[arr] Re: Ilayaraja takes a 'dig' at A R Rahman
"Ullagam ippo" was recorded long back 2008 before oscars, BAFTA and everything (see score sheet in the video), I don't know why anyone show draw lines. If "sorgame endralum" gets recorded today, it will sound the same. IR did say the saying is noble, but it is not right and he is not against any religion and don't make a fuss. Lot of articles just ignore that. You are taking about a person who ARR referred as a spiritual inspiration even today. He could have said a obligatory "he is great", but why a spiritual inspiration? Ok, don't jump on me, I am just clarifying things and not claiming everything IR said is right. But everyone need not be politically correct at the time, at least some can speck their mind. --- In arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com, Sath Murthy wrote: > > I totally agree with your points and view. > This was a part of my email that i wrote on Mar 03 09 after seeing the > felicitation function on TV that was organized by MD's association. > > > Everyone heaped praises on ARR IR speech was good, but it was > too confusing and i had a feeling that he was not open about a lot of > things (same like Kamal). He mentioned that "what awards will do > without composers?" What does he really mean by that? I felt that he > talked more about Balamuralikrishna than ARR > > There he said what awards will do without composers, now he says why should > anyone return the fame to God, when God himself gave that to a person.. > > I want to abide by those words of ARR "Don't abuse anyone". So i rest my case > here. > > Thanks > Sath Murthy. > > > > > > > > From: Aravind AM > To: arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com > Sent: Thursday, August 13, 2009 8:40:16 PM > Subject: Re: [arr] Ilayaraja takes a 'dig' at A R Rahman > > > Hi, > > While many of you were doubting the veracity of the cinesouth article, I had > no doubts IR had made those statements. Having been a hardcore Raja fan > before 1992, and having followed all his interviews, I am certain he would > make such jealous statements. This is not something new for him. IR has so > often in the past made absolutely ridiculous speeches, obnoxiously irritating > interviews hurting so many people in the process. In particular, I can never > forget one particular interview of Raja, hosted by veteran TV reporter > H.Ramakrishnan, in late 90s in Doordarshan, in which Raja was at his > irritating best, literally tormenting the interviewer. There was such > arrogance, I've never seen in any celebrity. That was when Iost my respect > for Raja, totally! How shocked I was back then, seeing my icon (till then) > behave in such an immature manner! > > A few years back, Kumudam too had a feature which compiled some of his > speeches, showing how irritating his speeches become. Why do you think so > many top directors and lyricists broke up with him? > > But, even I was waiting for more proof about the latest controversy, to write > to the group. Here it is - an article in Kumudam showing exactly what he said. > http://tinypic. com/r/65ubyf/ 3 > He did make those statements, and I'm not surprised he did. > > At first, I didn't want to write on this thread, as Rahman himself said in > his oscar feliciation speech about fans fighting. Didn't he say that why > should the fans fight, when he is so friendly with other everyone else? But, > IR himself is never party to such sentiments. IR is such a jealous > individual, that he said he has never heard of a song titled Chinna Chinna > Aasai at a time when Rahman was the toast of the nation! > > You should listen to the the song titled "Ulagam Ippo" written, composed and > sung by IR from the new album Azhagar Malai. IR's jealousy comes out clearly > in that. The song lyrics talks about how people leave the country for money > and that those people, though they may be rich, are mean and poor in his view > point! The lyrics further goes that world may change, people may go wherever, > but I'll stay here and serve the country. > > Rahman's world fame has woken up the beast of "jealousy against rahman" which > was sleeping within him, for sometime now! > > I'm not attacking him but merely retorting back, and clearing the > misconception that Raja is a saint! > > IR may be a genius, he may be a great composer, but when it comes to modesty, > level-headedness and humility, he is nowhere near Rahman sir! This is > cheapness to the core! > > I'm sure many are going to bounce on me, but I don't care. I'm writing this > from the bottom of my heart and I'm sure I'm not making a mistake! > > > > Aravind > > > > Rahmania show interviews: http://rahmania.4shared.com > > > > > --- On Thu, 13/8/09, Thulasi Ram wrote: > > > >From: Thulasi Ram > >Subject: Re: [arr] Ilayaraja takes a 'dig' at A R Rahman > >To: arrahmanfans@ yahoogroups. com > >Date: Thursday, 13 Au
[arr] Re: Ilayaraja takes a 'dig' at A R Rahman
straightforward and eye-opening reply. I support you Aravind! Regards Yogesh --- In arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com, Aravind AM wrote: > > Hi, > > While many of you were doubting the veracity of the cinesouth article, I had > no doubts IR had made those statements. Having been a hardcore Raja fan > before 1992, and having followed all his interviews, I am certain he would > make such jealous statements. This is not something new for him. IR has so > often in the past made absolutely ridiculous speeches, obnoxiously irritating > interviews hurting so many people in the process. In particular, I can never > forget one particular interview of Raja, hosted by veteran TV reporter > H.Ramakrishnan, in late 90s in Doordarshan, in which Raja was at his > irritating best, literally tormenting the interviewer. There was such > arrogance, I've never seen in any celebrity. That was when Iost my respect > for Raja, totally! How shocked I was back then, seeing my icon (till then) > behave in such an immature manner! > > A few years back, Kumudam too had a feature which compiled some of his > speeches, showing how irritating his speeches become. Why do you think so > many top directors and lyricists broke up with him? > > But, even I was waiting for more proof about the latest controversy, to write > to the group. Here it is - an article in Kumudam showing exactly what he said. > http://tinypic.com/r/65ubyf/3 > He did make those statements, and I'm not surprised he did. > > At first, I didn't want to write on this thread, as Rahman himself said in > his oscar feliciation speech about fans fighting. Didn't he say that why > should the fans fight, when he is so friendly with other everyone else? But, > IR himself is never party to such sentiments. IR is such a jealous > individual, that he said he has never heard of a song titled Chinna Chinna > Aasai at a time when Rahman was the toast of the nation! > > You should listen to the the song titled "Ulagam Ippo" written, composed and > sung by IR from the new album Azhagar Malai. IR's jealousy comes out clearly > in that. The song lyrics talks about how people leave the country for money > and that those people, though they may be rich, are mean and poor in his view > point! The lyrics further goes that world may change, people may go wherever, > but I'll stay here and serve the country. > > Rahman's world fame has woken up the beast of "jealousy against rahman" which > was sleeping within him, for sometime now! > > I'm not attacking him but merely retorting back, and clearing the > misconception that Raja is a saint! > > IR may be a genius, he may be a great composer, but when it comes to modesty, > level-headedness and humility, he is nowhere near Rahman sir! This is > cheapness to the core! > > I'm sure many are going to bounce on me, but I don't care. I'm writing this > from the bottom of my heart and I'm sure I'm not making a mistake! > > > Aravind > > > Rahmania show interviews: http://rahmania.4shared.com > > > > --- On Thu, 13/8/09, Thulasi Ram wrote: > > From: Thulasi Ram > Subject: Re: [arr] Ilayaraja takes a 'dig' at A R Rahman > To: arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com > Date: Thursday, 13 August, 2009, 6:32 PM > > > > > > > > > > > > > well that's true. but if there is a video v can actually be > the judge of what was said by whomever, instead of judging on these articles > which usually tend to magnify things. but, off late there are articles with > videos and v can relate to the tone of the interview or speech immediately. > > > > having said that, it is insane to talk anything indirectly against ARR as he > epitomizes genunity and purity. rather, one can be like Raadharavi and > atleast express their opinions directly rather than indirectly refering to > someone and acting like a egostic individual. > > > > On Thu, Aug 13, 2009 at 8:27 AM, Roshan wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > LOL. Well said. > > make up a story + create a hype = more visitors to their website = more > profit from ads. > > On Thu, Aug 13, 2009 at 5:25 AM, Ramesh R wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Standard operating procedure from a tabloid! > > > > > Publish a junk article with "he said, she said" accusations often entirely > made up by the tabloid or draw false conclusions > Wait and watch till article gets circulated around and talked about. > > > Show up for press conference when the persons concerned clarify that they > never said anything to that effect or were quoted out of context.Repeat step > 1. > > > > > > From: Bivin Chandra > > > > To: AR Fans group > Sent: Wednesday, August 12, 2009 8:40:37 AM > > > > Subject: [arr] Ilayaraja takes a 'dig' at A R Rahman > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
[arr] Re: Ilayaraja takes a 'dig' at A R Rahman
If there is a BASIC doubt whether Illiyaraaja indeed made these comments or not then better not to discuss about fiction in this forum. Evenif he made these statements and that too with ARR in mind, then also I feel we should not waste our time in commenting. Knowing that ARR himself will not react to it, why should we ? Best regards Dinesh Vaidya Pune --- In arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com, Bivin Chandra wrote: > > Kollywood observers feel that there has been a marked change in the > public conduct and speeches of 'Maestro' Ilaiyaraaja for the past few months. > The 'Isaignani', as he is popularly known, seldom involves himself in any > activities other than composing music and making a rare appearance at > functions. Of late, though, his speech appears to have been 'aimed' at having > a go at his peer and junior A.R. Rehman, his one-time keyboard player.
[arr] RE: Ilayaraja takes a 'dig' at A R Rahman
ha ha ha ha// please listen to the song Yendhan Desathin Kural from the movie Dhesam...Whererever the bird flies it will come back to its nest... It was sung By our Boss Rahman too I love u rahman too... If possible ask the person who comment to listen to this song too.. -- Posted by: "Bivin Chandra" bivinchan...@yahoo.combivinchandra Wed Aug 12, 2009 1:50 pm(PDT) Kollywood observers feel that there has been a marked change in the public conduct and speeches of 'Maestro' Ilaiyaraaja for the past few months. The 'Isaignani', as he is popularly known, seldom involves himself in any activities other than composing music and making a rare appearance at functions. Of late, though, his speech appears to have been 'aimed' at having a go at his peer and junior A.R. Rehman, his one-time keyboard player. For the first time in more than three decades of his musical sojourn, Ilaiyaraaja has appeared in an entire song in his recent film 'Azhagarmalai' . The melodious title song in the film not only features him but also is sung by the Maestro himself. Even the lyrics were penned by himself and had lines such as "whosoever wishes to go away from this country may do as they please; I would remain here forever in the service of my people". These lines could be taken as against no particular individual; but his recent remarks at an event to launch a carnatic music-based album were unmistakable. Speaking at the launch, Ilaiyaraaja said that "Some persons claim that all the fame 'goes' to the Lord. This is wrong; why would be a God be in need of fame. Isn't He the one who showers on us fame and popularity and money? How can we 'return' to Him the fame given to us by Him? It won't be proper at all!"While all these queries raised by the Maestromight sound genuine, the reference to the man is unmistakable. When even a child knows that it's Rahman's popular habit to admit on stages that "all fame goes to the Lord", it's highly surprising as to what the Maestro expected the people to think of his reported remarks! http://www.chennaio nline.com/ film/news/ Aug09/89Isaignan i-takes-a- dig-at-A- R-Rahman. aspx
