[arr] Re: I like Raavanan Music but I agree with those who don't like it as much
Taimur, I beg to differ..Have you came across any lyrics by Gulzarsahab which is 'simple'?..There'll be hardly any..His depth of poetry is much more than what we think..He conveys so much that it is difficult to translate it in any other language..same goes with Vairamuthu..In Raavan he has written so wonderfully and AR has given total justice to it. I am not getting what you want and what were your expectations from Raavan..please illustrate more. Regards Yogesh --- In arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com, Taimur Nadeem taimur.nad...@... wrote: My definition of lyrics is very simple , the words should carry the weight to glorify the tune, i never care for meanings  and in this case GULZAR saheb has done far better job than VAIRMUTHU JI.Although RAAVAN and RAVANNAN both dont seem to give any scintillating feel to me , songs seems to be pretty ordinary not a single can be said a masterpiece, but while comparing use words for the tunes i find Ravan songs much better , the singers choice lot better as well.  regards,  taimur --- On Mon, 5/10/10, Gayathri Chandrakasan gayathri_c...@... wrote: From: Gayathri Chandrakasan gayathri_c...@... Subject: RE: [arr] I like Raavanan Music but I agree with those who don't like it as much To: arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com Date: Monday, May 10, 2010, 4:39 AM  It's my humble opinion that most people couldn't see the beauty in Raavanan after listening to Raavanbut then, this has always been the case, at least for me. I've always found it tough to accept the new version after listening to the original numbers. I didn't like Thaalam, Uyire or Saathiya the first time I heard them. And Kehna hi kya Tu hi re (Bombay) sound really awkward in comparison to Kannalane and Uyire Uyire. Well, yeah, that was all in the past. Today, the same songs make me think how dumb I was back then to dismiss these beautiful gems.. And that's the same case with Raavanan too. When I heard them for the first time, I thought the lyrics were odd, the choice of singers were bad, etc. In fact, when I listened to Usure Pogathe the first time around, I thought Vairamuthu must have wrote the lyrics in his sleep. Somehow the words didn't seem to gel with the tune...or so I thought. But after listening to the Tamil version a number of times, I found that I love them equally the same. Well, it did take me some time and effort to forget Behne De whenever Usure Pogathe comes into the picture, but I must say that the effort paid off. And even if Vairamuthu has actually written this in his sleep (which I strongly object and I promise that I would punch myself everyday for thinking the same) the lyrics that flow out of him is just so powerful in comparison to what one would be able to write even in his most alert days. And by this, please don't think that I'm making a comparison between Vairamuthu and Gulzar. Since my knowledge of hindi is confined to comprehending only the basic meaning of the words, I'm certainly in no position to comment on Gulzar's work in the same. (Though I do believe he has done an amazing job at that!) Nevertheless, with Raavanan, I found that Vairamuthu has transported me to a whole new world via his potent words. What makes me feel so? When I heard Behne De the first few times around, I found that the protagonist was associating the forbidden love as his only means of survival. With lines like sagar mein jaake girna hai, behene de nadiyan ki tara wasn't he asking himself to be flown as that would enable himself to emerge with the sea? (With sea being his ladylove) A more powerful punch came in the later stanza... Doob gaye jo suna hai saare tere dere aate hain Dil ke chulu mein bechaare dubkiyan aate khaate hain Beh ja, beh ja, chal tod kinare ko Beh ja, beh ja, dhar le majdhare ko Chingari uda ke raakh se ik boondh gira ke aankh se While others have drown in the lady's love, this guy seems to be fighting to take control in order not to suffer the same fate. (Ok, my understanding of hindi might not be as good as I thought, so if I'm wrong here, please do correct me on it.) But yeah, with Behne De, I felt that the protagonist was making an effort to survive... On the other hand, with Usure Pogathey, the same forbidden love is associated with his destruction, and what's more, this was a destruction which he most welcomed. Notice these lines... Adi Thaeku Mara Kaadu Perusuthaan Chinna Theekuchi Osaram Sirusuthaan Oru Theekuchi Vizhunthu Pudikuthadi Karunthaekumara Kaadu Vedikuthadi In the above lines, he tells on how a small match stick is able to destroy a whole forest and on a later stage... paamba? vizhutha? oru pagupaadu theriyalaye, paamba irunthum nenjam bayappada nenaikkalaye In the beginning he was unsure if he's playing with a snake or a log. Nevertheless, though he later found that it was in fact a snake he
[arr] Re: I like Raavanan Music but I agree with those who don't like it as much
cool bro, i guess ur a Shreya fan. i love her voice too. but something in Khili
re, that Hindi words and Reena's voice sparked that magic that the Tamil
version didnt. no offence to the Tamil version, but i really wished Reena sang
the Tamil version too... hmmm she has a very unique voice
--- In arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com, Indmov Buff indmovb...@... wrote:
If I had to pick, I'd pick Kalvare over Khilli Re but Reena's vocals in the
latter is growing on me. I have to admit though that Shreya's voice just
takes the former to a completely different plane. Every line for her is sung
with several little nuances that make it more special for me.
Keda Kari = Kata Kata, for me. It would have been Keda Kari Kata Kata if it
had not been for Kunal. His voice in the latter together with Ila is just
amazing.
From: Dinesh Scaran dinesh.sca...@...
To: arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Sun, 9 May, 2010 6:03:39
Subject: Re: [arr] I like Raavanan Music but I agree with those who don't
like it as much
Who here agrees with me Khili Re sounds too, too amazing compared to Kalvare?
There is something about this girl's (Reena Baradwaj) voice that spelled
divine in this song. This feel is totally missing in Kalvare. So far after
good listens, my view is such :
Keda Kari Katha Katha
Kalvare Khili Re
so far im hooked to this songs, these songs r not letting me to get into the
other songs. waiting to move on to the other songs haha...
--- In arrahmanfans@ yahoogroups. com, Chander chandersai_ 2k@ wrote:
Heard the Tamil version,I found the lyrics just awful!
On 08/05/2010, at 11:02 AM, AJ purevibz@ . wrote:
Good thoughts, man. It's always healthy to see others' perspectives and to
try and understand different tastes. Good message.
--- In arrahmanfans@ yahoogroups. com, Indmov Buff indmovbuff@ wrote:
Nice one Suresh.
I guess Raavanan will always be considered a dubbed version because it
came after. I think if it was a soundtrack on it's own, people would have
appreciated the lyrics much much more than they are now.
_ _ __
From: sureshmechnit sureshmechnit@
To: arrahmanfans@ yahoogroups. com
Sent: Fri, 7 May, 2010 15:33:16
Subject: [arr] I like Raavanan Music but I agree with those who don't
like it as much
My thoughts
http://ursmusically .blogspot. com/2010/ 05/raavanan- soundtrack. html
Smile
Sureshkumar
Re: [arr] Re: I like Raavanan Music but I agree with those who don't like it as much
Agreed 200%... I love that gal's voice to death.. One of the most sweetest
voices I've ever heard! And yes.. for me, Khili Re is the One... the way she
sings Aaja Piya Aaja... just magical... kills me every time...
The search is more important than the destination
- a r rahman -
From: Dinesh Scaran dinesh.sca...@hotmail.com
To: arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Mon, 10 May, 2010 5:29:02 PM
Subject: [arr] Re: I like Raavanan Music but I agree with those who don't like
it as much
cool bro, i guess ur a Shreya fan. i love her voice too. but something in Khili
re, that Hindi words and Reena's voice sparked that magic that the Tamil
version didnt. no offence to the Tamil version, but i really wished Reena sang
the Tamil version too... hmmm she has a very unique voice
--- In arrahmanfans@ yahoogroups. com, Indmov Buff indmovbuff@ ... wrote:
If I had to pick, I'd pick Kalvare over Khilli Re but Reena's vocals in the
latter is growing on me. I have to admit though that Shreya's voice just
takes the former to a completely different plane. Every line for her is sung
with several little nuances that make it more special for me.
Keda Kari = Kata Kata, for me. It would have been Keda Kari Kata Kata if it
had not been for Kunal. His voice in the latter together with Ila is just
amazing.
_ _ __
From: Dinesh Scaran dinesh.scaran@ ...
To: arrahmanfans@ yahoogroups. com
Sent: Sun, 9 May, 2010 6:03:39
Subject: Re: [arr] I like Raavanan Music but I agree with those who don't
like it as much
Who here agrees with me Khili Re sounds too, too amazing compared to Kalvare?
There is something about this girl's (Reena Baradwaj) voice that spelled
divine in this song. This feel is totally missing in Kalvare. So far after
good listens, my view is such :
Keda Kari Katha Katha
Kalvare Khili Re
so far im hooked to this songs, these songs r not letting me to get into the
other songs. waiting to move on to the other songs haha...
--- In arrahmanfans@ yahoogroups. com, Chander chandersai_ 2k@ wrote:
Heard the Tamil version,I found the lyrics just awful!
On 08/05/2010, at 11:02 AM, AJ purevibz@ . wrote:
Good thoughts, man. It's always healthy to see others' perspectives and to
try and understand different tastes. Good message.
--- In arrahmanfans@ yahoogroups. com, Indmov Buff indmovbuff@ wrote:
Nice one Suresh.
I guess Raavanan will always be considered a dubbed version because it
came after. I think if it was a soundtrack on it's own, people would have
appreciated the lyrics much much more than they are now.
_ _ __
From: sureshmechnit sureshmechnit@
To: arrahmanfans@ yahoogroups. com
Sent: Fri, 7 May, 2010 15:33:16
Subject: [arr] I like Raavanan Music but I agree with those who don't
like it as much
My thoughts
http://ursmusically .blogspot. com/2010/ 05/raavanan- soundtrack. html
Smile
Sureshkumar
