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Re: Fast v.s. List Threads
Hi, And to be a little bit less technical, a Submit or a Modify of HPD:HelpDesk might not really be Fast calls, but they are still handled by the Fast threads as they concern a single record only. This rule of *List* calls going to List threads is not 100%. But checking the logs will give you the details of that. But you are probably not interested in it on that level of detail anyway... Best Regards - Misi, RRR AB, http://www.rrr.se (ARSList MVP 2011) Ask the Remedy Licensing Experts (Best R.O.I. Award at WWRUG10/11/12/13): * RRR|License - Not enough Remedy licenses? Save money by optimizing. * RRR|Log - Performance issues or elusive bugs? Analyze your Remedy logs. Find these products, and many free tools and utilities, at http://rrr.se. To be slightly more technical than William, the fast threads handle all single API process requests, like a submit, and the list threads handle multiple API requests. Rick On Apr 29, 2014 2:35 PM, Andrew Fremont andrewfrem...@gmail.com wrote: ** Hi, What are the main differences between the two? I can't any docs about these threads. Which one handle the requests from users via Mid-tier, or WUT clients. Thanks _ARSlist: Where the Answers Are and have been for 20 years_ ___ UNSUBSCRIBE or access ARSlist Archives at www.arslist.org Where the Answers Are, and have been for 20 years ___ UNSUBSCRIBE or access ARSlist Archives at www.arslist.org Where the Answers Are, and have been for 20 years
Self-Terminating/disabling Escalation
Hello Experts, Please suggest is it possible to define a self-terminating escalation. I need to run an escalation just once, and then it should disable itself. I want to know is it possible to define an escalation which triggers some workflow to mark the calling parent escalation as disable. Any help would be highly appreciated. Regards, Sapna ___ UNSUBSCRIBE or access ARSlist Archives at www.arslist.org Where the Answers Are, and have been for 20 years
Re: Fast v.s. List Threads
Thought I would share this on the List. I put my ranty pants on for this one (no really, notice the tags): Why do I have to log into bmc.docs.com almost every time I open it? https://communities.bmc.com/message/424094 The recentish docs.bmc.com changes and need to enter credentials multiple times a day the has probably been experinece by many of you. Apparently this is by design. The response I received on a recent ticket for it: no secured system in the work arena will allow 1 day of session validity and at this time no changes will be made. (Login expiration is correctly configured. No secured system in the work will allow 1 day of session validity.) Multiple login is a known issue as we have different apps using different SSO solution. We are already working on that. You cannot have SSO/session active across multiple computers. This is basics of secured system.. I too am looking for an answer as to why is this documentation needs to be so secure? SNOW doesn't secure their doc. Jason On Tue, Apr 29, 2014 at 10:20 PM, Axton axton.gr...@gmail.com wrote: ** Just to help (maybe) solve a long standing problem, let me point this out. I ran a Google search for a quote from the excerpt you cited from the product documentation: The fast queue handles the operations that generally run to completion quickly Guess what result did not show up on the first page of results... BMC's product documentation... What logic they have to withhold their documentation from robots indexing it is beyond me. If memory serves me correctly BMC has gone to lengths to ensure that APIs, documentation, javadoc, systematic workflow documentation, etc. are not available on the web. Maybe someone can help me understand the logic here because it eludes me... On Tue, Apr 29, 2014 at 7:06 PM, William Rentfrow wrentf...@stratacominc.com wrote: ** This is straight out of the ARS configuration guide: *Fast queue* The fast queue handles the operations that generally run to completion quickly without blocking access to the database. The fast queue handles all server operations, except for: Administrative operations that restructure the database. These operations use the administration queue. The ARExport, ARGetListEntry, ARGetListEntryWithFields, and ARGetEntryStatistics, and other API calls (which use the list queue). For more information about API calls, see the *C API Reference*. One or more threads can serve the fast queue if a fast queue is configured. To configure a fast queue, see “Defining queues and configuring threads” on page 160*.* *List queue* The list queue handles AR System operations that might require significant time, block access to the database, or both. Examples of these operations include ARExport, ARGetListEntry, ARGetListEntryWithFields, and ARGetEntryStatistics. One or more threads can serve the list queue if a list queue is configured. To configure a list queue, see “Defining queues and configuring threads” on page 160. *From:* Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) [mailto: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG] *On Behalf Of *Andrew Fremont *Sent:* Tuesday, April 29, 2014 1:40 PM *To:* arslist@ARSLIST.ORG *Subject:* Fast v.s. List Threads ** Hi, What are the main differences between the two? I can't any docs about these threads. Which one handle the requests from users via Mid-tier, or WUT clients. Thanks _ARSlist: Where the Answers Are and have been for 20 years_ -- No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2014.0.4355 / Virus Database: 3882/7371 - Release Date: 04/20/14 Internal Virus Database is out of date. _ARSlist: Where the Answers Are and have been for 20 years_ _ARSlist: Where the Answers Are and have been for 20 years_ ___ UNSUBSCRIBE or access ARSlist Archives at www.arslist.org Where the Answers Are, and have been for 20 years
Re: Fast v.s. List Threads
Thanks for the information. Andrew. On Wed, Apr 30, 2014 at 7:33 AM, Campbell, Paul (Paul) p...@avaya.com wrote: ** Here is a link to a BMC Communities article that is the best I’ve ever seen about fast and list threads, good work from David Still https://communities.bmc.com/community/bmcdn/bmc_atrium_and_foundation_technologies/bmc_remedy_ar_system/blog/2013/09/13/the-pulse-addressing-server-side-performance-problems--queues-threads *From:* Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) [mailto: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG] *On Behalf Of *Axton *Sent:* Wednesday, April 30, 2014 1:20 AM *To:* arslist@ARSLIST.ORG *Subject:* Re: Fast v.s. List Threads ** Just to help (maybe) solve a long standing problem, let me point this out. I ran a Google search for a quote from the excerpt you cited from the product documentation: The fast queue handles the operations that generally run to completion quickly Guess what result did not show up on the first page of results... BMC's product documentation... What logic they have to withhold their documentation from robots indexing it is beyond me. If memory serves me correctly BMC has gone to lengths to ensure that APIs, documentation, javadoc, systematic workflow documentation, etc. are not available on the web. Maybe someone can help me understand the logic here because it eludes me... On Tue, Apr 29, 2014 at 7:06 PM, William Rentfrow wrentf...@stratacominc.com wrote: ** This is straight out of the ARS configuration guide: *Fast queue* The fast queue handles the operations that generally run to completion quickly without blocking access to the database. The fast queue handles all server operations, except for: Administrative operations that restructure the database. These operations use the administration queue. The ARExport, ARGetListEntry, ARGetListEntryWithFields, and ARGetEntryStatistics, and other API calls (which use the list queue). For more information about API calls, see the *C API Reference*. One or more threads can serve the fast queue if a fast queue is configured. To configure a fast queue, see “Defining queues and configuring threads” on page 160*.* *List queue* The list queue handles AR System operations that might require significant time, block access to the database, or both. Examples of these operations include ARExport, ARGetListEntry, ARGetListEntryWithFields, and ARGetEntryStatistics. One or more threads can serve the list queue if a list queue is configured. To configure a list queue, see “Defining queues and configuring threads” on page 160. *From:* Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) [mailto: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG] *On Behalf Of *Andrew Fremont *Sent:* Tuesday, April 29, 2014 1:40 PM *To:* arslist@ARSLIST.ORG *Subject:* Fast v.s. List Threads ** Hi, What are the main differences between the two? I can't any docs about these threads. Which one handle the requests from users via Mid-tier, or WUT clients. Thanks _ARSlist: Where the Answers Are and have been for 20 years_ -- No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2014.0.4355 / Virus Database: 3882/7371 - Release Date: 04/20/14 Internal Virus Database is out of date. _ARSlist: Where the Answers Are and have been for 20 years_ _ARSlist: Where the Answers Are and have been for 20 years_ _ARSlist: Where the Answers Are and have been for 20 years_ ___ UNSUBSCRIBE or access ARSlist Archives at www.arslist.org Where the Answers Are, and have been for 20 years
Re: Fast v.s. List Threads
Neither does Microsoft, Oracle, etc. Why put something onerous in the way of customers? Should be making it much easier to use to get help, rather than harder….. From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) [mailto:arslist@ARSLIST.ORG] On Behalf Of Jason Miller Sent: Wednesday, April 30, 2014 2:30 PM To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG Subject: Re: Fast v.s. List Threads ** Thought I would share this on the List. I put my ranty pants on for this one (no really, notice the tags): Why do I have to log into bmc.docs.com almost every time I open it?https://communities.bmc.com/message/424094 The recentish docs.bmc.comhttp://docs.bmc.com changes and need to enter credentials multiple times a day the has probably been experinece by many of you. Apparently this is by design. The response I received on a recent ticket for it: no secured system in the work arena will allow 1 day of session validity and at this time no changes will be made. (Login expiration is correctly configured. No secured system in the work will allow 1 day of session validity.) Multiple login is a known issue as we have different apps using different SSO solution. We are already working on that. You cannot have SSO/session active across multiple computers. This is basics of secured system.. I too am looking for an answer as to why is this documentation needs to be so secure? SNOW doesn't secure their doc. Jason On Tue, Apr 29, 2014 at 10:20 PM, Axton axton.gr...@gmail.commailto:axton.gr...@gmail.com wrote: ** Just to help (maybe) solve a long standing problem, let me point this out. I ran a Google search for a quote from the excerpt you cited from the product documentation: The fast queue handles the operations that generally run to completion quickly Guess what result did not show up on the first page of results... BMC's product documentation... What logic they have to withhold their documentation from robots indexing it is beyond me. If memory serves me correctly BMC has gone to lengths to ensure that APIs, documentation, javadoc, systematic workflow documentation, etc. are not available on the web. Maybe someone can help me understand the logic here because it eludes me... On Tue, Apr 29, 2014 at 7:06 PM, William Rentfrow wrentf...@stratacominc.commailto:wrentf...@stratacominc.com wrote: ** This is straight out of the ARS configuration guide: Fast queue The fast queue handles the operations that generally run to completion quickly without blocking access to the database. The fast queue handles all server operations, except for: Administrative operations that restructure the database. These operations use the administration queue. The ARExport, ARGetListEntry, ARGetListEntryWithFields, and ARGetEntryStatistics, and other API calls (which use the list queue). For more information about API calls, see the C API Reference. One or more threads can serve the fast queue if a fast queue is configured. To configure a fast queue, see “Defining queues and configuring threads” on page 160. List queue The list queue handles AR System operations that might require significant time, block access to the database, or both. Examples of these operations include ARExport, ARGetListEntry, ARGetListEntryWithFields, and ARGetEntryStatistics. One or more threads can serve the list queue if a list queue is configured. To configure a list queue, see “Defining queues and configuring threads” on page 160. From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) [mailto:arslist@ARSLIST.ORGmailto:arslist@ARSLIST.ORG] On Behalf Of Andrew Fremont Sent: Tuesday, April 29, 2014 1:40 PM To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORGmailto:arslist@ARSLIST.ORG Subject: Fast v.s. List Threads ** Hi, What are the main differences between the two? I can't any docs about these threads. Which one handle the requests from users via Mid-tier, or WUT clients. Thanks _ARSlist: Where the Answers Are and have been for 20 years_ No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.comhttp://www.avg.com Version: 2014.0.4355 / Virus Database: 3882/7371 - Release Date: 04/20/14 Internal Virus Database is out of date. _ARSlist: Where the Answers Are and have been for 20 years_ _ARSlist: Where the Answers Are and have been for 20 years_ _ARSlist: Where the Answers Are and have been for 20 years_ Portions of this message may be confidential under an exemption to Ohio's public records law or under a legal privilege. If you have received this message in error or due to an unauthorized transmission or interception, please delete all copies from your system without disclosing, copying, or transmitting this message. ___ UNSUBSCRIBE or access ARSlist Archives at www.arslist.org Where the Answers Are, and have been for 20 years
Re: Reg -AD to Remedy Integration
Hi All, we are using Remedy 7.6.04 SP2, and here comes a request from the client for AD to Remedy Integration for users Profile creation. we already have LDAP AREA Configuration. which we are using only for passwords. it would be helpful if anyone has docs for this to share so that i can proceed -- -- *Regards,* *Ramya Tamilselvan.* ___ UNSUBSCRIBE or access ARSlist Archives at www.arslist.org Where the Answers Are, and have been for 20 years
Re: Fast v.s. List Threads
Why, it's for your safety, and to serve you better. You don't hate security and America and puppies, do you? Rick On Apr 30, 2014 11:56 AM, Jason Miller jason.mil...@gmail.com wrote: ** Thought I would share this on the List. I put my ranty pants on for this one (no really, notice the tags): Why do I have to log into bmc.docs.com almost every time I open it? https://communities.bmc.com/message/424094 The recentish docs.bmc.com changes and need to enter credentials multiple times a day the has probably been experinece by many of you. Apparently this is by design. The response I received on a recent ticket for it: no secured system in the work arena will allow 1 day of session validity and at this time no changes will be made. (Login expiration is correctly configured. No secured system in the work will allow 1 day of session validity.) Multiple login is a known issue as we have different apps using different SSO solution. We are already working on that. You cannot have SSO/session active across multiple computers. This is basics of secured system.. I too am looking for an answer as to why is this documentation needs to be so secure? SNOW doesn't secure their doc. Jason On Tue, Apr 29, 2014 at 10:20 PM, Axton axton.gr...@gmail.com wrote: ** Just to help (maybe) solve a long standing problem, let me point this out. I ran a Google search for a quote from the excerpt you cited from the product documentation: The fast queue handles the operations that generally run to completion quickly Guess what result did not show up on the first page of results... BMC's product documentation... What logic they have to withhold their documentation from robots indexing it is beyond me. If memory serves me correctly BMC has gone to lengths to ensure that APIs, documentation, javadoc, systematic workflow documentation, etc. are not available on the web. Maybe someone can help me understand the logic here because it eludes me... On Tue, Apr 29, 2014 at 7:06 PM, William Rentfrow wrentf...@stratacominc.com wrote: ** This is straight out of the ARS configuration guide: *Fast queue* The fast queue handles the operations that generally run to completion quickly without blocking access to the database. The fast queue handles all server operations, except for: Administrative operations that restructure the database. These operations use the administration queue. The ARExport, ARGetListEntry, ARGetListEntryWithFields, and ARGetEntryStatistics, and other API calls (which use the list queue). For more information about API calls, see the *C API Reference*. One or more threads can serve the fast queue if a fast queue is configured. To configure a fast queue, see “Defining queues and configuring threads” on page 160*.* *List queue* The list queue handles AR System operations that might require significant time, block access to the database, or both. Examples of these operations include ARExport, ARGetListEntry, ARGetListEntryWithFields, and ARGetEntryStatistics. One or more threads can serve the list queue if a list queue is configured. To configure a list queue, see “Defining queues and configuring threads” on page 160. *From:* Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) [mailto: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG] *On Behalf Of *Andrew Fremont *Sent:* Tuesday, April 29, 2014 1:40 PM *To:* arslist@ARSLIST.ORG *Subject:* Fast v.s. List Threads ** Hi, What are the main differences between the two? I can't any docs about these threads. Which one handle the requests from users via Mid-tier, or WUT clients. Thanks _ARSlist: Where the Answers Are and have been for 20 years_ -- No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2014.0.4355 / Virus Database: 3882/7371 - Release Date: 04/20/14 Internal Virus Database is out of date. _ARSlist: Where the Answers Are and have been for 20 years_ _ARSlist: Where the Answers Are and have been for 20 years_ _ARSlist: Where the Answers Are and have been for 20 years_ ___ UNSUBSCRIBE or access ARSlist Archives at www.arslist.org Where the Answers Are, and have been for 20 years
Re: Self-Terminating/disabling Escalation
Sapna, Have a flag field as part of the escalation set the flag to true. Make the run if qualification for the escalation run on flag equal false. That should ensure it only runs once. Otherwise, I'd just create an escalation, run it and then remove it manually. Ben Cantatore Remedy Architect Bed Bath Beyond 650 Liberty Avenue Union NJ 07083-8130 Office: (908) 613-5769 Cell: (914) 263-6802 From: Sapna Motwani sapana.motw...@gmail.com To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG, Date: 04/30/2014 11:58 PM Subject:Self-Terminating/disabling Escalation Sent by:Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) arslist@ARSLIST.ORG Hello Experts, Please suggest is it possible to define a self-terminating escalation. I need to run an escalation just once, and then it should disable itself. I want to know is it possible to define an escalation which triggers some workflow to mark the calling parent escalation as disable. Any help would be highly appreciated. Regards, Sapna ___ UNSUBSCRIBE or access ARSlist Archives at www.arslist.org Where the Answers Are, and have been for 20 years ___ UNSUBSCRIBE or access ARSlist Archives at www.arslist.org Where the Answers Are, and have been for 20 years
Looking for a programmatic way to copy foundation data from 7.6.4 system to a POC 8.1 system
Happy Thursday All, I am trying to build out a POC 8.1 system, before our upgrade with just our foundation (and CI) data. I know I can just start to export all of the forms to spreadsheets and use the DMT. But I wondered if I could use the rrrchive tool and automate the process (since this might need to be repeated). So I need to ask: 1. Has anyone done it with rrrchive or something similar (and free). 2. If so how (that is what forms should be exported/imported using rrrchive for example)? As always thanks, Howard [Description: Description: Description: Cox Enterprises, Inc]http://www.coxenterprises.com/ Howard Richter, Remedy Administrator 6205 Peachtree Dunwoody Road, Atlanta, GA 30328-4524 Email = howard.rich...@coxinc.commailto:howard.rich...@coxinc.com Office = 678.645.4633, Cell = 404.226.2745 Cox Innovation Agent (CIA) [Description: Description: http://innovation.coxenterprises.com/ideas/Badge%20Library/BadgeA-Md.png][Description: Description: http://innovation.coxenterprises.com/ideas/Badge%20Library/Badge20-Md.png]http://innovation.coxenterprises.com/ideas/Badge%20Library/Badge20-Lg.png[Description: Description: http://innovation.coxenterprises.com/ideas/Badge%20Library/Badge50-Md.png]http://innovation.coxenterprises.com/ideas/Badge%20Library/Badge50-Lg.png Submit your idea today for a chance to earn a badge and be entered into a monthly drawing for a $10 gift card. Submit your idea: http://innovation.coxenterprises.com/ideas View your badges: http://innovation.coxenterprises.com/ideas/SitePages/yourbadges.aspx ___ UNSUBSCRIBE or access ARSlist Archives at www.arslist.org Where the Answers Are, and have been for 20 years
Re: Self-Terminating/disabling Escalation
I don't know of a way to do that. When I need to have an escalation run only once I will either set it for an interval of 99 days (if I want it to run immediately) or for a specific day of the month and time. In either case you must go back and disable the escalation but that will give you 99 days or one month respectively to do so before it fires again. -Rick ___ UNSUBSCRIBE or access ARSlist Archives at www.arslist.org Where the Answers Are, and have been for 20 years
SRM Error
When executing a Deployed SRD through SRM Request Entry, we get: Error during loading document The syntax of this message must have been translated from French, but English aside, I believe this is a result of a corrupted questions, variables or something else. Can anyone point to a scientific way to figure out where the problem is? Logs and or error pointers come to mind Would a Filter Log shed any light on the subject? We are on 7.6.4 Windows and I'll bet this is another instance of It's fixed in 8.1. Any help would be appreciated Thanks -- [image: Crab] Gordon M. Frank ___ UNSUBSCRIBE or access ARSlist Archives at www.arslist.org Where the Answers Are, and have been for 20 years
Incident Number generator
Hello List, How you are doing? This post is with respect to Incident number generator. I know incident number gets generated from HPD:CFG Ticket Num Generator but why this form has workflows and other fields? If I am not wrong Just a form itself is enought to generate incident id then why other fields and workflows are required? Can anybody answer this? ___ UNSUBSCRIBE or access ARSlist Archives at www.arslist.org Where the Answers Are, and have been for 20 years
Re: ERROR [pool-2-thread-3] com.bmc.arsys.pluginsvr.plugins.g (?:?) - An error has occurred while loading a plug-in.ARSYS.ARDBC.LDAP
Hello, We are no doing SSL. this exist 'ARDBC-LDAP-Key-Password in ar.conf but is null/blank. - I realized ar.conf ARDBC-LDAP-Cert-DB: ARDBC-LDAP-Cert-Name: ARDBC-LDAP-User-DN: test ARDBC-LDAP-Hostname: server ARDBC-LDAP-Key-DB: ARDBC-LDAP-Key-Password: ARDBC-LDAP-Password: ENCRYPTED PWD ARDBC-LDAP-UsingSSL: F Server-Plugin-Alias: ARSYS.ARDBC.LDAP ARSYS.ARDBC.LDAP server: removed all the entries , ARDBC-LDAP-Cert-DB: ARDBC-LDAP-Cert-Name: ARDBC-LDAP-User-DN: ARDBC-LDAP-Hostname: % ARDBC-LDAP-Key-DB: ARDBC-LDAP-Key-Password: ARDBC-LDAP-Password: ARDBC-LDAP-Port: ARDBC-LDAP-UsingSSL: F Server-Plugin-Alias: ARSYS.ARDBC.LDAP ARSYS.ARDBC.LDAP server: ARDBC-LDAP-Base-Dn: ARDBC-LDAP-Use-Cache: F ARDBC-LDAP-Cache-MaxSize: ARDBC-LDAP-Cache-TTL: ARDBC-LDAP-Connect-Timeout: ARDBC-LDAP-Page-Size: ARDBC-LDAP-Time-Format: 0 i'm on test. We are using User form authenication - and we don't do SSO by connnecting to LDAP, but with areahub, and plugin that was built to allow our version of SSO. ___ UNSUBSCRIBE or access ARSlist Archives at www.arslist.org Where the Answers Are, and have been for 20 years
Re: EXTERNAL: Re: Self-Terminating/disabling Escalation
Or Set it up to run every 99 days like Rick said and add AND $DATE$ = 05/01/2014 to your run if. It will run immediately today and by tomorrow the DATE check will be false. Since it only gets run every 99 days there is little impact on the system except to check the escalation and verify that it's counter has not expired and when it does expire the run If is still false. But I would still go back in and clean it up manually. Either disabling it or deleting it. Thank you, --- John J. Reiser Remedy Developer/Administrator Senior Software Development Analyst Lockheed Martin - MS2 The star that burns twice as bright burns half as long. Pay close attention and be illuminated by its brilliance. - paraphrased by me -Original Message- From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) [mailto:arslist@ARSLIST.ORG] On Behalf Of Rick Westbrock Sent: Thursday, May 01, 2014 11:13 AM To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG Subject: EXTERNAL: Re: Self-Terminating/disabling Escalation I don't know of a way to do that. When I need to have an escalation run only once I will either set it for an interval of 99 days (if I want it to run immediately) or for a specific day of the month and time. In either case you must go back and disable the escalation but that will give you 99 days or one month respectively to do so before it fires again. -Rick ___ UNSUBSCRIBE or access ARSlist Archives at www.arslist.org Where the Answers Are, and have been for 20 years ___ UNSUBSCRIBE or access ARSlist Archives at www.arslist.org Where the Answers Are, and have been for 20 years
