Re: [arr] Deja vu

2006-03-15 Thread Mirza Munas

Ashwin,

Anjaana Anjaani doesn't sound like the SpiderMan cartoon. As you are talking 
about the cartoon
that I grew up with. And another thing if it sounds similar even if it is ARR 
we do point out
fingers. As we are his Fans and his Critics.

By the way do you know the meaning of Deja Vu.. don't use it because its sounds 
cool.

Rgds,

Mirza.


--- Arijit Debnath [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 sorry to say I personally didn't found in Dus bahane/taal and
 spiderderman(cartoon)/anjana..so bit confused regarding what is
 inspiration/copy defined by you.
 
 Arijit
 
 
 On 14/03/06, Ashwin Kamath [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  A lot of messages have been posted about how other composers copying
  rehman's tunes. I would not be that harsh to say the other composers copied
  the tunes.
 
  Here is my take on this. I have a feeling that when you listen to a song
  for a long time it kind of imbibes itself inside you. Then it starts
  reflecting in your work.
 
  Take Dus Bahane...(rocking number no doubt) but listen carefully to the
  opening beats before the singer starts with 'here now;here now'.
  Now play taal se taal mila, listen to the humming after the initial water
  drop sounds. Voila we found a match.
 
  It would not be wise to say Vishal Shekhar copied these tunes. Its just
  that they are influenced by Rehman's songs so much that it starts showing up
  in their work.
  Hell if I started composing music tomorrow, it would be the same case.
 
  So most of the times if certain notes are similar to a song composed by
  someone else - it is merely a deja vu. The other song is influencing your
  song in an indirect way. I would consider such songs as a compliment to
  Rehman's song rather than take out my knife and rip apart the composers.
 
  With all due respect composing music is the most precious talent which
  only few people are gifted with. So lets not drag down other composers just
  to prove our point.
 
 
  On the flip side, we also have some composers who copy songs note by note.
  You cannot do much about them. Just stop buying their music.
 
  Here is some food for thought
  The tram sequence bgm from yuva which goes as anjaana anjaani sounds
  like the spiderman theme song. You know the one that used to play in the
  cartoons. Now I doubt if anyone will raise a finger against Rehman.
 
  So just chill guys and enjoy the great music from the maestro.
 
 
 
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[arr] Deja vu

2006-03-14 Thread Ashwin Kamath



A lot ofmessages have beenposted about how other composers "copying" rehman's tunes. I would not be that harsh to say the other composers copied the tunes. Here is my take on this.I have a feeling that when you listen to a song for a long time it kind of imbibes itself inside you. Then it starts reflecting in your work.Take Dus Bahane...(rocking number no doubt)but listen carefully to the openingbeats before the singer starts with 'here now;here now'.   Now play taal se taal mila, listen to the humming after the initial water drop sounds. Voila we found a match.It would not be wise to sayVishal Shekhar copied these tunes. Its just that they are influenced by Rehman's songs so muchthat it starts showing up in their work.   Hell if I started composing music tomorrow, it would be the same case.
 So most of the times if certainnotes are similar to a song composed by someone else - it is merely a deja vu. The other song is influencing your song in an indirect way. I would consider such songs as a compliment to Rehman's song rather than take out my knife and rip apart the composers. With all due respect composing music is the mostprecious talentwhich only few people are gifted with. So lets not drag down other composers just to prove our point.  On the flip side, we also have some composers who copy songs noteby note. You cannot do much about them. Just stop buying their music.Here is some food for thought  The tram sequence bgmfrom yuvawhichgoesas "anjaana anjaani" sounds like the spiderman theme song. You know the one that used to play in the cartoons. Now I doubt if anyone will raise a finger against
 Rehman.So just chill guys and enjoy the great music from the maestro.
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Re: [arr] Deja vu

2006-03-14 Thread Aakash Gandhi
Yes, well said.  There is a MAJOR difference between simple inspirations and 
blatant plagiarism.  Pritam, Nadeem-Shravan, Sanjeev-Darshan, Anu 
Malik...now these are the composers who shamelessly rip-off.  But I 
completely agree, when I compose tunes, and listen to them after a while.  
Sometimes I notice a slight resembelance with other songs that have seeped 
into my subconscience.  We must be able to decipher inspiration from 
plagiarism.

But Pritam is one guy who really confuses the hell out of me.  He has 
plagiarized multiple songs from EVERY single soundtrack of his.  The guy has 
talent, no doubt...but why does he feel forced to take songs from all over 
the world.  He's taking the dark road that N-S and Anu Malik have already 
shamelessly travelled.  Tsk Tsk Tsk (Check out 
http://www.planetbollywood.com/displayArticle.php?id=090905092530)

-Aakash-


From: AKil Suvarna [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Subject: Re: [arr] Deja vu
Date: Tue, 14 Mar 2006 16:32:13 -0800 (PST)


Aswhin

well written

Akil suvarna

--- Ashwin Kamath [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

  A lot of messages have been posted about how other
  composers copying rehman's tunes. I would not be
  that harsh to say the other composers copied the
  tunes.
 
Here is my take on this. I have a feeling that
  when you listen to a song for a long time it kind of
  imbibes itself inside you. Then it starts reflecting
  in your work.
 
Take Dus Bahane...(rocking number no doubt) but
  listen carefully to the opening beats before the
  singer starts with 'here now;here now'.
Now play taal se taal mila, listen to the humming
  after the initial water drop sounds. Voila we found
  a match.
 
It would not be wise to say Vishal Shekhar copied
  these tunes. Its just that they are influenced by
  Rehman's songs so much that it starts showing up in
  their work.
Hell if I started composing music tomorrow, it
  would be the same case.
 
So most of the times if certain notes are similar
  to a song composed by someone else - it is merely a
  deja vu. The other song is influencing your song in
  an indirect way. I would consider such songs as a
  compliment to Rehman's song rather than take out my
  knife and rip apart the composers.
 
With all due respect composing music is the most
  precious talent which only few people are gifted
  with. So lets not drag down other composers just to
  prove our point.
 
 
On the flip side, we also have some composers who
  copy songs note by note. You cannot do much about
  them. Just stop buying their music.
 
Here is some food for thought
The tram sequence bgm from yuva which goes as
  anjaana anjaani sounds like the spiderman theme
  song. You know the one that used to play in the
  cartoons. Now I doubt if anyone will raise a finger
  against Rehman.
 
So just chill guys and enjoy the great music from
  the maestro.
 
 
 
 
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Re: [arr] Deja vu

2006-03-14 Thread Arijit Debnath



sorry to say I personally didn't found in Dus bahane/taal and spiderderman(cartoon)/anjana..so bit confused regarding what is inspiration/copy defined by you.

Arijit
On 14/03/06, Ashwin Kamath [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

A lot ofmessages have beenposted about how other composers copying rehman's tunes. I would not be that harsh to say the other composers copied the tunes. 

Here is my take on this.I have a feeling that when you listen to a song for a long time it kind of imbibes itself inside you. Then it starts reflecting in your work.

Take Dus Bahane...(rocking number no doubt)but listen carefully to the openingbeats before the singer starts with 'here now;here now'. 
Now play taal se taal mila, listen to the humming after the initial water drop sounds. Voila we found a match.

It would not be wise to sayVishal Shekhar copied these tunes. Its just that they are influenced by Rehman's songs so muchthat it starts showing up in their work. 
Hell if I started composing music tomorrow, it would be the same case. 

So most of the times if certainnotes are similar to a song composed by someone else - it is merely a deja vu. The other song is influencing your song in an indirect way. I would consider such songs as a compliment to Rehman's song rather than take out my knife and rip apart the composers. 


With all due respect composing music is the mostprecious talentwhich only few people are gifted with. So lets not drag down other composers just to prove our point.


On the flip side, we also have some composers who copy songs noteby note. You cannot do much about them. Just stop buying their music.

Here is some food for thought
The tram sequence bgmfrom yuvawhichgoesas anjaana anjaani sounds like the spiderman theme song. You know the one that used to play in the cartoons. Now I doubt if anyone will raise a finger against Rehman.


So just chill guys and enjoy the great music from the maestro.




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