[arr] Re: Why did Ghai choose Western classical music as the backdrop?

2008-10-05 Thread caran
Coz Subhash Ghai is running short of ideas. And as a storyteller, he never
was original nor has he matured with time.
'Yuvraaj' is supposed to be a rip off of the hollywood classic 'Amadeus'
(based on western classical music) and Ghai is the last the one to bend the
genre and convert it to Indian classical. The same movie was adapted a year
ago in a lousy way by some filmmaker in the form of a disaster called 'Shaka
laka boom' with horrifying music.

But what's laudable about Ghai is his music sense. Even his last outing in
'Black  White' had great numbers by Sukhwinder.
So with Rahman re-uniting full fledgedly with Ghai in 'Yuvraaj' ('Kisna'
seemed like a compromise...with both of them struggling to sort time to work
together) fireworks are bound to happen!
Waiting for the album with fingers crossed..!




Why did Ghai choose Western classical music as the backdrop?
Posted by: Chord [EMAIL PROTECTED]   purevibz
Fri Oct 3, 2008 6:44 pm (PDT)
I get it that he wanted to make a movie about music. But, why
couldn't he have chosen Indian classical music? From photos and
promos, the whole music scene looks Western. Why not make a film with
sitar, tabla, sarangi, tanpura, flute, santoor, instead of piano,
violin, choirs? This is INDIA afterall. Oh well, director's freedom
can't be challenged, but choice of music culture is what I question.

I also feel that Ghai tries to be extra glossy and flashy in his
films, with recent films testifying to more style and less substance,
hence BO failures. Hence, the western classical backdrop is more in
line with his flashy, glossy film-making style. Having Indian
classical music as a core musical backdrop would be too traditional
and in his mind, boring. But, imagine the magic of Rahman's music if
he composed for a film based on Indian classical music. Traditional
Indian music is ARR's forte, not Western classical, even though he
excels in that too.


Re: [arr] Semi-Arr - Pyarelal on current composers and more ...

2007-12-25 Thread Caran
Yeah Amith, I remember the Chitrahaar Episode where he mentioned 
about 'Tezaab' song and the other from 'Gambler' (Choodi nahi mera 
dil hai, SDBurman). I was quite surprised and elated to hear the 
mention of 'Tezaab' song from Rahman coz its one of my favourite 
too...! LP's music has been quite interesting(discounting the lifts 
of course!)considering the changes thru 70's, 80's n 90's!

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Chandhran [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 I remember when AR had appeared in Chitrahaar 2 times, around 10-12 
years
 back, he had mentioned LP as his favorite MDs. He also quoted some 
of their
 songs as his favorites. He specially mentioned *Kehdo Ki Tum Meri 
Ho Warna,
 Jeena Nahin Mujhe Hain Marna *from *Tezaab (1988) *as his favorite 
song and
 it was shown in the program*.
 
 *I also remember reading Laxmikant's interview somewhere.. In 1995-
1996.. He
 said he was glad that someone like AR, even after reaching the sky 
hights,
 has respect for senior composers in the industry. Also he told that 
whenever
 AR used to come to Mumbai, he used to give them (LP) a call..*
 
 *Once in an interview, AR said he considers 'Ilaiyaraja' (from the 
South)
 and 'probably LP' (from the north) to be his Gurus!*
 
 *How can you forget this all guys! ;-)
 
 By the way, a trivia: Name out the SD Burman song which AR quoted 
as his
 another favorite in the same Chitrahar program!
 *
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 *On Dec 24, 2007 9:44 PM, Gomzy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
Vijay ! you cant be that ignorant either! They have been great 
composers
  , with movies
  like hum, saudagar, Tehzaab, maine pyar kiya to name a few. 
Ofocurse with
  their share of plagiarism too . :)
 
 
  On 12/25/07, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
  wrote:
  
 Who are they ??! :-)
  
    Reply Header 
   Subject: Re: [arr] Semi-Arr - Pyarelal on current composers and 
more ...
   Author: : Avinash :  [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
avinashdc21%40yahoo.com
   Date: 24th December 2007 06:41
  
   Hi Vijay, He's one of the Laxmikanth-Pyarelal Duo. Mr. 
Laxmikanth is no
   more now.
  
   Regarding to his below statement, I think he lacks little open 
minded
   approach to today's MDs. I agree with his first sentence that 
major
   change in today's music is presentation style. But I don't 
agree with
   the second, the main mantra of todays MD's (SEL, VS, Rahman) is 
putting
   more emotions and creating mood in the music. That's what 
bringing them
   the success and emotional bonding with listeners.
  
   The 'sur' and the melody of Hindi film song is same as those 
of 60s and
  
   70s but the presentation style and the priorities have changed. 
Nowadays
   the emotional bonding of the song with the listener is 
temporary as
   music directors give more attention to rhythm and beat and lose 
control
   over its melody due to the lack of knowledge, says the 
director.
  
   . . . .
  
   Ha ha.. the below statement is really ridiculous :) Do you 
think the
   Grand music in Lagaan, Taal, WOHE, Bose and some of his best 
tamil films
  
   are prepared in small room.?! .. Naa.. that's just a 
hypothetical
   thinking, like most of skeptics did during early days of 
Rahman's music.
   But frankly saying Rahman is master in both ways. He did 
different
   things as well as things differently.
  
   A R Rehman prepares his music sitting in a small room whereas 
in our
   times live orchestra used to perform for the recording.
  
   Just my opinions...
  
   regards,
  
   Avinash
  
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   vijay.mohan.iyer@ wrote:
   
Whos he -:)
   
 Reply Header 
Subject: [arr] Semi-Arr - Pyarelal on current composers and 
more ...
Author: Anil Nair rhythmcalls@
Date: 24th December 2007 03:08
   
He doesn't seem to have a great opinion abt the current lot
 .. Rahman
included ..(not that it matters )
   
http://www.hindu.com/thehindu/holnus/009200712231523.htm
   
-A
   
  
  
   
 





[arr] Re:Another big Rahman release (JA).......your expectations?

2007-12-07 Thread caran
The music heard in the promos stands as a testimonial to what is to be
expected. I have been completely blown out by the music of trailor. So I am
sure this time Rahman is in his elements. With Ashutosh and a taut
historical in hand, JA should be a dynamite of an album with haunting
melodies bringing the mughal era live while you
listen. Simply cant wait for the release...Quite charged!

Regards
Caran


[arr] Concerts and Compositions

2007-09-07 Thread Caran
What do you think about ARR giving too many concerts in the recent 
past(the number has increased substantially in the current decade)?
Is it restricting his creativity in any sense? The fact remains that 
a lot of time is channelised for concerts in the form of rehearsals(a 
coupla months or more for a concert). Apart from the obvious 
advantages of performing live (monetary and reaching more people), 
would it be better if he dedicates more time composing music than 
merely recreating his own scores on stage?

Whats your say?



[arr] TWS and the Rahmania!

2007-02-13 Thread Caran
Well, it must have been a special high for The Wandering Souls on the 
Saturday night to kick start the most anticipated Rahmania concert. 
The crowd packed the hall in no time and then began the show. The 
`Muthu' instrumental introduction could have been more dramatic with 
high tempo, but it suddenly put brakes. Then the songs started a bit 
cold as the audience needed some acquaintance with the performers. 

All the excitement began with the rapping of `O humdum' and the 
unusual rock of `O yuva'. Soon, `Once more' was the order of the 
night. There was this moment of revelation when the Sufi medley was 
churned out and the listeners had a great time lauding the flow that 
effortlessly bonded the variety of Sufi compositions of Rahman.
The script of the show was interesting too, as many would have come 
to know many of the unknown facts about Rahman and his musical 
journey.
The lead singer Ashutosh was having a ball of time flaunting his 
vocal range to suit Rahman's spectra of compositions. His rap of `O 
humdum' or the Alaap of `Tere bina' or the line `Jaise barso mein koi 
ganga nahaye' from `Yun hi chal', sans his animated expressions, were 
simply knock out. `Shakalaka baby' was a delight. Thanks to the 
singer for crooning the song with such aplomb. That was mind blowing. 
Another mesmerizing piece came from the flautist, who did the `Bombay 
theme' with full gusto. I would also like to mention that the people 
on drums, tabla and the sound engineering department, did some great 
job to the extent that they even nullified any kind of shortcomings. 

Talking about the misses, one expected some tamil numbers from 
Rahmans body of work. Anyways, for their genuine efforts, `The 
Wandering Souls' takes a bow. 

Next time, I hope they break more rules (of course retaining the soul 
of music) to go a step further from flat reproduction. It would be a 
delight to see some personal `TWS' stamp on the brilliant 
compositions of the maestro. (The Sufi and Patriotic medley were 
close to it and were enjoyed best by the crowd!)

Keep rocking!

Caran~




[arr] Re: T Shirts : Photos ( comments invited )

2007-01-10 Thread Caran
Unable to see them. Can you please upload the photos in flickr and 
send the link?


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[arr] Alka sings for Ash in 'Jodha Akbar'

2006-11-16 Thread Caran
I'm too scared about what will come next. I want to do a raga-based 
album. As for film songs, I can't lose heart. I'm sure something 
like 'Umrao Jaan' will come again. I'm also singing for 'Jodha-Akbar' -
 again For Aishwarya, though I suspect this time the songs will be in 
the background. 

She thinks, and says: When you've someone like Aishwarya putting 
across your voice your singing gets an added lustre. Lataji's mind-
blowing songs got the right faces like Meena Kumari and Madhubala. It 
makes so much of a difference.

Read the full article here
http://www.glamsham.com/movies/interviews/alka_yagnik.asp

Regards
caran





[arr] Re: Rahman should stop scoring music for films ................

2006-03-26 Thread Caran
I hope you understand that the script of the movie comes first and 
then the music. Film music is unlike private music albums where the 
videos are made for the music to sell.
So it is upto the director to utilize the songs he has extracted from 
the music director in a cogent way to complement his story telling.
I dont think a video is necessary if a song can speak for itself. 
Most of the times rahmans music speaks for itself on its own and a 
good visual is simply icing on the cake.
Rahmans involvement in any project goes beyond music and I think 
he's  much more intelligent to pick up the movies and directors whom 
he can vibe with for some great output.




--- In arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com, hussain [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
wrote:

 well ...
 honestly when a genius like rahman sits and composes music , we all 
 are aware of the amount of effort and thought  he  puts into a song 
 and the end result  either the song is childishly picturised or 
 wasted as bgm ... 
 rahman  ur music is much more valuable and u musnt work with 
 directors who waste ur music. 
 let me give u guys some examples of rahman's best going in vain :
 
 1) lets take ketan mehta to start with ... all of us expected 
mangal 
 mangal to be one masterpiece in visuals ..all we get are three 
 turbaned goons singing on top of an elephant!! some one plz must 
 notice of this ...rahman..never in ur life will u ever work with 
 ketan again ..this is an order from a die hard fan
 
 2) rahman comes out with an outstanding score for 1947 earth ..and 
 what do we get ...just pieces of it as background samples ... 
 brilliant songs like yeh jo zindagi and raat ki dal dal..as well as 
 banno raani seem wasted ... fine songs slow down the pace of such 
 serious 'cinema' , but honestly i dont give a damn, make full use 
of 
 the songs or just leave them alone
 
  
 3) mani sir ..whos probably the best director to picturise 
songs 
 has also murdered some songs which were wasted as bgms 
 
  for eg; 1)vellai pookkal
 2)e ajnabi and thaiya thaiyya in dilse
 3)nenjamellam in aytha ezhuthu
 but mani sir ..we can forgive cos hes' probably done justice to his 
 music
 
 4)shyam benegal ..i can never pardon for what he did to desh ki 
 mitti and other songs 
 
 5) s j suryah who childishly picturises brilliant songs with more 
of 
 cleavage and lewd actions .
 
 6) rakesh mehra who wasted a gem in lukka chuppi ...everyone is 
 raving about rdb .. but i cried after seeing lukka chuppi being 
 wasted like this... look what he did to roobaruu.!!
 
 the only director i respect and admire is : ashutosh 
gowarikar ..who 
 dosnt mind picturising 7 minute songs!! but i can t forget what he 
 did to aahista again.!!
 
 tell me what u feel about this..
 long live arr
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[arr] Re: Swades BGMs

2006-03-14 Thread Caran
Thanks a lot for 'Swades'background score. Its like a whiff of fresh 
air every time when I listen to them. I had been longing to get this 
ever since I saw the movie in Dec04. My favourite piece is 'Geetas 
love theme' where Alka yagnik hums a mellifluous tune and it simply 
takes me to a different world altogether.
 I was simply awestruck with the BGM of Taal when I watched it few 
years ago. Please upload it if possible...Me kinda dying to hear them.
regards
caran


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 You can find the masterpiece here

   Username: arrfans
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   http://www.arrfans.com/downloads/arr/BGMs/Swades/Swades.zip
   
 
 N.Sriram Prabhakar [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
   Thanks a lot for your excellant work Prashanth and others. The 
BGMs
 from Rhythm and Saathiya literally had me in tears. Voiceless BGMs
 reach to your soul I would say. No words could adequately describe 
my
 feelings and my gratitude towards the people who've taken so much 
pain
 in Ripping and uploading these eternal pieces.
 
 However a small concern is that I could not download the Voiceless
 BGMs of Iruvar, KM, Swades etc., as the link had already expired due
 to inactivity. Could we possibly figure out a way to keep them up 
for
 a long time on the net to benefit the masses ?
 
 Ever Thankful,
 
 Sriram
 
 
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wrote:
 
  hi,
 here is the link for the tenali Voiceless BGM:
  
  http://d.turboupload.com/d/412610/Tenali_-_Voiceless.rar.html
  
  enjoy!!!
  
  bye
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[arr] Of holi and rahman

2006-03-14 Thread caran
Wishing all of you a very happy holi
I had a wonderful time listening to l 'Sham rang mein rang tu' from
'water' on the day of holi and I had vistas of colors in my mind.
Apart from this number I can recall the holi song from 'Mangal Pandey'.
Any other other holi songs from rahman.

By the way 'www.rahmania.net' is a great site with interesting
graphics...quite liked it!




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Re: [arr] National award

2006-03-11 Thread Caran
Count Udit Narayan for 'O Mitwa'(Lagaan)(also credited is his 'Jaane 
kyon from 'Dil chahta hai)
In the same year Sadhana did not win for 'O Palanhare' but for tamil 
song 'paattu cholli'(Azhagi)(non ARR)
 

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[arr] sophia..maalika..fauzia...ho..yashica..

2006-02-21 Thread caran
I am particularly fond of this line in the song 'ilamai'  from GF
which goes sophia..maalika..fauzia...ho..yashica...
Its quite catchy and I simply cant stop humming this in my mind..




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Re: [arr] [Non-ARR]Bandit Queen soundtrack ??

2006-02-08 Thread Caran
Since BIG B is overtaken by T-series, the sound track should be
avail through T-series...


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   I've the Bandit Queen cassette...bought it some 10 years back in 
1996. I don't know if its still available or not. It was quiet rare 
even at the time when it was realesed.

   Only thing I can tell u is it's music label... It's a company 
named BigB (Amitabh Bacchan Corporation Limited).

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   i am looking for Bandit Queen original sound track. The 
beutifully haunting (whatever i can remember of the soundtrack, had 
heard it when it was about to release in TV promos ) soundtrack was 
done by Nusrat Fateh Ali Khan. 

   Can anyone provide me pointers as to where can i buy it ( online 
or in Bangalore) if its still available or from where can i download 
it. 

   Thanks in advance. 

   Regards, 
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[arr] Re: reviewing Khalid Mohammad's review (SPOILERS!!)

2006-02-02 Thread Caran
That's what I call a brilliant analysis. Right said! Khalid Mohammed 
deserves this rebuke and I hope it reaches him through some means or 
the other. His mockery on genuine efforts is worth
the censure. Probably deriding others works has given him a name ( or 
bad name?) which is why his movie bashing, with tremendous lack of 
analysis, has come up to this extent.

I do not know if many feel same about Khalid Mohammed's reviews, but 
yes, I have always found his reviews biased. His ratings are born out 
of his whims (else which critic on earth would have given K3G a 5 
star rating).

Speaking about RDB, symbolism is the crux of the movie and kudos to 
Rakeysh for using it so skillfully. The climax is a wakeup call for 
today's youth, who hastily take up decisions, without prior thought 
or careful analysis of the consequences. The movie speaks volumes 
without going preachy at the face. Instead it deftly raises many 
issues faced by the youth and the aged, as we all co-exist under the 
aegis of the political system. Hence one cannot expect all the 
questions raised in the flick to be answered literally, frame by 
frame. If some characters in the movie are direct and honest 
( ..sharman), some are shrouded in mystery(..sidharth). So are the 
various situations and the viewer is given food for thought with each 
issue being raised. This is the inherent strength of the movie and 
the director needs to be lauded for his extraordinary effort. Those 
who still feel that the script was a blunder, please watch the movie 
again for it may make better sense this time.




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 This is my rebuke to Khalid Mohammad's review of RDB.
 Before anyone proceeds, I would request you to read
 that review first. And this contains major spoilers,
 so anyone who hasn't seen the movie, read no further!!
 
 First, let me start off by saying that Khalid Mohammad
 is my pet peeve. The die-hard Rahman fan is also a
 very biased Aamir Khan Movie reviewer. When Khalid
 used to review movies for Times of India I used to
 have a thumb rule that if ToI said a movie was bad, it
 was good and vice versa. It worked like a charm, with
 exceptions of course. So I was especially interested
 in reading his view of RDB. I didn't have to wait too
 long. He put across his view and I offer my take on
 his view.
 
 The thing that strikes you immediately is the flippant
 way in which the review starts. Usually Khalid
 reserves his mock statements and his lets try to
 rhyme and pun routine for movies that are doomed to
 get a 2 star rating. I personally can't stand flippant
 reviews, even for movies that I don't like. Reading a
 review that flows like this one does, for a movie I
 like, is really painful. But, lets move on to the
 first part of the review.
 
 Khalid starts off with It takes as much guts as
 madness to do a Rang De Basanti – an anti-Authority
 tract which assigns full marks to wayward youth, and a
 big round zero to wrinkly-crinkly ministers,
 politicians and armament wheeler dealers. I agree
 with this but the latter part of the statement is a
 generalisation. Sure, the ministers are given a zero,
 as is Anupam Kher, but the youth are definitely not
 given full marks. That is the whole idea of the movie.
 Besides Madhavan, none of the others are really given
 full marks. Everyone is presented with their flaws.
 And the ultimate fate of the group further underlines
 the flaw the youth has. I will get back to that in the
 end.
 He then continues with Welcome to India where
 everyone is looking for excuses to kill one another.
 Indeed. The first flippant remark we find. While the
 protagonists of the movie believe that nothing is
 worth fighting for or dying for in the country, they
 definitely aren't looking for a reason to kill anyone
 else. The very attitude they project is live and let
 live... or maybe live and let die, but the attitude
 definitely isn't kill them all, let God sort them
 out.
 
 That's writer-director Rakeysh Omprakash Mehra
 badland which is so fiercely feverish that you might
 need a thermometer to check your fluctuating
 temperature. I can't even begin to fathom what he is
 trying to say here. I won't even try to speculate. I
 will just add it to the flippant-remark-o-meter. At
 times you're elated by the Mehrathon, at times you're
 brain boggled. Since this is purely subjective, I
 will leave it at that. I am sure that many people
 would find the movie puzzling and/ or frustrating,
 while others will love it. 
 
 Aah, it's one of those: a quasi political diatribe
 which leaves you with conflicting feelings. The
 flippant-remark-o-meter continues to tick. Again,
 mixed feeling is purely subjective. I was overwhelmed
 by the movie and I mean that positively. It touched a
 cord somewhere. Just as Lagaan touched me as a pure
 entertainer, this one touched me, but it was something
 more than just an entertainer. Sure, a lot of
 nihilistic movies