit

On 9 September 2010 14:59, V S Rawat  wrote:

>
>
> If someone is finding everyone mad, one possibility is that everybody
> is not mad and this person should get himself checked up whether he
> himself might be.
>
> It is sickening to the soul to see that we are uttering such biased
> statement undermining everybody. Anyone who speaks good of ARR
> instantly become intelligent, caring, creative, considerate and what
> not, and anyone uttering any word that doesn't go well with ARR's
> repute in our mind, that person instantly become loser, mad,
> opportunist, politician, envious, publicity monger and what not.
>
> This list has seen many ups and lows in 11 years, but this phase seems
> to be the lowest ever when we fans are acting like narcissus not able
> to see and appreciate anyone's view point. I hope better sense will
> prevail soon.
>
> I condemn anyone calling anyone mad. If we can't respect one artist
> and one human, it is quite likely that we don't at all know what
> respect is, and our claims of respecting someone else have to be fake.
>
> --
> Rawat
>
>
> On 9/9/2010 9:14 AM India Time, _A.R.Rajib_ wrote:
>
> > Thanks a ton for the link bro !!!
> >
> > *For the Jai Ho Song the Option given to the Fans was "The jai ho song
> > was sung by Sukwinder,even though it is popular as a A.R.Rahman's
> > SongHow does Sukwinder react on this matter ? "*
> > *
> > *
> > *The option was ...*
> > *
> > *
> > *A. After getting the Oscar A.R.Rahman dint give equal honor to the
> singer*
> > *B. The singer got enough honor as he deserves*
> > *C.There is grudge ,but he dont wanna say anything in public*
> >
> > I just hope i dont have to translate the hindi by Sukwinder ! The guy is
> > mad !! Dont know from where he got the 2nd time ..jai ho wasnt performed
> > on Grammys :s He needs to get his facts correct !!
> >
> > I dont know why this particular show only invited same kind of people
> > ...Kumar shanu , Bappi Lahiri , Pritam , Sukwinder , Abhijeet , Manna
> > dey ..U know what i mean !! All these people's character are kind of
> > similar :s
> >
> > people Watch the video ..hear it from the person's mouth itself !!
> >
> > On Tue, Sep 7, 2010 at 2:50 PM, Arijit Debnath 
> > 
> > > wrote:
> >
> >
> >
> > Rajib,
> > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7XfG2dulp8w&feature=related
> > 
> > Arijit
> >
> > On 7 September 2010 10:19, A.R.Rajib 
> > 
> > > wrote:
> >
> > Oh...i missed that Episode :-( Is there any re-telecast of this
> > ? Can record and upload the same :-) Watched Bappi lahiri,Kumar
> > shanu,Manna dey,Pritam and other episodes just to listen if they
> > comment anything about ARR !!
> >
> >
> > On Mon, Sep 6, 2010 at 9:56 PM, Arijit Debnath
> >  
> > >
> wrote:
> >
> >
> >
> > because he is not aware how to apply for visa in proper time
> > and get it... further more he is bad mouthing ARRahman.
> > In a Bengali show "Ke Hobe Biggest Fan?" (who will be the
> > biggest fan?).. he conveyed something like below:
> > *He doesn't have any regrets for not being at
> > oscars...but his only regret is that at Oscars in background
> > his voice was playing but two ladies were doing lip
> > syncing. that's a shame.*
> > See how baseless allegation he put against Rahman.
> > Arijit
> >
> >
> > On 4 September 2010 13:43, Thulasi Ram 
> > 
> > > wrote:
> >
> > can anyone please summarize why sukhwinder was not part
> > of oscar and grammies, when gulzar, tanvi and vijay
> > prakash were part of it?
> >
> >
> > thanks.
> >
>
>  
>

Re: [arr] One more pointless blog article -

[|| V i s h w e s h ||]

Big Yawn!  Pls avoid posting these kinda of dud articles.. they are saying 
pretty much same senseless things again n again.. so it's kinda getting 
repetitive & very boring.. 




" The search is more important than the destination "
- a r rahman -





From: yeshrao81 
To: arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Thu, 9 September, 2010 3:07:34 PM
Subject: [arr] One more pointless blog article -

  
http://blogs.hindustantimes.com/capital-closeup/2010/09/08/rehmans-cwg-score-lacks-spunk/


Accusations - Rahman's range is limited, Vande Mataram album by ARR was not 
good, he has limited calibre, Rahman is worse singer in the country than most 
blah blah blah...

He says "Rehman must realize his limitations and accordingly take up future 
projects."

This guy does not even know its Rahman and not Rehman!!! Sick...

I dont know of any other composer in the world who has a range better than 
ARRs. 
He can compose almost all genres or music with equal brilliance.

Some people are really ignorant and dont let their ego die when it comes to 
accepting AR Rahman's success!!!

I have always maintained that AR Rehman is a greatly overrated composer and 
even 
though he has won an Oscar for the Slumdog Millionaire score, his compositions 
are more or less similar or have a very limited range. In any case, he is not 
in 
the same class as some of great maestros of yesteryears whose melodies continue 
to rule even now. Rehman in his limited range has achieved excellence and has 
thrived because there are not too many composers of his limited caliber who are 
also around. It would have been interesting to have observed Rehman had he 
lived 
and competed with the likes of Naushad, Shankar Jaikishen, SD Burman, Hemant 
Kumar, Roshan, Madan Mohan, OP Nayyar, Sajjad, Khayyam, Ravi, Salil Chaudhury, 
C 
Ramchandra, Anil Biswas, Hansraj Behal, SN Tripathi and even Lakshmikant 
Pyarelal, Kalyanji Anandji and RD Burman.
It is no wonder that his theme song for the Commonwealth Games has not gone 
down 
too well with the people and he is being accused of giving a mediocre number 
after charging Rs five crores for his troupe. CWG Chairman, Suresh Kalmadi 
clarified that Rehman had not accepted any money for himself and the amount was 
meant for the total performance carried out by the musical troupe accompanying 
him. Even though Kalmadi has liked the song, most people I know have been 
extremely critical of the whole composition. Their view is that the music is 
not 
catchy, it lacks Indian ness, it has poor lyrics and Rehman is perhaps a worse 
singer than most in this country. Without being rude, I share the view that any 
composition, which is meant for mass audiences and is going to be the theme 
song 
for an event like the Commonwealth Games must catch the imagination of all. One 
cannot certainly say that the composer's freedom to compose anything gives him 
a 
license to create a sub standard tune, which is for mass consumption. If Rehman 
and his troupe alone were to hear it, the justification of composer's freedom 
would have been okay. But here it will be sung and played out before an 
international audience of millions all around the world. If the song lacks the 
spunk and fails to generate enthusiasm, it is a failing of the composer. He 
should have played it before an objective audience before pushing it as the CWG 
theme song.
I do acknowledge that he has given good scores in many movies in his limited 
range but he has failed to be convincing when he has gone in for mass numbers. 
Nearly a decade ago, he had done a new version of Vande Matram. But than one 
could not help making comparisons with Hemant Kumar's evergreen Vande Matram 
number for Anandmath, which was picturised on Geeta Bali and sung by Lata 
Mangeshkar. Hemant Da's number scores in every sense of the word and till date 
no version of the national song has come any where near it.
I do not know what the CWG organizers can do at this late stage but people are 
already unfairly comparing Shakira's livelier Waka Waka at this year's Soccer 
World Cup to Rehman's composition. It is for Rehman to figure out how best he 
can make amends. Otherwise the song could have generated enthusiasm to lift up 
the sagging spirits due to the pathetic preparations in the run up to the 
Games. 
What it has achieved is that it has spoilt the mood of music lovers further. 
Rehman must realize his limitations and accordingly take up future projects.



 

[arr] Article in yahoo

[karthik]

Is Rahmania Over?
By Suma Nagaraj – September 8th, 2010
 
Poor A R Rahman is at the receiving end again.

The CWG theme song, Jiyo Utho Badho Jeetho, (inspiration for the song title 
falls somewhere between Swami Vivekananda's clarion call, Arise, Awake and Stop 
Not Till the Goal is Reached and 4 Non Blondes' Bigger, Better, Faster, More, I 
think) is facing a lot of flak from all quarters, I feel for all the wrong 
reasons.

 

First, A R Rahman is a creative genius, but he's no Miss Shumway and can't 
magically wave a wand across a sheet of paper and come up with a catchy tune 
every time he's asked to (or paid upwards of Rs 5 crores to).

Secondly, odious comparisons to Waka Waka (which was insufferable, if you ask 
me) are grossly unwarranted. All those screaming from the rooftops that there's 
no catchphrase like `Waka Waka' in the CWG theme, there is. If a catchphrase is 
all you wanted, how about Jiyo Utho? Or Badho Jeetho?

Thirdly, I feel the whole anti-Rahman movement is some kind of a ploy to take 
attention away from the many ills that plague the Commonwealth Games. This song 
is just that – a song, another of our attempts to ape what other mega sports 
event organizers would do. Since Rahman enjoys global recognition and appeal 
(thanks to one of the most lacklustre compositions in his oeuvre), he was 
promptly signed on for better visibility in the global sports scenario. Now how 
the Games will play out is anybody's guess.

If only a song could avert a debacle, we wouldn't be having this argument, 
would we?

But signing him off as creatively bankrupt and horror of horrors, rumours of 
him being asked to "recompose" the tune is an insult to a musical genius who's 
remained humble in spite of wild success, fame and fortune. He's not had a 
great score in the last 2 years (his last best was Dilli 6) and the one song 
the world knows him by, to put it in the words of a random commenter on some 
article on the Internet, sounds like a jingle he composed during his lunch 
break.

Genius is genius because, by definition, it's not ordinary. Now if every tune 
he composes is extraordinary, what does that make him?

I think he should be given the room to breathe and the time to clear out the 
ordinary tunes in his head and bring out more of those melodies we love him for.

 

What do you think of this controversy? Vote on our poll below:


Does A R Rahman deserve all the criticism over the CWG theme?
No, leave him alone.

Yes, he was paid for it.

Undecided - which is the majority here?

Haven't listened to the song, not interested.

Can we move on already?

Why do we need a CWG anthem?



Courtesy: http://in.yfittopostblog.com/2010/09/08/is-rahmania-over/

Re: [arr] One more pointless blog article -

[Triply]

>   Big Yawn! Pls avoid posting these kinda of dud articles.. they are
> saying pretty much same senseless things again n again.. so it's kinda
> getting repetitive & very boring..
>
>
>

I second it. It's not worth a read. It's been the same since 1995! We need
some fresh accusations. If someone talks about how Amit Trivedi, Ram Sampath
or Salim-Suleiman are better than Rahman, then there is something
interesting to read! Saying Rahman isn't as good as yesteryears' composers
is so passe.

Re: [arr] Article in yahoo

[Triply]

Suma reads James Hadley Chase!! Ms. Shumway Waves a Wand is one of his best
books!
I agree with a lot of points she raises - Waka Waka is not good, CWG itself
is a big mess, Slumdog is lacklustre. But I think she missed the boat with
no classic Rahman for 2 years. Yes, Delhi 6 was a masterpiece, but VtV is an
excellent album, as is Raavan. I think Endhiran has blinded her to that and
she forgot about these 2. Or, maybe, she has never heard of VtV.

On Thu, Sep 9, 2010 at 3:24 PM, karthik  wrote:

>
>
> Is Rahmania Over?
> By Suma Nagaraj – September 8th, 2010
>
> Poor A R Rahman is at the receiving end again.
>
> The CWG theme song, Jiyo Utho Badho Jeetho, (inspiration for the song title
> falls somewhere between Swami Vivekananda's clarion call, Arise, Awake and
> Stop Not Till the Goal is Reached and 4 Non Blondes' Bigger, Better, Faster,
> More, I think) is facing a lot of flak from all quarters, I feel for all the
> wrong reasons.
>
> First, A R Rahman is a creative genius, but he's no Miss Shumway and can't
> magically wave a wand across a sheet of paper and come up with a catchy tune
> every time he's asked to (or paid upwards of Rs 5 crores to).
>
> Secondly, odious comparisons to Waka Waka (which was insufferable, if you
> ask me) are grossly unwarranted. All those screaming from the rooftops that
> there's no catchphrase like `Waka Waka' in the CWG theme, there is. If a
> catchphrase is all you wanted, how about Jiyo Utho? Or Badho Jeetho?
>
> Thirdly, I feel the whole anti-Rahman movement is some kind of a ploy to
> take attention away from the many ills that plague the Commonwealth Games.
> This song is just that – a song, another of our attempts to ape what other
> mega sports event organizers would do. Since Rahman enjoys global
> recognition and appeal (thanks to one of the most lacklustre compositions in
> his oeuvre), he was promptly signed on for better visibility in the global
> sports scenario. Now how the Games will play out is anybody's guess.
>
> If only a song could avert a debacle, we wouldn't be having this argument,
> would we?
>
> But signing him off as creatively bankrupt and horror of horrors, rumours
> of him being asked to "recompose" the tune is an insult to a musical genius
> who's remained humble in spite of wild success, fame and fortune. He's not
> had a great score in the last 2 years (his last best was Dilli 6) and the
> one song the world knows him by, to put it in the words of a random
> commenter on some article on the Internet, sounds like a jingle he composed
> during his lunch break.
>
> Genius is genius because, by definition, it's not ordinary. Now if every
> tune he composes is extraordinary, what does that make him?
>
> I think he should be given the room to breathe and the time to clear out
> the ordinary tunes in his head and bring out more of those melodies we love
> him for.
>
> What do you think of this controversy? Vote on our poll below:
>
> Does A R Rahman deserve all the criticism over the CWG theme?
> No, leave him alone.
>
> Yes, he was paid for it.
>
> Undecided - which is the majority here?
>
> Haven't listened to the song, not interested.
>
> Can we move on already?
>
> Why do we need a CWG anthem?
>
> Courtesy: http://in.yfittopostblog.com/2010/09/08/is-rahmania-over/
>
> 
>

[arr] Re: RAHMAN RULZ DOODZ!

[AJ]

Which song you talking about Kishore?  

--- In arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com, kishore parayath  
wrote:
>
> I love the way how the song starts of with soft traditional traditional
> rhythm backed by mild acoustics, with very less bass notes; and the quick
> transition to jazzy chords and beautiful jazz notes. I have given it time,
> to grow on me.
>

Re: [arr] Sukhwinder problem?

[A.R.Rajib]

Ha Ha ha !! Nice one :P I Never said anyone else mad here except Sukwinder
 :P  I dont know the reason behind the statement u gave in this mail :P i
just can laugh :P

Anyway ...let's get to the main point..At the time of the Oscars Sukwinder
didnt left any stone unturned to show his anger on ARR ! He said "I will
perform on Oscars stage oneday" ( Just because he sung an song in an Steven
spielberg film ) ...and said so many "Mad" things on couple of interviews
!!

and now he is claiming that he dont at all crave this things !! And like all
other "Celeb" invited on this show he went on praising himself ( I watched
almost every episode ) by saying that even Rahman was shocked that he isnt
at all interested in Oscars !! But at the time of oscars he said ..ARR didnt
took him..and later we get to know that he had a visa proband now we
know he had an Show @ Kanpur ( Anyone attended that show from here ?..Anyone
from Kanpur ?? ) So , he possibly couldnt attend the Oscars ... Weird  isnt
it ? :-) Let's get the fact right !!

If ARR intentionally didnt took sukwinder and he feel it that way why he
aint saying so ? If asked he can also show us some evidence or something !!
What is the need of saying two different things in two diff places ? He is
just so mad about missing the chance of performing at the oscars !! Yes, Mad
is the correct word here in MY view !!

:-)

On Thu, Sep 9, 2010 at 3:29 PM, V S Rawat  wrote:

> If someone is finding everyone mad, one possibility is that everybody
> is not mad and this person should get himself checked up whether he
> himself might be.
>
> It is sickening to the soul to see that we are uttering such biased
> statement undermining everybody. Anyone who speaks good of ARR
> instantly become intelligent, caring, creative, considerate and what
> not, and anyone uttering any word that doesn't go well with ARR's
> repute in our mind, that person instantly become loser, mad,
> opportunist, politician, envious, publicity monger and what not.
>
> This list has seen many ups and lows in 11 years, but this phase seems
> to be the lowest ever when we fans are acting like narcissus not able
> to see and appreciate anyone's view point. I hope better sense will
> prevail soon.
>
> I condemn anyone calling anyone mad. If we can't respect one artist
> and one human, it is quite likely that we don't at all know what
> respect is, and our claims of respecting someone else have to be fake.
>
> --
> Rawat
>
> On 9/9/2010 9:14 AM India Time, _A.R.Rajib_ wrote:
>
> > Thanks a ton for the link bro !!!
> >
> > *For the Jai Ho Song the Option given to the Fans was "The jai ho song
> > was sung by Sukwinder,even though it is popular as a A.R.Rahman's
> > SongHow does Sukwinder react on this matter ? "*
> > *
> > *
> > *The option was ...*
> > *
> > *
> > *A. After getting the Oscar A.R.Rahman dint give equal honor to the
> singer*
> > *B. The singer got enough honor as he deserves*
> > *C.There is grudge ,but he dont wanna say anything in public*
> >
> > I just hope i dont have to translate the hindi by Sukwinder ! The guy is
> > mad !! Dont know from where he got the 2nd time ..jai ho wasnt performed
> > on Grammys :s He needs to get his facts correct !!
> >
> > I dont know why this particular show only invited same kind of people
> > ...Kumar shanu , Bappi Lahiri , Pritam , Sukwinder , Abhijeet , Manna
> > dey ..U know what i mean !! All these people's character are kind of
> > similar :s
> >
> > people Watch the video ..hear it from the person's mouth itself !!
> >
> > On Tue, Sep 7, 2010 at 2:50 PM, Arijit Debnath  > > wrote:
> >
> >
> >
> > Rajib,
> > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7XfG2dulp8w&feature=related
> > 
> > Arijit
> >
> > On 7 September 2010 10:19, A.R.Rajib  > > wrote:
> >
> > Oh...i missed that Episode :-( Is there any re-telecast of this
> > ? Can record and upload the same :-) Watched Bappi lahiri,Kumar
> > shanu,Manna dey,Pritam and other episodes just to listen if they
> > comment anything about ARR !!
> >
> >
> > On Mon, Sep 6, 2010 at 9:56 PM, Arijit Debnath
> > mailto:arijit...@gmail.com>> wrote:
> >
> >
> >
> > because he is not aware how to apply for visa in proper time
> > and get it... further more he is bad mouthing ARRahman.
> > In a Bengali show "Ke Hobe Biggest Fan?" (who will be the
> > biggest fan?).. he conveyed something like below:
> > *He doesn't have any regrets for not being at
> > oscars...but his only regret is that at Oscars in background
> > his voice was playing but two ladies were doing lip
> > syncing. that's a shame.*
> > See how baseless allegation he put against Rahman.
> > Arijit
> >
> >
> > On 4 S

[arr] When A R Rahman kickstarted this desi's career

[A.R.Rajib]

 When A R Rahman kickstarted this *desi*'s career
September 08, 2010 17:01 IST

*
*

J*effrey Iqbal on how a generous moment from A R Rahman [
Images ]
ignited his**musical career.*



 I am originally from Newark, Delaware. My father, born in Gujarat, India,
and mother, born in Karachi, Pakistan, moved to the United States decades
ago, where they had three children.

As a first generation American *desi*, I felt fortunate being exposed to so
many more diverse cultures, languages, foods, countries, music and people
than my average American friends.

One of those major life-changing things in my home was music. Listening to
1980s pop music on the radio, then hearing Hindustani classical at home, I
was exposed to two ends of a spectrum.

As I got older, one of those styles of music was developed more than the
other. Although I was in the school band and choir, I had also started
learning the tabla, Hindustani classical and light vocals. I taught myself
how to play the harmonium.

It wasn't long before my affinity to *desi* music would turn into pubic
performances and local music competitions. Years past and life moved on.
Eight years on, the music had left my life.

In the summer of 2007, I took my last leap of faith. For years I had tried
to audition for many musical shows and teams but failed. I was down to my
last bit of effort, when I saw an article in *India Abroad,* titled 'A R
Rahman's Talent Hunt.' Even then I didn't see how I could stand a chance, so
I did nothing. As the deadline to submit a recording came near, I had a
feeling inside that told me to just send it.

So I did, with very little expectations of hearing back. Within a couple of
weeks, I got a phone call saying that I made it to the next round and that I
needed to come to New York to audition live.

Keeping this a secret from everyone, I drove to New York where contestants
from all over the US and Canada [
Images ]
were present. One by one I heard these talented people sing, and I knew I
didn't stand a chance. It was finally time for my name to be called. As I
walked toward the room where I was going to audition, I held my harmonium in
one hand while a cameraman from the network recorded my every move. I walked
into the room, looked to my left, and there he was, A R Rahman.

Usually, I'm quite nervous to perform in front of anyone, but for some
reason, I felt very comfortable and reassured. AR was a very down-to-earth,
soft-spoken person. Someone I felt comfortable around immediately. After the
audition process was over, all the contestants were brought into a room
where the winner was to be announced. Rahman, feeling generous, decided to
select six people instead of one. As all the contestants circled around him
and anxiously awaited to hear his selection, I was the only one sitting in
the back of the room on a couch, playing a game of solitaire on my phone.
That is until the second name he called was mine.

I could feel the look of shock on my face. Then a smile I couldn't get rid
of, no matter how calm and collected I wanted to appear.

A few days later I was to perform in New York City at the Nassau Coliseum
for 16,000 people. The moment I walked into that stadium, I was amazed. I
got to meet with A R Rahman, Hariharan [
Images ],
Sukhwinder Singh [
Images
],
Chitra, and many other musicians and entertainers I have been watching and
listening to for years. Watching all of the rehearsals, which Rahman
conducted, meeting everyone, and then finally performing, was a
life-changing experience. It was something I never could have anticipated. I
was on stage with an orchestra including some of the most talented musicians
in the world.

As the anxious crowd settled into their seats, I started to pray. I hoped I
wouldn't make a complete fool of myself and hoped I could impress Rahman and
the audience. The time came, my name was announced, and I was on autopilot
walking onto the stage. Rahman to my left on the keyboard, and in front of
me a sea of 16,000 people!

At that moment I made another prayer. That one day I would be on a stage
like this again, but the crowd would be there to see me, and to listen to my
songs. It was that very moment that changed a part of me. I felt something
like never before, and it was to be my destiny to reach my goal.

In 2008, once again another opportunity was presented to me. A dream of my
mother's, and a secret dream of mine, was to one day perform on the
television show, *Sa Re Ga Ma Pa*. I got wind that *Sa Re Ga Ma Pa* was
hosting a US challenge and auditions were to be held in six major cities
around the states.

Once again, I didn't want t

Re: [arr] Re: cry cry full song!!!! :D

[Bergin]

Is there a preorder and priority shipping? Coz I and AJ know how long it took 
Vtv CDs to reach us.

iTunes is a good option but nothing like having the original CD. :)

Waiting...

On Sep 8, 2010, at 6:26 PM, "AJ"  wrote:

> I am loooving this song like anything! It is sweet, soothing, 
> playful, jazzy, and beautifully dressed up in a symphonic gown with flutes, 
> bass guitar, acoustic guitar, bongos, ghungrus, and saxoophone. Incredible 
> instant appeal, esp. for those who like some jazzy flavors and I do love the 
> lyrics too. The interludes are extremely melodious and impactful and the 
> ending just melts in your ears! Both Shreya and Rashid did an excellent job! 
> 
> The arrangements are crisp and the sound production seems top notch with no 
> clutter. Yes, this song has breathing room, like the ARR of yore! 
> 
> I can't wait for the rest of the CD! Let it release sooon! I have a 
> feeling this album is going to be one of ARR's biggest commercial hits in 
> recent times. 
> 
> Please buy the CD guys once it releases! Support ARR!
> 
> --- In arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com, "vimaljk"  wrote:
> >
> > Terrific song!...what a 
> > year!VTV...Raavanan...Puli..EndhiranSemmozhi, CWG Theme.and now 
> > Jhootanot to mention 127 Hours!!
> > 
> > --- In arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com, "shamlan"  wrote:
> > >
> > > hey guys i just Listened 2 da full version on youtube...it rocks 
> > > replaying nonstop :D ... 
> > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=74AWTv6tR9w
> > >
> >
> 
> 

Re: [arr] Sukhwinder problem?

[Chris Raj]

Guys,
can anyone pls clarify the following points clearly.

1. why suki was not part of oscar  if any visa issue then why he was 
subsequently ignored by ARR in all stage performance(jaiho song)  post oscar...
2. post oscar only ARR sings JAIHO without suki and with only tanvi sha and 
other lady performars he could have invited suki also /
3. why sucki didnt get Grammy while others like vijay prakash and Tanvisha was 
part of Grammy , suki is contribution to JAIHO is
huge compared to Viajay prakas and Tanvi sha ?..  is there any intention on 
this issue? why he was not part of Grammy he didnt get any call from  grammy 
.???

4. why ARR didnt mention suki name in the OSCAR speech while he was mentioning 
all like MIA,blazee etc etc

5. why  suki is not part of JAIHO world tour as currently going on.. where in 
the song JAIHO would be perfomed at every concert
 does ARR wants to highlight only himself in the song?  show that he 
can 
be more popular as a pop singer in west??
  i belive ARR worked with suki in Ravan after this issue then what is 
stopping ARR to bring suki on stage for singing JAIHin anystage

am getting confused with these questions in my mind ... ARRis very humble 
and  down to earth person and why he did allow this kind of issues happening 
...this is not the question of integrity and this is the question of the 
getting 
recognanised at the stage like OSCAR ...this kind of oppertunity suki wont get 
again am sure that is why he is crying a lot and making this kind of statements 
especially when ARR failes to impress the people through CWG  anthem

Gops or some one kindly clarify ... I LOVE ARR for his work and as a very good 
human being as a role model to many .. this issue is raising lot of questions 
in 
my mind pls clarify


Regds
Raj









From: A.R.Rajib 
To: arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Thu, September 9, 2010 4:31:42 PM
Subject: Re: [arr] Sukhwinder problem?

  
Ha Ha ha !! Nice one :P I Never said anyone else mad here except Sukwinder  :P 
 I dont know the reason behind the statement u gave in this mail :P i just can 
laugh :P

Anyway ...let's get to the main point..At the time of the Oscars Sukwinder 
didnt 
left any stone unturned to show his anger on ARR ! He said "I will perform on 
Oscars stage oneday" ( Just because he sung an song in an Steven spielberg film 
) ...and said so many "Mad" things on couple of interviews !! 

and now he is claiming that he dont at all crave this things !! And like all 
other "Celeb" invited on this show he went on praising himself ( I watched 
almost every episode ) by saying that even Rahman was shocked that he isnt at 
all interested in Oscars !! But at the time of oscars he said ..ARR didnt took 
him..and later we get to know that he had a visa proband now we know he had 
an Show @ Kanpur ( Anyone attended that show from here ?..Anyone from Kanpur ?? 
) So , he possibly couldnt attend the Oscars ... Weird  isnt it ? :-) Let's get 
the fact right !!

If ARR intentionally didnt took sukwinder and he feel it that way why he aint 
saying so ? If asked he can also show us some evidence or something !! What is 
the need of saying two different things in two diff places ? He is just so mad 
about missing the chance of performing at the oscars !! Yes, Mad is the correct 
word here in MY view !!

:-)


On Thu, Sep 9, 2010 at 3:29 PM, V S Rawat  wrote:

If someone is finding everyone mad, one possibility is that everybody
>is not mad and this person should get himself checked up whether he
>himself might be.
>
>It is sickening to the soul to see that we are uttering such biased
>statement undermining everybody. Anyone who speaks good of ARR
>instantly become intelligent, caring, creative, considerate and what
>not, and anyone uttering any word that doesn't go well with ARR's
>repute in our mind, that person instantly become loser, mad,
>opportunist, politician, envious, publicity monger and what not.
>
>This list has seen many ups and lows in 11 years, but this phase seems
>to be the lowest ever when we fans are acting like narcissus not able
>to see and appreciate anyone's view point. I hope better sense will
>prevail soon.
>
>I condemn anyone calling anyone mad. If we can't respect one artist
>and one human, it is quite likely that we don't at all know what
>respect is, and our claims of respecting someone else have to be fake.
>
>--
>Rawat
>
>
>On 9/9/2010 9:14 AM India Time, _A.R.Rajib_ wrote:
>
>> Thanks a ton for the link bro !!!
>>
>> *For the Jai Ho Song the Option given to the Fans was "The jai ho song
>> was sung by Sukwinder,even though it is popular as a A.R.Rahman's
>> SongHow does Sukwinder react on this matter ? "*
>> *
>> *
>> *The option was ...*
>> *
>> *
>> *A. After getting the Oscar A.R.Rahman dint give equal honor to the singer*
>> *B. The singer got enough honor as he deserves*
>> *C.There is grudge ,but he dont wanna say an

Re: [arr] Sukhwinder problem?

[Gomzy™]

If you have been a member of this group for long then you will realize
nobody will clarify such issues with anyone. Please continue loving arr and
his music.

On Thu, Sep 9, 2010 at 5:59 PM, Chris Raj  wrote:

>
>
> Guys,
> can anyone pls clarify the following points clearly.
>
> 1. why suki was not part of oscar  if any visa issue then why he was
> subsequently ignored by ARR in all stage performance(jaiho song)  post
> oscar...
> 2. post oscar only ARR sings JAIHO without suki and with only tanvi sha and
> other lady performars he could have invited suki also /
> 3. why sucki didnt get Grammy while others like vijay prakash and Tanvisha
> was part of Grammy , suki is contribution to JAIHO is
> huge compared to Viajay prakas and Tanvi sha ?..  is there any
> intention on this issue? why he was not part of Grammy he didnt get any call
> from  grammy .???
>
> 4. why ARR didnt mention suki name in the OSCAR speech while he was
> mentioning all like MIA,blazee etc etc
>
> 5. why  suki is not part of JAIHO world tour as currently going on.. where
> in the song JAIHO would be perfomed at every concert
>  does ARR wants to highlight only himself in the song?  show that
> he can be more popular as a pop singer in west??
>   i belive ARR worked with suki in Ravan after this issue then what is
> stopping ARR to bring suki on stage for singing JAIHin any
> stage
>
> am getting confused with these questions in my mind ... ARRis very
> humble and  down to earth person and why he did allow this kind of issues
> happening ...this is not the question of integrity and this is the question
> of the getting recognanised at the stage like OSCAR ...this kind of
> oppertunity suki wont get again am sure that is why he is crying a lot and
> making this kind of statements especially when ARR failes to impress the
> people through CWG  anthem
>
> Gops or some one kindly clarify ... I LOVE ARR for his work and as a very
> good human being as a role model to many .. this issue is raising lot of
> questions in my mind pls clarify
>
>
> Regds
> Raj
>
>
>
>
>
> --
> *From:* A.R.Rajib 
> *To:* arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com
> *Sent:* Thu, September 9, 2010 4:31:42 PM
> *Subject:* Re: [arr] Sukhwinder problem?
>
>
>
> Ha Ha ha !! Nice one :P I Never said anyone else mad here except Sukwinder
>  :P  I dont know the reason behind the statement u gave in this mail :P i
> just can laugh :P
>
> Anyway ...let's get to the main point..At the time of the Oscars Sukwinder
> didnt left any stone unturned to show his anger on ARR ! He said "I will
> perform on Oscars stage oneday" ( Just because he sung an song in an Steven
> spielberg film ) ...and said so many "Mad" things on couple of interviews
> !!
>
> and now he is claiming that he dont at all crave this things !! And like
> all other "Celeb" invited on this show he went on praising himself ( I
> watched almost every episode ) by saying that even Rahman was shocked that
> he isnt at all interested in Oscars !! But at the time of oscars he said
> ..ARR didnt took him..and later we get to know that he had a visa
> proband now we know he had an Show @ Kanpur ( Anyone attended that show
> from here ?..Anyone from Kanpur ?? ) So , he possibly couldnt attend the
> Oscars ... Weird  isnt it ? :-) Let's get the fact right !!
>
> If ARR intentionally didnt took sukwinder and he feel it that way why he
> aint saying so ? If asked he can also show us some evidence or something !!
> What is the need of saying two different things in two diff places ? He is
> just so mad about missing the chance of performing at the oscars !! Yes, Mad
> is the correct word here in MY view !!
>
> :-)
>
> On Thu, Sep 9, 2010 at 3:29 PM, V S Rawat  wrote:
>
>> If someone is finding everyone mad, one possibility is that everybody
>> is not mad and this person should get himself checked up whether he
>> himself might be.
>>
>> It is sickening to the soul to see that we are uttering such biased
>> statement undermining everybody. Anyone who speaks good of ARR
>> instantly become intelligent, caring, creative, considerate and what
>> not, and anyone uttering any word that doesn't go well with ARR's
>> repute in our mind, that person instantly become loser, mad,
>> opportunist, politician, envious, publicity monger and what not.
>>
>> This list has seen many ups and lows in 11 years, but this phase seems
>> to be the lowest ever when we fans are acting like narcissus not able
>> to see and appreciate anyone's view point. I hope better sense will
>> prevail soon.
>>
>> I condemn anyone calling anyone mad. If we can't respect one artist
>> and one human, it is quite likely that we don't at all know what
>> respect is, and our claims of respecting someone else have to be fake.
>>
>> --
>> Rawat
>>
>> On 9/9/2010 9:14 AM India Time, _A.R.Rajib_ wrote:
>>
>> > Thanks a ton for the link bro !!!
>> >
>> > *For the Jai Ho Song the Option given to the Fans 

Re: [arr] CWG Theme video shooting starts...

[Bergin]

Is he still in India with concert on 11th?


On Sep 8, 2010, at 5:39 PM, Thulasi Ram  wrote:

> oh! y cant they wait 1 more month?
> 
> 
> On Wed, Sep 8, 2010 at 12:59 PM, A.R.Rajib  wrote:
>  
> 
> First day of shooting the CWG anthem video tomorrow. Directed by Shyam 
> Benegal. Produced by Bharat Bala Productions.15 minutes ago via Snaptu.com
> Reply
> 
> Sacredinsanity
> Vijayeta
> 
> 
> 
> 
> http://twitter.com/Sacredinsanity/status/2390656684
> 
> She is the stylist of ARR ...so expect ARR in a cool looks in the video :D
> 
> 
> -- 
> - Regards
> 
> ~ ~ A.R.Rajib ~ ~
> 
> 
> 

[arr] Re: cry cry full song!!!! :D

[AJ]

Bergin,

Haven't seen anything in the online market yet.  I usually buy Rahman CDs from 
Nehaflix, which usually has them available after release.  Sometimes Amazon has 
Rahman CDs for preorder.

--- In arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com, Bergin  wrote:
>
> Is there a preorder and priority shipping? Coz I and AJ know how long it took 
> Vtv CDs to reach us.
> 
> iTunes is a good option but nothing like having the original CD. :)
> 
> Waiting...
> 
> On Sep 8, 2010, at 6:26 PM, "AJ"  wrote:
> 
> > I am loooving this song like anything! It is sweet, soothing, 
> > playful, jazzy, and beautifully dressed up in a symphonic gown with flutes, 
> > bass guitar, acoustic guitar, bongos, ghungrus, and saxoophone. Incredible 
> > instant appeal, esp. for those who like some jazzy flavors and I do love 
> > the lyrics too. The interludes are extremely melodious and impactful and 
> > the ending just melts in your ears! Both Shreya and Rashid did an excellent 
> > job! 
> > 
> > The arrangements are crisp and the sound production seems top notch with no 
> > clutter. Yes, this song has breathing room, like the ARR of yore! 
> > 
> > I can't wait for the rest of the CD! Let it release sooon! I have a 
> > feeling this album is going to be one of ARR's biggest commercial hits in 
> > recent times. 
> > 
> > Please buy the CD guys once it releases! Support ARR!
> > 
> > --- In arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com, "vimaljk"  wrote:
> > >
> > > Terrific song!...what a 
> > > year!VTV...Raavanan...Puli..EndhiranSemmozhi, CWG Theme.and now 
> > > Jhootanot to mention 127 Hours!!
> > > 
> > > --- In arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com, "shamlan"  wrote:
> > > >
> > > > hey guys i just Listened 2 da full version on youtube...it rocks 
> > > > replaying nonstop :D ... 
> > > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=74AWTv6tR9w
> > > >
> > >
> > 
> >
>

Re: [arr] One more pointless blog article -

[AJ]

I really don't know where the "limited range" criticism comes from.  It's just 
ludicrous.  Rahman to me is the most versatile musician everyes, ever.  I 
didn't say he was the best ever, but most versatile.  

I agreethese crticisms are so outdated and in reality, dis-proven.  To me, 
this kind of article is just noise and not worth reacting to and not worth 
posting here.

--- In arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com, || V i s h w e s h ||  
wrote:
>
> Big Yawn!  Pls avoid posting these kinda of dud articles.. they are saying 
> pretty much same senseless things again n again.. so it's kinda getting 
> repetitive & very boring.. 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> " The search is more important than the destination "
> - a r rahman -
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> From: yeshrao81 
> To: arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com
> Sent: Thu, 9 September, 2010 3:07:34 PM
> Subject: [arr] One more pointless blog article -
> 
>   
> http://blogs.hindustantimes.com/capital-closeup/2010/09/08/rehmans-cwg-score-lacks-spunk/
> 
> 
> Accusations - Rahman's range is limited, Vande Mataram album by ARR was not 
> good, he has limited calibre, Rahman is worse singer in the country than most 
> blah blah blah...
> 
> He says "Rehman must realize his limitations and accordingly take up future 
> projects."
> 
> This guy does not even know its Rahman and not Rehman!!! Sick...
> 
> I dont know of any other composer in the world who has a range better than 
> ARRs. 
> He can compose almost all genres or music with equal brilliance.
> 
> Some people are really ignorant and dont let their ego die when it comes to 
> accepting AR Rahman's success!!!
> 
> I have always maintained that AR Rehman is a greatly overrated composer and 
> even 
> though he has won an Oscar for the Slumdog Millionaire score, his 
> compositions 
> are more or less similar or have a very limited range. In any case, he is not 
> in 
> the same class as some of great maestros of yesteryears whose melodies 
> continue 
> to rule even now. Rehman in his limited range has achieved excellence and has 
> thrived because there are not too many composers of his limited caliber who 
> are 
> also around. It would have been interesting to have observed Rehman had he 
> lived 
> and competed with the likes of Naushad, Shankar Jaikishen, SD Burman, Hemant 
> Kumar, Roshan, Madan Mohan, OP Nayyar, Sajjad, Khayyam, Ravi, Salil 
> Chaudhury, C 
> Ramchandra, Anil Biswas, Hansraj Behal, SN Tripathi and even Lakshmikant 
> Pyarelal, Kalyanji Anandji and RD Burman.
> It is no wonder that his theme song for the Commonwealth Games has not gone 
> down 
> too well with the people and he is being accused of giving a mediocre number 
> after charging Rs five crores for his troupe. CWG Chairman, Suresh Kalmadi 
> clarified that Rehman had not accepted any money for himself and the amount 
> was 
> meant for the total performance carried out by the musical troupe 
> accompanying 
> him. Even though Kalmadi has liked the song, most people I know have been 
> extremely critical of the whole composition. Their view is that the music is 
> not 
> catchy, it lacks Indian ness, it has poor lyrics and Rehman is perhaps a 
> worse 
> singer than most in this country. Without being rude, I share the view that 
> any 
> composition, which is meant for mass audiences and is going to be the theme 
> song 
> for an event like the Commonwealth Games must catch the imagination of all. 
> One 
> cannot certainly say that the composer's freedom to compose anything gives 
> him a 
> license to create a sub standard tune, which is for mass consumption. If 
> Rehman 
> and his troupe alone were to hear it, the justification of composer's freedom 
> would have been okay. But here it will be sung and played out before an 
> international audience of millions all around the world. If the song lacks 
> the 
> spunk and fails to generate enthusiasm, it is a failing of the composer. He 
> should have played it before an objective audience before pushing it as the 
> CWG 
> theme song.
> I do acknowledge that he has given good scores in many movies in his limited 
> range but he has failed to be convincing when he has gone in for mass 
> numbers. 
> Nearly a decade ago, he had done a new version of Vande Matram. But than one 
> could not help making comparisons with Hemant Kumar's evergreen Vande Matram 
> number for Anandmath, which was picturised on Geeta Bali and sung by Lata 
> Mangeshkar. Hemant Da's number scores in every sense of the word and till 
> date 
> no version of the national song has come any where near it.
> I do not know what the CWG organizers can do at this late stage but people 
> are 
> already unfairly comparing Shakira's livelier Waka Waka at this year's Soccer 
> World Cup to Rehman's composition. It is for Rehman to figure out how best he 
> can make amends. Otherwise the song could have generated enthusiasm to lift 
> up 
> the sagging spirits due to the pathetic preparations in the run up 

Re: [arr] Sukhwinder problem?

[kitcha_swamy]

Agreed. Lets not address anyone mad. But I guess addressing Suki as 
"Suckwinder" would be good enough :).

Swamy (aka Kitcha)

--- In arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com, V S Rawat  wrote:
>
> If someone is finding everyone mad, one possibility is that everybody 
> is not mad and this person should get himself checked up whether he 
> himself might be.
> 
> It is sickening to the soul to see that we are uttering such biased 
> statement undermining everybody. Anyone who speaks good of ARR 
> instantly become intelligent, caring, creative, considerate and what 
> not, and anyone uttering any word that doesn't go well with ARR's 
> repute in our mind, that person instantly become loser, mad, 
> opportunist, politician, envious, publicity monger and what not.
> 
> This list has seen many ups and lows in 11 years, but this phase seems 
> to be the lowest ever when we fans are acting like narcissus not able 
> to see and appreciate anyone's view point. I hope better sense will 
> prevail soon.
> 
> I condemn anyone calling anyone mad. If we can't respect one artist 
> and one human, it is quite likely that we don't at all know what 
> respect is, and our claims of respecting someone else have to be fake.
> 
> --
> Rawat
> 
> On 9/9/2010 9:14 AM India Time, _A.R.Rajib_ wrote:
> 
> > Thanks a ton for the link bro !!!
> >
> > *For the Jai Ho Song the Option given to the Fans was "The jai ho song
> > was sung by Sukwinder,even though it is popular as a A.R.Rahman's
> > SongHow does Sukwinder react on this matter ? "*
> > *
> > *
> > *The option was ...*
> > *
> > *
> > *A. After getting the Oscar A.R.Rahman dint give equal honor to the singer*
> > *B. The singer got enough honor as he deserves*
> > *C.There is grudge ,but he dont wanna say anything in public*
> >
> > I just hope i dont have to translate the hindi by Sukwinder ! The guy is
> > mad !! Dont know from where he got the 2nd time ..jai ho wasnt performed
> > on Grammys :s He needs to get his facts correct !!
> >
> > I dont know why this particular show only invited same kind of people
> > ...Kumar shanu , Bappi Lahiri , Pritam , Sukwinder , Abhijeet , Manna
> > dey ..U know what i mean !! All these people's character are kind of
> > similar :s
> >
> > people Watch the video ..hear it from the person's mouth itself !!
> >
> > On Tue, Sep 7, 2010 at 2:50 PM, Arijit Debnath  > > wrote:
> >
> >
> >
> > Rajib,
> > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7XfG2dulp8w&feature=related
> > 
> > Arijit
> >
> > On 7 September 2010 10:19, A.R.Rajib  > > wrote:
> >
> > Oh...i missed that Episode :-( Is there any re-telecast of this
> > ? Can record and upload the same :-) Watched Bappi lahiri,Kumar
> > shanu,Manna dey,Pritam and other episodes just to listen if they
> > comment anything about ARR !!
> >
> >
> > On Mon, Sep 6, 2010 at 9:56 PM, Arijit Debnath
> > mailto:arijit...@...>> wrote:
> >
> >
> >
> > because he is not aware how to apply for visa in proper time
> > and get it... further more he is bad mouthing ARRahman.
> > In a Bengali show "Ke Hobe Biggest Fan?" (who will be the
> > biggest fan?).. he conveyed something like below:
> > *He doesn't have any regrets for not being at
> > oscars...but his only regret is that at Oscars in background
> > his voice was playing but two ladies were doing lip
> > syncing. that's a shame.*
> > See how baseless allegation he put against Rahman.
> > Arijit
> >
> >
> > On 4 September 2010 13:43, Thulasi Ram  > > wrote:
> >
> > can anyone please summarize why sukhwinder was not part
> > of oscar and grammies, when gulzar, tanvi and vijay
> > prakash were part of it?
> >
> >
> > thanks.
> >
>

Re: [arr] Sukhwinder problem?

[Indmov Buff]

I think I am now on the verge of unsubscribing to this group. There is only 
that 
much negativity my system can take. The CWG theme song has just opened 
 Pandora's box with mail after mail and article after article full of just 
childish discussions such as the one below. I love AR's music and now beginning 
to think that sharing the love for his music here may no longer be the fun 
experience it used to be.  I am probably better off just listening 
and appreciating his music all by myself. If that's childish, so be it. 

And Raj , yes ARR is a selfish stage hogging arrogant artist who only looks out 
for himself and only himself.  
 ARR  wasn't the first music director in Indian history (EVER) to credit all 
the 
musicians involved in a soundtrack  in the form of a comprehensive credits list 
at the back of a CD. Even a person who hums in a song does not get his/her due 
credit by ARR. Instrumental artists are given a cold shoulder- no mention at 
all. And sound engineers. Who are they? If not for AR, the world of Indian 
music 
would be so advanced and artists would have got their due credit and respect 
without being ignored.  

It looks to me that the majority opinion ( from all the e-mails and articles in 
the Indian media that have come through after the CWG theme song), is that the 
Indian music industry would have been a far  better place if not for Rahman. 
And 
that in fact the commonwealth games was not a sporting event but a musical song 
contest. I am not Indian and for the first time I feel a sense of pride in 
that. 

 

: Chris Raj 
To: arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Thu, 9 September, 2010 13:29:50
Subject: Re: [arr] Sukhwinder problem?

  
Guys,
can anyone pls clarify the following points clearly.

1. why suki was not part of oscar  if any visa issue then why he was 
subsequently ignored by ARR in all stage performance(jaiho song)  post oscar...
2. post oscar only ARR sings JAIHO without suki and with only tanvi sha and 
other lady performars he could have invited suki also /
3. why sucki didnt get Grammy while others like vijay prakash and Tanvisha was 
part of Grammy , suki is contribution to JAIHO is
huge compared to Viajay prakas and Tanvi sha ?..  is there any intention on 
this issue? why he was not part of Grammy he didnt get any call from  grammy 
.???

4. why ARR didnt mention suki name in the OSCAR speech while he was mentioning 
all like MIA,blazee etc  etc

5. why  suki is not part of JAIHO world tour as currently going on.. where in 
the song JAIHO would be perfomed at every concert
 does ARR wants to highlight only himself in the song?  show that he 
can 
be more popular as a pop singer in west??
  i belive ARR worked with suki in Ravan after this issue then what is 
stopping ARR to bring suki on stage for singing JAIHin anystage

am getting confused with these questions in my mind ... ARRis very humble 
and  down to earth person and why he did allow this kind of issues happening 
...this is not the question of integrity and this is the question of the 
getting 
recognanised at the stage like OSCAR ...this kind of oppertunity suki wont get 
again am sure that is why he is crying a lot and making this kind of statements 
especially when ARR failes to impress the people  through CWG  anthem

Gops or some one kindly clarify ... I LOVE ARR for his work and as a very good 
human being as a role model to many .. this issue is raising lot of questions 
in 
my mind pls clarify


Regds
Raj









From: A.R.Rajib 
To: arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Thu, September 9, 2010 4:31:42 PM
Subject: Re: [arr] Sukhwinder problem?

  
Ha Ha ha !! Nice one :P I Never said anyone else mad here except Sukwinder  :P 
 I dont know the reason behind the statement u gave in this mail :P i just can 
laugh :P

Anyway ...let's get to the main point..At the time of the Oscars Sukwinder 
didnt 
left any stone unturned to show his anger on ARR ! He said "I will perform on 
Oscars stage oneday" ( Just because he sung an song in an Steven spielberg film 
) ...and said so many "Mad" things on couple of interviews !! 

and now he is claiming that he dont at all crave this things !! And like all 
other "Celeb" invited on this show he went on praising himself ( I watched 
almost every episode ) by saying that even Rahman was shocked that he isnt at 
all interested in Oscars !! But at the time of oscars he said ..ARR didnt took 
him..and later we get to know that he had a visa proband now we know he had 
an Show @ Kanpur ( Anyone attended that show from here ?..Anyone from Kanpur ?? 
) So , he possibly couldnt attend the Oscars ... Weird  isnt it ? :-) Let's get 
the fact right !!

If ARR intentionally didnt took sukwinder and he feel it that way why he aint 
saying so ? If asked he can also show us some evidence or something !! What is 
the need of saying two different things in two diff places ? He is just so ma

[arr] Would love to hear your thoughts......

[AJ]

Someone from another ARR site wrote this comment which has validated some of my 
thoughts about ARR's music recently:

"What I've noticed from JTYJN and the Cry Cry track is that the Tyrewala-ARR 
songs aren't buried under an avalanche of sound. There's an airiness and 
simplicity to them that makes them very pleasant to listen to."

Would love to hear some discussion about this.  Is it constructive criticism to 
say that some of ARR's songs today are often too cluttered and under an 
"avalanche" of sound?  I posted something about this a little while back about 
how ARR"s songs of yesterday had more "space" and more "breathing room".  Do 
these factors help to make an ARR album more appealing in general?

Please don't get into an ARR yesterday vs. ARR today war.  I just want to bring 
up some points about ARR's music today that we can discuss in e healthy and 
constructive way, and maybe, ARR can catch some wind of this.  

Re: [arr] Sukhwinder problem?

[AJ]

Indmov,

I understand your feelings.  I too am tired of all this negativity over the CWG 
song.  I urge members to please stop posting nonsense articles that do not 
contribute any constructive value to this group, but only fuel angry sentiments.

Please stay here.  I really value your posts and insights.  You contribute so 
much to this group.  I for one know ARR and his music from my heartI don't 
need to explain it.  If there are any doubters out there, it's only because of 
their issues, not ARR's.

I think Raj was just trying to clarify some issues related to Sukhwinder Singh 
and not implying that ARR is selfish, at least that's how I interpreted his 
post.

I really value your membership here and please don't leave on account of some 
noise recently.  I know what you're feeling, however.

--- In arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com, Indmov Buff  wrote:
>
> I think I am now on the verge of unsubscribing to this group. There is only 
> that 
> much negativity my system can take. The CWG theme song has just opened 
>  Pandora's box with mail after mail and article after article full of just 
> childish discussions such as the one below. I love AR's music and now 
> beginning 
> to think that sharing the love for his music here may no longer be the fun 
> experience it used to be.  I am probably better off just listening 
> and appreciating his music all by myself. If that's childish, so be it. 
> 
> And Raj , yes ARR is a selfish stage hogging arrogant artist who only looks 
> out 
> for himself and only himself.  
>  ARR  wasn't the first music director in Indian history (EVER) to credit all 
> the 
> musicians involved in a soundtrack  in the form of a comprehensive credits 
> list 
> at the back of a CD. Even a person who hums in a song does not get his/her 
> due 
> credit by ARR. Instrumental artists are given a cold shoulder- no mention at 
> all. And sound engineers. Who are they? If not for AR, the world of Indian 
> music 
> would be so advanced and artists would have got their due credit and respect 
> without being ignored.  
> 
> It looks to me that the majority opinion ( from all the e-mails and articles 
> in 
> the Indian media that have come through after the CWG theme song), is that 
> the 
> Indian music industry would have been a far  better place if not for Rahman. 
> And 
> that in fact the commonwealth games was not a sporting event but a musical 
> song 
> contest. I am not Indian and for the first time I feel a sense of pride in 
> that. 
> 
>  
> 
> : Chris Raj 
> To: arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com
> Sent: Thu, 9 September, 2010 13:29:50
> Subject: Re: [arr] Sukhwinder problem?
> 
>   
> Guys,
> can anyone pls clarify the following points clearly.
> 
> 1. why suki was not part of oscar  if any visa issue then why he was 
> subsequently ignored by ARR in all stage performance(jaiho song)  post 
> oscar...
> 2. post oscar only ARR sings JAIHO without suki and with only tanvi sha and 
> other lady performars he could have invited suki also /
> 3. why sucki didnt get Grammy while others like vijay prakash and Tanvisha 
> was 
> part of Grammy , suki is contribution to JAIHO is
> huge compared to Viajay prakas and Tanvi sha ?..  is there any intention 
> on 
> this issue? why he was not part of Grammy he didnt get any call from  grammy 
> .???
> 
> 4. why ARR didnt mention suki name in the OSCAR speech while he was 
> mentioning 
> all like MIA,blazee etc  etc
> 
> 5. why  suki is not part of JAIHO world tour as currently going on.. where in 
> the song JAIHO would be perfomed at every concert
>  does ARR wants to highlight only himself in the song?  show that he 
> can 
> be more popular as a pop singer in west??
>   i belive ARR worked with suki in Ravan after this issue then what is 
> stopping ARR to bring suki on stage for singing JAIHin any
> stage
> 
> am getting confused with these questions in my mind ... ARRis very humble 
> and  down to earth person and why he did allow this kind of issues happening 
> ...this is not the question of integrity and this is the question of the 
> getting 
> recognanised at the stage like OSCAR ...this kind of oppertunity suki wont 
> get 
> again am sure that is why he is crying a lot and making this kind of 
> statements 
> especially when ARR failes to impress the people  through CWG  anthem
> 
> Gops or some one kindly clarify ... I LOVE ARR for his work and as a very 
> good 
> human being as a role model to many .. this issue is raising lot of questions 
> in 
> my mind pls clarify
> 
> 
> Regds
> Raj
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> From: A.R.Rajib 
> To: arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com
> Sent: Thu, September 9, 2010 4:31:42 PM
> Subject: Re: [arr] Sukhwinder problem?
> 
>   
> Ha Ha ha !! Nice one :P I Never said anyone else mad here except Sukwinder  
> :P 
>  I dont know the reason behind the statement u gave in this mail :P i just 
> can 
> laugh :P
> 
> Any

[arr] Re: Would love to hear your thoughts......

[Balaji]

Interesting observation. I was speaking to a friend the other day who said a 
lot of ARR's songs these days were too "complex" for him. The simplicity of the 
old songs possibly was one reason for their lasting popularity (songs that 
immediately come to my mind are Mustafa Mustafa, Urvasi Urvasi, Chinna chinna 
aasai etc). Even such a gargantuan hit like Mukkala Muqabla had a lot of 
"openness" to it. In fact, coming to think of it, how many songs these days 
(not just ARR but the music in general) can one really categorise as simple, 
hummable songs?



--- In arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com, "AJ"  wrote:
>
> Someone from another ARR site wrote this comment which has validated some of 
> my thoughts about ARR's music recently:
> 
> "What I've noticed from JTYJN and the Cry Cry track is that the Tyrewala-ARR 
> songs aren't buried under an avalanche of sound. There's an airiness and 
> simplicity to them that makes them very pleasant to listen to."
> 
> Would love to hear some discussion about this.  Is it constructive criticism 
> to say that some of ARR's songs today are often too cluttered and under an 
> "avalanche" of sound?  I posted something about this a little while back 
> about how ARR"s songs of yesterday had more "space" and more "breathing 
> room".  Do these factors help to make an ARR album more appealing in general?
> 
> Please don't get into an ARR yesterday vs. ARR today war.  I just want to 
> bring up some points about ARR's music today that we can discuss in e healthy 
> and constructive way, and maybe, ARR can catch some wind of this.
>

[arr] Listen to sample of JHS's Maiya Yashoda!

[AJ]

Sounds great!

http://music.ovi.com/in/en/pc/Product/A-R-Rahman/Jhootha-Hi-Sahi/12582444

[arr] Re: Listen to sample of JHS's Maiya Yashoda!

[AJ]

Hold on...

This one may be more accessable...

http://soundcloud.com/arrfans/mayya-yashoda

--- In arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com, "AJ"  wrote:
>
> Sounds great!
> 
> http://music.ovi.com/in/en/pc/Product/A-R-Rahman/Jhootha-Hi-Sahi/12582444
>

Re: [arr] Sukhwinder problem?

[V S Rawat]

You are saying it again, even after being conveyed clearly that an ARR 
fan should not use such words for anyone.

Sukhi getting angry, or Sonu getting angry, or Udit Narayan getting 
angry - they still are contributors to ARR. They are in ARR's team. 
ARR will invite them to sing further songs. anger and happiness and 
various emotions keeps on coming between friends and family members. 
We don't call our father mad or our son mad when they are occasionally 
angry.

We should always remember that while we all mostly badmouth Himesh 
Reshammiya here, ARR still invited him to sing a song in Blue. That is 
ARR. That is his politeness. That's why ARR is respected.

You have no value for my prompting. I am sure ARR will be the first 
person who will disapprove of anyone calling anyone mad. I am also 
sure that ARR will be very sad that a forum running on his name is 
being used to called artists mad.

--
Rawat

On 9/9/2010 4:31 PM India Time, _A.R.Rajib_ wrote:

> Ha Ha ha !! Nice one :P I Never said anyone else mad here except
> Sukwinder  :P  I dont know the reason behind the statement u gave in
> this mail :P i just can laugh :P
>
> Anyway ...let's get to the main point..At the time of the Oscars
> Sukwinder didnt left any stone unturned to show his anger on ARR ! He
> said "I will perform on Oscars stage oneday" ( Just because he sung an
> song in an Steven spielberg film ) ...and said so many "Mad" things on
> couple of interviews !!
>
> and now he is claiming that he dont at all crave this things !! And like
> all other "Celeb" invited on this show he went on praising himself ( I
> watched almost every episode ) by saying that even Rahman was shocked
> that he isnt at all interested in Oscars !! But at the time of oscars he
> said ..ARR didnt took him..and later we get to know that he had a visa
> proband now we know he had an Show @ Kanpur ( Anyone attended that
> show from here ?..Anyone from Kanpur ?? ) So , he possibly couldnt
> attend the Oscars ... Weird  isnt it ? :-) Let's get the fact right !!
>
> If ARR intentionally didnt took sukwinder and he feel it that way why he
> aint saying so ? If asked he can also show us some evidence or something
> !! What is the need of saying two different things in two diff places ?
> He is just so mad about missing the chance of performing at the oscars
> !! Yes, Mad is the correct word here in MY view !!
>
> :-)
>
> On Thu, Sep 9, 2010 at 3:29 PM, V S Rawat  > wrote:
>
> If someone is finding everyone mad, one possibility is that everybody
> is not mad and this person should get himself checked up whether he
> himself might be.
>
> It is sickening to the soul to see that we are uttering such biased
> statement undermining everybody. Anyone who speaks good of ARR
> instantly become intelligent, caring, creative, considerate and what
> not, and anyone uttering any word that doesn't go well with ARR's
> repute in our mind, that person instantly become loser, mad,
> opportunist, politician, envious, publicity monger and what not.
>
> This list has seen many ups and lows in 11 years, but this phase seems
> to be the lowest ever when we fans are acting like narcissus not able
> to see and appreciate anyone's view point. I hope better sense will
> prevail soon.
>
> I condemn anyone calling anyone mad. If we can't respect one artist
> and one human, it is quite likely that we don't at all know what
> respect is, and our claims of respecting someone else have to be fake.
>
> --
> Rawat
>
> On 9/9/2010 9:14 AM India Time, _A.R.Rajib_ wrote:
>
>  > Thanks a ton for the link bro !!!
>  >
>  > *For the Jai Ho Song the Option given to the Fans was "The jai ho
> song
>  > was sung by Sukwinder,even though it is popular as a A.R.Rahman's
>  > SongHow does Sukwinder react on this matter ? "*
>  > *
>  > *
>  > *The option was ...*
>  > *
>  > *
>  > *A. After getting the Oscar A.R.Rahman dint give equal honor to
> the singer*
>  > *B. The singer got enough honor as he deserves*
>  > *C.There is grudge ,but he dont wanna say anything in public*
>  >
>  > I just hope i dont have to translate the hindi by Sukwinder ! The
> guy is
>  > mad !! Dont know from where he got the 2nd time ..jai ho wasnt
> performed
>  > on Grammys :s He needs to get his facts correct !!
>  >
>  > I dont know why this particular show only invited same kind of people
>  > ...Kumar shanu , Bappi Lahiri , Pritam , Sukwinder , Abhijeet , Manna
>  > dey ..U know what i mean !! All these people's character are kind of
>  > similar :s
>  >
>  > people Watch the video ..hear it from the person's mouth itself !!
>  >
>  > On Tue, Sep 7, 2010 at 2:50 PM, Arijit Debnath
> mailto:arijit...@gmail.com>
>  > >> wrote:
>  >
>   

Re: [arr] Sukhwinder problem?

[V S Rawat]

On 9/9/2010 5:59 PM India Time, _Chris Raj_ wrote:

> Guys,
> can anyone pls clarify the following points clearly.

disclaimer: I don't know truth about any of these. Just my personal 
logic and views are expressed.

>
> 1. why suki was not part of oscar

ARR was an invitee in oscar ceremony. I don't think ARR had any say 
whom oscar organizing committee calls and whom the committee doesn't 
call. I do think that when the committee even called the small kids of 
the movie to perform in the show, they should have called Sukhi also, 
but again, ARR can't have any role or say in sukhi being invited or 
not invited. Ask oscar committee why they didn't invite sukhi.

> if any visa issue then why he was
> subsequently ignored by ARR in all stage performance(jaiho song) post
> oscar...

This is personal speculation on ARR's psychology. I repeat i don't 
know whether it is true or not.

So, I guess that sukhi reacted badly on not getting invited to oscar 
and he somehow held ARR responsible.

Now, if someone blames you for no mistake of yours, it does affect 
your feelings and you do become uncomfortable with the person unduly 
blaming you. Same way, I think ARR became temporarily uncomfortable 
with ARR.

now that Sukhi probably has get over his temporary harsh feelings and 
is trying to approach ARR, I hope ARR, polite that he is, will forgive 
him and they will be friends working together again.

The TOI interview had very sensible and welcome words by sukhi towards 
ARR, somehow that interview and sukhi got bashed here.

read that interview here:
http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/entertainment/music/Rahmans-become-overconfident/articleshow/6484596.cms#ixzz0z30y8pBs

See, sukhi even says "I really want to sit with him (ARR) and have a 
lengthy chat, seedhe dil se!" What more we can want?

> 2. post oscar only ARR sings JAIHO without suki and with only tanvi sha
> and other lady performars he could have invited suki also /

ARR sang it where? In his tours? Again, I think ARR's tours were/ are 
also organized by some marketing/ organizing agency that is 
independent of ARR. So, it is them who decide whom to invite and whom 
not to invite. AFter all, that agency has to pay for all the invited 
persons who are performing in the show, even to ARR. So, ask that 
agency(ies) why they didn't invite sukhi.

For that matter, there should be about 100+ male and female singers 
who had sang ARR's various song in his albums. Did they all go with 
ARR in his tours and sang their songs on stage? I don't think so. Some 
might be there, some didn't go. Those who didn't go, their songs were 
rendered by someone else. That's what happens in each and every stage 
show. Then why single Sukhi only for not being there and his song 
being rendered by others on stage. Sukhi is busy guy and he must have 
high charges for appearing on stage. Tanvi Shah, vijay prakash are no 
way as busy as sukhi nor as popular so they had time and had less 
charges to go in the tour.

> 3. why sucki didnt get Grammy while others like vijay prakash and
> Tanvisha was part of Grammy , suki is contribution to JAIHO is
> huge compared to Viajay prakas and Tanvi sha ?.. is there any intention
> on this issue? why he was not part of Grammy he didnt get any call from
> grammy .???

Again, like oscar is given to only MD and lyrics writer and not to the 
singers (please correct me if I am wrong) Grammy must have there rules 
and tradition. I am sure ARR can't have any say in whom to give grammy 
and whom not to give. (if ARR has such a say, I wish ARR tells grammy 
organizers to give himself (ARR) a grammy every year. ha ha ha)

>
> 4. why ARR didnt mention suki name in the OSCAR speech while he was
> mentioning all like MIA,blazee etc etc

If so, then it is indeed sad.

Could someone please quote ARR's oscar speech here verbatim.

>
> 5. why suki is not part of JAIHO world tour as currently going on..
> where in the song JAIHO would be perfomed at every concert
> does ARR wants to highlight only himself in the song? show that he
> can be more popular as a pop singer in west??

yaar, you are repeating same question many times. I have speculated 
above about this.

> i belive ARR worked with suki in Ravan after this issue then what is
> stopping ARR to bring suki on stage for singing JAIHin any stage

OK. can someone please find out and post what money sukhi charges for 
appearing in a stage show? that might hold the answer.

>
> am getting confused with these questions in my mind ... ARR is very
> humble and down to earth person and why he did allow this kind of issues
> happening ...

Why doesn't ARR remove poverty of the world? why doesn't he brings 
100% literacy in the world, why doesn't he make all 6.5 billion people 
healthy and happy? Why doesn't ARR reduce prices of petrol to 1 rs a 
liter? Why doesn't ARR kill Satan so that Satan can't tempt any human 
to wrongdoing?

Arey yaar, how can ARR do all these. He is a human being l

[arr] Rahman's gift to Ashaji

[Thulasi Ram]

In an industry where relationships hardly ever stand the test of time,
double Oscar-winning composer AR
Rahman
certainly
wants to be an exception.

The musician, who is being criticised nationally for his composition of the
Commonwealth Games track written by lyricist Mehboob, made a hush-hush trip
to Mumbai  just
for a day before boarding the flight to the US for the American leg of his
world tour. BT has learned that while in the city, Rahman shot for a reality
show but his main purpose was to meet one of his icons — Asha
Bhosle,
who turned 77 on Wednesday.

Rahman handpicked 77 roses for the legendary singer to celebrate her
birthday but unfortunately both of them could not match their timings and he
had to courier the bouquet of roses to Asha's residence on Peddar Road. One
of Rahman's closest aides said, "It is a mark of respect from Rahman's side
to Asha, a singer he has idolised for many years now. He somehow wanted to
make the day special for her. When he realised that he couldn't meet her,
Rahman made it a point that the roses reached Asha on her birthday. He also
took a confirmation that the roses had reached her residence from the
courier company before boarding the flight. Rahman wanted to keep the visit
secret as he did not want unnecessary media attention on him at a time when
he is being criticised by almost everyone."

Read more: Rahman's gift to Ashaji - The Times of
India

http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/entertainment/music/Rahmans-gift-to-Ashaji/articleshow/6524662.cms#ixzz0z3JVFgEd

[arr] Re: Beauty of bass guitar in Cry Cry

[Devan]

Heard the promo of maiyya yashoda too... Wow superb song... Bass tracks 
dominating in both the songs i heard... Think keith peters done a great job in 
this soundtrack



--- In arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com, Thulasi Ram  wrote:
>
> spot on. sheer beauty! amazing prelude to rashid ali's voice. shreya is
> pitch perfect as always.
>

Re: [arr] Re: Listen to sample of JHS's Maiya Yashoda!

[Gopal Anandan]

yeah!! for me - better than the Sob! Sob! number. The song and Chinmayi's vocal 
texture are refreshing...hope the entire song's as simple and melodic.

ciao / Gopal

--- On Thu, 9/9/10, AJ  wrote:

From: AJ 
Subject: [arr] Re: Listen to sample of JHS's Maiya Yashoda!
To: arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com
Date: Thursday, 9 September, 2010, 9:05 PM







 



  



  
  
  Hold on...



This one may be more accessable...



http://soundcloud.com/arrfans/mayya-yashoda



--- In arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com, "AJ"  wrote:

>

> Sounds great!

> 

> http://music.ovi.com/in/en/pc/Product/A-R-Rahman/Jhootha-Hi-Sahi/12582444

>






 





 



  

[arr] 2010 – A Promising Year for A.R. Rahman

[Thulasi Ram]

 2010 – A Promising Year for A.R. Rahman
http://www.cinefundas.com/2010/09/09/2010-–-a-promising-year-for-a-r-rahman
Published on Sep 9 2010

 Maybe,
the previous year was his time to get acclaimed as one of the World’s most
acclaimed musician. His grand success of Academy awards, Grammy, Golden
Globe, BAFTA and many more awards kept him high on spirits. And this year,
it’s been a real treat for his fans witnessing his heavy downpour of albums.

It all started with Gowtham Menon’s ‘Vinnaithaandi Varuvaaya’ and its Telugu
version ‘Ye Maaya Chesavo’. Both the versions topped the charts and ennobled
A.R. Rahman for his earnest attempts of taking Tamil music to the next
level. Especially the song ‘Hosanna’ still remains over the top. Apparently,
his next trilingual album – ‘Raavan’, ‘Raavanan’ and ‘Villain’ and these
albums grossed with record-breaking sales in Indian music market.

His direct Telugu album ‘Komaram Puli’ directed by SJ Suryah is already
making good business at audio markets. After a long sabbatical gap, A.R.
Rahman had composed music for a Telugu album and all the songs including
‘Power Star’, ‘Amma Thale’ have become the favorite numbers even amongst
non-Telugu speaking communities.

Doubtlessly, his recent release ‘Enthiran’ has gone higher over the global
charts breaking the records. It’s worth mentioning that ‘Enthiran’ is the
first Tamil album to have taken a position of No. 1 at World level. The
other versions in Hindi and Telugu titled as ‘Robot’ have already become the
chartbusters. The Hindi music channels have been continuously airing the
songs of ‘Robot’….

Apart from these albums, the academy award winner will score music for
Gowtham Menon’s Hind remake of ‘Vinnaithaandi Varuvaaya’, which will have
couple of additional tunes. He is now associated with 3 international
projects ‘Nair San’, ‘Desire’, ‘Paani’ and ‘Danny Boyles’ Hollywood movie
‘127 Hours’. Not to forget, his next Hindi album ‘Jhoota Hi Sahi’ is fast on
the way to audio tracks and his previous combination with Abbas Tyrewala in
‘Jaane Ya Tu Jaane Na’ was a tremendous success.

Possibly, ‘127 Hours’ should be yet another key for our Madras Mozart to win
yet another academy honor.