Re: How to implement HA architecture?
Thanks you all! I learned a lot from you guys. But I still got something to confirm. What I have: 1) 4 physical machines MS Windows OS(2 for Mid-tier, 2 for ARS); 2) One physical F5 device; 3)One Oracle RAC hosting DB for ARS. My customer is primarily using Web client. Q1)Can I create two farms on one single F5 device? one for Mid-tier; one for ARS. Does this configuration have HA capability for ARS? I mean if one ARS server down, the whole system is still working. Q2)Does MS cluster provide one single entry and HA function for two ARS servers? I mean two ARS servers within one server group. If one ARS server down, MS cluster will switch to another ARS server. And this server will still pick up Administrative Operations, Escalation, Reconciliation, etc... Does MS cluster service equal to a F5 device from HA point view? I will post F5 device model that you may know. Best regards! Martin 2009/12/5 Kelly Deaver kdea...@kellydeaver.com ** You may find this presentation handy as well. It was my attempt to pull together the info in all the various install manuals - http://communities.bmc.com/communities/docs/DOC-2841 Kelly Deaver Effective Technologies www.effect-tech.com kdea...@kellydeaver.com (ARSlist mail) ke...@effect-tech.com (Business mail) Original Message Subject: Re: How to implement HA architecture? From: Garrison, Sean (Norcross) sean.garri...@fiserv.com Date: Fri, December 04, 2009 3:12 pm To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG True high availability allows your server to still be up and running if one of the locations goes down. This is pretty much impossible with remedy because the app server is highly dependent on the connection to the db. We tried it with one of our remote locations and it took 45 minutes just for one app server to start because the DB was located in Georgia and the App server was in Ohio. Our ultimate solution was to replicate the db to ohio and use the app servers in ohio (connecting to a local db in ohio) as hot backups just in case the ones in georgia goes down. What Axton said below is pretty much our setup (except we have 3 app servers and 4 mid-tier). The only thing we added was a hot backup environment in another location. Hope that helps, Sean -Original Message- From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) [mailto:arslist** @ARSLIST.ORG http://email.secureserver.net/#Compose] On Behalf Of Axton Sent: Friday, December 04, 2009 10:42 AM To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG Subject: Re: How to implement HA architecture? One more thing to add. You need to configure health checks in the F5 for the midtier and arserver nodes. I have not fully vetted any of these approaches, but these are my thoughts: ARS: 1. port check (this mostly works) 2. iRules in the F5 to simulate a session Midtier: 1. HTTP post to a page that the web server displays 2. HTTP post to a page that the servlet container renders (midtier config) 3. HTTP post to a page that the midtier renders (home page) 4. port check Axton Grams The opinions, statements, and/or suggested courses of action expressed in this E-mail do not necessarily reflect those of BMC Software, Inc. My voluntary participation in this forum is not intended to convey a role as a spokesperson, liaison or public relations representative for BMC Software, Inc. On Fri, Dec 4, 2009 at 9:40 AM, Axton axton.gr...@gmail.com wrote: For ARS: - Create an F5 farm for udp/111, tcp/111, and the port ars listens on - Enable session persistence based on src ip (needed due to floating licenses) - Configure a server group in ARS For MidTier: - Create and F5 farm for tcp/80 and tcp/443 - Enable session persistence based on src ip (needed because midtier does not synchronize/use central store for session information) When you configure the midtier as to what arservers to point to, there are a couple of options: - point it to the ars farm: this causes issues because all midtier sessions go to the same arserver - point each midtier server to the individual server When working with the F5, you need the arservers to be on a network that gives a route to the db that does not traverse the F5. This is typically accomlished using a back end network that the arservers and db servers are connected to. Axton Grams The opinions, statements, and/or suggested courses of action expressed in this E-mail do not necessarily reflect those of BMC Software, Inc. My voluntary participation in this forum is not intended to convey a role as a spokesperson, liaison or public relations representative for BMC Software, Inc. On Fri, Dec 4, 2009 at 2:35 AM, Martin Liu liuz...@gmail.com wrote: ** Hi List, I have two physical windows machines running ARS. Another two machines behind F5 are installed Mid-tier, they will connect to ARS. The customer have HA requirement for ARS. I could have two options: 1)MS Windows Cluster;
Re: How to implement HA architecture?
You can create many farms on a single F5 (of any type you choose). If one arserver is down, things should just keep working as if nothing were wrong. If you are going with a farm with many active nodes, I do not see the need for MS Clustering. Axton Grams The opinions, statements, and/or suggested courses of action expressed in this E-mail do not necessarily reflect those of BMC Software, Inc. My voluntary participation in this forum is not intended to convey a role as a spokesperson, liaison or public relations representative for BMC Software, Inc. On Sat, Dec 5, 2009 at 2:49 AM, Martin Liu liuz...@gmail.com wrote: ** Thanks you all! I learned a lot from you guys. But I still got something to confirm. What I have: 1) 4 physical machines MS Windows OS(2 for Mid-tier, 2 for ARS); 2) One physical F5 device; 3)One Oracle RAC hosting DB for ARS. My customer is primarily using Web client. Q1)Can I create two farms on one single F5 device? one for Mid-tier; one for ARS. Does this configuration have HA capability for ARS? I mean if one ARS server down, the whole system is still working. Q2)Does MS cluster provide one single entry and HA function for two ARS servers? I mean two ARS servers within one server group. If one ARS server down, MS cluster will switch to another ARS server. And this server will still pick up Administrative Operations, Escalation, Reconciliation, etc... Does MS cluster service equal to a F5 device from HA point view? I will post F5 device model that you may know. Best regards! Martin 2009/12/5 Kelly Deaver kdea...@kellydeaver.com ** You may find this presentation handy as well. It was my attempt to pull together the info in all the various install manuals - http://communities.bmc.com/communities/docs/DOC-2841 Kelly Deaver Effective Technologies www.effect-tech.com kdea...@kellydeaver.com (ARSlist mail) ke...@effect-tech.com (Business mail) Original Message Subject: Re: How to implement HA architecture? From: Garrison, Sean (Norcross) sean.garri...@fiserv.com Date: Fri, December 04, 2009 3:12 pm To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG True high availability allows your server to still be up and running if one of the locations goes down. This is pretty much impossible with remedy because the app server is highly dependent on the connection to the db. We tried it with one of our remote locations and it took 45 minutes just for one app server to start because the DB was located in Georgia and the App server was in Ohio. Our ultimate solution was to replicate the db to ohio and use the app servers in ohio (connecting to a local db in ohio) as hot backups just in case the ones in georgia goes down. What Axton said below is pretty much our setup (except we have 3 app servers and 4 mid-tier). The only thing we added was a hot backup environment in another location. Hope that helps, Sean -Original Message- From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) [mailto:arsl...@arslist.org] On Behalf Of Axton Sent: Friday, December 04, 2009 10:42 AM To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG Subject: Re: How to implement HA architecture? One more thing to add. You need to configure health checks in the F5 for the midtier and arserver nodes. I have not fully vetted any of these approaches, but these are my thoughts: ARS: 1. port check (this mostly works) 2. iRules in the F5 to simulate a session Midtier: 1. HTTP post to a page that the web server displays 2. HTTP post to a page that the servlet container renders (midtier config) 3. HTTP post to a page that the midtier renders (home page) 4. port check Axton Grams The opinions, statements, and/or suggested courses of action expressed in this E-mail do not necessarily reflect those of BMC Software, Inc. My voluntary participation in this forum is not intended to convey a role as a spokesperson, liaison or public relations representative for BMC Software, Inc. On Fri, Dec 4, 2009 at 9:40 AM, Axton axton.gr...@gmail.com wrote: For ARS: - Create an F5 farm for udp/111, tcp/111, and the port ars listens on - Enable session persistence based on src ip (needed due to floating licenses) - Configure a server group in ARS For MidTier: - Create and F5 farm for tcp/80 and tcp/443 - Enable session persistence based on src ip (needed because midtier does not synchronize/use central store for session information) When you configure the midtier as to what arservers to point to, there are a couple of options: - point it to the ars farm: this causes issues because all midtier sessions go to the same arserver - point each midtier server to the individual server When working with the F5, you need the arservers to be on a network that gives a route to the db that does not traverse the F5. This is typically accomlished using a back end network that the arservers and db servers are connected to. Axton Grams The opinions, statements,
Re: How to implement HA architecture?
Axton, Thank you very much! Finial questions: does this means F5 is the only possible HA solution for Remedy system? If the customer don't have F5 for this project, is there any HA solution existing? Regards, Martin 2009/12/5 Axton axton.gr...@gmail.com You can create many farms on a single F5 (of any type you choose). If one arserver is down, things should just keep working as if nothing were wrong. If you are going with a farm with many active nodes, I do not see the need for MS Clustering. Axton Grams The opinions, statements, and/or suggested courses of action expressed in this E-mail do not necessarily reflect those of BMC Software, Inc. My voluntary participation in this forum is not intended to convey a role as a spokesperson, liaison or public relations representative for BMC Software, Inc. On Sat, Dec 5, 2009 at 2:49 AM, Martin Liu liuz...@gmail.com wrote: ** Thanks you all! I learned a lot from you guys. But I still got something to confirm. What I have: 1) 4 physical machines MS Windows OS(2 for Mid-tier, 2 for ARS); 2) One physical F5 device; 3)One Oracle RAC hosting DB for ARS. My customer is primarily using Web client. Q1)Can I create two farms on one single F5 device? one for Mid-tier; one for ARS. Does this configuration have HA capability for ARS? I mean if one ARS server down, the whole system is still working. Q2)Does MS cluster provide one single entry and HA function for two ARS servers? I mean two ARS servers within one server group. If one ARS server down, MS cluster will switch to another ARS server. And this server will still pick up Administrative Operations, Escalation, Reconciliation, etc... Does MS cluster service equal to a F5 device from HA point view? I will post F5 device model that you may know. Best regards! Martin 2009/12/5 Kelly Deaver kdea...@kellydeaver.com ** You may find this presentation handy as well. It was my attempt to pull together the info in all the various install manuals - http://communities.bmc.com/communities/docs/DOC-2841 Kelly Deaver Effective Technologies www.effect-tech.com kdea...@kellydeaver.com (ARSlist mail) ke...@effect-tech.com (Business mail) Original Message Subject: Re: How to implement HA architecture? From: Garrison, Sean (Norcross) sean.garri...@fiserv.com Date: Fri, December 04, 2009 3:12 pm To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG True high availability allows your server to still be up and running if one of the locations goes down. This is pretty much impossible with remedy because the app server is highly dependent on the connection to the db. We tried it with one of our remote locations and it took 45 minutes just for one app server to start because the DB was located in Georgia and the App server was in Ohio. Our ultimate solution was to replicate the db to ohio and use the app servers in ohio (connecting to a local db in ohio) as hot backups just in case the ones in georgia goes down. What Axton said below is pretty much our setup (except we have 3 app servers and 4 mid-tier). The only thing we added was a hot backup environment in another location. Hope that helps, Sean -Original Message- From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) [mailto:arsl...@arslist.org] On Behalf Of Axton Sent: Friday, December 04, 2009 10:42 AM To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG Subject: Re: How to implement HA architecture? One more thing to add. You need to configure health checks in the F5 for the midtier and arserver nodes. I have not fully vetted any of these approaches, but these are my thoughts: ARS: 1. port check (this mostly works) 2. iRules in the F5 to simulate a session Midtier: 1. HTTP post to a page that the web server displays 2. HTTP post to a page that the servlet container renders (midtier config) 3. HTTP post to a page that the midtier renders (home page) 4. port check Axton Grams The opinions, statements, and/or suggested courses of action expressed in this E-mail do not necessarily reflect those of BMC Software, Inc. My voluntary participation in this forum is not intended to convey a role as a spokesperson, liaison or public relations representative for BMC Software, Inc. On Fri, Dec 4, 2009 at 9:40 AM, Axton axton.gr...@gmail.com wrote: For ARS: - Create an F5 farm for udp/111, tcp/111, and the port ars listens on - Enable session persistence based on src ip (needed due to floating licenses) - Configure a server group in ARS For MidTier: - Create and F5 farm for tcp/80 and tcp/443 - Enable session persistence based on src ip (needed because midtier does not synchronize/use central store for session information) When you configure the midtier as to what arservers to point to, there are a couple of options: - point it to the ars farm: this causes issues
Re: Changing data within SHR:SchemaNames form
Victor/Michael, I did change the propername without too much problems, but what I am after also is regrouping the menu options under different groups and renaming them, and I believe the data for this is held in UserClassName fields.. but never mind, I will have to keep things the way they look :) Many thanks frex --- En date de : Ven 4.12.09, Luttmann, Michael W CTR USA michael.luttm...@us.army.mil a écrit : De: Luttmann, Michael W CTR USA michael.luttm...@us.army.mil Objet: Re: Changing data within SHR:SchemaNames form À: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG Date: Vendredi 4 Décembre 2009, 17h49 I have modified this form for a custom class without any problems. (With the OOTB process for custom classes, you end up with ugly names.) So I fixed the Proper Name (for the Asset Management menu). ** ADVISORY: IF you want to change the Lookup Keyword (which should look like BMC_CLASSNAME, but with custom classes ends up looking more like a GUID), you also have to update Class Id on the OBJSTR:Class form to match. HTH, Michael W. Luttmann Lead Remedy Developer Fort Carson NEC If you dislike change, you’re going to dislike irrelevance even more. -- GEN Shinseki -Original Message- From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) [mailto:arsl...@arslist.org] On Behalf Of Victor Olufowobi Sent: Friday, December 04, 2009 4:29 AM To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG Subject: Re: Changing data within SHR:SchemaNames form ** Frex, I have actually changed the ProperName value in my production environment to provide meaningful menu to my users with no consequences. I don't know about the UserClassName02 HTH Victor On Fri 04/12/09 11:00 , Frex Popo frexp...@yahoo.fr sent: ** Hello everyone, Did anyone attempt to change the data in the SHR:SchemaNames for the CMDB classes? I would like to know what can be modified (if at all) and what can not be touched i.e. data in fields such as ProperNane, UserClassName02 and UserClassName03 in order to change the labels and reorder the menu options of the different classes/forms in the Manage CI menus in the Asset Management console? CMDB2.1 Patch003 Many thanks frex _Platinum Sponsor: rmisoluti...@verizon.net ARSlist: Where the Answers Are_ _Platinum Sponsor: rmisoluti...@verizon.net ARSlist: Where the Answers Are_ ___ UNSUBSCRIBE or access ARSlist Archives at www.arslist.org Platinum Sponsor:rmisoluti...@verizon.net ARSlist: Where the Answers Are
DSL 2.1 - ITSM 7.0.3 patch 7 - DSL Performance issues
All, Has anyone run into issues where search menus and other drop downs just hang because of inefficient SQL queries? A lot of the menus (the Product File Lookup form search menu for File ID for example), does a LIKE query against a huge number of records. The thing is, this is OOB with the DSL data load provided by BMC. Is there a way to optimize these menus without a lot of custom work? I guess I can always reach out to the DBA to see if he can work some magic on indexes. I do see that the field being searched on is indexed on the form, but obviously it is not helping. Tauf Chowdhury | Forest Laboratories, Inc. Analyst, Service Management Informatics-Infrastructure Office: 631.858.7765 Mobile:646.483.2779 ** This e-mail and its attachments may contain Forest Laboratories, Inc. proprietary information that is privileged, confidential or subject to copyright belonging to Forest Laboratories, Inc. This e-mail is intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to which it is addressed. If you are not the intended recipient of this e-mail, or the employee or agent responsible for delivering this e-mail to the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any dissemination, distribution, copying or action taken in relation to the contents of and attachments to this e-mail is strictly prohibited and may be unlawful. If you have received this e-mail in error, please notify the sender immediately and permanently delete the original and any copy of this e-mail and any printout. ___ UNSUBSCRIBE or access ARSlist Archives at www.arslist.org Platinum Sponsor:rmisoluti...@verizon.net ARSlist: Where the Answers Are
Re: Passing Variables between Change and Task
I was hoping to use the CAI system rather than customise. I've got as far as being able to see the correct data using the Command Launch buttons, on create it also changes the labels of the char fields on the Data tab to my variable names but the data doesn't appear. Matt -Original Message- From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) [mailto:arsl...@arslist.org] On Behalf Of Roger Justice Sent: 04 December 2009 7:10 PM To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG Subject: Re: Passing Variables between Change and Task Create a filter on Change that does a push fields to Task where the Parent ID on Task equals the Change ID. -Original Message- From: Matt Worsdell m...@worsy.co.uk To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG Sent: Fri, Dec 4, 2009 1:49 pm Subject: Passing Variables between Change and Task ** Does anyone have some step by step examples of achieving the above? Matt _Platinum Sponsor: rmisoluti...@verizon.net ARSlist: Where the Answers Are_ ___ UNSUBSCRIBE or access ARSlist Archives at www.arslist.org Platinum Sponsor:rmisoluti...@verizon.net ARSlist: Where the Answers Are ___ UNSUBSCRIBE or access ARSlist Archives at www.arslist.org Platinum Sponsor:rmisoluti...@verizon.net ARSlist: Where the Answers Are
Re: Cannot get an output from Service filter
LJ, I can't thank you enough for your suggestions. You saved a lot of fruitless debugging hours I connected using 7.1 client as suggested - the AL returned the necessary value, then I connected using web client - the AL returned the necessary value ! Thank you very much - i guess i need to report this bug Victor On Fri 04/12/09 20:12 , LJ Longwing lj.longw...@gmail.com sent: Oksee if you can get a 7.1 client to connect and use the guide to see if it returns what's needed (might not be possible).but you may have found a bug with 7.5 and client side service calls. You might want to try a simpler service to see if that works any better. -Original Message- From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) [arsl...@arslist.org [1]] On Behalf Of Victor Sent: Friday, December 04, 2009 9:31 AM To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG [2] Subject: Re: Cannot get an output from Service filter Yes LJ, I mean ARsystem 7.5 patch 3 with ITSM 7.6 Native; MidTier - Tomcat 5..2 ___ UNSUBSCRIBE or access ARSlist Archives at www.arslist.org [3] Platinum Sponsor:rmisoluti...@verizon.net [4] ARSlist: Where the Answers Are ___ UNSUBSCRIBE or access ARSlist Archives at www.arslist.org [5] Platinum Sponsor:rmisoluti...@verizon.net [6] ARSlist: Where the Answers Are Links: -- [1] mailto:arslist@ARSLIST.ORG [2] mailto:arslist@ARSLIST.ORG [3] http://www.arslist.org [4] mailto:rmisoluti...@verizon.net [5] http://www.arslist.org [6] mailto:rmisoluti...@verizon.net ___ UNSUBSCRIBE or access ARSlist Archives at www.arslist.org Platinum Sponsor:rmisoluti...@verizon.net ARSlist: Where the Answers Are
Re: Cannot get an output from Service filter
User Tool 75.p3 was refreshed because of a defect in this area. The updated version shows as 7.5 patch 3a in the Help, About screen. The installers available from the BMC website have been updated with the newer version. Mark From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) [mailto:arsl...@arslist.org] On Behalf Of Victor Olufowobi Sent: 05 December 2009 17:22 To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG Subject: Re: Cannot get an output from Service filter ** LJ, I can't thank you enough for your suggestions. You saved a lot of fruitless debugging hours I connected using 7.1 client as suggested - the AL returned the necessary value, then I connected using web client - the AL returned the necessary value ! Thank you very much - i guess i need to report this bug Victor On Fri 04/12/09 20:12 , LJ Longwing lj.longw...@gmail.com sent: Oksee if you can get a 7.1 client to connect and use the guide to see if it returns what's needed (might not be possible).but you may have found a bug with 7.5 and client side service calls. You might want to try a simpler service to see if that works any better. -Original Message- From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) [arsl...@arslist.orgmailto:arslist@ARSLIST.ORG] On Behalf Of Victor Sent: Friday, December 04, 2009 9:31 AM To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORGmailto:arslist@ARSLIST.ORG Subject: Re: Cannot get an output from Service filter Yes LJ, I mean ARsystem 7.5 patch 3 with ITSM 7.6 Native; MidTier - Tomcat 5..2 ___ UNSUBSCRIBE or access ARSlist Archives at www.arslist.orghttp://www.arslist.org Platinum Sponsor:rmisoluti...@verizon.netmailto:rmisoluti...@verizon.net ARSlist: Where the Answers Are ___ UNSUBSCRIBE or access ARSlist Archives at www.arslist.orghttp://www.arslist.org Platinum Sponsor:rmisoluti...@verizon.netmailto:rmisoluti...@verizon.net ARSlist: Where the Answers Are _Platinum Sponsor: rmisoluti...@verizon.net ARSlist: Where the Answers Ar
Re: How to implement HA architecture?
There are many other solutions that are just as viable. The concept is that of a reverse proxy and/or a load balancer. BigIP has gone to lengths to: 1. add bells and whistles to their devices to make the configuration, administration, and maintenance as easy as possible. 2. choose the best hardware for the job at hand They are in essence the 800lb gorilla in this arena. The BigIP LTM's run on a Linux kernel; they used to run on a BSD kernel. There are a number of open source programs that implement similar functionality and there are other vendors that offer competitive products: Open Source: squid, varnish, ... Proprietary: Cisco ACE, Radware AppDirector, Barracuda Load Balancer, ... The open source offerings are generally limited to web traffic (http/https). There is a lot to be gained by the hardware in these types of devices (performance, scalability, reliability, capability) and as such they are generally marketed and sold as network appliances, not a software solution; an area that the open source model does not address very well. See here for more information: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reverse_proxy http://blog.loadbalancer.org/load-balancer-comparison-a-refreshingly-simple-comparison-of-load-balancing-hardware-specifications/ Axton Grams The opinions, statements, and/or suggested courses of action expressed in this E-mail do not necessarily reflect those of BMC Software, Inc. My voluntary participation in this forum is not intended to convey a role as a spokesperson, liaison or public relations representative for BMC Software, Inc. On Sat, Dec 5, 2009 at 7:08 AM, Martin Liu liuz...@gmail.com wrote: ** Axton, Thank you very much! Finial questions: does this means F5 is the only possible HA solution for Remedy system? If the customer don't have F5 for this project, is there any HA solution existing? Regards, Martin 2009/12/5 Axton axton.gr...@gmail.com You can create many farms on a single F5 (of any type you choose). If one arserver is down, things should just keep working as if nothing were wrong. If you are going with a farm with many active nodes, I do not see the need for MS Clustering. Axton Grams The opinions, statements, and/or suggested courses of action expressed in this E-mail do not necessarily reflect those of BMC Software, Inc. My voluntary participation in this forum is not intended to convey a role as a spokesperson, liaison or public relations representative for BMC Software, Inc. On Sat, Dec 5, 2009 at 2:49 AM, Martin Liu liuz...@gmail.com wrote: ** Thanks you all! I learned a lot from you guys. But I still got something to confirm. What I have: 1) 4 physical machines MS Windows OS(2 for Mid-tier, 2 for ARS); 2) One physical F5 device; 3)One Oracle RAC hosting DB for ARS. My customer is primarily using Web client. Q1)Can I create two farms on one single F5 device? one for Mid-tier; one for ARS. Does this configuration have HA capability for ARS? I mean if one ARS server down, the whole system is still working. Q2)Does MS cluster provide one single entry and HA function for two ARS servers? I mean two ARS servers within one server group. If one ARS server down, MS cluster will switch to another ARS server. And this server will still pick up Administrative Operations, Escalation, Reconciliation, etc... Does MS cluster service equal to a F5 device from HA point view? I will post F5 device model that you may know. Best regards! Martin 2009/12/5 Kelly Deaver kdea...@kellydeaver.com ** You may find this presentation handy as well. It was my attempt to pull together the info in all the various install manuals - http://communities.bmc.com/communities/docs/DOC-2841 Kelly Deaver Effective Technologies www.effect-tech.com kdea...@kellydeaver.com (ARSlist mail) ke...@effect-tech.com (Business mail) Original Message Subject: Re: How to implement HA architecture? From: Garrison, Sean (Norcross) sean.garri...@fiserv.com Date: Fri, December 04, 2009 3:12 pm To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG True high availability allows your server to still be up and running if one of the locations goes down. This is pretty much impossible with remedy because the app server is highly dependent on the connection to the db. We tried it with one of our remote locations and it took 45 minutes just for one app server to start because the DB was located in Georgia and the App server was in Ohio. Our ultimate solution was to replicate the db to ohio and use the app servers in ohio (connecting to a local db in ohio) as hot backups just in case the ones in georgia goes down. What Axton said below is pretty much our setup (except we have 3 app servers and 4 mid-tier). The only thing we added was a hot backup environment in another location. Hope that helps, Sean -Original Message- From: Action Request