Re: Is there any explanation for Canceled filter processing due to error?

2010-10-01 Thread koray
One additional information: user does not even receive any error or
warning.

On Oct 1, 3:25 am, LJ LongWing lj.longw...@gmail.com wrote:
 But there is WAY too little time between the select and the rollback to have
 requested user feedback and have received ittalking less than a tenth of
 a second.



 -Original Message-
 From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList)

 [mailto:arsl...@arslist.org] On Behalf Of Grooms, Frederick W
 Sent: Thursday, September 30, 2010 6:01 PM
 To: arsl...@arslist.org
 Subject: Re: Is there any explanation for Canceled filter processing due to
 error?

 The snippet tells the whole story...   Select C6 ...

 The Last Modified Date has changed from when the record was pulled at the
 start of the transaction.  A user should have received the This record has
 been updated by another user since you retrieved it. error (Error 1203) and
 the user chose not to save the record.

 Fred

 -Original Message-
 From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList)
 [mailto:arsl...@arslist.org] On Behalf Of LJ LongWing
 Sent: Thursday, September 30, 2010 9:16 AM
 To: arsl...@arslist.org
 Subject: Re: Is there any explanation for Canceled filter processing due to
 error?

 With the snipit you provided, I cannot see it, but it's obvious that
 somewhere earlier in your process something caused the DB to issue a
 rollback...you just need to find the 'what'

 -Original Message-
 From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList)
 [mailto:arsl...@arslist.org] On Behalf Of koray
 Sent: Thursday, September 30, 2010 2:04 AM
 To: arsl...@arslist.org
 Subject: Re: Is there any explanation for Canceled filter processing due to
 error?

 Thanks for the feedback,

 I have had faced with a similar issue - a completely different one but
 identical to your example :
 - A script does a Push Fields to a form, but gets ARERR 382.
 - However, the Submit filters are executed after the operation as
 regular.
 - At the end of Phase, Canceled filter processing due to error
 appears.

 The .log file has the line
 /* UPDATE xxx SET ...
 /*
 /* ROLLBACK

 This totally seems to be okay, and supports your example.

 On the other hand, the current case has all queries seem to be
 executed successfully - ending with /* OK.

 So I cannot see why or which statement fails at all.

 BR,
 Koray

 On Sep 29, 5:57 pm, LJ LongWing lj.longw...@gmail.com wrote:
  Koray,
  You have your answer right thereor more than likely, somewhere earlier
  upbut the result is right there.

   /* Tue Sep 28 2010 12:24:43.4319 */ROLLBACK WORK

  I experience this type of scenario when I issue an out of phase delete of
 a
  record that I'm updating...here is my typical scenario

  I want to delete a recordthe easiest way to do a delete is to push to
  that record and set a 'delete' field to 'yes', and have a filter on that
  form do a record delete if that flag is yes

  Well...if that filter does an out of phase delete (phase 1), when phase 2
  goes through and tries to update the last mod by and last mod date on the
  record, that record doesn't exist, and as such, the db throws an error and
  causes a rollback...

  I don't know what your scenario is, but something in your processing is
  causing the db to throw and error and rollback the transaction.

  -Original Message-
  From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList)

  [mailto:arsl...@arslist.org] On Behalf Of koray
  Sent: Wednesday, September 29, 2010 1:47 AM
  To: arsl...@arslist.org
  Subject: Re: Is there any explanation for Canceled filter processing due
 to
  error?

  And here is the SQL .log file corresponding to the same process :

   /* Tue Sep 28 2010 12:24:43.4296 */SELECT C6 FROM T904 WHERE C1 =
  '1308884'
   /* Tue Sep 28 2010 12:24:43.4317 */OK
   /* Tue Sep 28 2010 12:24:43.4319 */ROLLBACK WORK
   /* Tue Sep 28 2010 12:24:43.4697 */COMMIT WORK
   /* Tue Sep 28 2010 12:24:43.4705 */COMMIT WORK
   /* Tue Sep 28 2010 12:24:45.3386 */SELECT
 C1,C2,C3,C4,C5,C6,C7,C8,C112,...
   /* Tue Sep 28 2010 12:24:45.3738 */OK

  On Sep 29, 10:03 am, koray ko...@alkankoray.net wrote:
   Hello all,

   I have a weird issue that seems to be happening continously. Below is
   a portion from server-side filter .log file that took my attention:

/* Tue Sep 28 2010 12:24:43.4127 */     End of filter processing
 (phase
  1) -- Operation - SET on ZZZ - AD01589874
/* Tue Sep 28 2010 12:24:43.4130 */     Restart of filter processing
  (phase 2) -- Operation - SET on YYY - 1308884
/* Tue Sep 28 2010 12:24:43.4159 */     Filter Level:0 Number Of
  Filters:404 Checking IMSA:MAIN:TASK:Task:Get WIP Task
        0: Push Fields - IMSA:MAIN:Automated Pending:Task
              deferred from filter IMSA:MAIN:TASK:Task:Get WIP Task
/* Tue Sep 28 2010 12:24:43.4189 */     End of filter processing
 (phase
  2) -- Operation - SET on YYY - 1308884
/* Tue Sep 28 2010 12:24:43.4710 */Canceled 

WOI:WOI:CreateSetRequestor_106_Group Issue

2010-10-01 Thread Pierson, Shawn
Good morning,

I've run into an error with Work Order 7.5 where if you belong to a support 
group that is a part of a different company, you can't submit a Work Order 
because your support group doesn't match up with your company.  Specifically, 
I'm trying to use a Work Order Template that has several Tasks associated with 
it, and the error message comes up when the template tries to add the tasks in. 
 I've determined that the quickest way to resolve this issue is to disable the 
Active Link WOI:WOI:CreateSetRequestor_106_Group, especially since those fields 
seem to serve no real purpose.

So I come to you all to ask, am I correct in that those fields serve no 
purpose?  I've tested with that Active Link disabled and everything seems to 
work correctly, but perhaps I'm missing some bigger picture thing.

Thanks,

Shawn Pierson
Remedy Developer | Southern Union


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Re: Is there any explanation for Canceled filter processing due to error?

2010-10-01 Thread Mueller, Doug
The interaction is that the user gets an ERROR indicating that there was a
conflict and then they get the choice.  If they say to continue, the operation
is performed again.  If they cancel it is not performed again.

So, the time is immediate -- error on the conflict (and a rollback) and then the
user gets the option to continue and override the error by applying again
or to cancel.

Doug 

-Original Message-
From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) 
[mailto:arsl...@arslist.org] On Behalf Of LJ LongWing
Sent: Thursday, September 30, 2010 5:26 PM
To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
Subject: Re: Is there any explanation for Canceled filter processing due to 
error?

But there is WAY too little time between the select and the rollback to have
requested user feedback and have received ittalking less than a tenth of
a second.

-Original Message-
From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList)
[mailto:arsl...@arslist.org] On Behalf Of Grooms, Frederick W
Sent: Thursday, September 30, 2010 6:01 PM
To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
Subject: Re: Is there any explanation for Canceled filter processing due to
error?

The snippet tells the whole story...   Select C6 ...

The Last Modified Date has changed from when the record was pulled at the
start of the transaction.  A user should have received the This record has
been updated by another user since you retrieved it. error (Error 1203) and
the user chose not to save the record.

Fred

-Original Message-
From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList)
[mailto:arsl...@arslist.org] On Behalf Of LJ LongWing
Sent: Thursday, September 30, 2010 9:16 AM
To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
Subject: Re: Is there any explanation for Canceled filter processing due to
error?

With the snipit you provided, I cannot see it, but it's obvious that
somewhere earlier in your process something caused the DB to issue a
rollback...you just need to find the 'what'

-Original Message-
From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList)
[mailto:arsl...@arslist.org] On Behalf Of koray
Sent: Thursday, September 30, 2010 2:04 AM
To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
Subject: Re: Is there any explanation for Canceled filter processing due to
error?

Thanks for the feedback,

I have had faced with a similar issue - a completely different one but
identical to your example :
- A script does a Push Fields to a form, but gets ARERR 382.
- However, the Submit filters are executed after the operation as
regular.
- At the end of Phase, Canceled filter processing due to error
appears.

The .log file has the line
/* UPDATE xxx SET ...
/*
/* ROLLBACK

This totally seems to be okay, and supports your example.

On the other hand, the current case has all queries seem to be
executed successfully - ending with /* OK.

So I cannot see why or which statement fails at all.

BR,
Koray

On Sep 29, 5:57 pm, LJ LongWing lj.longw...@gmail.com wrote:
 Koray,
 You have your answer right thereor more than likely, somewhere earlier
 upbut the result is right there.

  /* Tue Sep 28 2010 12:24:43.4319 */ROLLBACK WORK

 I experience this type of scenario when I issue an out of phase delete of
a
 record that I'm updating...here is my typical scenario

 I want to delete a recordthe easiest way to do a delete is to push to
 that record and set a 'delete' field to 'yes', and have a filter on that
 form do a record delete if that flag is yes

 Well...if that filter does an out of phase delete (phase 1), when phase 2
 goes through and tries to update the last mod by and last mod date on the
 record, that record doesn't exist, and as such, the db throws an error and
 causes a rollback...

 I don't know what your scenario is, but something in your processing is
 causing the db to throw and error and rollback the transaction.



 -Original Message-
 From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList)

 [mailto:arsl...@arslist.org] On Behalf Of koray
 Sent: Wednesday, September 29, 2010 1:47 AM
 To: arsl...@arslist.org
 Subject: Re: Is there any explanation for Canceled filter processing due
to
 error?

 And here is the SQL .log file corresponding to the same process :

  /* Tue Sep 28 2010 12:24:43.4296 */SELECT C6 FROM T904 WHERE C1 =
 '1308884'
  /* Tue Sep 28 2010 12:24:43.4317 */OK
  /* Tue Sep 28 2010 12:24:43.4319 */ROLLBACK WORK
  /* Tue Sep 28 2010 12:24:43.4697 */COMMIT WORK
  /* Tue Sep 28 2010 12:24:43.4705 */COMMIT WORK
  /* Tue Sep 28 2010 12:24:45.3386 */SELECT
C1,C2,C3,C4,C5,C6,C7,C8,C112,...
  /* Tue Sep 28 2010 12:24:45.3738 */OK

 On Sep 29, 10:03 am, koray ko...@alkankoray.net wrote:
  Hello all,

  I have a weird issue that seems to be happening continously. Below is
  a portion from server-side filter .log file that took my attention:

   /* Tue Sep 28 2010 12:24:43.4127 */     End of filter processing
(phase
 1) -- Operation - SET on ZZZ - AD01589874
   /* Tue Sep 28 2010 12:24:43.4130 */     Restart of filter processing
 (phase 2) -- Operation - SET on YYY - 

Re: Table field content change Execution Option

2010-10-01 Thread Jason Miller
Interesting...  So you see the option?  Is it right there in the Execution
Options section?

Here is a screen prints of the form (it has two editable columns which posed
some challenges) and the AL in DS. (apologies to those that cannot get to
Picasa)

http://picasaweb.google.com/lh/sredir?uname=103809916737874607970target=ALBUMid=5523157893439853409authkey=Gv1sRgCI-3itaspOORvwEinvite=CJ6dltEMfeat=email

Jason

On Thu, Sep 30, 2010 at 10:37 PM, Jarl Grøneng jarl.gron...@gmail.comwrote:

 Hi,

 Using this:
- Refreshing the table, for example, when the user selects Refresh
 or Refresh All from the pop-up menu

 On a 7.5p4 serve, and it works as documented. (dev studio 7.5p3)

 --
 J

 2010/9/30 Jason Miller jason.mil...@gmail.com:
  ** Has anybody seen the Table field content change as an Active Link
  Execution Option in Dev Studio?  We have an editable check box in a table
  field where I want to update the source data record as soon as the check
 box
  is checked/unchecked.  This sounds like it is exactly what I need but I
  don't see it as an option in Dev Studio.
 
  I have tried setting both the table field and the column as the Field:.
  Used both ARS 7.5 p1 and p5 with DS 7.5 p5 and 7.6.03.  I even tried the
  Admin tool for kicks.
 
  7.5 Workflow Objects Guide, Pg 28
  Executes when the contents of a table are refreshed in any of the
 following
  ways:
  - Loading the field. In the web client, this occurs when the form
 data
  is refreshed at predefined intervals
  - Refreshing the table, for example, when the user selects Refresh or
  Refresh All from the pop-up menu
  - Choosing to view the next or previous chunk, for example, when the
  user selects Next chunk or Previous chunk from the pop-up menu
  - Clearing the table, for example, when the user selects Clear Table
  from the pop-up menu
  - When the user changes the value of an editable column in the table
  field.
 
  This sounds like a wonderful newer feature (I didn't see it in the 7.5
  release notes, when was it added?).  I have run into similar situations
 in
  the past where I needed to update the data instantly when a value in an
  editable column changes.  Any ideas?
 
  Thanks,
  Jason
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CMDB 2.0 application vs. application system

2010-10-01 Thread Martinez, Marcelo A
What is the difference between BMC.CORE:BMC_Application and 
BMC.CORE:BMC_ApplicationSystem?

I am looking for docs that specify the definition of each. But can't find it.. 
going to BMCs site now but perhaps someone out there knows

TIA,
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Re: Table field content change Execution Option

2010-10-01 Thread Mueller, Doug
I think the issue here is a misreading/misunderstanding of the feature.

This feature -- as confirmed by another posting -- does work in the 7.5 and 
later (I think it was added in 7.5)
releases.

It is when the TABLE FIELD content changes.  Not when an editable cell in an 
editable column in a table field
changes.  It is when the TABLE FIELD content changes.

As the doc notes:

When the table is initially loaded
When the table is refreshed
When the table goes to the next/previous chunk

When the table contents change not when a column content of an editable column 
changes.

You should find this feature working correctly as documented once remembering 
that the TABLE FIELD is
the entire field the table is in not a column or an editable cell within a 
column.


You can do table walks and there are keywords that will tell you if the content 
of the columns in the table
row have changed (not which one if there are several editable columns, but just 
that something has
changed in some editable column).  There is no condition at this time that 
fires at the point of change of
the value.

(Although, if you use advanced tables and have things laid out and columns are 
shown as fields you may be
able to put things like gain and loss of focus on those fields and things may 
work  but I am not sure.  If
not, it would be an interesting enhancement request if I do say so myself)

Anyway, this is another topic than the one of this note.

I hope this helps clarify things.

Doug Mueller


From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) 
[mailto:arsl...@arslist.org] On Behalf Of Jason Miller
Sent: Friday, October 01, 2010 12:47 PM
To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
Subject: Re: Table field content change Execution Option

** Interesting...  So you see the option?  Is it right there in the Execution 
Options section?

Here is a screen prints of the form (it has two editable columns which posed 
some challenges) and the AL in DS. (apologies to those that cannot get to 
Picasa)

http://picasaweb.google.com/lh/sredir?uname=103809916737874607970target=ALBUMid=5523157893439853409authkey=Gv1sRgCI-3itaspOORvwEinvite=CJ6dltEMfeat=email

Jason

On Thu, Sep 30, 2010 at 10:37 PM, Jarl Grøneng 
jarl.gron...@gmail.commailto:jarl.gron...@gmail.com wrote:
Hi,

Using this:
  - Refreshing the table, for example, when the user selects Refresh
or Refresh All from the pop-up menu

On a 7.5p4 serve, and it works as documented. (dev studio 7.5p3)

--
J

2010/9/30 Jason Miller jason.mil...@gmail.commailto:jason.mil...@gmail.com:
 ** Has anybody seen the Table field content change as an Active Link
 Execution Option in Dev Studio?  We have an editable check box in a table
 field where I want to update the source data record as soon as the check box
 is checked/unchecked.  This sounds like it is exactly what I need but I
 don't see it as an option in Dev Studio.

 I have tried setting both the table field and the column as the Field:.
 Used both ARS 7.5 p1 and p5 with DS 7.5 p5 and 7.6.03.  I even tried the
 Admin tool for kicks.

 7.5 Workflow Objects Guide, Pg 28
 Executes when the contents of a table are refreshed in any of the following
 ways:
 - Loading the field. In the web client, this occurs when the form data
 is refreshed at predefined intervals
 - Refreshing the table, for example, when the user selects Refresh or
 Refresh All from the pop-up menu
 - Choosing to view the next or previous chunk, for example, when the
 user selects Next chunk or Previous chunk from the pop-up menu
 - Clearing the table, for example, when the user selects Clear Table
 from the pop-up menu
 - When the user changes the value of an editable column in the table
 field.

 This sounds like a wonderful newer feature (I didn't see it in the 7.5
 release notes, when was it added?).  I have run into similar situations in
 the past where I needed to update the data instantly when a value in an
 editable column changes.  Any ideas?

 Thanks,
 Jason
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Re: Developer Studio without any perspective

2010-10-01 Thread Tristan Roppel
Hi,

I had the same problem some days before.
Be aware, that you are using the correct java version, 1.6 or newer.

Tristan

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Re: Table field content change Execution Option

2010-10-01 Thread Jason Miller
Thanks as always Doug.  I have a few questions.

What conditions need to be met for this option to appear in Dev Studio?  I
have the table field selected as the Field in the AL and I have tried
using the column as well.

The documentation appear to contradict your statement When the table
contents change not when a column content of an editable column changes with
this statement When the user changes the value of an editable column in the
table field.  Maybe it is poorly worded or a documentation bug but to me
they appear to be opposite statements.  Am I still completely
misunderstanding what the documentation is saying?

Thanks,
Jason

On Fri, Oct 1, 2010 at 12:56 PM, Mueller, Doug doug_muel...@bmc.com wrote:

 **
 I think the issue here is a misreading/misunderstanding of the feature.

 This feature -- as confirmed by another posting -- does work in the 7.5 and
 later (I think it was added in 7.5)
 releases.

 It is when the TABLE FIELD content changes.  Not when an editable cell in
 an editable column in a table field
 changes.  It is when the TABLE FIELD content changes.

 As the doc notes:

 When the table is initially loaded
 When the table is refreshed
 When the table goes to the next/previous chunk

 When the table contents change not when a column content of an editable
 column changes.

 You should find this feature working correctly as documented once
 remembering that the TABLE FIELD is
 the entire field the table is in not a column or an editable cell within a
 column.


 You can do table walks and there are keywords that will tell you if the
 content of the columns in the table
 row have changed (not which one if there are several editable columns, but
 just that something has
 changed in some editable column).  There is no condition at this time that
 fires at the point of change of
 the value.

 (Although, if you use advanced tables and have things laid out and columns
 are shown as fields you may be
 able to put things like gain and loss of focus on those fields and things
 may work  but I am not sure.  If
 not, it would be an interesting enhancement request if I do say so
 myself)

 Anyway, this is another topic than the one of this note.

 I hope this helps clarify things.

 Doug Mueller

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 *From:* Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) [mailto:
 arsl...@arslist.org] *On Behalf Of *Jason Miller
 *Sent:* Friday, October 01, 2010 12:47 PM
 *To:* arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
 *Subject:* Re: Table field content change Execution Option

 ** Interesting...  So you see the option?  Is it right there in the
 Execution Options section?


 Here is a screen prints of the form (it has two editable columns which
 posed some challenges) and the AL in DS. (apologies to those that cannot get
 to Picasa)


 http://picasaweb.google.com/lh/sredir?uname=103809916737874607970target=ALBUMid=5523157893439853409authkey=Gv1sRgCI-3itaspOORvwEinvite=CJ6dltEMfeat=email

 Jason

 On Thu, Sep 30, 2010 at 10:37 PM, Jarl Grøneng jarl.gron...@gmail.comwrote:

 Hi,

 Using this:
   - Refreshing the table, for example, when the user selects Refresh
 or Refresh All from the pop-up menu

 On a 7.5p4 serve, and it works as documented. (dev studio 7.5p3)

 --
 J

 2010/9/30 Jason Miller jason.mil...@gmail.com:
  ** Has anybody seen the Table field content change as an Active Link
   Execution Option in Dev Studio?  We have an editable check box in a
 table
  field where I want to update the source data record as soon as the check
 box
  is checked/unchecked.  This sounds like it is exactly what I need but I
  don't see it as an option in Dev Studio.
 
  I have tried setting both the table field and the column as the
 Field:.
  Used both ARS 7.5 p1 and p5 with DS 7.5 p5 and 7.6.03.  I even tried the
  Admin tool for kicks.
 
  7.5 Workflow Objects Guide, Pg 28
  Executes when the contents of a table are refreshed in any of the
 following
  ways:
  - Loading the field. In the web client, this occurs when the form
 data
  is refreshed at predefined intervals
  - Refreshing the table, for example, when the user selects Refresh
 or
  Refresh All from the pop-up menu
  - Choosing to view the next or previous chunk, for example, when the
  user selects Next chunk or Previous chunk from the pop-up menu
  - Clearing the table, for example, when the user selects Clear Table
  from the pop-up menu
  - When the user changes the value of an editable column in the table
  field.
 
  This sounds like a wonderful newer feature (I didn't see it in the 7.5
  release notes, when was it added?).  I have run into similar situations
 in
  the past where I needed to update the data instantly when a value in an
  editable column changes.  Any ideas?
 
  Thanks,
  Jason
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Re: Table field content change Execution Option

2010-10-01 Thread Jason Miller
Just for giggles I opened the 7.6.03 Workflow Objects Guide and there is no
reference to Table field content change like there is in the 7.5 guide (I
find it 3 times, once in the Active links: Execution options for request
and window actions table and twice in the Index).

Jason

On Fri, Oct 1, 2010 at 2:39 PM, Jason Miller jason.mil...@gmail.com wrote:

 Thanks as always Doug.  I have a few questions.

 What conditions need to be met for this option to appear in Dev Studio?  I
 have the table field selected as the Field in the AL and I have tried
 using the column as well.

 The documentation appear to contradict your statement When the table
 contents change not when a column content of an editable column changeswith 
 this statement When the user changes the value of an editable column
 in the table field.  Maybe it is poorly worded or a documentation bug but
 to me they appear to be opposite statements.  Am I still completely
 misunderstanding what the documentation is saying?

 Thanks,
 Jason


 On Fri, Oct 1, 2010 at 12:56 PM, Mueller, Doug doug_muel...@bmc.comwrote:

 **
 I think the issue here is a misreading/misunderstanding of the feature.

 This feature -- as confirmed by another posting -- does work in the 7.5
 and later (I think it was added in 7.5)
 releases.

 It is when the TABLE FIELD content changes.  Not when an editable cell in
 an editable column in a table field
 changes.  It is when the TABLE FIELD content changes.

 As the doc notes:

 When the table is initially loaded
 When the table is refreshed
 When the table goes to the next/previous chunk

 When the table contents change not when a column content of an editable
 column changes.

 You should find this feature working correctly as documented once
 remembering that the TABLE FIELD is
 the entire field the table is in not a column or an editable cell within a
 column.


 You can do table walks and there are keywords that will tell you if the
 content of the columns in the table
 row have changed (not which one if there are several editable columns, but
 just that something has
 changed in some editable column).  There is no condition at this time that
 fires at the point of change of
 the value.

 (Although, if you use advanced tables and have things laid out and columns
 are shown as fields you may be
 able to put things like gain and loss of focus on those fields and things
 may work  but I am not sure.  If
 not, it would be an interesting enhancement request if I do say so
 myself)

 Anyway, this is another topic than the one of this note.

 I hope this helps clarify things.

 Doug Mueller

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 *From:* Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) [mailto:
 arsl...@arslist.org] *On Behalf Of *Jason Miller
 *Sent:* Friday, October 01, 2010 12:47 PM
 *To:* arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
 *Subject:* Re: Table field content change Execution Option

 ** Interesting...  So you see the option?  Is it right there in the
 Execution Options section?


 Here is a screen prints of the form (it has two editable columns which
 posed some challenges) and the AL in DS. (apologies to those that cannot get
 to Picasa)


 http://picasaweb.google.com/lh/sredir?uname=103809916737874607970target=ALBUMid=5523157893439853409authkey=Gv1sRgCI-3itaspOORvwEinvite=CJ6dltEMfeat=email

 Jason

 On Thu, Sep 30, 2010 at 10:37 PM, Jarl Grøneng jarl.gron...@gmail.comwrote:

 Hi,

 Using this:
   - Refreshing the table, for example, when the user selects Refresh
 or Refresh All from the pop-up menu

 On a 7.5p4 serve, and it works as documented. (dev studio 7.5p3)

 --
 J

 2010/9/30 Jason Miller jason.mil...@gmail.com:
  ** Has anybody seen the Table field content change as an Active Link
   Execution Option in Dev Studio?  We have an editable check box in a
 table
  field where I want to update the source data record as soon as the
 check box
  is checked/unchecked.  This sounds like it is exactly what I need but I
  don't see it as an option in Dev Studio.
 
  I have tried setting both the table field and the column as the
 Field:.
  Used both ARS 7.5 p1 and p5 with DS 7.5 p5 and 7.6.03.  I even tried
 the
  Admin tool for kicks.
 
  7.5 Workflow Objects Guide, Pg 28
  Executes when the contents of a table are refreshed in any of the
 following
  ways:
  - Loading the field. In the web client, this occurs when the form
 data
  is refreshed at predefined intervals
  - Refreshing the table, for example, when the user selects Refresh
 or
  Refresh All from the pop-up menu
  - Choosing to view the next or previous chunk, for example, when
 the
  user selects Next chunk or Previous chunk from the pop-up menu
  - Clearing the table, for example, when the user selects Clear
 Table
  from the pop-up menu
  - When the user changes the value of an editable column in the
 table
  field.
 
  This sounds like a wonderful newer feature (I didn't see it in the 7.5
  release notes, when was it added?).  I have run into similar 

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2010-10-01 Thread Phil Murnane
All:

Please pardon the spam email from this account today.  The account has been 
secured again.

Looks like my password got hacked, sigh.  Perils of keeping the same email 
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