Re: [arr] Time gap between albums

2008-06-19 Thread Shah Navas
I disagree Vithur. The logic is flawed. Anybody can find the links
themselves with the growing power of google.
May be 2 or 3 students can buy an album and share. That again is a form of
piracy. We are too far off hitting the right model.

On Wed, Jun 18, 2008 at 11:05 PM, Vithur [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

   Hi Aravind

 I agree with you. But its not in ARR 's hands. People who want to buy will
 anyway buy arguing with parents, though not good in one sense.

 I think, downloading for College students, and people who are still
 dependents can be allowed...

 Though , they should refrain themselves from passing on the links to others





 On Wed, Jun 18, 2008 at 10:45 PM, Aravind AM [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Hi, Just a thought here - I feel there should be sufficient time gap
 between 2 ARR releases... Though we feel elated on getting two albums
 separated by a few days, we should also look at the other side of the
 coin... one ARR album cannibalises the sales of the other one Two albums
 in one month (let alone in 1 day) will not be affordable to all. Not many
 would want to spend on two albums in one month Moreover, there are lots
 of students who are ARR fans, and they can't afford 2 albums. And of course,
 they can't wait... They download MP3s, and once they get MP3s, they never
 buy the album.. I know at least 4 friends of mine who are students, who used
 to buy all of ARR CDs. They couldnt afford both Ada and JTYJN, so they
 bought just JTYJN Reason: parents object to 2 albums in a month! These
 are no isolated cases, and i guess this must be happening everywhere... On a
 similar note, two movies of the same lead-actor never release on the same
 day. If two films of an actor are ready for release at about the same time,
 the producers of the two films negotiate and one of them postpones the
 release by a few weeks I've seen that happen many times in tamil film
 industry. Similarly, can't ARR can also intervene in audio release dates?
 I'm sure he will hav that much influence... Just my two cents.. Aravind




 --
 regards,
 Vithur

 HELP EVER; HURT NEVER;
 LOVE ALL; SERVE ALL
 



[arr] Time gap between albums

2008-06-18 Thread Aravind AM
Hi,

Just a thought here - I feel there should be sufficient time gap between 2 ARR 
releases... Though we feel elated on getting two albums separated by a few 
days, we should also look at the other side of the coin...  one ARR album 
cannibalises the sales of the other one


Two albums in one month (let alone in 1 day) will not be affordable to all. Not 
many would want to spend on two albums in one month Moreover, there are 
lots of students who are ARR fans, and they can't afford 2 albums. And of 
course, they can't wait... They download MP3s, and once they get MP3s, they 
never buy the album..

 I know at least 4 friends of mine who are students, who used to buy all of ARR 
CDs. They couldnt afford both Ada and JTYJN, so they bought just JTYJN 
Reason: parents object to 2 albums in a month! These are no isolated cases, and 
i guess this must be happening everywhere...

On a similar note, two movies of the same lead-actor never release on the same 
day. If two films of an actor are ready for release at about the same time, the 
producers of the two films negotiate and one of them postpones the release by a 
few weeks I've seen that happen many times in tamil film industry.

Similarly, can't ARR can also intervene in audio release dates? I'm sure he 
will hav that much influence...

Just my two cents..


Aravind




  

Re: [arr] Time gap between albums

2008-06-18 Thread Vithur
Hi Aravind

I agree with you. But its not in ARR 's hands. People who want to buy will
anyway buy arguing with parents, though not good in one sense.

I think, downloading for College students, and people who are still
dependents can be allowed...

Though , they should refrain themselves from passing on the links to others




On Wed, Jun 18, 2008 at 10:45 PM, Aravind AM [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Hi, Just a thought here - I feel there should be sufficient time gap
 between 2 ARR releases... Though we feel elated on getting two albums
 separated by a few days, we should also look at the other side of the
 coin... one ARR album cannibalises the sales of the other one Two albums
 in one month (let alone in 1 day) will not be affordable to all. Not many
 would want to spend on two albums in one month Moreover, there are lots
 of students who are ARR fans, and they can't afford 2 albums. And of course,
 they can't wait... They download MP3s, and once they get MP3s, they never
 buy the album.. I know at least 4 friends of mine who are students, who used
 to buy all of ARR CDs. They couldnt afford both Ada and JTYJN, so they
 bought just JTYJN Reason: parents object to 2 albums in a month! These
 are no isolated cases, and i guess this must be happening everywhere... On a
 similar note, two movies of the same lead-actor never release on the same
 day. If two films of an actor are ready for release at about the same time,
 the producers of the two films negotiate and one of them postpones the
 release by a few weeks I've seen that happen many times in tamil film
 industry. Similarly, can't ARR can also intervene in audio release dates?
 I'm sure he will hav that much influence... Just my two cents.. Aravind
 




-- 
regards,
Vithur

HELP EVER; HURT NEVER;
LOVE ALL; SERVE ALL


Re: [arr] Time gap between albums

2008-06-18 Thread Aravind AM
I agree that the release day is not totally in ARR's hands.. but, he can at 
least talk to the producers... for that matter, even the audio rights owners 
(the music label companies) can negotiate among themselves to avoid close 
releases!

My point is that students who would have otherwise bought the album, dont buy 
it because of this reason!


http://arrahmaniac.blogspot.com


--- On Wed, 6/18/08, Vithur [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
From: Vithur [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [arr] Time gap between albums
To: arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com
Date: Wednesday, June 18, 2008, 11:05 PM











Hi Aravind
 
I agree with you. But its not in ARR 's hands. People who want to buy will 
anyway buy arguing with parents, though not good in one sense. 
 
I think, downloading for College students, and people who are still dependents 
can be allowed... 
 
Though , they should refrain themselves from passing on the links to others 
 


 
On Wed, Jun 18, 2008 at 10:45 PM, Aravind AM [EMAIL PROTECTED] com wrote:










Hi, Just a thought here - I feel there should be sufficient time gap between 2 
ARR releases... Though we feel elated on getting two albums separated by a few 
days, we should also look at the other side of the coin... one ARR album 
cannibalises the sales of the other one Two albums in one month (let alone 
in 1 day) will not be affordable to all. Not many would want to spend on two 
albums in one month Moreover, there are lots of students who are ARR fans, 
and they can't afford 2 albums. And of course, they can't wait... They download 
MP3s, and once they get MP3s, they never buy the album.. I know at least 4 
friends of mine who are students, who used to buy all of ARR CDs. They couldnt 
afford both Ada and JTYJN, so they bought just JTYJN Reason: parents object 
to 2 albums in a month! These are no isolated cases, and i guess this must be 
happening everywhere.. . On a similar note, two movies of the same lead-actor 
never release on the same day.
 If two films of an actor are ready for release at about the same time, the 
producers of the two films negotiate and one of them postpones the release by a 
few weeks I've seen that happen many times in tamil film industry. 
Similarly, can't ARR can also intervene in audio release dates? I'm sure he 
will hav that much influence... Just my two cents.. Aravind 

 


-- 
regards,
Vithur


HELP EVER; HURT NEVER;
LOVE ALL; SERVE ALL 

  




 

















  

Re: [arr] Time gap between albums

2008-06-18 Thread Adi
Nice thread here. Will add my two cents.

Actually the music label companies should negotiate with each other to be
sensible business-wise. They are eating into each other's pie here.
Unknowingly, somewhere this kind of thing also supports piracy I guess.

I think that the cost of the music CDs should be reduced to Rs. 50/- or
thereabouts. This way the dependable youth can buy three music CDs for the
cost of one and also have the satisfaction of having the original (ADA
costed Rs. 160/- if I remember right). This results in a low-margin (the
margin would still be around 50% though [not considering distribution
costs]) high-volume game for the music owners without having to compromise
on the release dates and also avoid piracy. Thus it would be two birds with
one arrow to quote a cliche! :)

Love,
Adi.

On Thu, Jun 19, 2008 at 8:29 AM, Aravind AM [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

   I agree that the release day is not totally in ARR's hands.. but, he can
 at least talk to the producers... for that matter, even the audio rights
 owners (the music label companies) can negotiate among themselves to avoid
 close releases!

 My point is that students who would have otherwise bought the album, dont
 buy it because of this reason!


 http://arrahmaniac.blogspot.com


 --- On *Wed, 6/18/08, Vithur [EMAIL PROTECTED]* wrote:

 From: Vithur [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: Re: [arr] Time gap between albums
 To: arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com
 Date: Wednesday, June 18, 2008, 11:05 PM

  Hi Aravind

 I agree with you. But its not in ARR 's hands. People who want to buy will
 anyway buy arguing with parents, though not good in one sense.

 I think, downloading for College students, and people who are still
 dependents can be allowed...

 Though , they should refrain themselves from passing on the links to others





 On Wed, Jun 18, 2008 at 10:45 PM, Aravind AM [EMAIL PROTECTED] com[EMAIL 
 PROTECTED]
 wrote:

 Hi, Just a thought here - I feel there should be sufficient time gap
 between 2 ARR releases... Though we feel elated on getting two albums
 separated by a few days, we should also look at the other side of the
 coin... one ARR album cannibalises the sales of the other one Two albums
 in one month (let alone in 1 day) will not be affordable to all. Not many
 would want to spend on two albums in one month Moreover, there are lots
 of students who are ARR fans, and they can't afford 2 albums. And of course,
 they can't wait... They download MP3s, and once they get MP3s, they never
 buy the album.. I know at least 4 friends of mine who are students, who used
 to buy all of ARR CDs. They couldnt afford both Ada and JTYJN, so they
 bought just JTYJN Reason: parents object to 2 albums in a month! These
 are no isolated cases, and i guess this must be happening everywhere.. . On
 a similar note, two movies of the same lead-actor never release on the same
 day. If two films of an actor are ready for release at about the same time,
 the producers of the two films negotiate and one of them postpones the
 release by a few weeks I've seen that happen many times in tamil film
 industry. Similarly, can't ARR can also intervene in audio release dates?
 I'm sure he will hav that much influence... Just my two cents.. Aravind




 --
 regards,
 Vithur

 HELP EVER; HURT NEVER;
 LOVE ALL; SERVE ALL


  




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