Re:[arr] ARRs focus on solo instruments-overdoing on INDIAN MUSIC?

2008-06-05 Thread Indmov Buff
Because your (south indian) music knowledge is much much greater than all of 
ours put
together I have great faith in your taste and would like to know who
this Raghuman you are referring to?

Your insults to R-a-h-m-a-n looks more like something that's coming out of 
frustration due to the lack of Illaiyaraja in H/Bollywood. Btw, Rahman does not 
need to be faithful to anyone or any fanbase. He only needs to be faithful to 
MUSIC and he's doing a damn good job of that. If you think he's not delivering 
in the tamil industry as he did in the 90s then you were never a Rahman fan. 
You were only a fan of the new sensation that his music brought you in the 90s. 
So just grow up!

On Thu, 6/5/08, [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re:[arr] ARRs focus on solo instruments-overdoing on INDIAN MUSIC?
To: arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com
Date: Thursday, June 5, 2008, 6:48 AM













Friends i feel sorry to say this. CHord please stop as you said you know lot 
about INDIAN MUSIC. be realistic &amp; true to yourself. are you for 
raghuman or for yourself just to do more posts &amp; over do. by limited 
writing you wont lose importance. It looks pity. by over &amp; over 
highlighting on same things you want to see posts-like from ricky pc speak for 
other mds &amp; finally tapey falling into ilayaraja groove. Chord you are 
the one coming with music by other mds &amp; as part of music lovers 
universally no one will deny if you wanna speak on other mds.



My mom 

who is singing for Bharata Natyam performances asking this guy Chord to 

elaborate on beautiful Padams &amp; Javalis please, as he claimed, know 

lot about Indian Music ?  She is laughing at this guy of suddenly putting 
raghuman in high spirits as no other person in indian music &amp; another 
day he bbrings in many recommendations for some old &amp; new music of 
other mds he finds special in it only to insist not in raghumans. To keep on 
insisting, this is it, this is 

not, with their [know lot about INDIAN MUSIC attitude]&nbsp; shows 

only immaturity with lack of exposure on INDIAN MUSIC BLENDED WITH CULTURES. if 
you want to claim anything kindly add [to my limited knowledge on hindi music 
&amp; genres].

 

human minds are in sick arrangement when 

it finds something new &amp; irresistible it is ready to throw other 

things&nbsp; without realizing its existed value be it music or be crazy 
writing to forums to gain importance only to be seen obsessed.

if i&nbsp;listen to&nbsp;certain composers, in certain languages 
&amp; certain genres, i cannot put views in public with a bold claim [i know

lot about INDIAN MUSIC &amp; this is it], to my limited exposure. both

old &amp; new worlds music has provided us&nbsp;gems with 
various&nbsp; musicians

in many genres.

&nbsp;

dear friend for dance performances she used to give a mix of&nbsp;some nice 
hindi bhajans, marati 

abhangs, telugu kirtans, kannada dasar padams, viruttams in sanskrit shlokas 

with tamil padams &amp; thillanas. it just not applies to her but to any 
vocal support singer for dance performances. My mom is a fan of sdburman, 
rdburmani, mohd rafi, mukesh,&nbsp; lata mangeshkar, Kishori Amonkar, begum 
parveen sultana, pt.Jasraj, Bhimsen 

Joshi, jagjit singh, anup jalota, ghulam ali, G.N.Balasubramaniam , 
M.L.Vasantha Kumari, K.V.Mahadevan, M.S.V., Maragathamani, TMS, suseela, 
p.leela, spb, janaki, p.b.s., jesudas &amp; 

ofcourse AR &amp; Ilayaraja &amp; many more of singers &amp; 
composers &amp; musicians that consume my time. 



She will find 

the ragas &amp; taal in Michael Jacksons music &amp; rhythms. She is a 
fan of 

beetles. She wont miss the news related to grammy awards. She will list out the 

ragas &amp; their bhava family they belong from the mind blowing 
orchestrations 

&amp; bgms&nbsp;in hollywood movies. Two americans are students to my 
mom learning how to vocal support for this classical form of art. Chord you 
dont have any other work &amp; idling here only to create record on posts 
with ill intentions &amp; not on facts.



&nbsp;



Coming to limitations on another claim, tastes are changing to trends &amp; 
generations. before raghuman era people were definitely enjoying raja's 
brilliance. Non-tamil fans who dont know about good &amp; the best songs of 
other tamil mds cannot understand these facts sadly &amp; for their limited 
exposure on richer side of tamil music on traditional, classical &amp; by 
films. Raja may 

not be interested to learn urdu &amp; hindi to jump into bollywood to try 
there. Raja just for a decade now stands 2nd to raghuman in creativity. I would 
ask why heros from various states dont try their luck in bollywood. Why 

even Kamal &amp; Raj

Re:[arr] ARRs focus on solo instruments-overdoing on INDIAN MUSIC?

2008-06-05 Thread Chord
By the way, who the heck is Raghuman? LOL!



--- In arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com, "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
wrote:
>
> 
> Friends i feel sorry to say this. CHord please stop as you said you
know lot about INDIAN MUSIC. be realistic & true to yourself. are
you for raghuman or for yourself just to do more posts & over do.
by limited writing you wont lose importance. It looks pity. by over
& over highlighting on same things you want to see posts-like from
ricky pc speak for other mds & finally tapey falling into
ilayaraja groove. Chord you are the one coming with music by other mds
& as part of music lovers universally no one will deny if you
wanna speak on other mds.
> 
> My mom 
> who is singing for Bharata Natyam performances asking this guy Chord to 
> elaborate on beautiful Padams & Javalis please, as he claimed, know 
> lot about Indian Music ?  She is laughing at this guy of suddenly
putting raghuman in high spirits as no other person in indian music
& another day he bbrings in many recommendations for some old
& new music of other mds he finds special in it only to insist not
in raghumans. To keep on insisting, this is it, this is 
> not, with their [know lot about INDIAN MUSIC attitude] shows 
> only immaturity with lack of exposure on INDIAN MUSIC BLENDED WITH
CULTURES. if you want to claim anything kindly add [to my limited
knowledge on hindi music & genres].
>  
> human minds are in sick arrangement when 
> it finds something new & irresistible it is ready to throw other 
> things without realizing its existed value be it music or be
crazy writing to forums to gain importance only to be seen obsessed.
> if i listen to certain composers, in certain languages
& certain genres, i cannot put views in public with a bold claim
[i know
> lot about INDIAN MUSIC & this is it], to my limited exposure. both
> old & new worlds music has provided us gems with
various musicians
> in many genres.
>  
> dear friend for dance performances she used to give a mix
of some nice hindi bhajans, marati 
> abhangs, telugu kirtans, kannada dasar padams, viruttams in sanskrit
shlokas 
> with tamil padams & thillanas. it just not applies to her but to
any vocal support singer for dance performances. My mom is a fan of
sdburman, rdburmani, mohd rafi, mukesh, lata mangeshkar, Kishori
Amonkar, begum parveen sultana, pt.Jasraj, Bhimsen 
> Joshi, jagjit singh, anup jalota, ghulam ali, G.N.Balasubramaniam,
M.L.Vasantha Kumari, K.V.Mahadevan, M.S.V., Maragathamani, TMS,
suseela, p.leela, spb, janaki, p.b.s., jesudas & 
> ofcourse AR & Ilayaraja & many more of singers &
composers & musicians that consume my time. 
> 
> She will find 
> the ragas & taal in Michael Jacksons music & rhythms. She is
a fan of 
> beetles. She wont miss the news related to grammy awards. She will
list out the 
> ragas & their bhava family they belong from the mind blowing
orchestrations 
> & bgms in hollywood movies. Two americans are students to
my mom learning how to vocal support for this classical form of art.
Chord you dont have any other work & idling here only to create
record on posts with ill intentions & not on facts.
> 
>  
> 
> 
> Coming to limitations on another claim, tastes are changing to
trends & generations. before raghuman era people were definitely
enjoying raja's brilliance. Non-tamil fans who dont know about good
& the best songs of other tamil mds cannot understand these facts
sadly & for their limited exposure on richer side of tamil music
on traditional, classical & by films. Raja may 
> not be interested to learn urdu & hindi to jump into bollywood
to try there. Raja just for a decade now stands 2nd to raghuman in
creativity. I would ask why heros from various states dont try their
luck in bollywood. Why 
> even Kamal & Rajini could not find a constant place in bollywood
with their 
> talents. It is difficult business-wise considering the style of
living, 
> language & what the society demand in films in that culture
at that time. 
> 
> May be ilayaraja is satisfied with what he does at the period when
> raghuman is very junior & not in action. Raja is contented with the
> money & entertaining tamil fans as far as possible. I believe even
> if raja gets more hindi films he wont deviate or cheat tamil fans from
> giving best music also to tamil films at later stages in a way of
> thanking the soil & his first fans which is not in the case of
> raghuman. Like this guy Chord is sick of putting posts thinking himself
> as the best critic who learnt all forms of Indian Music, Raghuman is
> sick after money forgetting his good old tamil fans who want to listen
> to some best tunes even for that few tamil films he is working in.
> when fans claim Raja could not do what raghuman did in bollywood
they forgot, what fans & critics in north claim as the famous A to
Z of bollywood composers, why such bollywood composers could not step
into Hollywood ? Or why the 60s, 70s & 80s of bollywood tunes
could not impress any westerners

Re:[arr] ARRs focus on solo instruments-overdoing on INDIAN MUSIC?

2008-06-05 Thread Chord
LOL..I knew someone was going to overreact and take this
personally.  I was just counting the days.  And to top it off, your
post doesn't even make sense!  

--- In arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com, "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
wrote:
>
> 
> Friends i feel sorry to say this. CHord please stop as you said you
know lot about INDIAN MUSIC. be realistic & true to yourself. are
you for raghuman or for yourself just to do more posts & over do.
by limited writing you wont lose importance. It looks pity. by over
& over highlighting on same things you want to see posts-like from
ricky pc speak for other mds & finally tapey falling into
ilayaraja groove. Chord you are the one coming with music by other mds
& as part of music lovers universally no one will deny if you
wanna speak on other mds.
> 
> My mom 
> who is singing for Bharata Natyam performances asking this guy Chord to 
> elaborate on beautiful Padams & Javalis please, as he claimed, know 
> lot about Indian Music ?  She is laughing at this guy of suddenly
putting raghuman in high spirits as no other person in indian music
& another day he bbrings in many recommendations for some old
& new music of other mds he finds special in it only to insist not
in raghumans. To keep on insisting, this is it, this is 
> not, with their [know lot about INDIAN MUSIC attitude] shows 
> only immaturity with lack of exposure on INDIAN MUSIC BLENDED WITH
CULTURES. if you want to claim anything kindly add [to my limited
knowledge on hindi music & genres].
>  
> human minds are in sick arrangement when 
> it finds something new & irresistible it is ready to throw other 
> things without realizing its existed value be it music or be
crazy writing to forums to gain importance only to be seen obsessed.
> if i listen to certain composers, in certain languages
& certain genres, i cannot put views in public with a bold claim
[i know
> lot about INDIAN MUSIC & this is it], to my limited exposure. both
> old & new worlds music has provided us gems with
various musicians
> in many genres.
>  
> dear friend for dance performances she used to give a mix
of some nice hindi bhajans, marati 
> abhangs, telugu kirtans, kannada dasar padams, viruttams in sanskrit
shlokas 
> with tamil padams & thillanas. it just not applies to her but to
any vocal support singer for dance performances. My mom is a fan of
sdburman, rdburmani, mohd rafi, mukesh, lata mangeshkar, Kishori
Amonkar, begum parveen sultana, pt.Jasraj, Bhimsen 
> Joshi, jagjit singh, anup jalota, ghulam ali, G.N.Balasubramaniam,
M.L.Vasantha Kumari, K.V.Mahadevan, M.S.V., Maragathamani, TMS,
suseela, p.leela, spb, janaki, p.b.s., jesudas & 
> ofcourse AR & Ilayaraja & many more of singers &
composers & musicians that consume my time. 
> 
> She will find 
> the ragas & taal in Michael Jacksons music & rhythms. She is
a fan of 
> beetles. She wont miss the news related to grammy awards. She will
list out the 
> ragas & their bhava family they belong from the mind blowing
orchestrations 
> & bgms in hollywood movies. Two americans are students to
my mom learning how to vocal support for this classical form of art.
Chord you dont have any other work & idling here only to create
record on posts with ill intentions & not on facts.
> 
>  
> 
> 
> Coming to limitations on another claim, tastes are changing to
trends & generations. before raghuman era people were definitely
enjoying raja's brilliance. Non-tamil fans who dont know about good
& the best songs of other tamil mds cannot understand these facts
sadly & for their limited exposure on richer side of tamil music
on traditional, classical & by films. Raja may 
> not be interested to learn urdu & hindi to jump into bollywood
to try there. Raja just for a decade now stands 2nd to raghuman in
creativity. I would ask why heros from various states dont try their
luck in bollywood. Why 
> even Kamal & Rajini could not find a constant place in bollywood
with their 
> talents. It is difficult business-wise considering the style of
living, 
> language & what the society demand in films in that culture
at that time. 
> 
> May be ilayaraja is satisfied with what he does at the period when
> raghuman is very junior & not in action. Raja is contented with the
> money & entertaining tamil fans as far as possible. I believe even
> if raja gets more hindi films he wont deviate or cheat tamil fans from
> giving best music also to tamil films at later stages in a way of
> thanking the soil & his first fans which is not in the case of
> raghuman. Like this guy Chord is sick of putting posts thinking himself
> as the best critic who learnt all forms of Indian Music, Raghuman is
> sick after money forgetting his good old tamil fans who want to listen
> to some best tunes even for that few tamil films he is working in.
> when fans claim Raja could not do what raghuman did in bollywood
they forgot, what fans & critics in north claim as the famous A to
Z of bollywood composers, why such bollywood com

Re:[arr] ARRs focus on solo instruments-overdoing on INDIAN MUSIC?

2008-06-05 Thread nandatronics
Great Vignesh,

  I revere your great knowledge on Indian Music and I admire for 
spinning such a nice story over a small point made by Chord, even 
though such a nice response was not required and sounds ir-relevant. 
Sorry to say this.
I replied to your mail to point out this one:


May be ilayaraja is satisfied with what he does at the period when
raghuman is very junior & not in action. Raja is contented with 
the
money & entertaining tamil fans as far as possible. I believe even
if raja gets more hindi films he wont deviate or cheat tamil fans from
giving best music also to tamil films at later stages in a way of
thanking the soil & his first fans which is not in the case of
raghuman. Like this guy Chord is sick of putting posts thinking 
himself
as the best critic who learnt all forms of Indian Music, Raghuman is
sick after money forgetting his good old tamil fans who want to listen
to some best tunes even for that few tamil films he is working in.


These statements on ARR was not required, he is giving best music 
to Tamil as well, get your ears tested and dont comment that ARR is 
cheating tamil fans and he is behind money. 

We are here to listen to his music and enjoy. Please do 
that and let us do that..

Thanks and Regards,
NANDAKISHORE.S
--- In arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com, "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
wrote:
>
> 
> Friends i feel sorry to say this. CHord please stop as you said you 
know lot about INDIAN MUSIC. be realistic & true to yourself. are 
you for raghuman or for yourself just to do more posts & over do. 
by limited writing you wont lose importance. It looks pity. by over 
& over highlighting on same things you want to see posts-like 
from ricky pc speak for other mds & finally tapey falling into 
ilayaraja groove. Chord you are the one coming with music by other 
mds & as part of music lovers universally no one will deny if you 
wanna speak on other mds.
> 
> My mom 
> who is singing for Bharata Natyam performances asking this guy 
Chord to 
> elaborate on beautiful Padams & Javalis please, as he claimed, 
know 
> lot about Indian Music ?  She is laughing at this guy of suddenly 
putting raghuman in high spirits as no other person in indian music 
& another day he bbrings in many recommendations for some old 
& new music of other mds he finds special in it only to insist 
not in raghumans. To keep on insisting, this is it, this is 
> not, with their [know lot about INDIAN MUSIC attitude] shows 
> only immaturity with lack of exposure on INDIAN MUSIC BLENDED WITH 
CULTURES. if you want to claim anything kindly add [to my limited 
knowledge on hindi music & genres].
>  
> human minds are in sick arrangement when 
> it finds something new & irresistible it is ready to throw 
other 
> things without realizing its existed value be it music or be 
crazy writing to forums to gain importance only to be seen obsessed.
> if i listen to certain composers, in certain languages 
& certain genres, i cannot put views in public with a bold claim 
[i know
> lot about INDIAN MUSIC & this is it], to my limited exposure. 
both
> old & new worlds music has provided us gems with 
various musicians
> in many genres.
>  
> dear friend for dance performances she used to give a mix 
of some nice hindi bhajans, marati 
> abhangs, telugu kirtans, kannada dasar padams, viruttams in 
sanskrit shlokas 
> with tamil padams & thillanas. it just not applies to her but 
to any vocal support singer for dance performances. My mom is a fan 
of sdburman, rdburmani, mohd rafi, mukesh, lata mangeshkar, 
Kishori Amonkar, begum parveen sultana, pt.Jasraj, Bhimsen 
> Joshi, jagjit singh, anup jalota, ghulam ali, G.N.Balasubramaniam, 
M.L.Vasantha Kumari, K.V.Mahadevan, M.S.V., Maragathamani, TMS, 
suseela, p.leela, spb, janaki, p.b.s., jesudas & 
> ofcourse AR & Ilayaraja & many more of singers & 
composers & musicians that consume my time. 
> 
> She will find 
> the ragas & taal in Michael Jacksons music & rhythms. She 
is a fan of 
> beetles. She wont miss the news related to grammy awards. She will 
list out the 
> ragas & their bhava family they belong from the mind blowing 
orchestrations 
> & bgms in hollywood movies. Two americans are students to 
my mom learning how to vocal support for this classical form of art. 
Chord you dont have any other work & idling here only to create 
record on posts with ill intentions & not on facts.
> 
>  
> 
> 
> Coming to limitations on another claim, tastes are changing to 
trends & generations. before raghuman era people were definitely 
enjoying raja's brilliance. Non-tamil fans who dont know about good 
& the best songs of other tamil mds cannot understand these facts 
sadly & for their limited exposure on richer side of tamil music 
on traditional, classical & by films. Raja may 
> not be interested to lear

Re:[arr] ARRs focus on solo instruments-overdoing on INDIAN MUSIC?

2008-06-05 Thread fani kalyan
Dude why r u so much agitated and overreacted...chord only said 'these' and 
these implies to the MDs ricky mentioned!and thats true..!I dont understand why 
you u have written so much abt ur mom likes and dislikes..and whos this 
Raghuman??neva heard his name b4:P

   "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" <[EMAIL PROTECTED] com> wrote:  
Friends i feel sorry to say this. CHord please stop as you said you know lot 
about INDIAN MUSIC. be realistic & true to yourself. are you for 
raghuman or for yourself just to do more posts & over do. by limited 
writing you wont lose importance. It looks pity. by over & over 
highlighting on same things you want to see posts-like from ricky pc speak for 
other mds & finally tapey
 falling into ilayaraja groove. Chord you are the one coming with music by 
other mds & as part of music lovers universally no one will deny if you 
wanna speak on other mds.

My mom 
who is singing for Bharata Natyam performances asking this guy Chord to 
elaborate on beautiful Padams & Javalis please, as he claimed, know 
lot about Indian Music ? She is laughing at this guy of suddenly putting 
raghuman in high spirits as no other person in indian music & another 
day he bbrings in many recommendations for some old & new music of 
other mds he finds special in it only to insist not in raghumans. To keep on 
insisting, this is it, this is 
not, with their [know lot about INDIAN MUSIC attitude]  shows 
only immaturity with lack of exposure on INDIAN MUSIC BLENDED WITH CULTURES. if 
you want to claim anything kindly add [to my limited knowledge on hindi music 
& genres].

human minds are in sick
 arrangement when 
it finds something new & irresistible it is ready to throw other 
things  without realizing its existed value be it music or be crazy 
writing to forums to gain importance only to be seen obsessed.
if i listen to certain composers, in certain languages 
& certain genres, i cannot put views in public with a bold claim [i know
lot about INDIAN MUSIC & this is it], to my limited exposure. both
old & new worlds music has provided us gems with 
various  musicians
in many genres.
 
dear friend for dance performances she used to give a mix of some nice 
hindi bhajans, marati 
abhangs, telugu kirtans, kannada dasar padams, viruttams in sanskrit shlokas 
with tamil padams & thillanas. it just not applies to her but to any 
vocal support singer for dance performances. My mom is a fan of sdburman, 
rdburmani, mohd rafi,
 mukesh,  lata mangeshkar, Kishori Amonkar, begum parveen sultana, 
pt.Jasraj, Bhimsen 
Joshi, jagjit singh, anup jalota, ghulam ali, G.N.Balasubramaniam , 
M.L.Vasantha Kumari, K.V.Mahadevan, M.S.V., Maragathamani, TMS, suseela, 
p.leela, spb, janaki, p.b.s., jesudas & 
ofcourse AR & Ilayaraja & many more of singers & 
composers & musicians that consume my time. 

She will find 
the ragas & taal in Michael Jacksons music & rhythms. She is a 
fan of 
beetles. She wont miss the news related to grammy awards. She will list out the 
ragas & their bhava family they belong from the mind blowing 
orchestrations 
& bgms in hollywood movies. Two americans are students to my 
mom learning how to vocal support for this classical form of art. Chord you 
dont have any other work & idling here only to create record on posts 
with ill intentions & not on
 facts.

 

Coming to limitations on another claim, tastes are changing to trends & 
generations. before raghuman era people were definitely enjoying raja's 
brilliance. Non-tamil fans who dont know about good & the best songs of 
other tamil mds cannot understand these facts sadly & for their limited 
exposure on richer side of tamil music on traditional, classical & by 
films. Raja may 
not be interested to learn urdu & hindi to jump into bollywood to try 
there. Raja just for a decade now stands 2nd to raghuman in creativity. I would 
ask why heros from various states dont try their luck in bollywood. Why 
even Kamal & Rajini could not find a constant place in bollywood with 
their 
talents. It is difficult business-wise& nbsp;considering the style of 
living, 
language  & what the society demand in films in that culture 
at that time. 

May be ilayaraja is satisfied
 with what he does at the period when
raghuman is very junior & not in action. Raja is contented with the
money & entertaining tamil fans as far as possible. I believe even
if raja gets more hindi films he wont deviate or cheat tamil fans from
giving best music also to tamil films at later stages in a way of
thanking the soil & his first fans which is not in the case of
raghuman. Like this guy Chord is sick of putting posts thinking himself
as the best critic who learnt all forms of Indian Music, Raghuman is
sick after money forgetting his good old tamil fans who want to listen
to some best tunes

Re:[arr] ARRs focus on solo instruments-overdoing on INDIAN MUSIC?

2008-06-05 Thread $ Pavan Kumar $
Insane  Grow Up dude...
  
 
  "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
  
Friends i feel sorry to say this. CHord please stop as you said you know lot 
about INDIAN MUSIC. be realistic & true to yourself. are you for raghuman 
or for yourself just to do more posts & over do. by limited writing you 
wont lose importance. It looks pity. by over & over highlighting on same 
things you want to see posts-like from ricky pc speak for other mds & 
finally tapey falling into ilayaraja groove. Chord you are the one coming with 
music by other mds & as part of music lovers universally no one will deny 
if you wanna speak on other mds.

My mom 
who is singing for Bharata Natyam performances asking this guy Chord to 
elaborate on beautiful Padams & Javalis please, as he claimed, know 
lot about Indian Music ? She is laughing at this guy of suddenly putting 
raghuman in high spirits as no other person in indian music & another day 
he bbrings in many recommendations for some old & new music of other mds he 
finds special in it only to insist not in raghumans. To keep on insisting, this 
is it, this is 
not, with their [know lot about INDIAN MUSIC attitude] shows 
only immaturity with lack of exposure on INDIAN MUSIC BLENDED WITH CULTURES. if 
you want to claim anything kindly add [to my limited knowledge on hindi music 
& genres].

human minds are in sick arrangement when 
it finds something new & irresistible it is ready to throw other 
things without realizing its existed value be it music or be crazy writing 
to forums to gain importance only to be seen obsessed.
if i listen to certain composers, in certain languages & certain 
genres, i cannot put views in public with a bold claim [i know
lot about INDIAN MUSIC & this is it], to my limited exposure. both
old & new worlds music has provided us gems with various musicians
in many genres.
 
dear friend for dance performances she used to give a mix of some nice 
hindi bhajans, marati 
abhangs, telugu kirtans, kannada dasar padams, viruttams in sanskrit shlokas 
with tamil padams & thillanas. it just not applies to her but to any vocal 
support singer for dance performances. My mom is a fan of sdburman, rdburmani, 
mohd rafi, mukesh, lata mangeshkar, Kishori Amonkar, begum parveen 
sultana, pt.Jasraj, Bhimsen 
Joshi, jagjit singh, anup jalota, ghulam ali, G.N.Balasubramaniam, M.L.Vasantha 
Kumari, K.V.Mahadevan, M.S.V., Maragathamani, TMS, suseela, p.leela, spb, 
janaki, p.b.s., jesudas & 
ofcourse AR & Ilayaraja & many more of singers & composers & 
musicians that consume my time. 

She will find 
the ragas & taal in Michael Jacksons music & rhythms. She is a fan of 
beetles. She wont miss the news related to grammy awards. She will list out the 
ragas & their bhava family they belong from the mind blowing orchestrations 
& bgms in hollywood movies. Two americans are students to my mom 
learning how to vocal support for this classical form of art. Chord you dont 
have any other work & idling here only to create record on posts with ill 
intentions & not on facts.

 

Coming to limitations on another claim, tastes are changing to trends & 
generations. before raghuman era people were definitely enjoying raja's 
brilliance. Non-tamil fans who dont know about good & the best songs of 
other tamil mds cannot understand these facts sadly & for their limited 
exposure on richer side of tamil music on traditional, classical & by 
films. Raja may 
not be interested to learn urdu & hindi to jump into bollywood to try 
there. Raja just for a decade now stands 2nd to raghuman in creativity. I would 
ask why heros from various states dont try their luck in bollywood. Why 
even Kamal & Rajini could not find a constant place in bollywood with their 
talents. It is difficult business-wise considering the style of living, 
language & what the society demand in films in that culture at that 
time. 

May be ilayaraja is satisfied with what he does at the period when
raghuman is very junior & not in action. Raja is contented with the
money & entertaining tamil fans as far as possible. I believe even
if raja gets more hindi films he wont deviate or cheat tamil fans from
giving best music also to tamil films at later stages in a way of
thanking the soil & his first fans which is not in the case of
raghuman. Like this guy Chord is sick of putting posts thinking himself
as the best critic who learnt all forms of Indian Music, Raghuman is
sick after money forgetting his good old tamil fans who want to listen
to some best tunes even for that few tamil films he is working in.
when fans claim Raja could not do what raghuman did in bollywood they forgot, 
what fans & critics in north claim as the famous A to Z of bollywood 
composers, why such bollywood composers could not step into Hollywood ? Or why 
the 60s, 70s & 80s of bollywood tunes could not impress any westerners to 
use them in Hollywood movies ? Or is it possible for them to give some soul 
stirring music in south in

Re: [arr] ARRs focus on solo instruments-overdoing on INDIAN MUSIC?

2008-06-05 Thread Gomzy
Whats wrong with the group these days? Why does one have to get so personal
about things? The abusing here is not surprsing, but how this was moderated
and sent across
to the group is.


On 6/5/08, [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>
> Friends i feel sorry to say this. CHord please stop as you said you know
> lot about INDIAN MUSIC. be realistic & true to yourself. are you for
> raghuman or for yourself just to do more posts & over do. by limited
> writing you wont lose importance. It looks pity. by over & over
> highlighting on same things you want to see posts-like from ricky pc speak
> for other mds & finally tapey falling into ilayaraja groove. Chord you
> are the one coming with music by other mds & as part of music lovers
> universally no one will deny if you wanna speak on other mds.
>
> My mom
> who is singing for Bharata Natyam performances asking this guy Chord to
> elaborate on beautiful Padams & Javalis please, as he claimed, know
> lot about Indian Music ? She is laughing at this guy of suddenly putting
> raghuman in high spirits as no other person in indian music & another
> day he bbrings in many recommendations for some old & new music of other
> mds he finds special in it only to insist not in raghumans. To keep on
> insisting, this is it, this is
> not, with their [know lot about INDIAN MUSIC attitude] shows
> only immaturity with lack of exposure on INDIAN MUSIC BLENDED WITH
> CULTURES. if you want to claim anything kindly add [to my limited knowledge
> on hindi music & genres].
>
> human minds are in sick arrangement when
> it finds something new & irresistible it is ready to throw other
> things without realizing its existed value be it music or be crazy
> writing to forums to gain importance only to be seen obsessed.
> if i listen to certain composers, in certain languages &
> certain genres, i cannot put views in public with a bold claim [i know
> lot about INDIAN MUSIC & this is it], to my limited exposure. both
> old & new worlds music has provided us gems with
> various musicians
> in many genres.
>  
> dear friend for dance performances she used to give a mix of some nice
> hindi bhajans, marati
> abhangs, telugu kirtans, kannada dasar padams, viruttams in sanskrit
> shlokas
> with tamil padams & thillanas. it just not applies to her but to any
> vocal support singer for dance performances. My mom is a fan of sdburman,
> rdburmani, mohd rafi, mukesh, lata mangeshkar, Kishori Amonkar, begum
> parveen sultana, pt.Jasraj, Bhimsen
> Joshi, jagjit singh, anup jalota, ghulam ali, G.N.Balasubramaniam,
> M.L.Vasantha Kumari, K.V.Mahadevan, M.S.V., Maragathamani, TMS, suseela,
> p.leela, spb, janaki, p.b.s., jesudas &
> ofcourse AR & Ilayaraja & many more of singers & composers
> & musicians that consume my time.
>
> She will find
> the ragas & taal in Michael Jacksons music & rhythms. She is a fan
> of
> beetles. She wont miss the news related to grammy awards. She will list out
> the
> ragas & their bhava family they belong from the mind blowing
> orchestrations
> & bgms in hollywood movies. Two americans are students to my mom
> learning how to vocal support for this classical form of art. Chord you dont
> have any other work & idling here only to create record on posts with
> ill intentions & not on facts.
>
>  
>
> Coming to limitations on another claim, tastes are changing to trends &
> generations. before raghuman era people were definitely enjoying raja's
> brilliance. Non-tamil fans who dont know about good & the best songs of
> other tamil mds cannot understand these facts sadly & for their limited
> exposure on richer side of tamil music on traditional, classical & by
> films. Raja may
> not be interested to learn urdu & hindi to jump into bollywood to try
> there. Raja just for a decade now stands 2nd to raghuman in creativity. I
> would ask why heros from various states dont try their luck in bollywood.
> Why
> even Kamal & Rajini could not find a constant place in bollywood with
> their
> talents. It is difficult business-wise considering the style of
> living,
> language & what the society demand in films in that culture at
> that time.
>
> May be ilayaraja is satisfied with what he does at the period when
> raghuman is very junior & not in action. Raja is contented with the
> money & entertaining tamil fans as far as possible. I believe even
> if raja gets more hindi films he wont deviate or cheat tamil fans from
> giving best music also to tamil films at later stages in a way of
> thanking the soil & his first fans which is not in the case of
> raghuman. Like this guy Chord is sick of putting posts thinking himself
> as the best critic who learnt all forms of Indian Music, Raghuman is
> sick after money forgetting his good old tamil fans who want to listen
> to some best tunes even for that few tamil films he is working in.
> when fans claim Raja could not do what raghuman did in bollywood they
> forgot, what fans & critics in north claim as the famous A to Z

Re:[arr] ARRs focus on solo instruments-overdoing on INDIAN MUSIC?

2008-06-05 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Friends i feel sorry to say this. CHord please stop as you said you know lot 
about INDIAN MUSIC. be realistic & true to yourself. are you for raghuman 
or for yourself just to do more posts & over do. by limited writing you 
wont lose importance. It looks pity. by over & over highlighting on same 
things you want to see posts-like from ricky pc speak for other mds & 
finally tapey falling into ilayaraja groove. Chord you are the one coming with 
music by other mds & as part of music lovers universally no one will deny 
if you wanna speak on other mds.

My mom 
who is singing for Bharata Natyam performances asking this guy Chord to 
elaborate on beautiful Padams & Javalis please, as he claimed, know 
lot about Indian Music ?  She is laughing at this guy of suddenly putting 
raghuman in high spirits as no other person in indian music & another day 
he bbrings in many recommendations for some old & new music of other mds he 
finds special in it only to insist not in raghumans. To keep on insisting, this 
is it, this is 
not, with their [know lot about INDIAN MUSIC attitude] shows 
only immaturity with lack of exposure on INDIAN MUSIC BLENDED WITH CULTURES. if 
you want to claim anything kindly add [to my limited knowledge on hindi music 
& genres].
 
human minds are in sick arrangement when 
it finds something new & irresistible it is ready to throw other 
things without realizing its existed value be it music or be crazy writing 
to forums to gain importance only to be seen obsessed.
if i listen to certain composers, in certain languages & certain 
genres, i cannot put views in public with a bold claim [i know
lot about INDIAN MUSIC & this is it], to my limited exposure. both
old & new worlds music has provided us gems with various musicians
in many genres.
 
dear friend for dance performances she used to give a mix of some nice 
hindi bhajans, marati 
abhangs, telugu kirtans, kannada dasar padams, viruttams in sanskrit shlokas 
with tamil padams & thillanas. it just not applies to her but to any vocal 
support singer for dance performances. My mom is a fan of sdburman, rdburmani, 
mohd rafi, mukesh, lata mangeshkar, Kishori Amonkar, begum parveen 
sultana, pt.Jasraj, Bhimsen 
Joshi, jagjit singh, anup jalota, ghulam ali, G.N.Balasubramaniam, M.L.Vasantha 
Kumari, K.V.Mahadevan, M.S.V., Maragathamani, TMS, suseela, p.leela, spb, 
janaki, p.b.s., jesudas & 
ofcourse AR & Ilayaraja & many more of singers & composers & 
musicians that consume my time. 

She will find 
the ragas & taal in Michael Jacksons music & rhythms. She is a fan of 
beetles. She wont miss the news related to grammy awards. She will list out the 
ragas & their bhava family they belong from the mind blowing orchestrations 
& bgms in hollywood movies. Two americans are students to my mom 
learning how to vocal support for this classical form of art. Chord you dont 
have any other work & idling here only to create record on posts with ill 
intentions & not on facts.

 


Coming to limitations on another claim, tastes are changing to trends & 
generations. before raghuman era people were definitely enjoying raja's 
brilliance. Non-tamil fans who dont know about good & the best songs of 
other tamil mds cannot understand these facts sadly & for their limited 
exposure on richer side of tamil music on traditional, classical & by 
films. Raja may 
not be interested to learn urdu & hindi to jump into bollywood to try 
there. Raja just for a decade now stands 2nd to raghuman in creativity. I would 
ask why heros from various states dont try their luck in bollywood. Why 
even Kamal & Rajini could not find a constant place in bollywood with their 
talents. It is difficult business-wise considering the style of living, 
language & what the society demand in films in that culture at that 
time. 

May be ilayaraja is satisfied with what he does at the period when
raghuman is very junior & not in action. Raja is contented with the
money & entertaining tamil fans as far as possible. I believe even
if raja gets more hindi films he wont deviate or cheat tamil fans from
giving best music also to tamil films at later stages in a way of
thanking the soil & his first fans which is not in the case of
raghuman. Like this guy Chord is sick of putting posts thinking himself
as the best critic who learnt all forms of Indian Music, Raghuman is
sick after money forgetting his good old tamil fans who want to listen
to some best tunes even for that few tamil films he is working in.
when fans claim Raja could not do what raghuman did in bollywood they forgot, 
what fans & critics in north claim as the famous A to Z of bollywood 
composers, why such bollywood composers could not step into Hollywood ? Or why 
the 60s, 70s & 80s of bollywood tunes could not impress any westerners to 
use them in Hollywood movies ? Or is it possible for them to give some soul 
stirring music in south indian films. Let them find a place 2nd to 
raghuman. But who is 
interested from there to