Re: [arr] Chennai Jai Ho Concert - Hopeless - Analysed after a month

2009-11-09 Thread Madhu.Sudhan d
Hi everyone, i think many of us had the same opinion about the concert. i
had also posted one such letter in this group couple of days after the
concert. i have just two things say
1) A R Rahman should be care full to do concerts with business houses. the
point that it was the best possible advertisement marrg could have got can
not be refuted.
2) "In online to Rahman if you are listening "respect the audience".   I
strongly condemn these words i would like to request iucaa_hari  to look up
the earlier posts on chennai concerts, he should be finding the forward
mail from the GOD of music himself.

i agree with vithur you will regret it. i also did the same blaming
everything on A R R but few days later when i realized that A R R could not
really control too many things there. i felt very bad that i have found a
fault in A R R. i hope you take these words back.

i felt even it is A R R's fault then to i should not regret because last 18
years of my life if i have to celebrate his music would be with me, his
music has never made me feel lonely and all of us would have the same
experience...he is working day and night for us...to give us something
better each and every time..this would not be possible had he not respected
his audience. in the same concert  he did admit the mistakes in sound.





















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RE: [arr] Chennai Jai Ho Concert - Hopeless - Analysed after a month

2009-11-09 Thread S, Karthik
Very well put and probably this is what is also required from this group , time 
to time. I guess the sole intention of this fan is to see ARR related things do 
not let down the ARR name that has come to reckon with supreme quality.

VIjay and Gopal, please take this mail to ARR...I am surehe would be happy 
to see such contructive critisisms.


regards,
Karthik



From: arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com [arrahmanf...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of 
iucaa_hari [iucaa_h...@yahoo.co.uk]
Sent: Monday, November 09, 2009 1:37 AM
To: arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [arr] Chennai Jai Ho Concert - Hopeless - Analysed after a month



I paid 2000 Rs of my hard earned money to watch this show. I am huge AR Rahman 
fan and have seen two more of his live shows.
I am used to the substandard level of service that is offered in India. Any 
kind of service. We don't have proper facilities anywhere in this country to 
hold an event together for any number more than twenty thousand people. For 
example Internation Cricket matches played in India. Have you been to any? No 
stadium in India can boast of a descent parking facility for ten thousand 
cars(now if you have a stadium for 50K people you would need it right?). TO be 
able to park conviniently and to take it of and leave easily itself is not 
possible. Let alone expect reserved seating, hygienic and versatile top of the 
line snacks and toilet facilities. All this for the richest cricketing body in 
the world.

Now coming back to the AR Rahman show, the organisers are purely cashing in on 
AR Rahman's market to make money. Rapport Global thinks that if the Stage and 
the SOund is good(sound has always had a problem, since the my first show in 
2004) then they are world class. Its just a plug-in-plug-out stage and 
organiser needs to understand that stage alone does not determine if the show 
is "world class".

I have a few questions proping up in my mind.
(1) For a Brand like Rahman why do you need to coloborate with MARG to donate 
funds for AR Rahman foundation and Sakhti Foundation.
Even if Rahman had done the show directly for Shakthi, the money would have 
come. Was collaborating with MARG so essential, taking 50K odd people for a 12 
hour pacakage(total time to travel to-and-fro).

(2) People pay money for the event that is promised. Not to see MARG 
advertising it self to 50K tired people(remember we are told no water bottles 
allowed but later everybody seemed to have one and people like me who adhere to 
ruled were idiots). When the program was promised to start at 6:30 PM why dint 
they start atleast after the MARG PR excercise. From 7:00 to 7:25 people were 
sitting like idiots. Tired and Hungry.

(3) Extremely unproffessional not to have a Anchor for a show of this 
magnitude. Imagine 50 K people waiting and there is no show anchor, no 
introduction to songs, singers. Shocking.
Most of the Junta dint know that AR was singing Fiqrana or what. Please 
organise more professionally. Introduce singers and Pieces. Treat the audience 
with respect.

(4) The way back was another chaos with buses waiting in queque to leave the 
areana. The wait was for more than an hour. People sitting on the floor of the 
bus and what not. I reached home at 3 AM. Can't See a good reason why only MARG 
could do this.

(5) The barricades dont work!!! I paid for my ticket but I sat or rather stood 
with people who dont seem to have paid or many of the people with 300 hundred 
rupee tickets landed in this part of the arena. The screens were not clear at 
all.

That for the arrangments, to the music part. This sequence of songs has already 
been heard t the Times of India launch in Chennai Last year. The "Jaage hain" 
start and move to Khal Bali. Unless you have a fresher approach what was the 
need to do the same thing again. If Rahman wants to mix songs and does not want 
the language to be barrier that is great. ALthough many complained about 
Telugu(was it a dress rehearsal for the Hyd show?) and Hindi songs being played 
to a largely tamil audience, am ok as long as they take you thru the song by 
introducing it and taking people along. Certainly not the way it was done. Mr. 
Rahman has also moved away from the keyboards to being only a singer on the 
show. He dint seem as intersted as his earlier shows. But very kind and 
generouse himself. Did the backup singing for Maula when Javed ALi was singing 
and also wished everyone a safe journey back home.

I am just as big a AR Rahman fan as many of you. But dissapointed by the 
quality of the show. In online to Rahman if you are listening "respect the 
audience".

If gopal or any other Rahman Army people are listening to this. Try to change a 
few things.





Re: [arr] Chennai Jai Ho Concert - Hopeless - Analysed after a month

2009-11-09 Thread Yogesh Korde
ARR has always respected Audience.
There are many things which need to be addressed in concerts..yes I agree..but 
those
things are not under AR's control.He always gives his 100 %.
I appreciate you have brought some good points.


Regards
Yogesh
Pune




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Re: [arr] Chennai Jai Ho Concert - Hopeless - Analysed after a month

2009-11-09 Thread Gomzy™
one small correction . the crowd wasnt 50 K but 1.13 Lakh.

On Mon, Nov 9, 2009 at 1:37 AM, iucaa_hari  wrote:

>
>
> I paid 2000 Rs of my hard earned money to watch this show. I am huge AR
> Rahman fan and have seen two more of his live shows.
> I am used to the substandard level of service that is offered in India. Any
> kind of service. We don't have proper facilities anywhere in this country to
> hold an event together for any number more than twenty thousand people. For
> example Internation Cricket matches played in India. Have you been to any?
> No stadium in India can boast of a descent parking facility for ten thousand
> cars(now if you have a stadium for 50K people you would need it right?). TO
> be able to park conviniently and to take it of and leave easily itself is
> not possible. Let alone expect reserved seating, hygienic and versatile top
> of the line snacks and toilet facilities. All this for the richest
> cricketing body in the world.
>
> Now coming back to the AR Rahman show, the organisers are purely cashing in
> on AR Rahman's market to make money. Rapport Global thinks that if the Stage
> and the SOund is good(sound has always had a problem, since the my first
> show in 2004) then they are world class. Its just a plug-in-plug-out stage
> and organiser needs to understand that stage alone does not determine if the
> show is "world class".
>
> I have a few questions proping up in my mind.
> (1) For a Brand like Rahman why do you need to coloborate with MARG to
> donate funds for AR Rahman foundation and Sakhti Foundation.
> Even if Rahman had done the show directly for Shakthi, the money would have
> come. Was collaborating with MARG so essential, taking 50K odd people for a
> 12 hour pacakage(total time to travel to-and-fro).
>
> (2) People pay money for the event that is promised. Not to see MARG
> advertising it self to 50K tired people(remember we are told no water
> bottles allowed but later everybody seemed to have one and people like me
> who adhere to ruled were idiots). When the program was promised to start at
> 6:30 PM why dint they start atleast after the MARG PR excercise. From 7:00
> to 7:25 people were sitting like idiots. Tired and Hungry.
>
> (3) Extremely unproffessional not to have a Anchor for a show of this
> magnitude. Imagine 50 K people waiting and there is no show anchor, no
> introduction to songs, singers. Shocking.
> Most of the Junta dint know that AR was singing Fiqrana or what. Please
> organise more professionally. Introduce singers and Pieces. Treat the
> audience with respect.
>
> (4) The way back was another chaos with buses waiting in queque to leave
> the areana. The wait was for more than an hour. People sitting on the floor
> of the bus and what not. I reached home at 3 AM. Can't See a good reason why
> only MARG could do this.
>
> (5) The barricades dont work!!! I paid for my ticket but I sat or rather
> stood with people who dont seem to have paid or many of the people with 300
> hundred rupee tickets landed in this part of the arena. The screens were not
> clear at all.
>
> That for the arrangments, to the music part. This sequence of songs has
> already been heard t the Times of India launch in Chennai Last year. The
> "Jaage hain" start and move to Khal Bali. Unless you have a fresher approach
> what was the need to do the same thing again. If Rahman wants to mix songs
> and does not want the language to be barrier that is great. ALthough many
> complained about Telugu(was it a dress rehearsal for the Hyd show?) and
> Hindi songs being played to a largely tamil audience, am ok as long as they
> take you thru the song by introducing it and taking people along. Certainly
> not the way it was done. Mr. Rahman has also moved away from the keyboards
> to being only a singer on the show. He dint seem as intersted as his earlier
> shows. But very kind and generouse himself. Did the backup singing for Maula
> when Javed ALi was singing and also wished everyone a safe journey back
> home.
>
> I am just as big a AR Rahman fan as many of you. But dissapointed by the
> quality of the show. In online to Rahman if you are listening "respect the
> audience".
>
> If gopal or any other Rahman Army people are listening to this. Try to
> change a few things.
>
>  
>


Re: [arr] Chennai Jai Ho Concert - Hopeless - Analysed after a month

2009-11-09 Thread Vithur
Is this the first ARR concert that u are attending ?

Do you mean to say ARR doesnt respect the Audience  Thats a sin to say
like that. Pls refrain from using such words.. You may have to repent
later..

There is no artist like ARR.

(well, you may be right with certain other points...).

In my opinion, the CAR PARK was very fine.

On Mon, Nov 9, 2009 at 1:37 AM, iucaa_hari  wrote:

>
>
> I paid 2000 Rs of my hard earned money to watch this show. I am huge AR
> Rahman fan and have seen two more of his live shows.
> I am used to the substandard level of service that is offered in India. Any
> kind of service. We don't have proper facilities anywhere in this country to
> hold an event together for any number more than twenty thousand people. For
> example Internation Cricket matches played in India. Have you been to any?
> No stadium in India can boast of a descent parking facility for ten thousand
> cars(now if you have a stadium for 50K people you would need it right?). TO
> be able to park conviniently and to take it of and leave easily itself is
> not possible. Let alone expect reserved seating, hygienic and versatile top
> of the line snacks and toilet facilities. All this for the richest
> cricketing body in the world.
>
> Now coming back to the AR Rahman show, the organisers are purely cashing in
> on AR Rahman's market to make money. Rapport Global thinks that if the Stage
> and the SOund is good(sound has always had a problem, since the my first
> show in 2004) then they are world class. Its just a plug-in-plug-out stage
> and organiser needs to understand that stage alone does not determine if the
> show is "world class".
>
> I have a few questions proping up in my mind.
> (1) For a Brand like Rahman why do you need to coloborate with MARG to
> donate funds for AR Rahman foundation and Sakhti Foundation.
> Even if Rahman had done the show directly for Shakthi, the money would have
> come. Was collaborating with MARG so essential, taking 50K odd people for a
> 12 hour pacakage(total time to travel to-and-fro).
>
> (2) People pay money for the event that is promised. Not to see MARG
> advertising it self to 50K tired people(remember we are told no water
> bottles allowed but later everybody seemed to have one and people like me
> who adhere to ruled were idiots). When the program was promised to start at
> 6:30 PM why dint they start atleast after the MARG PR excercise. From 7:00
> to 7:25 people were sitting like idiots. Tired and Hungry.
>
> (3) Extremely unproffessional not to have a Anchor for a show of this
> magnitude. Imagine 50 K people waiting and there is no show anchor, no
> introduction to songs, singers. Shocking.
> Most of the Junta dint know that AR was singing Fiqrana or what. Please
> organise more professionally. Introduce singers and Pieces. Treat the
> audience with respect.
>
> (4) The way back was another chaos with buses waiting in queque to leave
> the areana. The wait was for more than an hour. People sitting on the floor
> of the bus and what not. I reached home at 3 AM. Can't See a good reason why
> only MARG could do this.
>
> (5) The barricades dont work!!! I paid for my ticket but I sat or rather
> stood with people who dont seem to have paid or many of the people with 300
> hundred rupee tickets landed in this part of the arena. The screens were not
> clear at all.
>
> That for the arrangments, to the music part. This sequence of songs has
> already been heard t the Times of India launch in Chennai Last year. The
> "Jaage hain" start and move to Khal Bali. Unless you have a fresher approach
> what was the need to do the same thing again. If Rahman wants to mix songs
> and does not want the language to be barrier that is great. ALthough many
> complained about Telugu(was it a dress rehearsal for the Hyd show?) and
> Hindi songs being played to a largely tamil audience, am ok as long as they
> take you thru the song by introducing it and taking people along. Certainly
> not the way it was done. Mr. Rahman has also moved away from the keyboards
> to being only a singer on the show. He dint seem as intersted as his earlier
> shows. But very kind and generouse himself. Did the backup singing for Maula
> when Javed ALi was singing and also wished everyone a safe journey back
> home.
>
> I am just as big a AR Rahman fan as many of you. But dissapointed by the
> quality of the show. In online to Rahman if you are listening "respect the
> audience".
>
> If gopal or any other Rahman Army people are listening to this. Try to
> change a few things.
>
>  
>



-- 
regards,
Vithur


[arr] Chennai Jai Ho Concert - Hopeless - Analysed after a month

2009-11-09 Thread iucaa_hari
I paid 2000 Rs of my hard earned money to watch this show. I am huge AR Rahman 
fan and have seen two more of his live shows. 
I am used to the substandard level of service that is offered in India. Any 
kind of service. We don't have proper facilities anywhere in this country to 
hold an event together for any number more than twenty thousand people. For 
example Internation Cricket matches played in India. Have you been to any? No 
stadium in India can boast of a descent parking facility for  ten thousand 
cars(now if you have a stadium for 50K people you would need it right?). TO be 
able to park conviniently and to take it of and leave easily itself is not 
possible. Let alone expect reserved seating, hygienic and versatile top of the 
line snacks and toilet facilities. All this for the richest cricketing body in 
the world. 

Now coming back to the AR Rahman show, the organisers are purely cashing in on 
AR Rahman's market to make money. Rapport Global thinks that if the Stage and 
the SOund is good(sound has always had a problem, since the my first show in 
2004) then they are world class. Its just a plug-in-plug-out stage and 
organiser needs to understand that stage alone does not determine if the show 
is "world class". 

I have a few questions proping up in my mind. 
(1) For a Brand like Rahman why do you need to coloborate with MARG to donate 
funds for AR Rahman foundation and Sakhti Foundation. 
Even if Rahman had done the show directly for Shakthi, the money would have 
come. Was collaborating with MARG so essential, taking 50K odd people for a 12 
hour pacakage(total time to travel to-and-fro). 

(2) People pay money for the event that is promised. Not to see MARG 
advertising it self to 50K tired people(remember we are told no water bottles 
allowed but later everybody seemed to have one and people like me who adhere to 
ruled were idiots). When the program was promised to start at 6:30 PM why dint 
they start atleast after the MARG PR excercise. From 7:00 to 7:25 people were 
sitting like idiots. Tired and Hungry. 

(3) Extremely unproffessional not to have a Anchor for a show of this 
magnitude. Imagine 50 K people waiting and there is no show anchor, no 
introduction to songs, singers. Shocking. 
Most of the Junta dint know that AR was singing Fiqrana or what. Please 
organise more professionally. Introduce singers and Pieces. Treat the audience 
with respect. 

(4) The way back was another chaos with buses waiting in queque to leave the 
areana. The wait was for more than an hour. People sitting on the floor of the 
bus and what not. I reached home at 3 AM. Can't See a good reason why only MARG 
could do this. 

(5) The barricades dont work!!!  I paid for my ticket but I sat or rather stood 
with people who dont seem to have paid or many of the people with 300 hundred 
rupee tickets landed in this part of the arena. The screens were not clear at 
all. 

That for the arrangments, to the music part. This sequence of songs has already 
been heard t the Times of India launch in Chennai Last year. The "Jaage hain" 
start and move to Khal Bali.  Unless you have a fresher approach what was the 
need to do the same thing again. If Rahman wants to mix songs and does not want 
the language to be barrier that is great. ALthough many complained about 
Telugu(was it a dress rehearsal for the Hyd show?) and Hindi songs being played 
to a largely tamil audience, am ok as long as they take you thru the song by 
introducing it and taking people along. Certainly not the way it was done. Mr. 
Rahman has also moved away from the keyboards to being only a singer on the 
show. He dint seem as intersted as his earlier shows. But very kind and 
generouse himself. Did the backup singing for Maula when Javed ALi was singing 
and also wished everyone a safe journey back home. 

I am just as big a AR Rahman fan as many of you. But dissapointed by the 
quality of the show. In online to Rahman if you are listening "respect the 
audience". 

If gopal or any other Rahman Army people are listening to this. Try to change a 
few things.