RE: [arr] Re: ARRMUSIC! (a possible answer to spiteful badmouthing of ARR)

2005-05-25 Thread Arijit Debnath



No doubt what huge ability ARR has to compose every situations. I can draw ur attention to a piece from Sapney---the song is "Chanda re chanda re"if u watch that songthere is a moment when sadhna started singing and in the movie Kajol wants to lean on Prabhudevaand prabhu is refusing her at that pointand the at that moment the music is so beautifulone cant appreciate until looking at it.



One more effect called Dopler effect in physics is used in the song "yunhi chala chal rahi song"I dont know whether u've noticed or not---when at the ending of the song the other cars from opposite going thru, and clear dopler effect is created by ARR. But missing those little gems here and there in every bit of Swadesh if someone rate that album as average, then it is really sad---not for us, but for him only.

Arijit

Dasun Abeysekera [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:



Absolutely beautiful writing! My hat is off to you, I know you are a true fan of ARR and you are blessed to understand and feel his music at such a deep level. I have always felt what you have expressed so eloquently, and to people who say, Boss is losing his touch, I can only have symapthy, because you do not have the sense to appreciate such genius. The past 10 years, I have grown as a person just by listening to ARR's music and trying to understand what it takes to have his spirit and understandingof human emotions, life and philosphy.LikeRano had once mentioned, it is that state of mind that brings those exquisite music to us. It is unparalleled as far as I can see andcannot be copied!
I was just listening to 'Hai Na' the other day as finally I can understand the entire meaning of the song (ARRs music made me strive to understand Hindi and Tamil both..and I'm on my way; I'm Sinhalese by the way). Ikeep thinking howARR feels Zubeidaa'sstate of mind at the point of the song, her youthful excitement at having found true love..he captures all that just in thenon-verbal phrase "hHai re Hai reHai re Hai re Hai." I can feel that in the song after watching the movie, but just imagine for a person to get into that character's emotions and put it into music before seeing the movie just based on something that is narrated to him...that is just out of this world! 
Again, thank you for writing this and I hope it opens at least a few minds in our group. I had tears in my eyes after reading this. Beautiful man. Please do share a little about you, most importantly,your name :) Take care.
Hail ARR!
Regards and best wishes.
DasunFrom: "ST" [EMAIL PROTECTED]Reply-To: arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.comTo: arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.comSubject: [arr] Re: ARRMUSIC!(a possible answer to spiteful badmouthing of ARR)Date: Mon, 23 May 2005 03:45:23 -Fellow ARR Fans (especially taurus8_0)In response to your rightful concern and comments about the directionof ARR music in recent times, I have few comments that you may (or maynot) agree with. Everyone has their own reason for remaining a truefan of ARR. Here is mine.To me, the box office results in no way represent the quality of themovie or the talent of its producers. Many fantastic peices of workhave bombed, and besides the odd ones like Laagan, ones that do wellhave little more than the classic bollywood story and style to offer.If it were not for ARR and very few other
 talented actors anddirectors, I would not be paying attention to bollywood films ormusic! And by same reason I do pay attention to ARR's tamil albums,despite being a Northie.Clearly, popular music in no way exacts musical talent. The beats andmelody (if even) are purely icing that fade away sooner than thecommercials promoting them. What I find most shameful about theindustry is that 95% of the tunes are 1) unoriginal and repetitive oftheir older work and/or 2) blatantly stolen under the ideal of"inspired from.." and/or 3) of same or similar style with differentinstruments, arrangement, and singers and( either 4. lack the thenotes that press the right keys to convey the right emotions OR 5.posses the notes to convey an emotion, however those that have becometoo obvious in the industry i.e. lack the range OR 6. do this jobwell, and I respect those rare
 few, but lack the magical x-factor thatARR has proved to be carrying since Roja )ARR's music, on the other hand, provides purity and shows integrity.First time I listen to any piece it is like an enigma. To an untrainedear like mine, it is a partial blurr. As I listen to it over and over,I uncover to more and more depth, what he is trying to convey in thesong. The instruments, musical arrangement, background track, range ofmelodies, novelty of the overall work, and the special something healways fills up in the middle of the track. The more I hear, the moreI discover what I was missing or misinterpreting when I had heard itbefore. It is a well known phenomenon that some or most of ARR's songsget better over time.

Re: [arr] Re: ARRMUSIC! (a possible answer to spiteful badmouthing of ARR)

2005-05-24 Thread charles e
I agree to your comments, but Titan Ad was lifted from
MOZART_SYMPHONY NO 25.It is not AR's original tune.

Charles
--- pravindersheoran [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
 those who say that rahman doent have any new tunes
 or stuff like that
 
 plese listen to BOSE : THE FORGOTTEN HERO
 
 in one piece he has performed the muslim's prayer
 exactly the way it 
 should be (ZIKR)
 in the second piece he has performed same music as
 is requred for 
 durga pooja(durga pooja theme)
 
 in another piece he has given a lullaby in same
 style as is required 
 
 what else do u require 
 what else should be the potential in a MD who is
 exactly giving same 
 music as is required by the situation
 
 can they forget the music of TITAN AD 
 or AIRTEL AD
 
 pleses think before u write
 
 bye
 
 
 
 --- In arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com, Dasun
 Abeysekera [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 wrote:
  
 
 
 
 
 



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Re: [arr] Re: ARRMUSIC! (a possible answer to spiteful badmouthing of ARR)

2005-05-23 Thread Prakash Arunachalam



Dear Buddy,

This is 100% what I feel. I would also like to add one more thing... for heaven sake don't say Meenaxi and BOSE are a average... these both albums are masterpiece. These two are great examples.. which proves that our BOSS is extraordinary and his music is immortal. I used to listen to these albums almost daily.. but still I find something new in it... and which cannot me explained in words... its some short of feelings where the language becomes handicapped. 

Plese no more post like this... saying our BOSS has lost his touch... rather I would say he is improving day by day and now there is no one here to review his music.

Vande Mathram.
-PrakashST [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Fellow ARR Fans (especially taurus8_0)In response to your rightful concern and comments about the directionof ARR music in recent times, I have few comments that you may (or maynot) agree with. Everyone has their own reason for remaining a truefan of ARR. Here is mine.To me, the box office results in no way represent the quality of themovie or the talent of its producers. Many fantastic peices of workhave bombed, and besides the odd ones like Laagan, ones that do wellhave little more than the classic bollywood story and style to offer.If it were not for ARR and very few other talented actors anddirectors, I would not be paying attention to bollywood films ormusic! And by same reason I do pay attention to ARR's tamil albums,despite being a Northie.Clearly, popular music in no way exacts musical talent. The beats
 andmelody (if even) are purely icing that fade away sooner than thecommercials promoting them. What I find most shameful about theindustry is that 95% of the tunes are 1) unoriginal and repetitive oftheir older work and/or 2) blatantly stolen under the ideal of"inspired from.." and/or 3) of same or similar style with differentinstruments, arrangement, and singers and ( either 4. lack the thenotes that press the right keys to convey the right emotions OR 5.posses the notes to convey an emotion, however those that have becometoo obvious in the industry i.e. lack the range OR 6. do this jobwell, and I respect those rare few, but lack the magical x-factor thatARR has proved to be carrying since Roja ) ARR's music, on the other hand, provides purity and shows integrity.First time I listen to any piece it is like an enigma. To an untrainedear like mine, it is a partial blurr. As I listen to it over and over,I uncover to
 more and more depth, what he is trying to convey in thesong. The instruments, musical arrangement, background track, range ofmelodies, novelty of the overall work, and the special something healways fills up in the middle of the track. The more I hear, the moreI discover what I was missing or misinterpreting when I had heard itbefore. It is a well known phenomenon that some or most of ARR's songsget better over time. And I remember reading his interview once wherehe provided a possible explanation saying that because they aregenerally completely new tunes and melodies that people have notimagined before, it takes time to digest.Now, as for the criticizm of his recent works, I say that those whofind his recent efforts repetitive and unattractive just dontunderstand music to a level that is required to appreciate ARR. In hisearlier days, when he came out with Roja, Thiruta Thiruda, Rangeela,Bombay, etc.. people cherished them
 because they were very differentlycomposed to what they had been hearing for years, and in a good way. Idoubt the entire fan base understood the elegance of his composition.Those that did (like us ofcourse ) are still his grateful fans. Westill appreciate his talents and by no means are we blind worshipers.Blind are those who can not see the beauty in ARR's work.I concede that not all of his works appear attractive, original, andof the standard he has set himself. In my experience what appearstoday does not stand true for ARR's music tomorrow. And one morething, the same kind of songs that people pick-out to badmouth himtoday were being produced in his early days also. E.g. Patti rap -Muqabla, Jor Laaga - Chor Chor, Jo manga tha - Kabhi na Khabhi. But after listening to them many times over the years I have realisedeven those that dont seem attractive on the surface possess ARR's rawtalent, in some form or
 other.As for the recent works, do they not carry the genius of ARR? Someexamples..picking out 2-3 at random from these recent albums.DJAK- Jane Bahara - Listen to it in the right mood it will arouse uniquefeelings that is the mark of ARR sice Roja..also heads up to thelyrics (at some places). Can anyone else end a song as smoothly asthis?- Zindagi hai dua - forget the vocals and focus on theinstrumentation.. just that use of greekish guitar with piano is theproof of his super talent.Lakeer  - Saadiya - "saadiya saadiya saadiya haai.." you dont findoriginality and talent in this? the way "naino ke shishe me saya haikiska, luk chup ke chanda ke jaisa.. kashti yeh dil, kehti hai