Re: [arr] My blogpost on the CWG theme song

2010-09-03 Thread diya
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> I love the Theme, because it has a correct balance between every Indian 
> actual values that are emotions, expectations, development (which recall 
> history from sadness to joy), respect, belief, proudness and the wishes of 
> success and establishment which is India's main force today. It is a very 
> intelligent theme, each sound gives me so many feel.
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> Sorry for my long comment, I could not stop when I write about India and ARR. 
> Take care. Serge BELIER
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> To: arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com
> From: gayathri_c...@...
> Date: Fri, 3 Sep 2010 01:02:55 -0700
> Subject: Re: [arr] My blogpost on the CWG theme song
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> It was a wonderful article Diya. Though I did not agree with some of your 
> points, I must say that I thoroughly enjoyed reading the same. Left a comment 
> on your blog too. Hope to hear a lot more from you in the near future. 
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> Regards.
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> --- On Thu, 9/2/10, diya  wrote:
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> From: diya 
> Subject: [arr] My blogpost on the CWG theme song
> To: arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com
> Date: Thursday, September 2, 2010, 6:25 PM
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> Hi all,
> 
> Here's a post I wrote about compiling all that I have to say about this 
> entire CWG issue. It includes some of the things I have already written in 
> the mails, so if you have read them, feel free to ignore this post, it might 
> be a repetition :) 
> 
> And it's strictly a personal opinion, so I know some of you will disagree. 
> That is totally fine. If you read and have anything to say, do leave a 
> comment there.
> 
> Thanks!
> 
> http://diyaiit.wordpress.com/2010/09/03/the-cwg-theme-song-and-the-upheaval-surrounding-it/
> 
> Diya
>




RE: [arr] My blogpost on the CWG theme song

2010-09-03 Thread s03g373 s03g373


Hello Diya, it was nice to read your article, but there is one thing on which I 
don't agree. According to you, people who like this theme are ARR fans who like 
whatever music he composes, am I right? (even if I am wrong please continue 
your reading)

 

I am a huge fan of ARR following his music since the beginning (Roja), whether 
it is now or in the 90s, I never liked every songs ARR had composed. This does 
not mean that the songs were not good, maybe somebody else liked it very much, 
it was only the fact that it was not my taste. So please don't underestimate 
ARR fans concluding that they likes everything he composes blindly just because 
they are mad fans. 
For example, I did not like Rukumani song from Roja, I did not like most of 
Kizhakku Chimayilae movie songs, Pettai Rap from Kadhalan was not my favorite 
as well, I did not like Mastam song from Yuvraaj, and many others... I never 
said that these songs were good. When somebody ask me "who composed it? it is 
so bad!", It was uneasy for me to answer, that's all. 

 

Having said this, for me ARR remains the best musician in India in his domain 
(I like all kind of music except Rap style, you can not compare ARR with Zakir 
Hussain, L.Subramaniam, etc... ARR can not play like them and they can not 
compose like ARR) but in the cinefield area he is the Number 1.

 

If this theme was used in a movie, maybe people would have said that it is 
good, but people say that the theme is not good in front of what it should have 
been according to their own expectation, their own conception of a theme that 
should represent India. Maybe they wanted something as usual with lots of noise 
as the Shakira one...Easy to do !
But, according to me, ARR vision for India were surely different, India being 
the country with lots of history, culture, respect and passion. A country where 
even today people respect the elders (respect the parents, the teachers, the 
Gods), a country which has many beliefs and values which is not the case in 
other countries. Did people expect a theme song with a indian woman dancing 
like shakira ? Remember, all songs or theme that ARR has composed for the 
Nation has always been deep and slow with lots of emotions (Taj Mahal 
promotional theme "one love", "Yeh Jo Desh" song from Swades, except Vande 
Mataram).

 

For example, none other instrument in the world can give you the touching 
feeling as the one of the Sitar sound. This sound can give you tears, it is 
really full of sentiments, even foreigners can connect with it. Sitar sound is 
the one which represent India to its best, did people expect a Ravi Shankar 
style music as a CWG Anthem, no I don't thing so.

What about "Yeh Jo Desh Hai Tera" song from Swades which was a big hit, it is 
even slower comparing to the actual theme to represent the Games. Yes it is a 
very though challenge to compose one music that represent India, it is very 
easy to compose a song like the Shakira's one, but India has so many diversity 
that it is completely impossible.

 

Taking into account all this, ARR Theme is the more appropriate one has it 
starts slowly which reflects the emotional part of Indians (every Indian is 
sensible, very sensible, indian culture is based on sensibilities and ARR is 
very sensible and emotional when it regards India) and then continue higher and 
higher progressively to end with Banghra sound fulfilling in this way the 
required energy representing the Games. 

 

I love the Theme, because it has a correct balance between every Indian actual 
values that are emotions, expectations, development (which recall history from 
sadness to joy), respect, belief, proudness and the wishes of success and 
establishment which is India's main force today. It is a very intelligent 
theme, each sound gives me so many feel.

 

Sorry for my long comment, I could not stop when I write about India and ARR. 
Take care. Serge BELIER

 


To: arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com
From: gayathri_c...@yahoo.com
Date: Fri, 3 Sep 2010 01:02:55 -0700
Subject: Re: [arr] My blogpost on the CWG theme song












It was a wonderful article Diya. Though I did not agree with some of your 
points, I must say that I thoroughly enjoyed reading the same. Left a comment 
on your blog too. Hope to hear a lot more from you in the near future. 

Regards.

--- On Thu, 9/2/10, diya  wrote:


From: diya 
Subject: [arr] My blogpost on the CWG theme song
To: arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com
Date: Thursday, September 2, 2010, 6:25 PM


  

Hi all,

Here's a post I wrote about compiling all that I have to say about this entire 
CWG issue. It includes some of the things I have already written in the mails, 
so if you have read them, feel free to ignore this post, it might be a 
repetition :) 

And it's strictly a personal opinion, so I know some of you will disagree. That 
is totally fine. If you read and have anything to say,

Re: [arr] My blogpost on the CWG theme song

2010-09-03 Thread diya
Thanks Gayathri. I definitely appreciate different views and would be happy to 
know your opinion on this as well.

Thanks again.

--- In arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com, Gayathri Chandrakasan  
wrote:
>
> It was a wonderful article Diya. Though I did not agree with some of your 
> points, I must say that I thoroughly enjoyed reading the same. Left a comment 
> on your blog too. Hope to hear a lot more from you in the near future. 
> 
> Regards.
> 
> --- On Thu, 9/2/10, diya  wrote:
> 
> From: diya 
> Subject: [arr] My blogpost on the CWG theme song
> To: arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com
> Date: Thursday, September 2, 2010, 6:25 PM
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>   Hi all,
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> 
> Here's a post I wrote about compiling all that I have to say about this 
> entire CWG issue. It includes some of the things I have already written in 
> the mails, so if you have read them, feel free to ignore this post, it might 
> be a repetition :) 
> 
> 
> 
> And it's strictly a personal opinion, so I know some of you will disagree. 
> That is totally fine. If you read and have anything to say, do leave a 
> comment there.
> 
> 
> 
> Thanks!
> 
> 
> 
> http://diyaiit.wordpress.com/2010/09/03/the-cwg-theme-song-and-the-upheaval-surrounding-it/
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> 
> Diya
>




Re: [arr] My blogpost on the CWG theme song

2010-09-03 Thread diya
Thanks for your reply! Disagreements are of course welcome!

About the statement:
"That “fairly good” is unacceptable from someone like ARR. Only  
masterpieces 
that transcend human imagination deserve to be associated  with his name!"

It is my interpretation of all the criticism of his music. Pressure yes, unfair 
too, but remember Rahman has lived upto these expectations time and again 
barring very few exceptions. If you constantly live upto sky high expectations, 
people will continue to expect the impossible from you :) I view high 
expectations as a mark of respect and trust.

If you genuinely like the CWG song, great! 

To be frank I am not too concerned with the media bashing and stuff, ARR is too 
above all this for me! What concerns me is that I and many other music 
listeners feel it's missing the ARR magic. Good song, but not divine!

--- In arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com, Arr Fan  wrote:
>
> Diya - 
> 
> Nicely written. But, I feel that we put undue pressure on the maestro with 
> the 
> below statement. 
> 
>  That “fairly good” is unacceptable from someone like ARR. Only  
> masterpieces 
> that transcend human imagination deserve to be associated  with his name!
> 
> 
> I am one of those who like CWG theme song... didn't have to force myself to 
> like 
> it. Listened few times on my iPod and bingo!
> 
> Few more points
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>   * In one of the news conferences - ARR requested Media to write all the 
> good 
> work that went into organizing CWG. They didn't take it well that minute and 
> I 
> see that current media bashing is a result of it.
>   * To me, the song actually starts after the guitar - I liked the way 
> both 
> guitar and sitar are blended. 
> 
> The only problem to me is the pace and missing layers. As you rightly pointed 
> out, it looks like he was asked to slow down & remove noisy layers
> 
> Cheers,
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> From: diya 
> To: arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com
> Sent: Thu, September 2, 2010 6:25:18 PM
> Subject: [arr] My blogpost on the CWG theme song
> 
>
> Hi all,
> 
> Here's a post I wrote about compiling all that I have to say about this 
> entire 
> CWG issue. It includes some of the things I have already written in the 
> mails, 
> so if you have read them, feel free to ignore this post, it might be a 
> repetition :) 
> 
> 
> And it's strictly a personal opinion, so I know some of you will disagree. 
> That 
> is totally fine. If you read and have anything to say, do leave a comment 
> there.
> 
> Thanks!
> 
> http://diyaiit.wordpress.com/2010/09/03/the-cwg-theme-song-and-the-upheaval-surrounding-it/
> 
> 
> Diya
>




Re: [arr] My blogpost on the CWG theme song

2010-09-03 Thread Gayathri Chandrakasan
It was a wonderful article Diya. Though I did not agree with some of your 
points, I must say that I thoroughly enjoyed reading the same. Left a comment 
on your blog too. Hope to hear a lot more from you in the near future. 

Regards.

--- On Thu, 9/2/10, diya  wrote:

From: diya 
Subject: [arr] My blogpost on the CWG theme song
To: arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com
Date: Thursday, September 2, 2010, 6:25 PM







 



  



  
  
  Hi all,



Here's a post I wrote about compiling all that I have to say about this entire 
CWG issue. It includes some of the things I have already written in the mails, 
so if you have read them, feel free to ignore this post, it might be a 
repetition :) 



And it's strictly a personal opinion, so I know some of you will disagree. That 
is totally fine. If you read and have anything to say, do leave a comment there.



Thanks!



http://diyaiit.wordpress.com/2010/09/03/the-cwg-theme-song-and-the-upheaval-surrounding-it/



Diya






 





 



  






  

Re: [arr] My blogpost on the CWG theme song

2010-09-03 Thread Arr Fan
Diya - 

Nicely written. But, I feel that we put undue pressure on the maestro with the 
below statement. 

 That “fairly good” is unacceptable from someone like ARR. Only  masterpieces 
that transcend human imagination deserve to be associated  with his name!


I am one of those who like CWG theme song... didn't have to force myself to 
like 
it. Listened few times on my iPod and bingo!

Few more points

* In one of the news conferences - ARR requested Media to write all the 
good 
work that went into organizing CWG. They didn't take it well that minute and I 
see that current media bashing is a result of it.
* To me, the song actually starts after the guitar - I liked the way 
both 
guitar and sitar are blended. 

The only problem to me is the pace and missing layers. As you rightly pointed 
out, it looks like he was asked to slow down & remove noisy layers

Cheers,




From: diya 
To: arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Thu, September 2, 2010 6:25:18 PM
Subject: [arr] My blogpost on the CWG theme song

   
Hi all,

Here's a post I wrote about compiling all that I have to say about this entire 
CWG issue. It includes some of the things I have already written in the mails, 
so if you have read them, feel free to ignore this post, it might be a 
repetition :) 


And it's strictly a personal opinion, so I know some of you will disagree. That 
is totally fine. If you read and have anything to say, do leave a comment there.

Thanks!

http://diyaiit.wordpress.com/2010/09/03/the-cwg-theme-song-and-the-upheaval-surrounding-it/


Diya