Re: [arr] Members should understand that they can't like all genres given by ARR
Taimur bro, With time, not just ARR's music or anybody's work changes, we also change. We grow, more things occupy our minds, we change importance of various things in our life. in 80s, I was so fed up with Bolly music that I didn't hear then current music (of 80s) and used to hear only old songs of 60s. Then, Anand Milind, Nadeem Shravan, jatin lalit, ARR brought me back to current music in 80s-90s. Now I like several songs of 80s also that I hated then. I am in terms with my personal tastes so I don't feel bad when I don't like any occasional ARR album or song, or I don't feel odd in liking any non-ARR song. you are an ARR fan for 20 years, I can feel for you how much you are torturing yourself when you don't like current songs of ARR. you have all the absolute rights to your likings. I don't like members telling wrong things about you. Nobody can force anybody to like or dislike a song or album. So, do keep posting your frank opinions whether you like an album/ song or whether you dislike it. We being a fan group doesn't mean for me that we are bound to like everything nor are we bound to praise everything. But we are indeed bound to keep sharing and keep expressing our honest opinions. I appreciate your courage that you kept on posting when so many people write unjustified things in response to your posts. Don't let that make you stop posting ever. You are here for ARR's love, we co-members are just incidental. -- Rawat On 8/15/2010 11:31 PM India Time, _Taimur Nadeem_ wrote: > hey Rawat, > My point has always been that all the 90s and early > 2000s whatever A R RAHMAN has done is been ultra brilliant , midas > touch is what he used to possess , films got hit on just his music. > whatever genre ,whatever instrument , whatever raga he used , > shined like a gold , the tunes were all heavenly , the essence of > songs goodness me . > > you pointed out urvashi urvashi , just see analyze that song , i > mean just look at the magic, could anyone thought that sarangi can > be used for a youthful song , the claps the jathis tabla , i mean > the whole song is master class , take ennavale O my GOD a divine > song , every second is sweeter than honey .does any song has such > sweetness or brilliance now , the answer is simply no . > > s > > > > --- On *Sun, 8/15/10, V S Rawat //* wrote: > > > From: V S Rawat Subject: [arr] Members should > understand that they can't like all genres given by ARR To: "arrf" > Date: Sunday, August 15, 2010, 4:24 > PM > > During 18 years of my following of ARR's works, I had started > liking ARR not with Roja, but with Urvasi of Humse Hai Muqabla, > even Gopala. > > But I got quite disappointed with Hindustani's Latka Jhatka, > Duniya Dilwalo Ki's Hello Doctor, Dil Hi Dil Me's Maria, etc. > Rangeela songs appeared so barren on first hearing, even chhaiya > chhaiya first seen on TV ad was appearing so comedily funny like a > bunch of monkeys jumping senselessly. > > They came in a short duration, so I generalized that ARR has > changed and I had lost faith on him. > > But, then I again started liking his other albums, and even liked > some of the songs in the above albums also. That was how I > discovered the "growing" effect of ARR songs. > > I still don't like some above mentioned songs but of course I now > am mad about chhayya chhayaa and rangeela (mangta hai kya, can u > believe?), I still don't like Roja much (not dislike but I have my > likings), I didn't like most of JTJTN, Ghajini, I have a lot of > misgivings about selection of type of music for JA that failed to > measure up to Mughal-e-Azam, that was ARR's worst lost > opportunity. Blue I have beaten endlessly. > > And I still like Ravan, D6, and many more. --- > > With this background, I have discovered that ARR gives many genres > of music and some genres I just don't like, can't like, whether it > is by ARR or by anyone else. > > So, I hope members should take some time to think it over about > themselves. > > 1. Please find out which genres of music you DO like. > > 2. Please find out which genres of music you DON'T like. > > 3. Now, think of ARR's songs that you DO like and find out whether > these are in the genre that you like that you listed in "1" above. > > 4. Also, think of ARR's songs that you DON'T like and find out > these are in the genre that you DON'T like that you listed in "2" > above. > > I am sure it will give you some insights why you like some ARR > songs/ albums, and why you don't like some other ARR songs/ > albums. > > I am also sure that it will give you some peace (not piece, ha ha > ha) of mind coming to terms with your liking and disliking ARR's > and others' songs/ albums. > > Don't torture urself condemning yourself when you don't like any > of ARR's song/ album. It is OK. it is the genre that you don't > like. > > -- Rawat
Re: [arr] Members should understand that they can't like all genres given by ARR
I assume this (well written) post by Rawat was directed towards certain people who dont understand this concept, unfortunately they still dont get the point.. instead of following the advice, they still keep repeating same thing, which has become annoying. --- In arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com, "AJ" wrote: > > My list is not exhaustive and I forgot to include some songs of RDB and > Water...which are some of ARR's career finest..but you get my point. > > --- In arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com, "AJ" wrote: > > > > I can think of lots of songs by ARR in the past 5 years...only my > > opinion > > > > Tere Bina > > Jaage > > Aye Hairathe Aashiqui > > Khwaja Mere Khwaja > > Jashne Bahaar > > Marudhani > > Zindagi > > Muskura > > Man Mohiney More > > Ishq Ada (Female) > > Hawa Sun Hawa > > Kabhi Aditi > > Kahin To > > Jaane Tu Mere Kya Tha (male and female) > > Kaise Mujhe > > Rehna Tu > > Dil Gira Dafatan > > Maula Mere Maula > > Bhoola Tujhe > > Aaromale > > Sajana > > VTV Title Song > > Hosanna > > Kaadhal Anukal > > Namakame > > Ja Re Ud Ja Re > > > > > > that have the same brilliance and sweetness as you described that ARR had > > in the 1990s. Taimur, you come from such a biased perspective and buddy, a > > lot of people won't agree with you. Your opinion is not the truth. If you > > like the ARR of the 90s better than todayfine...that's your takebut > > that doesn't mean ARR of the 90s is better than ARR of today as a fact > > Nostalgia plays a big part too. > > > > --- In arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com, Taimur Nadeem wrote: > > > > > > hey Rawat, > > > Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â My point has always been that all the 90s > > > and early 2000s whatever A R RAHMAN has done is been ultra brilliant , > > > midas touch is what he used to possess , films got hit on just his music. > > > whatever genre ,whatever instrument , whatever raga he used , shined like > > > a gold , the tunes were all heavenly , the essence of songs goodness me . > > > > > > you pointed out urvashi urvashi , just see analyze that song , i mean > > > just look at the magic, could anyone thought that sarangi can be used for > > > a youthful song , the claps the jathis tabla , i mean the whole song is > > > master class , take ennavale O my GOD a divine song , every second is > > > sweeter than honey .does any song has such sweetness or brilliance now , > > > the answer is simply no . > > > > > > s > > > > > > > > > > > > --- On Sun, 8/15/10, V S Rawat wrote: > > > > > > From: V S Rawat > > > Subject: [arr] Members should understand that they can't like all genres > > > given by ARR > > > To: "arrf" > > > Date: Sunday, August 15, 2010, 4:24 PM > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Â > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > During 18 years of my following of ARR's works, I had started > > > liking > > > > > > ARR not with Roja, but with Urvasi of Humse Hai Muqabla, even Gopala. > > > > > > > > > > > > But I got quite disappointed with Hindustani's Latka Jhatka, Duniya > > > > > > Dilwalo Ki's Hello Doctor, Dil Hi Dil Me's Maria, etc. Rangeela songs > > > > > > appeared so barren on first hearing, even chhaiya chhaiya first seen > > > > > > on TV ad was appearing so comedily funny like a bunch of monkeys > > > > > > jumping senselessly. > > > > > > > > > > > > They came in a short duration, so I generalized that ARR has changed > > > > > > and I had lost faith on him. > > > > > > > > > > > > But, then I again started liking his other albums, and even liked some > > > > > > of the songs in the above albums also. That was how I discovered the > > > > > > "growing" effect of ARR songs. > > > > > > > > > > > > I still don't like some above mentioned songs but of course I now am > > > > > > mad about chhayya chhayaa and rangeela (mangta hai
Re: [arr] Members should understand that they can't like all genres given by ARR
My list is not exhaustive and I forgot to include some songs of RDB and Water...which are some of ARR's career finest..but you get my point. --- In arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com, "AJ" wrote: > > I can think of lots of songs by ARR in the past 5 years...only my opinion > > Tere Bina > Jaage > Aye Hairathe Aashiqui > Khwaja Mere Khwaja > Jashne Bahaar > Marudhani > Zindagi > Muskura > Man Mohiney More > Ishq Ada (Female) > Hawa Sun Hawa > Kabhi Aditi > Kahin To > Jaane Tu Mere Kya Tha (male and female) > Kaise Mujhe > Rehna Tu > Dil Gira Dafatan > Maula Mere Maula > Bhoola Tujhe > Aaromale > Sajana > VTV Title Song > Hosanna > Kaadhal Anukal > Namakame > Ja Re Ud Ja Re > > > that have the same brilliance and sweetness as you described that ARR had in > the 1990s. Taimur, you come from such a biased perspective and buddy, a lot > of people won't agree with you. Your opinion is not the truth. If you like > the ARR of the 90s better than todayfine...that's your takebut that > doesn't mean ARR of the 90s is better than ARR of today as a fact > Nostalgia plays a big part too. > > --- In arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com, Taimur Nadeem wrote: > > > > hey Rawat, > > Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â My point has always been that all the 90s > > and early 2000s whatever A R RAHMAN has done is been ultra brilliant , > > midas touch is what he used to possess , films got hit on just his music. > > whatever genre ,whatever instrument , whatever raga he used , shined like a > > gold , the tunes were all heavenly , the essence of songs goodness me . > > > > you pointed out urvashi urvashi , just see analyze that song , i mean just > > look at the magic, could anyone thought that sarangi can be used for a > > youthful song , the claps the jathis tabla , i mean the whole song is > > master class , take ennavale O my GOD a divine song , every second is > > sweeter than honey .does any song has such sweetness or brilliance now , > > the answer is simply no . > > > > s > > > > > > > > --- On Sun, 8/15/10, V S Rawat wrote: > > > > From: V S Rawat > > Subject: [arr] Members should understand that they can't like all genres > > given by ARR > > To: "arrf" > > Date: Sunday, August 15, 2010, 4:24 PM > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Â > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > During 18 years of my following of ARR's works, I had started liking > > > > ARR not with Roja, but with Urvasi of Humse Hai Muqabla, even Gopala. > > > > > > > > But I got quite disappointed with Hindustani's Latka Jhatka, Duniya > > > > Dilwalo Ki's Hello Doctor, Dil Hi Dil Me's Maria, etc. Rangeela songs > > > > appeared so barren on first hearing, even chhaiya chhaiya first seen > > > > on TV ad was appearing so comedily funny like a bunch of monkeys > > > > jumping senselessly. > > > > > > > > They came in a short duration, so I generalized that ARR has changed > > > > and I had lost faith on him. > > > > > > > > But, then I again started liking his other albums, and even liked some > > > > of the songs in the above albums also. That was how I discovered the > > > > "growing" effect of ARR songs. > > > > > > > > I still don't like some above mentioned songs but of course I now am > > > > mad about chhayya chhayaa and rangeela (mangta hai kya, can u > > > > believe?), I still don't like Roja much (not dislike but I have my > > > > likings), I didn't like most of JTJTN, Ghajini, I have a lot of > > > > misgivings about selection of type of music for JA that failed to > > > > measure up to Mughal-e-Azam, that was ARR's worst lost opportunity. > > > > Blue I have beaten endlessly. > > > > > > > > And I still like Ravan, D6, and many more. > > > > --- > > > > > > > > With this background, I have discovered that ARR gives many genres of > > > > music and some genres I just don't like, can't like, whether it is by > > > > ARR or by anyone else. > > > > > > > > So, I hope members should take some time to think it over about > > > > themselves. > > > > &
Re: [arr] Members should understand that they can't like all genres given by ARR
I can think of lots of songs by ARR in the past 5 years...only my opinion Tere Bina Jaage Aye Hairathe Aashiqui Khwaja Mere Khwaja Jashne Bahaar Marudhani Zindagi Muskura Man Mohiney More Ishq Ada (Female) Hawa Sun Hawa Kabhi Aditi Kahin To Jaane Tu Mere Kya Tha (male and female) Kaise Mujhe Rehna Tu Dil Gira Dafatan Maula Mere Maula Bhoola Tujhe Aaromale Sajana VTV Title Song Hosanna Kaadhal Anukal Namakame Ja Re Ud Ja Re that have the same brilliance and sweetness as you described that ARR had in the 1990s. Taimur, you come from such a biased perspective and buddy, a lot of people won't agree with you. Your opinion is not the truth. If you like the ARR of the 90s better than todayfine...that's your takebut that doesn't mean ARR of the 90s is better than ARR of today as a fact Nostalgia plays a big part too. --- In arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com, Taimur Nadeem wrote: > > hey Rawat, > Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â My point has always been that all the 90s and > early 2000s whatever A R RAHMAN has done is been ultra brilliant , midas > touch is what he used to possess , films got hit on just his music. whatever > genre ,whatever instrument , whatever raga he used , shined like a gold , the > tunes were all heavenly , the essence of songs goodness me . > > you pointed out urvashi urvashi , just see analyze that song , i mean just > look at the magic, could anyone thought that sarangi can be used for a > youthful song , the claps the jathis tabla , i mean the whole song is master > class , take ennavale O my GOD a divine song , every second is sweeter than > honey .does any song has such sweetness or brilliance now , the answer is > simply no . > > s > > > > --- On Sun, 8/15/10, V S Rawat wrote: > > From: V S Rawat > Subject: [arr] Members should understand that they can't like all genres > given by ARR > To: "arrf" > Date: Sunday, August 15, 2010, 4:24 PM > > > > > > > > Â > > > > > > > > > > During 18 years of my following of ARR's works, I had started liking > > ARR not with Roja, but with Urvasi of Humse Hai Muqabla, even Gopala. > > > > But I got quite disappointed with Hindustani's Latka Jhatka, Duniya > > Dilwalo Ki's Hello Doctor, Dil Hi Dil Me's Maria, etc. Rangeela songs > > appeared so barren on first hearing, even chhaiya chhaiya first seen > > on TV ad was appearing so comedily funny like a bunch of monkeys > > jumping senselessly. > > > > They came in a short duration, so I generalized that ARR has changed > > and I had lost faith on him. > > > > But, then I again started liking his other albums, and even liked some > > of the songs in the above albums also. That was how I discovered the > > "growing" effect of ARR songs. > > > > I still don't like some above mentioned songs but of course I now am > > mad about chhayya chhayaa and rangeela (mangta hai kya, can u > > believe?), I still don't like Roja much (not dislike but I have my > > likings), I didn't like most of JTJTN, Ghajini, I have a lot of > > misgivings about selection of type of music for JA that failed to > > measure up to Mughal-e-Azam, that was ARR's worst lost opportunity. > > Blue I have beaten endlessly. > > > > And I still like Ravan, D6, and many more. > > --- > > > > With this background, I have discovered that ARR gives many genres of > > music and some genres I just don't like, can't like, whether it is by > > ARR or by anyone else. > > > > So, I hope members should take some time to think it over about > > themselves. > > > > 1. Please find out which genres of music you DO like. > > > > 2. Please find out which genres of music you DON'T like. > > > > 3. Now, think of ARR's songs that you DO like and find out whether > > these are in the genre that you like that you listed in "1" above. > > > > 4. Also, think of ARR's songs that you DON'T like and find out these > > are in the genre that you DON'T like that you listed in "2" above. > > > > I am sure it will give you some insights why you like some ARR songs/ > > albums, and why you don't like some other ARR songs/ albums. > > > > I am also sure that it will give you some peace (not piece, ha ha ha) > > of mind coming to terms with your liking and disliking ARR's and > > others' songs/ albums. > > > > Don't torture urself condemning yourself when you don't like any of > > ARR's song/ album. It is OK. it is the genre that you don't like. > > > > -- > > Rawat >
Re: [arr] Members should understand that they can't like all genres given by ARR
hey Rawat, My point has always been that all the 90s and early 2000s whatever A R RAHMAN has done is been ultra brilliant , midas touch is what he used to possess , films got hit on just his music. whatever genre ,whatever instrument , whatever raga he used , shined like a gold , the tunes were all heavenly , the essence of songs goodness me . you pointed out urvashi urvashi , just see analyze that song , i mean just look at the magic, could anyone thought that sarangi can be used for a youthful song , the claps the jathis tabla , i mean the whole song is master class , take ennavale O my GOD a divine song , every second is sweeter than honey .does any song has such sweetness or brilliance now , the answer is simply no . s --- On Sun, 8/15/10, V S Rawat wrote: From: V S Rawat Subject: [arr] Members should understand that they can't like all genres given by ARR To: "arrf" Date: Sunday, August 15, 2010, 4:24 PM During 18 years of my following of ARR's works, I had started liking ARR not with Roja, but with Urvasi of Humse Hai Muqabla, even Gopala. But I got quite disappointed with Hindustani's Latka Jhatka, Duniya Dilwalo Ki's Hello Doctor, Dil Hi Dil Me's Maria, etc. Rangeela songs appeared so barren on first hearing, even chhaiya chhaiya first seen on TV ad was appearing so comedily funny like a bunch of monkeys jumping senselessly. They came in a short duration, so I generalized that ARR has changed and I had lost faith on him. But, then I again started liking his other albums, and even liked some of the songs in the above albums also. That was how I discovered the "growing" effect of ARR songs. I still don't like some above mentioned songs but of course I now am mad about chhayya chhayaa and rangeela (mangta hai kya, can u believe?), I still don't like Roja much (not dislike but I have my likings), I didn't like most of JTJTN, Ghajini, I have a lot of misgivings about selection of type of music for JA that failed to measure up to Mughal-e-Azam, that was ARR's worst lost opportunity. Blue I have beaten endlessly. And I still like Ravan, D6, and many more. --- With this background, I have discovered that ARR gives many genres of music and some genres I just don't like, can't like, whether it is by ARR or by anyone else. So, I hope members should take some time to think it over about themselves. 1. Please find out which genres of music you DO like. 2. Please find out which genres of music you DON'T like. 3. Now, think of ARR's songs that you DO like and find out whether these are in the genre that you like that you listed in "1" above. 4. Also, think of ARR's songs that you DON'T like and find out these are in the genre that you DON'T like that you listed in "2" above. I am sure it will give you some insights why you like some ARR songs/ albums, and why you don't like some other ARR songs/ albums. I am also sure that it will give you some peace (not piece, ha ha ha) of mind coming to terms with your liking and disliking ARR's and others' songs/ albums. Don't torture urself condemning yourself when you don't like any of ARR's song/ album. It is OK. it is the genre that you don't like. -- Rawat
[arr] Members should understand that they can't like all genres given by ARR
During 18 years of my following of ARR's works, I had started liking ARR not with Roja, but with Urvasi of Humse Hai Muqabla, even Gopala. But I got quite disappointed with Hindustani's Latka Jhatka, Duniya Dilwalo Ki's Hello Doctor, Dil Hi Dil Me's Maria, etc. Rangeela songs appeared so barren on first hearing, even chhaiya chhaiya first seen on TV ad was appearing so comedily funny like a bunch of monkeys jumping senselessly. They came in a short duration, so I generalized that ARR has changed and I had lost faith on him. But, then I again started liking his other albums, and even liked some of the songs in the above albums also. That was how I discovered the "growing" effect of ARR songs. I still don't like some above mentioned songs but of course I now am mad about chhayya chhayaa and rangeela (mangta hai kya, can u believe?), I still don't like Roja much (not dislike but I have my likings), I didn't like most of JTJTN, Ghajini, I have a lot of misgivings about selection of type of music for JA that failed to measure up to Mughal-e-Azam, that was ARR's worst lost opportunity. Blue I have beaten endlessly. And I still like Ravan, D6, and many more. --- With this background, I have discovered that ARR gives many genres of music and some genres I just don't like, can't like, whether it is by ARR or by anyone else. So, I hope members should take some time to think it over about themselves. 1. Please find out which genres of music you DO like. 2. Please find out which genres of music you DON'T like. 3. Now, think of ARR's songs that you DO like and find out whether these are in the genre that you like that you listed in "1" above. 4. Also, think of ARR's songs that you DON'T like and find out these are in the genre that you DON'T like that you listed in "2" above. I am sure it will give you some insights why you like some ARR songs/ albums, and why you don't like some other ARR songs/ albums. I am also sure that it will give you some peace (not piece, ha ha ha) of mind coming to terms with your liking and disliking ARR's and others' songs/ albums. Don't torture urself condemning yourself when you don't like any of ARR's song/ album. It is OK. it is the genre that you don't like. -- Rawat
