Re: [arr] No more period films for ARR

2005-07-20 Thread V S Rawat
On 7/20/05 7:43 PM India Time, _Ravisdev_ wrote:

> Idiot Subhash Jha doesnt know probably that Jodha Akbar is also a 
> periodic movie and the BOSS is doing music for it.

Good catch Ravisdev.

Omission of this film does put a q.mark on the authenticity 
of the article.

> I dont agree ARR would never do periodic music. Bcos he very well 
> understand that those are the only wher he can show that he is totally 
> different from others. 

If, for a moment, you consider interview to be authentic, 
(by ARR) you would realize that he is not unhappy with his 
music. He agrees that he gave his best for period movies.

What he is saying that his music was not treated well by the 
directors of period movies. The songs were placed in the 
background, or were dropped altogether, or were partly used. 
Thus he feels that the audiences do not get to see the songs 
which would have improved the spread of his music.



I do not agree with ARR on this generalisation about period 
movies.

1. Dil Se was NOT a period movie, but it had ai ajanabi 
pushed to background and partly used, and it had thayya 
thayya dropped.

2. Swades was NOT a period movie, but it has aahistaa dropped.
--
on the other hand

3. Lagaan was a period movie, but it did full justice to 
each and every song.

4. Legend of Bhagat Singh was a period movie, but it also 
did full justice to each and every song.

Thus, I would consider 4 as enough examples to render this 
generalisation incorrect.

ARR should generalize on the basis of directors who spoil 
his songs, and who do not.

Then, he should go by hard statistics. Even if Manirathnam 
or Gowarikar spoil ARR's one or two songs, their intention 
should not be doubted, because they treat most of the songs 
pretty respectably.

Deepa Mehta had spoiled almost every song in 1947Earth. 
Let's wait for water.

Subhash Ghai has an excellent sense of music, but he is a 
spent force as a director/ visualizer, thus he is unable to 
properly handle ARR's songs, even is he wishes.

Shankar has always treated ARR's song in the best way, hence 
if Shankar makes a period movie, he can be expected to treat 
the songs well.

Shyam Benegal has totally spoiled ARR's music in Bose. He 
does not deserve to work with ARR in future. In any case, 
Bose was a stupidly made movie.

so on.

> I remeber ARR saying that the recent masla movies 
> doesnt give scope to his experiments.
> Dont know why reporters are liars these days

-- 
Rawat






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Re: [arr] No more period films for ARR

2005-07-20 Thread Ravisdev






Idiot Subhash Jha doesnt know probably that Jodha Akbar is also a
periodic movie and the BOSS is doing music for it. 
I dont agree ARR would never do periodic music. Bcos he very well
understand that those are the only wher he can show that he is totally
different from others. I remeber ARR saying that the recent masla
movies doesnt give scope to his experiments.
Dont know why reporters are liars these days

Guruprasad S wrote:
at last ARR understands that his classy music for period
movies may win
the critics hearts but will not take him anywhere when it comes to
audience... hope shekar kapur's movie will be his last period movie
  
  On 19/07/05, karthik.s <[EMAIL PROTECTED]
  > wrote:
  
Great..
 
Too much of
any thing is bad...I guess, ARR's experiment with period films have
reached a saturation point...
 
I had this
in mind for long but could not utter as I thought that the Man himself
will know much better that we all do.
 
Let ARR give
himself atleast 3 years from now to get away from period
filmsRemember he still has got to do an Album on Bharathiyar's
songs, Marudhanayakam (Don't jump on me...it will happen with ARR
also..in inner concious says), Mahabaratha Trilogy etc..
 
But for now,
it should be contemporary films..
 
Bye
Karthik


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Message-
  From: arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com
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Behalf Of Guruprasad S
  Sent: Tuesday, July 19, 2005 11:04 AM
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  Subject: Re: [arr] No more period films for ARR
  
  
this is all true but this doesnt sound like an ARR interview... never
seen Rahman talk this way!!
  
  On 19/07/05, Avin DCosta <
[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
  
Hi,
  Read this interview on todays "Mumbai Mirror", It seems like Rahman 
is finally speaking our fans mind..

http://www.mumbaimirror.com/mmpaper.asp?
sectid=10&articleid=71820052310574377182005231039578


No more period films for me now! 

Urges A R Rahman, currently unhappy with his treatment in Bollywood

Subhash K Jha

Not that A R Rahman sounds bitter. And not that he can afford to,
given his status of one of the leading Asian composers of his times. 
But Rahman is rather uncertain about his future in Hindi films.
Reason? "Too many period films in Hindi. Take the case of 1947:
Earth, Zubeida, Lagaan, The Legend Of Bhagat Singh, Water, Bose: The
Forgotten Hero, Kisna among the many. I've worked hard on each of 
these themes. But the end-result hasn't been worth it. The songs were
either pushed into the background or not used at all…or worse still,
used badly. I feel very frustrated by this. But what can I do?
Composing tunes is my job. How they are used isn't up to me." Rahman 
seems unhappy with the way Subhash Ghai used his track 'Hum hain iss
pal yahan' in Kisna. "Though it was a love ballad it wasn't sung by
the lead pair at all. It was placed in the background. That killed
the song's impact." But the worst experience was Bose: The Forgotten
Hero. "It's become Bose: The Forgotten Music," jokes Rehman. "I had
worked really hard on the music. But it all totaled to zero finally. 
But after Zubeida and Bose I'm doing another film with Shyam Benegal.
It's a full-on musical. But please, no more period films for the time
being." Having had his fill of blasts from the past, Rahman is now 
looking at a more contemporary kind of music. "All my Hindi
assignments at the moment including Rakesh Mehra's Rang De Basanti
and Abbas Tyrewala's romantic film are contemporary subjects. I'm
quite done with period films for now. I think Mangal Pandey would be 
last film of that ilk." Righfully proud of his compositions in the
just-released Mangal Pandey, Rahman reveals how he had been offered
three film about freedom fighters/warriors including Roland Joffe's
The Invaders. "But I finally chose Mangal Pandey. Yeah, the fact that
Aamir Khan was in it did influence my decision. Aamir and I really
gelled well during Lagaan. In fact I'm really proud of my work in
Lagaan and 1947-Earth which also starred Aamir." Going on to speak 
about the second part of Deepa Mehta's trilogy, the third part Water
is ready. It's the first project where Rahman has done the songs and
not the background music. "I moved away because of the controversies 
surrounding the film. What's the point of creating music for a
project that makes some people unhappy? But I saw Water recently. And
it took my breath away." Has there been anything in Hindi music that
Rahman has liked lately? "Yeah I like M M Kreem's music. His `Jadoo 
hai nasha hai' in Jism was a surprise. And I like a couple of
Pakistani songs w

Re: [arr] No more period films for ARR

2005-07-19 Thread V S Rawat
On 7/19/05 10:33 AM India Time, _Avin DCosta_ wrote:


Thanks a million Mr DCosta, for posting this wonderful 
interview.


> Subhash K Jha 
> 
> I've worked hard on each of 
> these themes. But the end-result hasn't been worth it. 

The ends results of music were good. The films were poor.
Hence ARR repute as a genius is still holding.

> The songs were 
> either pushed into the background or not used at all…or worse still, 
> used badly. I feel very frustrated by this. But what can I do? 

I also felt equally frustrated. I consider 1947 Earth to his
best ever album, but the film had butchered his songs as
never before and after.

> Composing tunes is my job. How they are used isn't up to me." Rahman 
> seems unhappy with the way Subhash Ghai used his track 'Hum hain iss 
> pal yahan' in Kisna. "Though it was a love ballad it wasn't sung by 
> the lead pair at all. It was placed in the background. That killed 
> the song's impact." 

Here I differ slightly. I think Subhash Ghai is a spent 
force. Even he had shot that song on the lead pair, he would 
not have been able to bring any magic in it.

It takes ones like Shankar to bring the magic out of songs. 
Recall the disheartened views of the fans at the time of 
release of nayak audio. So many were dis-satisfied with 
ruukhii suukhii roTii etc. but after seeing it, it appeared 
a lovely song.

Manirathnam flip-flops when it comes to picturisation of 
songs. Yuva songs were nothing special in picturization but, 
say, Dil Se songs were beautifully picturised. For that 
matter, ai ajanabii was pushed to background and thayyaa 
thayyaa was dropped from the film.

-- 
Rawat





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Re: [arr] No more period films for ARR

2005-07-19 Thread Jahanzeb Farooq
ya, you are right, Rahman does not talk like that, nor he admire 
himself, and also he does not criticise directors who they 
picturized his songs. I am very doubtful about this interview.


--- In arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com, Guruprasad S 
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> this is all true but this doesnt sound like an ARR interview... 
never seen 
> Rahman talk this way!!
> 
> On 19/07/05, Avin DCosta <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > 
> > 
> > Hi,
> > Read this interview on todays "Mumbai Mirror", It seems like 
Rahman
> > is finally speaking our fans mind..
> > 
> > http://www.mumbaimirror.com/mmpaper.asp?
> > sectid=10&articleid=71820052310574377182005231039578
> > 
> > No more period films for me now!
> > 
> > Urges A R Rahman, currently unhappy with his treatment in 
Bollywood
> > 
> > Subhash K Jha
> > 
> > Not that A R Rahman sounds bitter. And not that he can afford to,
> > given his status of one of the leading Asian composers of his 
times.
> > But Rahman is rather uncertain about his future in Hindi films.
> > Reason? "Too many period films in Hindi. Take the case of 1947:
> > Earth, Zubeida, Lagaan, The Legend Of Bhagat Singh, Water, Bose: 
The
> > Forgotten Hero, Kisna among the many. I've worked hard on each of
> > these themes. But the end-result hasn't been worth it. The songs 
were
> > either pushed into the background or not used at all…or worse 
still,
> > used badly. I feel very frustrated by this. But what can I do?
> > Composing tunes is my job. How they are used isn't up to me." 
Rahman
> > seems unhappy with the way Subhash Ghai used his track 'Hum hain 
iss
> > pal yahan' in Kisna. "Though it was a love ballad it wasn't sung 
by
> > the lead pair at all. It was placed in the background. That 
killed
> > the song's impact." But the worst experience was Bose: The 
Forgotten
> > Hero. "It's become Bose: The Forgotten Music," jokes Rehman. "I 
had
> > worked really hard on the music. But it all totaled to zero 
finally.
> > But after Zubeida and Bose I'm doing another film with Shyam 
Benegal.
> > It's a full-on musical. But please, no more period films for the 
time
> > being." Having had his fill of blasts from the past, Rahman is 
now
> > looking at a more contemporary kind of music. "All my Hindi
> > assignments at the moment including Rakesh Mehra's Rang De 
Basanti
> > and Abbas Tyrewala's romantic film are contemporary subjects. I'm
> > quite done with period films for now. I think Mangal Pandey 
would be
> > last film of that ilk." Righfully proud of his compositions in 
the
> > just-released Mangal Pandey, Rahman reveals how he had been 
offered
> > three film about freedom fighters/warriors including Roland 
Joffe's
> > The Invaders. "But I finally chose Mangal Pandey. Yeah, the fact 
that
> > Aamir Khan was in it did influence my decision. Aamir and I 
really
> > gelled well during Lagaan. In fact I'm really proud of my work in
> > Lagaan and 1947-Earth which also starred Aamir." Going on to 
speak
> > about the second part of Deepa Mehta's trilogy, the third part 
Water
> > is ready. It's the first project where Rahman has done the songs 
and
> > not the background music. "I moved away because of the 
controversies
> > surrounding the film. What's the point of creating music for a
> > project that makes some people unhappy? But I saw Water 
recently. And
> > it took my breath away." Has there been anything in Hindi music 
that
> > Rahman has liked lately? "Yeah I like M M Kreem's music. His 
`Jadoo
> > hai nasha hai' in Jism was a surprise. And I like a couple of
> > Pakistani songs which have been used in Hindi films like Murder
> > recently."
> > 
> > * What's the point of creating music for a project that makes 
some
> > people unhappy? But I saw Water recently. And it took my breath 
away
> > 
> > Rahman's problems with Bollywood:
> > * Gets offered for too many period films (Zubeida, Lagaan, The 
Legend
> > Of Bhagat Singh, Water, Bose: The Forgotten Hero, Kisna)
> > * Subhash Ghai under-played his love ballad 'Hum hain iss pal 
yahan'
> > in Kisna by not picturising it on the lead pair
> > * The producers did not adequately promote the soundtrack of 
Shyam
> > Benegal's Bose: The Forgotten Hero. "It's become Bose: The 
Forgotten
> > Music," Rahman jokes
> > 
> > Source: Mumbai Mirror
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > This August, Discover the Birth of Your Independence
> > and The Magic of A.R.Rahman's Music in
> > Mangal Pandey - The Rising
> > http://www.risingthefilm.com
> > http://www.mangalpandeythefilm.com
> > Music released: Jul 14, 2005 Movie releases: Aug 12, 2005
> > 
> > Explore, Experience, Enjoy A.R.Rahman - The Man, The Music, The 
Magic.
> > Only at arrahmanfans - The definitive A.R.Rahman e-community.
> > 
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Re: [arr] No more period films for ARR

2005-07-18 Thread joby cherian
If this is not his interview or not..that must be the way he
should plan his future now. period films are not bad but if the music
fails like this..then it has to be taken seriously and again hamaara
Rahmanji..at the end of the day, it will make you proud 'cause u are
the only one who has done so many period films. and pls don't go
back..must do this kind of films atleast 1 in 10 musicals you produce.
your name will be definitely there in history when bollywood films
will be counted once.Vandemataram-Rahman, Bose-Rahman,
Lagaan-Rahman, Swades-Rahman(non periodic..but still be remembered
once, as this happened to Satyajit Ray's Pather Panchali too!!) Bhagat
singh-Rahman, Water-Rahman, Iruvar-Rahman..a never ending
list..
Go-Ahead Rahmanji...You were, is and will be the BEST
forever..Inshallah.

BRgds
Joby.  

On 7/19/05, Guruprasad S <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> this is all true but this doesnt sound like an ARR interview... never seen
> Rahman talk this way!!
> 
> 
> On 19/07/05, Avin DCosta < [EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > 
> > 
> > Hi,
> >   Read this interview on todays "Mumbai Mirror", It seems like Rahman 
> > is finally speaking our fans mind..
> > 
> > http://www.mumbaimirror.com/mmpaper.asp?
> > sectid=10&articleid=71820052310574377182005231039578
> > 
> > No more period films for me now! 
> > 
> > Urges A R Rahman, currently unhappy with his treatment in Bollywood
> > 
> > Subhash K Jha
> > 
> > Not that A R Rahman sounds bitter. And not that he can afford to,
> > given his status of one of the leading Asian composers of his times. 
> > But Rahman is rather uncertain about his future in Hindi films.
> > Reason? "Too many period films in Hindi. Take the case of 1947:
> > Earth, Zubeida, Lagaan, The Legend Of Bhagat Singh, Water, Bose: The
> > Forgotten Hero, Kisna among the many. I've worked hard on each of 
> > these themes. But the end-result hasn't been worth it. The songs were
> > either pushed into the background or not used at all…or worse still,
> > used badly. I feel very frustrated by this. But what can I do?
> > Composing tunes is my job. How they are used isn't up to me." Rahman 
> > seems unhappy with the way Subhash Ghai used his track 'Hum hain iss
> > pal yahan' in Kisna. "Though it was a love ballad it wasn't sung by
> > the lead pair at all. It was placed in the background. That killed
> > the song's impact." But the worst experience was Bose: The Forgotten
> > Hero. "It's become Bose: The Forgotten Music," jokes Rehman. "I had
> > worked really hard on the music. But it all totaled to zero finally. 
> > But after Zubeida and Bose I'm doing another film with Shyam Benegal.
> > It's a full-on musical. But please, no more period films for the time
> > being." Having had his fill of blasts from the past, Rahman is now 
> > looking at a more contemporary kind of music. "All my Hindi
> > assignments at the moment including Rakesh Mehra's Rang De Basanti
> > and Abbas Tyrewala's romantic film are contemporary subjects. I'm
> > quite done with period films for now. I think Mangal Pandey would be 
> > last film of that ilk." Righfully proud of his compositions in the
> > just-released Mangal Pandey, Rahman reveals how he had been offered
> > three film about freedom fighters/warriors including Roland Joffe's
> > The Invaders. "But I finally chose Mangal Pandey. Yeah, the fact that
> > Aamir Khan was in it did influence my decision. Aamir and I really
> > gelled well during Lagaan. In fact I'm really proud of my work in
> > Lagaan and 1947-Earth which also starred Aamir." Going on to speak 
> > about the second part of Deepa Mehta's trilogy, the third part Water
> > is ready. It's the first project where Rahman has done the songs and
> > not the background music. "I moved away because of the controversies 
> > surrounding the film. What's the point of creating music for a
> > project that makes some people unhappy? But I saw Water recently. And
> > it took my breath away." Has there been anything in Hindi music that
> > Rahman has liked lately? "Yeah I like M M Kreem's music. His `Jadoo 
> > hai nasha hai' in Jism was a surprise. And I like a couple of
> > Pakistani songs which have been used in Hindi films like Murder
> > recently."
> > 
> > * What's the point of creating music for a project that makes some 
> > people unhappy? But I saw Water recently. And it took my breath away
> > 
> > Rahman's problems with Bollywood:
> > * Gets offered for too many period films (Zubeida, Lagaan, The Legend
> > Of Bhagat Singh, Water, Bose: The Forgotten Hero, Kisna) 
> > * Subhash Ghai under-played his love ballad 'Hum hain iss pal yahan'
> > in Kisna by not picturising it on the lead pair
> > * The producers did not adequately promote the soundtrack of Shyam
> > Benegal's Bose: The Forgotten Hero. "It's become Bose: The Forgotten 
> > Music," Rahman jokes
> > 
> > Source: Mumbai Mirror
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > This August, Discover the Birth of Your Indepe

Re: [arr] No more period films for ARR

2005-07-18 Thread Guruprasad S



at last ARR understands that his classy music for period movies may win
the critics hearts but will not take him anywhere when it comes to
audience... hope shekar kapur's movie will be his last period movieOn 19/07/05, karthik.s <[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:






Great..
 
Too 
much of any thing is bad...I guess, ARR's experiment with period films have 
reached a saturation point...
 
I had 
this in mind for long but could not utter as I thought that the Man himself will 
know much better that we all do.
 
Let 
ARR give himself atleast 3 years from now to get away from period 
filmsRemember he still has got to do an Album on Bharathiyar's songs, 
Marudhanayakam (Don't jump on me...it will happen with ARR also..in inner 
concious says), Mahabaratha Trilogy etc..
 
But 
for now, it should be contemporary films..
 
Bye
Karthik

  -Original Message-From: arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com
 
  [mailto:arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com]On Behalf Of Guruprasad 
  SSent: Tuesday, July 19, 2005 11:04 AMTo: 
  arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.comSubject: Re: [arr] No more period films 
  for ARRthis is all true but this doesnt sound like an ARR 
  interview... never seen Rahman talk this way!!
  On 19/07/05, Avin 
  DCosta < 
  [EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
  Hi,  Read this 
interview on todays "Mumbai Mirror", It seems like Rahman is finally 
speaking our fans mind..http://www.mumbaimirror.com/mmpaper.asp?sectid=10&articleid=71820052310574377182005231039578
No 
more period films for me now! Urges A R Rahman, currently unhappy 
with his treatment in BollywoodSubhash K JhaNot that A R 
Rahman sounds bitter. And not that he can afford to,given his status of 
one of the leading Asian composers of his times. But Rahman is rather 
uncertain about his future in Hindi films.Reason? "Too many period films 
in Hindi. Take the case of 1947:Earth, Zubeida, Lagaan, The Legend Of 
Bhagat Singh, Water, Bose: TheForgotten Hero, Kisna among the many. I've 
worked hard on each of these themes. But the end-result hasn't been 
worth it. The songs wereeither pushed into the background or not used at 
all…or worse still,used badly. I feel very frustrated by this. But what 
can I do?Composing tunes is my job. How they are used isn't up to me." 
Rahman seems unhappy with the way Subhash Ghai used his track 'Hum hain 
isspal yahan' in Kisna. "Though it was a love ballad it wasn't sung 
bythe lead pair at all. It was placed in the background. That 
killedthe song's impact." But the worst experience was Bose: The 
ForgottenHero. "It's become Bose: The Forgotten Music," jokes Rehman. "I 
hadworked really hard on the music. But it all totaled to zero finally. 
But after Zubeida and Bose I'm doing another film with Shyam 
Benegal.It's a full-on musical. But please, no more period films for the 
timebeing." Having had his fill of blasts from the past, Rahman is now 
looking at a more contemporary kind of music. "All my 
Hindiassignments at the moment including Rakesh Mehra's Rang De 
Basantiand Abbas Tyrewala's romantic film are contemporary subjects. 
I'mquite done with period films for now. I think Mangal Pandey would be 
last film of that ilk." Righfully proud of his compositions in 
thejust-released Mangal Pandey, Rahman reveals how he had been 
offeredthree film about freedom fighters/warriors including Roland 
Joffe'sThe Invaders. "But I finally chose Mangal Pandey. Yeah, the fact 
thatAamir Khan was in it did influence my decision. Aamir and I 
reallygelled well during Lagaan. In fact I'm really proud of my work 
inLagaan and 1947-Earth which also starred Aamir." Going on to speak 
about the second part of Deepa Mehta's trilogy, the third part 
Wateris ready. It's the first project where Rahman has done the songs 
andnot the background music. "I moved away because of the controversies 
surrounding the film. What's the point of creating music for 
aproject that makes some people unhappy? But I saw Water recently. 
Andit took my breath away." Has there been anything in Hindi music 
thatRahman has liked lately? "Yeah I like M M Kreem's music. His `Jadoo 
hai nasha hai' in Jism was a surprise. And I like a couple 
ofPakistani songs which have been used in Hindi films like 
Murderrecently."* What's the point of creating music for a 
project that makes some people unhappy? But I saw Water recently. And it 
took my breath awayRahman's problems with Bollywood:* Gets 
offered for too many period films (Zubeida, Lagaan, The LegendOf Bhagat 
Singh, Water, Bose: The Forgotten Hero, Kisna) * Subhash Ghai 
under-played his love ballad 'Hum hain iss pal yahan'in Kisna by not 
picturising it on the lead pair* The producers did not adequately 
promote the soundtrack of ShyamBenegal's Bose: The Forgotten Hero. "It's 
become Bose: The Forgotten Music," Rahma

RE: [arr] No more period films for ARR

2005-07-18 Thread karthik.s





Great..
 
Too 
much of any thing is bad...I guess, ARR's experiment with period films have 
reached a saturation point...
 
I had 
this in mind for long but could not utter as I thought that the Man himself will 
know much better that we all do.
 
Let 
ARR give himself atleast 3 years from now to get away from period 
filmsRemember he still has got to do an Album on Bharathiyar's songs, 
Marudhanayakam (Don't jump on me...it will happen with ARR also..in inner 
concious says), Mahabaratha Trilogy etc..
 
But 
for now, it should be contemporary films..
 
Bye
Karthik

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  arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.comSubject: Re: [arr] No more period films 
  for ARRthis is all true but this doesnt sound like an ARR 
  interview... never seen Rahman talk this way!!
  On 19/07/05, Avin 
  DCosta < 
  [EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
  Hi,  Read this 
interview on todays "Mumbai Mirror", It seems like Rahman is finally 
speaking our fans mind..http://www.mumbaimirror.com/mmpaper.asp?sectid=10&articleid=71820052310574377182005231039578No 
more period films for me now! Urges A R Rahman, currently unhappy 
with his treatment in BollywoodSubhash K JhaNot that A R 
Rahman sounds bitter. And not that he can afford to,given his status of 
one of the leading Asian composers of his times. But Rahman is rather 
uncertain about his future in Hindi films.Reason? "Too many period films 
in Hindi. Take the case of 1947:Earth, Zubeida, Lagaan, The Legend Of 
Bhagat Singh, Water, Bose: TheForgotten Hero, Kisna among the many. I've 
worked hard on each of these themes. But the end-result hasn't been 
worth it. The songs wereeither pushed into the background or not used at 
all…or worse still,used badly. I feel very frustrated by this. But what 
can I do?Composing tunes is my job. How they are used isn't up to me." 
Rahman seems unhappy with the way Subhash Ghai used his track 'Hum hain 
isspal yahan' in Kisna. "Though it was a love ballad it wasn't sung 
bythe lead pair at all. It was placed in the background. That 
killedthe song's impact." But the worst experience was Bose: The 
ForgottenHero. "It's become Bose: The Forgotten Music," jokes Rehman. "I 
hadworked really hard on the music. But it all totaled to zero finally. 
But after Zubeida and Bose I'm doing another film with Shyam 
Benegal.It's a full-on musical. But please, no more period films for the 
timebeing." Having had his fill of blasts from the past, Rahman is now 
looking at a more contemporary kind of music. "All my 
Hindiassignments at the moment including Rakesh Mehra's Rang De 
Basantiand Abbas Tyrewala's romantic film are contemporary subjects. 
I'mquite done with period films for now. I think Mangal Pandey would be 
last film of that ilk." Righfully proud of his compositions in 
thejust-released Mangal Pandey, Rahman reveals how he had been 
offeredthree film about freedom fighters/warriors including Roland 
Joffe'sThe Invaders. "But I finally chose Mangal Pandey. Yeah, the fact 
thatAamir Khan was in it did influence my decision. Aamir and I 
reallygelled well during Lagaan. In fact I'm really proud of my work 
inLagaan and 1947-Earth which also starred Aamir." Going on to speak 
about the second part of Deepa Mehta's trilogy, the third part 
Wateris ready. It's the first project where Rahman has done the songs 
andnot the background music. "I moved away because of the controversies 
surrounding the film. What's the point of creating music for 
aproject that makes some people unhappy? But I saw Water recently. 
Andit took my breath away." Has there been anything in Hindi music 
thatRahman has liked lately? "Yeah I like M M Kreem's music. His `Jadoo 
hai nasha hai' in Jism was a surprise. And I like a couple 
ofPakistani songs which have been used in Hindi films like 
Murderrecently."* What's the point of creating music for a 
project that makes some people unhappy? But I saw Water recently. And it 
took my breath awayRahman's problems with Bollywood:* Gets 
offered for too many period films (Zubeida, Lagaan, The LegendOf Bhagat 
Singh, Water, Bose: The Forgotten Hero, Kisna) * Subhash Ghai 
under-played his love ballad 'Hum hain iss pal yahan'in Kisna by not 
picturising it on the lead pair* The producers did not adequately 
promote the soundtrack of ShyamBenegal's Bose: The Forgotten Hero. "It's 
become Bose: The Forgotten Music," Rahman jokesSource: Mumbai 
Mirror





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Re: [arr] No more period films for ARR

2005-07-18 Thread Guruprasad S



this is all true but this doesnt sound like an ARR interview... never seen Rahman talk this way!!On 19/07/05, Avin DCosta <
[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Hi,  Read this interview on todays "Mumbai Mirror", It seems like Rahman
is finally speaking our fans mind..http://www.mumbaimirror.com/mmpaper.asp?sectid=10&articleid=71820052310574377182005231039578No more period films for me now!
Urges A R Rahman, currently unhappy with his treatment in BollywoodSubhash K JhaNot that A R Rahman sounds bitter. And not that he can afford to,given his status of one of the leading Asian composers of his times.
But Rahman is rather uncertain about his future in Hindi films.Reason? "Too many period films in Hindi. Take the case of 1947:Earth, Zubeida, Lagaan, The Legend Of Bhagat Singh, Water, Bose: TheForgotten Hero, Kisna among the many. I've worked hard on each of
these themes. But the end-result hasn't been worth it. The songs wereeither pushed into the background or not used at all…or worse still,used badly. I feel very frustrated by this. But what can I do?Composing tunes is my job. How they are used isn't up to me." Rahman
seems unhappy with the way Subhash Ghai used his track 'Hum hain isspal yahan' in Kisna. "Though it was a love ballad it wasn't sung bythe lead pair at all. It was placed in the background. That killed
the song's impact." But the worst experience was Bose: The ForgottenHero. "It's become Bose: The Forgotten Music," jokes Rehman. "I hadworked really hard on the music. But it all totaled to zero finally.
But after Zubeida and Bose I'm doing another film with Shyam Benegal.It's a full-on musical. But please, no more period films for the timebeing." Having had his fill of blasts from the past, Rahman is now
looking at a more contemporary kind of music. "All my Hindiassignments at the moment including Rakesh Mehra's Rang De Basantiand Abbas Tyrewala's romantic film are contemporary subjects. I'mquite done with period films for now. I think Mangal Pandey would be
last film of that ilk." Righfully proud of his compositions in thejust-released Mangal Pandey, Rahman reveals how he had been offeredthree film about freedom fighters/warriors including Roland Joffe's
The Invaders. "But I finally chose Mangal Pandey. Yeah, the fact thatAamir Khan was in it did influence my decision. Aamir and I reallygelled well during Lagaan. In fact I'm really proud of my work inLagaan and 1947-Earth which also starred Aamir." Going on to speak
about the second part of Deepa Mehta's trilogy, the third part Wateris ready. It's the first project where Rahman has done the songs andnot the background music. "I moved away because of the controversies
surrounding the film. What's the point of creating music for aproject that makes some people unhappy? But I saw Water recently. Andit took my breath away." Has there been anything in Hindi music thatRahman has liked lately? "Yeah I like M M Kreem's music. His `Jadoo
hai nasha hai' in Jism was a surprise. And I like a couple ofPakistani songs which have been used in Hindi films like Murderrecently."* What's the point of creating music for a project that makes some
people unhappy? But I saw Water recently. And it took my breath awayRahman's problems with Bollywood:* Gets offered for too many period films (Zubeida, Lagaan, The LegendOf Bhagat Singh, Water, Bose: The Forgotten Hero, Kisna)
* Subhash Ghai under-played his love ballad 'Hum hain iss pal yahan'in Kisna by not picturising it on the lead pair* The producers did not adequately promote the soundtrack of ShyamBenegal's Bose: The Forgotten Hero. "It's become Bose: The Forgotten
Music," Rahman jokesSource: Mumbai MirrorThis August, Discover the Birth of Your Independenceand The Magic of A.R.Rahman's Music inMangal Pandey - The Rising
http://www.risingthefilm.comhttp://www.mangalpandeythefilm.comMusic released: Jul 14, 2005 Movie releases: Aug 12, 2005Explore, Experience, Enjoy A.R.Rahman
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2005-07-18 Thread Avin DCosta

 Hi,
  Read this interview on todays "Mumbai Mirror", It seems like Rahman 
is finally speaking our fans mind..

http://www.mumbaimirror.com/mmpaper.asp?
sectid=10&articleid=71820052310574377182005231039578

No more period films for me now!  

Urges A R Rahman, currently unhappy with his treatment in Bollywood 

Subhash K Jha 

Not that A R Rahman sounds bitter. And not that he can afford to, 
given his status of one of the leading Asian composers of his times. 
But Rahman is rather uncertain about his future in Hindi films. 
Reason? "Too many period films in Hindi. Take the case of 1947: 
Earth, Zubeida, Lagaan, The Legend Of Bhagat Singh, Water, Bose: The 
Forgotten Hero, Kisna among the many. I've worked hard on each of 
these themes. But the end-result hasn't been worth it. The songs were 
either pushed into the background or not used at all…or worse still, 
used badly. I feel very frustrated by this. But what can I do? 
Composing tunes is my job. How they are used isn't up to me." Rahman 
seems unhappy with the way Subhash Ghai used his track 'Hum hain iss 
pal yahan' in Kisna. "Though it was a love ballad it wasn't sung by 
the lead pair at all. It was placed in the background. That killed 
the song's impact." But the worst experience was Bose: The Forgotten 
Hero. "It's become Bose: The Forgotten Music," jokes Rehman. "I had 
worked really hard on the music. But it all totaled to zero finally. 
But after Zubeida and Bose I'm doing another film with Shyam Benegal. 
It's a full-on musical. But please, no more period films for the time 
being." Having had his fill of blasts from the past, Rahman is now 
looking at a more contemporary kind of music. "All my Hindi 
assignments at the moment including Rakesh Mehra's Rang De Basanti 
and Abbas Tyrewala's romantic film are contemporary subjects. I'm 
quite done with period films for now. I think Mangal Pandey would be 
last film of that ilk." Righfully proud of his compositions in the 
just-released Mangal Pandey, Rahman reveals how he had been offered 
three film about freedom fighters/warriors including Roland Joffe's 
The Invaders. "But I finally chose Mangal Pandey. Yeah, the fact that 
Aamir Khan was in it did influence my decision. Aamir and I really 
gelled well during Lagaan. In fact I'm really proud of my work in 
Lagaan and 1947-Earth which also starred Aamir." Going on to speak 
about the second part of Deepa Mehta's trilogy, the third part Water 
is ready. It's the first project where Rahman has done the songs and 
not the background music. "I moved away because of the controversies 
surrounding the film. What's the point of creating music for a 
project that makes some people unhappy? But I saw Water recently. And 
it took my breath away." Has there been anything in Hindi music that 
Rahman has liked lately? "Yeah I like M M Kreem's music. His `Jadoo 
hai nasha hai' in Jism was a surprise. And I like a couple of 
Pakistani songs which have been used in Hindi films like Murder 
recently." 

* What's the point of creating music for a project that makes some 
people unhappy? But I saw Water recently. And it took my breath away

Rahman's problems with Bollywood:
* Gets offered for too many period films (Zubeida, Lagaan, The Legend 
Of Bhagat Singh, Water, Bose: The Forgotten Hero, Kisna)
* Subhash Ghai under-played his love ballad 'Hum hain iss pal yahan' 
in Kisna by not picturising it on the lead pair 
* The producers did not adequately promote the soundtrack of Shyam 
Benegal's Bose: The Forgotten Hero. "It's become Bose: The Forgotten 
Music," Rahman jokes  
  
Source: Mumbai Mirror







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