Re: [arr] Re: BOSE - Ekla Chalo - beat structure
Hey guys if u r refering to the time signatures used in western classical music then there is no time signature like 3/3 . And Airjit when vijay said 3/4 he must have been refering to western classical music . For further information abt time signatures refer http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Time_signature On 6/7/05, fani kalyan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: hi..the other arr songs in misrachapu are vennelavennela...mellaga rave...from premadesham (kadhal desham) and kalava kanne kalavarakshakudu(ratchkani guess)..any comments?long live arrphani kalyan--- Arijit Debnath <[EMAIL PROTECTED] > wrote:> Sorry to sayI dont where do u find this 3/4 beat> (Rupaka) in "Ekla Cholo".> It is simple 6 beat song(3/3). No doubt about that.> U should learn something before commenting on > somthing.>> The "Kareeb" song u mentioned is also 6 beat(3/3).> The "Desh ki mitti" song is rather 7 (3/4) beat.>> Arijit>>> VijayNarain < [EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:> hi rishnel,> i wanted to speak about this before,and now that uve> asked let me tell > u.Ekla chalo is one of those few songs set in a 3/4> beat or what u may> call "rupaka taala" in carnatic music.This beat is> usually used in> waltz numbers.Other examples of songs set to this > beat are> butterfly(illayaraja) and chori chori jab nazrein> milee(kareeb).It is> indeed a daunting task to set songs to such a beat> structure and still> managing to sound unique and in Bose our man handles > it with the> finesse we all love him for.Also note that the song> Des ki mitti is> set in a 7/8 beat or misra chapu(in carnatic),and> there are a number> of a r compositions in that beat. >> any one with similar ir dissimilar views plz tell> me.>> LONG LIVE AR> LONG LIVE MUSIC>>> --- In arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com , Rishnel Ram> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:> > Hi everyone.> >> > I bought 'Bose - the forgotten hero' yesterday> and what wonderful> music it has.> > > > Listening to the song 'Ekla Chalo' i wasn't> 'easily' able to> identify which taal it is based on. (yeah i know i'm> not that> classical trained!)> >> > Can anyone classically knowledgable enough out > there (surely many!)> please enlighten me with which beat structure /> matra the song is> based on.> >> > I think it is on 8 beats; with the 'tinging'> rhythm on the 4th, 6th > and 7th beat notes. I'm not sure if i'm quite> descriptive here...but> anyway.> >> > 'Des ki mitti' is on Rupak (7 matra), right?> >> > keep listening!> > > > Please help.> >> > cheers...> > Rishnel> >> >> > Send instant messages to your online friends> http://au.messenger.yahoo.com > Explore, Experience, Enjoy A.R.Rahman - The Man, The> Music, The Magic.> Only at arrahmanfans - The definitive A.R.Rahman> e-community. >> Homepage: http://www.arrahmanfans.com> To Subscribe: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > To Unsubscribe:> [EMAIL PROTECTED]>> -> Yahoo! Groups Links >>To visit your group on the web, go to:> http://groups.yahoo.com/group/arrahmanfans/>>To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: > [EMAIL PROTECTED]>>Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the> Yahoo! Terms of Service.>> >>> -> Free antispam, antivirus and 1GB to save all your> messages> Only in Yahoo! Mail: http://in.mail.yahoo.com __Discover Yahoo!Stay in touch with email, IM, photo sharing and more. Check it out!http://discover.yahoo.com/stayintouch.html Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-->What would our lives be like without music, dance, and theater?Donate or volunteer in the arts today at Network for Good! http://us.click.yahoo.com/rKxVKC/SOnJAA/n1hLAA/iyUplB/TM~->Explore, Experience, Enjoy A.R.Rahman - The Man, The Music, The Magic.Only at arrahmanfans - The definitive A.R.Rahman e-community.Homepage: http://www.arrahmanfans.comTo Subscribe: [EMAIL PROTECTED]To Unsubscribe: [EMAIL PROTECTED]Yahoo! Groups Links<*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/arrahmanfans/<*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]<*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ Explore, Experience, Enjoy A.R.Rahman - The Man, The Music, The Magic. Only at arrahmanfans - The definitive A.R.Rahman e-community. Homepage: http://www.arrahmanfans.com To Subscribe: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Yahoo! Groups Links To visit your group on the web, go to:http://groups.yahoo.com/group/arrahmanfans/ To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
Re: [arr] Re: BOSE - Ekla Chalo - beat structure(lpz dbl chk)
Hi vijay! I am really sorry to charge u like thatI am so so sorry. Actually in north indian taal there is also a taal called "rupak"---it has 7 beats---it goes like this ti-ti-na/dhi-na-dhi-na---I thought u r telling about this taal "Rupaka" and also 3/4 matches in that case---but reading ur mail I found myself wrong. Very sorry---hope u can understand. ArijitVijayNarain <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: dear arijit,what u call as a six beat structure is when the tempo is slow.Bycombining 3+3 beats in a single structure u get 6 beat structure.Alsorupaka taala is a 6 beat taal which is expanded as follows:1 dhritam 1 laghuand 1 dritam has 2 beats and 1 laghu has 4 beats which sum up to 6.usually a beat structure different from an 8 beat structure isexpressed as n/8 where n is the number of beats in the song.so eklachalo coming to ur lines may be called a 6/8 beat song which isnothing but 3/4.As far as the des ki mitti is concerned its a 7 beatsong or 7/8,which is exactly what ive said in my prev msg. the 8thbeat is but a reference used for expressing other beats.I guess ushould read the messages properly before commenting(no offence heredude).And i may still be wrong but please double check for my sake anddo tell me if i am.thank u for ur feedback--- In arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com, Arijit Debnath<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:> Sorry to sayI dont where do u find this 3/4 beat (Rupaka) in"Ekla Cholo".> It is simple 6 beat song(3/3). No doubt about that. U should learnsomething before commenting on somthing.> > The "Kareeb" song u mentioned is also 6 beat(3/3). The "Desh kimitti" song is rather 7 (3/4) beat.> > Arijit> > > VijayNarain <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:> > > > > hi rishnel,> i wanted to speak about this before,and now that uve asked let me tell> u.Ekla chalo is one of those few songs set in a 3/4 beat or what u may> call "rupaka taala" in carnatic music.This beat is usually used in> waltz numbers.Other examples of songs set to this beat are> butterfly(illayaraja) and chori chori jab nazrein milee(kareeb).It is> indeed a daunting task to set songs to such a beat structure and still> managing to sound unique and in Bose our man handles it with the> finesse we all love him for.Also note that the song Des ki mitti is> set in a 7/8 beat or misra chapu(in carnatic),and there are a number> of a r compositions in that beat.> > any one with similar ir dissimilar views plz tell me.> > LONG LIVE AR> LONG LIVE MUSIC> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com, Rishnel Ram <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:> > Hi everyone.> > > > I bought 'Bose - the forgotten hero' yesterday and what wonderful> music it has.> > > > Listening to the song 'Ekla Chalo' i wasn't 'easily' able to> identify which taal it is based on. (yeah i know i'm not that> classical trained!)> > > > Can anyone classically knowledgable enough out there (surely many!)> please enlighten me with which beat structure / matra the song is> based on.> > > > I think it is on 8 beats; with the 'tinging' rhythm on the 4th, 6th> and 7th beat notes. I'm not sure if i'm quite descriptive here...but> anyway.> > > > 'Des ki mitti' is on Rupak (7 matra), right?> > > > keep listening!> > > > Please help.> > > > cheers...> > Rishnel> > > > > > Send instant messages to your online friends> http://au.messenger.yahoo.com> > > > > > > > > Explore, Experience, Enjoy A.R.Rahman - The Man, The Music, The Magic.> Only at arrahmanfans - The definitive A.R.Rahman e-community.> > Homepage: http://www.arrahmanfans.com> To Subscribe: [EMAIL PROTECTED]> To Unsubscribe: [EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > > > -> Yahoo! Groups Links> > To visit your group on the web, go to:> http://groups.yahoo.com/group/arrahmanfans/> > To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:> [EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. > > > > > -> Free antispam, antivirus and 1GB to save all your messages> Only in Yahoo! Mail: http://in.mail.yahoo.comExplore, Experience, Enjoy A.R.Rahman - The Man, The Music, The Magic.Only at arrahmanfans - The definitive A.R.Rahman e-community.Homepage: http://www.arrahmanfans.comTo Subscribe: [EMAIL PROTECTED]To Unsubscribe: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Free antispam, antivirus and 1GB to save all your messages Only in Yahoo! Mail: http://in.mail.yahoo.com Explore, Experience, Enjoy A.R.Rahman - The Man, The Music, The Magic. Only at arrahmanfans - The definitive A.R.Rahman e-community. Homepage: http://www.arrahmanfans.com To Subscribe: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Yahoo! Groups Links To visit your group on the web, go to:http://groups.yahoo.com/group/arrahmanfans/ To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
Re: [arr] Re: BOSE - Ekla Chalo - beat structure
hi..the other arr songs in misrachapu are vennela vennela...mellaga rave...from premadesham (kadhal desham) and kalava kanne kalavarakshakudu(ratchkan i guess)..any comments? long live arr phani kalyan --- Arijit Debnath <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Sorry to sayI dont where do u find this 3/4 beat > (Rupaka) in "Ekla Cholo". > It is simple 6 beat song(3/3). No doubt about that. > U should learn something before commenting on > somthing. > > The "Kareeb" song u mentioned is also 6 beat(3/3). > The "Desh ki mitti" song is rather 7 (3/4) beat. > > Arijit > > > VijayNarain <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > hi rishnel, > i wanted to speak about this before,and now that uve > asked let me tell > u.Ekla chalo is one of those few songs set in a 3/4 > beat or what u may > call "rupaka taala" in carnatic music.This beat is > usually used in > waltz numbers.Other examples of songs set to this > beat are > butterfly(illayaraja) and chori chori jab nazrein > milee(kareeb).It is > indeed a daunting task to set songs to such a beat > structure and still > managing to sound unique and in Bose our man handles > it with the > finesse we all love him for.Also note that the song > Des ki mitti is > set in a 7/8 beat or misra chapu(in carnatic),and > there are a number > of a r compositions in that beat. > > any one with similar ir dissimilar views plz tell > me. > > LONG LIVE AR > LONG LIVE MUSIC > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com, Rishnel Ram > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Hi everyone. > > > > I bought 'Bose - the forgotten hero' yesterday > and what wonderful > music it has. > > > > Listening to the song 'Ekla Chalo' i wasn't > 'easily' able to > identify which taal it is based on. (yeah i know i'm > not that > classical trained!) > > > > Can anyone classically knowledgable enough out > there (surely many!) > please enlighten me with which beat structure / > matra the song is > based on. > > > > I think it is on 8 beats; with the 'tinging' > rhythm on the 4th, 6th > and 7th beat notes. I'm not sure if i'm quite > descriptive here...but > anyway. > > > > 'Des ki mitti' is on Rupak (7 matra), right? > > > > keep listening! > > > > Please help. > > > > cheers... > > Rishnel > > > > > > Send instant messages to your online friends > http://au.messenger.yahoo.com > > > > > > > > > Explore, Experience, Enjoy A.R.Rahman - The Man, The > Music, The Magic. > Only at arrahmanfans - The definitive A.R.Rahman > e-community. > > Homepage: http://www.arrahmanfans.com > To Subscribe: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > To Unsubscribe: > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > > - > Yahoo! Groups Links > >To visit your group on the web, go to: > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/arrahmanfans/ > >To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the > Yahoo! Terms of Service. > > > > > - > Free antispam, antivirus and 1GB to save all your > messages > Only in Yahoo! Mail: http://in.mail.yahoo.com __ Discover Yahoo! Stay in touch with email, IM, photo sharing and more. Check it out! http://discover.yahoo.com/stayintouch.html Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~--> What would our lives be like without music, dance, and theater? Donate or volunteer in the arts today at Network for Good! http://us.click.yahoo.com/rKxVKC/SOnJAA/n1hLAA/iyUplB/TM ~-> Explore, Experience, Enjoy A.R.Rahman - The Man, The Music, The Magic. Only at arrahmanfans - The definitive A.R.Rahman e-community. Homepage: http://www.arrahmanfans.com To Subscribe: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/arrahmanfans/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[arr] Re: BOSE - Ekla Chalo - beat structure(lpz dbl chk)
Great. all trained people.. i am like alice in wonderland. all i know is these beats are really making a big difference to the songs. it gives the soul. be it 3/3 or 7/8 :-) but this thread really seems to be informative. thanks to three of you --- In arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com, "VijayNarain" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > dear arijit, > what u call as a six beat structure is when the tempo is slow.By > combining 3+3 beats in a single structure u get 6 beat structure.Also > rupaka taala is a 6 beat taal which is expanded as follows: > 1 dhritam 1 laghu > and 1 dritam has 2 beats and 1 laghu has 4 beats which sum up to 6. > usually a beat structure different from an 8 beat structure is > expressed as n/8 where n is the number of beats in the song.so ekla > chalo coming to ur lines may be called a 6/8 beat song which is > nothing but 3/4.As far as the des ki mitti is concerned its a 7 beat > song or 7/8,which is exactly what ive said in my prev msg. the 8th > beat is but a reference used for expressing other beats.I guess u > should read the messages properly before commenting(no offence here > dude).And i may still be wrong but please double check for my sake and > do tell me if i am.thank u for ur feedback > > > > > --- In arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com, Arijit Debnath > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Sorry to sayI dont where do u find this 3/4 beat (Rupaka) in > "Ekla Cholo". > > It is simple 6 beat song(3/3). No doubt about that. U should learn > something before commenting on somthing. > > > > The "Kareeb" song u mentioned is also 6 beat(3/3). The "Desh ki > mitti" song is rather 7 (3/4) beat. > > > > Arijit > > > > > > VijayNarain <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > hi rishnel, > > i wanted to speak about this before,and now that uve asked let me tell > > u.Ekla chalo is one of those few songs set in a 3/4 beat or what u may > > call "rupaka taala" in carnatic music.This beat is usually used in > > waltz numbers.Other examples of songs set to this beat are > > butterfly(illayaraja) and chori chori jab nazrein milee (kareeb).It is > > indeed a daunting task to set songs to such a beat structure and still > > managing to sound unique and in Bose our man handles it with the > > finesse we all love him for.Also note that the song Des ki mitti is > > set in a 7/8 beat or misra chapu(in carnatic),and there are a number > > of a r compositions in that beat. > > > > any one with similar ir dissimilar views plz tell me. > > > > LONG LIVE AR > > LONG LIVE MUSIC > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com, Rishnel Ram <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > Hi everyone. > > > > > > I bought 'Bose - the forgotten hero' yesterday and what wonderful > > music it has. > > > > > > Listening to the song 'Ekla Chalo' i wasn't 'easily' able to > > identify which taal it is based on. (yeah i know i'm not that > > classical trained!) > > > > > > Can anyone classically knowledgable enough out there (surely many!) > > please enlighten me with which beat structure / matra the song is > > based on. > > > > > > I think it is on 8 beats; with the 'tinging' rhythm on the 4th, 6th > > and 7th beat notes. I'm not sure if i'm quite descriptive here...but > > anyway. > > > > > > 'Des ki mitti' is on Rupak (7 matra), right? > > > > > > keep listening! > > > > > > Please help. > > > > > > cheers... > > > Rishnel > > > > > > > > > Send instant messages to your online friends > > http://au.messenger.yahoo.com > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Explore, Experience, Enjoy A.R.Rahman - The Man, The Music, The Magic. > > Only at arrahmanfans - The definitive A.R.Rahman e-community. > > > > Homepage: http://www.arrahmanfans.com > > To Subscribe: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > To Unsubscribe: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > > > > > > > > - > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > >To visit your group on the web, go to: > > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/arrahmanfans/ > > > >To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > >Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. > > > > > > > > > > - > > Free antispam, antivirus and 1GB to save all your messages > > Only in Yahoo! Mail: http://in.mail.yahoo.com Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~--> What would our lives be like without music, dance, and theater? Donate or volunteer in the arts today at Network for Good! http://us.click.yahoo.com/rKxVKC/SOnJAA/n1hLAA/iyUplB/TM ~-> Explore, Experience, Enjoy A.R.Rahman - The Man, The Music, The Magic. Only at arrahmanfans - The definitive A.R.Rahman e-community. Homepage: http://www.arrahmanfans
RE: [arr] Re: BOSE - Ekla Chalo - beat structure(lpz dbl chk)
Both are correct. In western time notation, 7/8 would be 7 eighth notes (or quavers) into the bar, which is 123-1234 (mostly Indian rhythm) or 1234-123 (Yanni's pet rythm, prob very Mediterannean and is called a 7/8 waltz). What Arijit refers to as 3/3, in western notation is generally, a 3/4 which is 3 quarter notes (crotchets) to the bar, which is 123-123 or popularly known as the Waltz. 6/8 is a popularly known as a slow rock and is much faster than a waltz. I know this for a fact because all Sri Lankan Baila songs are in this beat and it is nothing like a Waltz due to the eigth note denominator instead of the quarter note in a Waltz beat which gives it a faster feel. Hope this helps.>From: "VijayNarain" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>>Reply-To: arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com>To: arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com>Subject: [arr] Re: BOSE - Ekla Chalo - beat structure(lpz dbl chk)>Date: Mon, 06 Jun 2005 13:03:38 ->>dear arijit,>what u call as a six beat structure is when the tempo is slow.By>combining 3+3 beats in a single structure u get 6 beat structure.Also>rupaka taala is a 6 beat taal which is expanded as follows:>1 dhritam 1 laghu>and 1 dritam has 2 beats and 1 laghu has 4 beats which sum up to 6.>usually a beat structure different from an 8 beat structure is>expressed as n/8 where n is the number of beats in the song.so ekla>chalo coming to ur lines may be called a 6/8 beat song which is>nothing but 3/4.As far as the des ki mitti is concerned its a 7 beat>song or 7/8,which is exactly what ive said in my prev msg. the 8th>beat is but a reference used for expressing other beats.I guess u>should read the messages properly before commenting(no offence here>dude).And i may still be wrong but please double check for my sake and>do tell me if i am.thank u for ur feedback>>>>>--- In arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com, Arijit Debnath><[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:> > Sorry to sayI dont where do u find this 3/4 beat (Rupaka) in>"Ekla Cholo".> > It is simple 6 beat song(3/3). No doubt about that. U should learn>something before commenting on somthing.> >> > The "Kareeb" song u mentioned is also 6 beat(3/3). The "Desh ki>mitti" song is rather 7 (3/4) beat.> >> > Arijit> >> >> > VijayNarain <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:> >> >> >> >> > hi rishnel,> > i wanted to speak about this before,and now that uve asked let me tell> > u.Ekla chalo is one of those few songs set in a 3/4 beat or what u may> > call "rupaka taala" in carnatic music.This beat is usually used in> > waltz numbers.Other examples of songs set to this beat are> > butterfly(illayaraja) and chori chori jab nazrein milee(kareeb).It is> > indeed a daunting task to set songs to such a beat structure and still> > managing to sound unique and in Bose our man handles it with the> > finesse we all love him for.Also note that the song Des ki mitti is> > set in a 7/8 beat or misra chapu(in carnatic),and there are a number> > of a r compositions in that beat.> >> > any one with similar ir dissimilar views plz tell me.> >> > LONG LIVE AR> > LONG LIVE MUSIC> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > --- In arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com, Rishnel Ram <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:> > > Hi everyone.> > >> > > I bought 'Bose - the forgotten hero' yesterday and what wonderful> > music it has.> > >> > > Listening to the song 'Ekla Chalo' i wasn't 'easily' able to> > identify which taal it is based on. (yeah i know i'm not that> > classical trained!)> > >> > > Can anyone classically knowledgable enough out there (surely many!)> > please enlighten me with which beat structure / matra the song is> > based on.> > >> > > I think it is on 8 beats; with the 'tinging' rhythm on the 4th, 6th> > and 7th beat notes. I'm not sure if i'm quite descriptive here...but> > anyway.> > >> > > 'Des ki mitti' is on Rupak (7 matra), right?> > >> > > keep listening!> > >> > > Please help.> > >> > > cheers...> > > Rishnel> > >> > >> > > Send instant messages to your online friends> > http://au.messenger.yahoo.com> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > Explore, Experience, Enjoy A.R.Rahman - The Man,
[arr] Re: BOSE - Ekla Chalo - beat structure(lpz dbl chk)
dear arijit, what u call as a six beat structure is when the tempo is slow.By combining 3+3 beats in a single structure u get 6 beat structure.Also rupaka taala is a 6 beat taal which is expanded as follows: 1 dhritam 1 laghu and 1 dritam has 2 beats and 1 laghu has 4 beats which sum up to 6. usually a beat structure different from an 8 beat structure is expressed as n/8 where n is the number of beats in the song.so ekla chalo coming to ur lines may be called a 6/8 beat song which is nothing but 3/4.As far as the des ki mitti is concerned its a 7 beat song or 7/8,which is exactly what ive said in my prev msg. the 8th beat is but a reference used for expressing other beats.I guess u should read the messages properly before commenting(no offence here dude).And i may still be wrong but please double check for my sake and do tell me if i am.thank u for ur feedback --- In arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com, Arijit Debnath <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Sorry to sayI dont where do u find this 3/4 beat (Rupaka) in "Ekla Cholo". > It is simple 6 beat song(3/3). No doubt about that. U should learn something before commenting on somthing. > > The "Kareeb" song u mentioned is also 6 beat(3/3). The "Desh ki mitti" song is rather 7 (3/4) beat. > > Arijit > > > VijayNarain <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > hi rishnel, > i wanted to speak about this before,and now that uve asked let me tell > u.Ekla chalo is one of those few songs set in a 3/4 beat or what u may > call "rupaka taala" in carnatic music.This beat is usually used in > waltz numbers.Other examples of songs set to this beat are > butterfly(illayaraja) and chori chori jab nazrein milee(kareeb).It is > indeed a daunting task to set songs to such a beat structure and still > managing to sound unique and in Bose our man handles it with the > finesse we all love him for.Also note that the song Des ki mitti is > set in a 7/8 beat or misra chapu(in carnatic),and there are a number > of a r compositions in that beat. > > any one with similar ir dissimilar views plz tell me. > > LONG LIVE AR > LONG LIVE MUSIC > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com, Rishnel Ram <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Hi everyone. > > > > I bought 'Bose - the forgotten hero' yesterday and what wonderful > music it has. > > > > Listening to the song 'Ekla Chalo' i wasn't 'easily' able to > identify which taal it is based on. (yeah i know i'm not that > classical trained!) > > > > Can anyone classically knowledgable enough out there (surely many!) > please enlighten me with which beat structure / matra the song is > based on. > > > > I think it is on 8 beats; with the 'tinging' rhythm on the 4th, 6th > and 7th beat notes. I'm not sure if i'm quite descriptive here...but > anyway. > > > > 'Des ki mitti' is on Rupak (7 matra), right? > > > > keep listening! > > > > Please help. > > > > cheers... > > Rishnel > > > > > > Send instant messages to your online friends > http://au.messenger.yahoo.com > > > > > > > > > Explore, Experience, Enjoy A.R.Rahman - The Man, The Music, The Magic. > Only at arrahmanfans - The definitive A.R.Rahman e-community. > > Homepage: http://www.arrahmanfans.com > To Subscribe: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > To Unsubscribe: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > > - > Yahoo! Groups Links > >To visit your group on the web, go to: > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/arrahmanfans/ > >To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. > > > > > - > Free antispam, antivirus and 1GB to save all your messages > Only in Yahoo! Mail: http://in.mail.yahoo.com Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~--> In low income neighborhoods, 84% do not own computers. At Network for Good, help bridge the Digital Divide! http://us.click.yahoo.com/c9hWNA/3MnJAA/n1hLAA/iyUplB/TM ~-> Explore, Experience, Enjoy A.R.Rahman - The Man, The Music, The Magic. Only at arrahmanfans - The definitive A.R.Rahman e-community. Homepage: http://www.arrahmanfans.com To Subscribe: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/arrahmanfans/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[arr] Re: BOSE - Ekla Chalo - beat structure(1 more thing arijit)
the explanation uve given is rite 2.Only ive explained it from a different perspective. --- In arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com, Arijit Debnath <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > To know that u have to learn either tabla or drums or mridangam... > > 3/3 is actually 6 beat 1-2-3/1-2-3(eg. ekla cholo---Bose) > 3/4 is 7 beat 1-2-3/1-2-3-4(eg. desh ki mitti--Bose) > 4/4 is 8 beat 1-2-3-4/1-2-3-4(eg. o palanhareLagaan) > 2/3 is 5 beat 1-2/1-2-3 (eg. roshan hua raat---Sapnay) > > Arijit > > Guruprasad S <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > can somebosy please explain the 3/3, 3/4, 7/8 beats?? sorry that i find it bit tech... > > On 06/06/05, Arijit Debnath < [EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:Sorry to sayI dont where do u find this 3/4 beat (Rupaka) in "Ekla Cholo". > It is simple 6 beat song(3/3). No doubt about that. U should learn something before commenting on somthing. > > The "Kareeb" song u mentioned is also 6 beat(3/3). The "Desh ki mitti" song is rather 7 (3/4) beat. > > Arijit > > > VijayNarain <[EMAIL PROTECTED] > wrote: > > > > > > hi rishnel, > i wanted to speak about this before,and now that uve asked let me tell > u.Ekla chalo is one of those few songs set in a 3/4 beat or what u may > call "rupaka taala" in carnatic music.This beat is usually used in > waltz numbers.Other examples of songs set to this beat are > butterfly(illayaraja) and chori chori jab nazrein milee(kareeb).It is > indeed a daunting task to set songs to such a beat structure and still > managing to sound unique and in Bose our man handles it with the > finesse we all love him for.Also note that the song Des ki mitti is > set in a 7/8 beat or misra chapu(in carnatic),and there are a number > of a r compositions in that beat. > > any one with similar ir dissimilar views plz tell me. > > LONG LIVE AR > LONG LIVE MUSIC > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com, Rishnel Ram <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Hi everyone. > > > > I bought 'Bose - the forgotten hero' yesterday and what wonderful > music it has. > > > > Listening to the song 'Ekla Chalo' i wasn't 'easily' able to > identify which taal it is based on. (yeah i know i'm not that > classical trained!) > > > > Can anyone classically knowledgable enough out there (surely many!) > please enlighten me with which beat structure / matra the song is > based on. > > > > I think it is on 8 beats; with the 'tinging' rhythm on the 4th, 6th > and 7th beat notes. I'm not sure if i'm quite descriptive here...but > anyway. > > > > 'Des ki mitti' is on Rupak (7 matra), right? > > > > keep listening! > > > > Please help. > > > > cheers... > > Rishnel > > > > > > Send instant messages to your online friends > http://au.messenger.yahoo.com > > > > > > > > > > Explore, Experience, Enjoy A.R.Rahman - The Man, The Music, The Magic. > Only at arrahmanfans - The definitive A.R.Rahman e-community. > > Homepage: http://www.arrahmanfans.com > To Subscribe: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > To Unsubscribe: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > > > > - > Free antispam, antivirus and 1GB to save all your messages > Only in Yahoo! Mail: http://in.mail.yahoo.com > > Explore, Experience, Enjoy A.R.Rahman - The Man, The Music, The Magic. > Only at arrahmanfans - The definitive A.R.Rahman e-community. > > Homepage: http://www.arrahmanfans.com > To Subscribe: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > To Unsubscribe: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > > - > Yahoo! Groups Links > >To visit your group on the web, go to: > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/arrahmanfans/ > >To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service . > > > > > > > Explore, Experience, Enjoy A.R.Rahman - The Man, The Music, The Magic. > Only at arrahmanfans - The definitive A.R.Rahman e-community. > > Homepage: http://www.arrahmanfans.com > To Subscribe: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > To Unsubscribe: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > > - > Yahoo! Groups Links > >To visit your group on the web, go to: > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/arrahmanfans/ > >To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. > > > > - > How much free photo storage do you get? Store your friends n family photos for FREE with Yahoo! Photos. > http://in.photos.yahoo.com Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~--> In low income neighborhoods, 84% do not own computers. At Network for Good, help bridge the Digital Divide! http://us.click.yahoo.com/c9hWNA/3MnJAA/n1hLAA/iyUplB/TM ~->
Re: [arr] Re: BOSE - Ekla Chalo - beat structure
To know that u have to learn either tabla or drums or mridangam... 3/3 is actually 6 beat 1-2-3/1-2-3(eg. ekla cholo---Bose) 3/4 is 7 beat 1-2-3/1-2-3-4(eg. desh ki mitti--Bose) 4/4 is 8 beat 1-2-3-4/1-2-3-4(eg. o palanhareLagaan) 2/3 is 5 beat 1-2/1-2-3 (eg. roshan hua raat---Sapnay) ArijitGuruprasad S <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: can somebosy please explain the 3/3, 3/4, 7/8 beats?? sorry that i find it bit tech... On 06/06/05, Arijit Debnath < [EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Sorry to sayI dont where do u find this 3/4 beat (Rupaka) in "Ekla Cholo". It is simple 6 beat song(3/3). No doubt about that. U should learn something before commenting on somthing. The "Kareeb" song u mentioned is also 6 beat(3/3). The "Desh ki mitti" song is rather 7 (3/4) beat. Arijit VijayNarain <[EMAIL PROTECTED] > wrote: hi rishnel,i wanted to speak about this before,and now that uve asked let me tell u.Ekla chalo is one of those few songs set in a 3/4 beat or what u maycall "rupaka taala" in carnatic music.This beat is usually used inwaltz numbers.Other examples of songs set to this beat arebutterfly(illayaraja) and chori chori jab nazrein milee(kareeb).It is indeed a daunting task to set songs to such a beat structure and stillmanaging to sound unique and in Bose our man handles it with thefinesse we all love him for.Also note that the song Des ki mitti isset in a 7/8 beat or misra chapu(in carnatic),and there are a number of a r compositions in that beat.any one with similar ir dissimilar views plz tell me.LONG LIVE ARLONG LIVE MUSIC--- In arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com, Rishnel Ram <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:> Hi everyone.> > I bought 'Bose - the forgotten hero' yesterday and what wonderfulmusic it has.> > Listening to the song 'Ekla Chalo' i wasn't 'easily' able to identify which taal it is based on. (yeah i know i'm not thatclassical trained!)> > Can anyone classically knowledgable enough out there (surely many!)please enlighten me with which beat structure / matra the song is based on.> > I think it is on 8 beats; with the 'tinging' rhythm on the 4th, 6thand 7th beat notes. I'm not sure if i'm quite descriptive here...butanyway.> > 'Des ki mitti' is on Rupak (7 matra), right? > > keep listening!> > Please help.> > cheers...> Rishnel> > > Send instant messages to your online friendshttp://au.messenger.yahoo.comExplore, Experience, Enjoy A.R.Rahman - The Man, The Music, The Magic.Only at arrahmanfans - The definitive A.R.Rahman e-community.Homepage: http://www.arrahmanfans.comTo Subscribe: [EMAIL PROTECTED]To Unsubscribe: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Free antispam, antivirus and 1GB to save all your messagesOnly in Yahoo! Mail: http://in.mail.yahoo.com Explore, Experience, Enjoy A.R.Rahman - The Man, The Music, The Magic.Only at arrahmanfans - The definitive A.R.Rahman e-community.Homepage: http://www.arrahmanfans.comTo Subscribe: [EMAIL PROTECTED]To Unsubscribe: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Yahoo! Groups Links To visit your group on the web, go to:http://groups.yahoo.com/group/arrahmanfans/ To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service . Explore, Experience, Enjoy A.R.Rahman - The Man, The Music, The Magic.Only at arrahmanfans - The definitive A.R.Rahman e-community.Homepage: http://www.arrahmanfans.comTo Subscribe: [EMAIL PROTECTED]To Unsubscribe: [EMAIL PROTECTED] How much free photo storage do you get? Store your friends n family photos for FREE with Yahoo! Photos. http://in.photos.yahoo.com Explore, Experience, Enjoy A.R.Rahman - The Man, The Music, The Magic. Only at arrahmanfans - The definitive A.R.Rahman e-community. Homepage: http://www.arrahmanfans.com To Subscribe: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Yahoo! Groups Links To visit your group on the web, go to:http://groups.yahoo.com/group/arrahmanfans/ To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
Re: [arr] Re: BOSE - Ekla Chalo - beat structure
can somebosy please explain the 3/3, 3/4, 7/8 beats?? sorry that i find it bit tech...On 06/06/05, Arijit Debnath < [EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Sorry to sayI dont where do u find this 3/4 beat (Rupaka) in "Ekla Cholo". It is simple 6 beat song(3/3). No doubt about that. U should learn something before commenting on somthing. The "Kareeb" song u mentioned is also 6 beat(3/3). The "Desh ki mitti" song is rather 7 (3/4) beat. Arijit VijayNarain <[EMAIL PROTECTED] > wrote: hi rishnel,i wanted to speak about this before,and now that uve asked let me tell u.Ekla chalo is one of those few songs set in a 3/4 beat or what u maycall "rupaka taala" in carnatic music.This beat is usually used inwaltz numbers.Other examples of songs set to this beat arebutterfly(illayaraja) and chori chori jab nazrein milee(kareeb).It is indeed a daunting task to set songs to such a beat structure and stillmanaging to sound unique and in Bose our man handles it with thefinesse we all love him for.Also note that the song Des ki mitti isset in a 7/8 beat or misra chapu(in carnatic),and there are a number of a r compositions in that beat.any one with similar ir dissimilar views plz tell me.LONG LIVE ARLONG LIVE MUSIC--- In arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com, Rishnel Ram <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:> Hi everyone.> > I bought 'Bose - the forgotten hero' yesterday and what wonderfulmusic it has.> > Listening to the song 'Ekla Chalo' i wasn't 'easily' able to identify which taal it is based on. (yeah i know i'm not thatclassical trained!)> > Can anyone classically knowledgable enough out there (surely many!)please enlighten me with which beat structure / matra the song is based on.> > I think it is on 8 beats; with the 'tinging' rhythm on the 4th, 6thand 7th beat notes. I'm not sure if i'm quite descriptive here...butanyway.> > 'Des ki mitti' is on Rupak (7 matra), right? > > keep listening!> > Please help.> > cheers...> Rishnel> > > Send instant messages to your online friends http://au.messenger.yahoo.comExplore, Experience, Enjoy A.R.Rahman - The Man, The Music, The Magic.Only at arrahmanfans - The definitive A.R.Rahman e-community.Homepage: http://www.arrahmanfans.comTo Subscribe: [EMAIL PROTECTED]To Unsubscribe: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Free antispam, antivirus and 1GB to save all your messages Only in Yahoo! Mail: http://in.mail.yahoo.com Explore, Experience, Enjoy A.R.Rahman - The Man, The Music, The Magic. Only at arrahmanfans - The definitive A.R.Rahman e-community. Homepage: http://www.arrahmanfans.com To Subscribe: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Yahoo! Groups Links To visit your group on the web, go to:http://groups.yahoo.com/group/arrahmanfans/ To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service . Explore, Experience, Enjoy A.R.Rahman - The Man, The Music, The Magic. Only at arrahmanfans - The definitive A.R.Rahman e-community. Homepage: http://www.arrahmanfans.com To Subscribe: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Yahoo! Groups Links To visit your group on the web, go to:http://groups.yahoo.com/group/arrahmanfans/ To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
Re: [arr] Re: BOSE - Ekla Chalo - beat structure
Sorry to sayI dont where do u find this 3/4 beat (Rupaka) in "Ekla Cholo". It is simple 6 beat song(3/3). No doubt about that. U should learn something before commenting on somthing. The "Kareeb" song u mentioned is also 6 beat(3/3). The "Desh ki mitti" song is rather 7 (3/4) beat. Arijit VijayNarain <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: hi rishnel,i wanted to speak about this before,and now that uve asked let me tellu.Ekla chalo is one of those few songs set in a 3/4 beat or what u maycall "rupaka taala" in carnatic music.This beat is usually used inwaltz numbers.Other examples of songs set to this beat arebutterfly(illayaraja) and chori chori jab nazrein milee(kareeb).It isindeed a daunting task to set songs to such a beat structure and stillmanaging to sound unique and in Bose our man handles it with thefinesse we all love him for.Also note that the song Des ki mitti isset in a 7/8 beat or misra chapu(in carnatic),and there are a numberof a r compositions in that beat.any one with similar ir dissimilar views plz tell me.LONG LIVE ARLONG LIVE MUSIC--- In arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com, Rishnel Ram <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:> Hi everyone.> > I bought 'Bose - the forgotten hero' yesterday and what wonderfulmusic it has.> > Listening to the song 'Ekla Chalo' i wasn't 'easily' able toidentify which taal it is based on. (yeah i know i'm not thatclassical trained!)> > Can anyone classically knowledgable enough out there (surely many!)please enlighten me with which beat structure / matra the song isbased on.> > I think it is on 8 beats; with the 'tinging' rhythm on the 4th, 6thand 7th beat notes. I'm not sure if i'm quite descriptive here...butanyway.> > 'Des ki mitti' is on Rupak (7 matra), right?> > keep listening!> > Please help.> > cheers...> Rishnel> > > Send instant messages to your online friendshttp://au.messenger.yahoo.comExplore, Experience, Enjoy A.R.Rahman - The Man, The Music, The Magic.Only at arrahmanfans - The definitive A.R.Rahman e-community.Homepage: http://www.arrahmanfans.comTo Subscribe: [EMAIL PROTECTED]To Unsubscribe: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Free antispam, antivirus and 1GB to save all your messages Only in Yahoo! Mail: http://in.mail.yahoo.com Explore, Experience, Enjoy A.R.Rahman - The Man, The Music, The Magic. Only at arrahmanfans - The definitive A.R.Rahman e-community. Homepage: http://www.arrahmanfans.com To Subscribe: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Yahoo! Groups Links To visit your group on the web, go to:http://groups.yahoo.com/group/arrahmanfans/ To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
[arr] Re: BOSE - Ekla Chalo - beat structure
hi rishnel, i wanted to speak about this before,and now that uve asked let me tell u.Ekla chalo is one of those few songs set in a 3/4 beat or what u may call "rupaka taala" in carnatic music.This beat is usually used in waltz numbers.Other examples of songs set to this beat are butterfly(illayaraja) and chori chori jab nazrein milee(kareeb).It is indeed a daunting task to set songs to such a beat structure and still managing to sound unique and in Bose our man handles it with the finesse we all love him for.Also note that the song Des ki mitti is set in a 7/8 beat or misra chapu(in carnatic),and there are a number of a r compositions in that beat. any one with similar ir dissimilar views plz tell me. LONG LIVE AR LONG LIVE MUSIC --- In arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com, Rishnel Ram <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hi everyone. > > I bought 'Bose - the forgotten hero' yesterday and what wonderful music it has. > > Listening to the song 'Ekla Chalo' i wasn't 'easily' able to identify which taal it is based on. (yeah i know i'm not that classical trained!) > > Can anyone classically knowledgable enough out there (surely many!) please enlighten me with which beat structure / matra the song is based on. > > I think it is on 8 beats; with the 'tinging' rhythm on the 4th, 6th and 7th beat notes. I'm not sure if i'm quite descriptive here...but anyway. > > 'Des ki mitti' is on Rupak (7 matra), right? > > keep listening! > > Please help. > > cheers... > Rishnel > > > Send instant messages to your online friends http://au.messenger.yahoo.com Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~--> In low income neighborhoods, 84% do not own computers. At Network for Good, help bridge the Digital Divide! http://us.click.yahoo.com/c9hWNA/3MnJAA/n1hLAA/iyUplB/TM ~-> Explore, Experience, Enjoy A.R.Rahman - The Man, The Music, The Magic. Only at arrahmanfans - The definitive A.R.Rahman e-community. Homepage: http://www.arrahmanfans.com To Subscribe: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/arrahmanfans/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
