Re: Shibboleth

2011-11-04 Thread O';Hara, Brad
Axton,

  Thanks, this is sounding more complicated by the minute :)  I was hoping 
someone had already taken a stab at this.  One thing about the credentials, the 
Shibboleth implementation we have directs the user to a login page and we do 
not have access to them from there.

Brad

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** In theory it is possible for the mid-tier authentication.  I have read up on 
it and looked into what it would take.  I will say that it will require some 
programming on your part to make it happen.
- In Shibboleth, you will need an IdP and a realm for your mid-tier application
- On the web server in front of the mid-tier, you need something that is 
capable of issuing/handling a SAML assertion (an SP)
- You need to hand the SP provided information from the web server to the 
servlet container (object; method is implementation dependant)
- Within the mid-tier, you need to implement a custom authentication servlet to 
handle the assertion
- Within the ARServer, you need to implement an AREA plugin capable of taking 
the data from your custom authentication servlet and authenticating the user

I have intentionally left out the details of how to create a trusted handshake 
between the mid-tier and AREA plug-in.  This is an area of much debate.  
Ideally you would re-validate the credentials passed to the AREA plugin within 
the AREA plugin.  What is more common is a shared secret between the 
authentication servlet and the AREA plugin.  I'm not a fan of the shared secret 
approach because once the cat's out of the bag (that being the shared secret), 
it's out, and people can blindly authenticate to your arserver.

This is all theory, not practice, so there may some things that I've missed.  
Also, there may be other ways to approach this, for example, you may not have a 
web server in front of your servlet container, in which case the architecture, 
and subsequently, the implementation, changes.

Axton Grams

On Thu, Nov 3, 2011 at 9:38 AM, O'Hara, Brad 
mailto:br...@ufl.edu>> wrote:
**
Hi,

  Has anyone been able to use Shibboleth for authentication?

Thanks,
Brad


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Shibboleth

2011-11-03 Thread O';Hara, Brad
Hi,

  Has anyone been able to use Shibboleth for authentication?

Thanks,
Brad


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Support Matrix for 7.6.03

2011-01-07 Thread O';Hara, Brad
Anyone have a link to the support matrix?  I do not see it in the server 
documentation.

Brad


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