Re: Administrator - Performance Issues when saving form

2006-11-22 Thread David Sanders
Hi Runar

Annoying isn't it?  Try this for a test.  Open up a filter, then go to
View...By Form and select another form that your filter isn't attached to.
Then try modifying and saving the open filter - on my system it is nearly
instantaneous.

Then change the objects you are viewing - click on Forms, then click back on
Filters, and try it again.  First time takes a long time, then instant again
after that.  It looks to me as though it is caused by the admin tool
refreshing the list of objects displayed in the admin tool.  If it knows the
object isn't in the list it is currently displaying, there is no delay...
otherwise it can take some time.

I don't know whether this throws any light on the issue or not...

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Subject: Administrator - Performance Issues when saving form

Hi, all

I've got a question about performance in AR Administrator. 

The performance varies for each time I save. Sometimes it takes up to 25
seconds to save a filter, other times only half a second. We are talking
about the same filter, and the change could be as small as changing a
character to its name (add or remove.  Makes no difference)

The interesting thing is that it seems to be very slow the first time I
save the filter. If I make an other change, save is quick. And if I make
yet an other change it is also very quick. If I then turn to the user
tool and do *any* operation that does an API/SQL call to the server, it
all breaks down again. The first time I save anything in the admin tool
after touching the user tool, things are sloow. After the first save
operation in the admin tool, subsequent saves to that element is quick
again. Good thing: It's consistent.

I've have checked the API&SQL log and the difference in API-time between
the "quick" and the "slow" saves is only milliseconds. CPU usage on
server is only 50 percent at its peak during save operation. For the
quick saves, I can hardly register any CPU load on the server. There is
no noticeable load on the client either.

The server is a dual 3.4 GHz with 3,5 GB RAM.
Administrator 6,3 patch 12
ARS 6.3, patch 12

Any ideas?

Best regards,
Runar


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Re: Administrator - Performance Issues when saving form

2006-11-22 Thread Terry Bootsma
Sounds like the server is re-caching on changes.  Go into 
the admin tool, click on File->Server Info, on the config 
tab ensure that "Development Cache Mode" is clicked during 
your changes.  It should improve performance.  When you 
have completed your development, turn this option off.


Terry

On Wed, 22 Nov 2006 10:29:28 -0600
 "Grooms, Frederick W" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
You didn't specify what database you are connecting to, 
so I am making a

guess...

It may be that your db server is caching the data in 
it's memory so the
first save takes some time to get the data from the 
disk.  Secondary
updates already have the current data for the filter in 
memory so it is
quicker.  After using the User Tool the filter is no 
longer in the DB
server's memory so an update afterwards has to re-get 
the data from the

disk

Fred

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Subject: Administrator - Performance Issues when saving 
form


Hi, all

I've got a question about performance in AR 
Administrator. 

The performance varies for each time I save. Sometimes 
it takes up to 25
seconds to save a filter, other times only half a 
second. We are talking
about the same filter, and the change could be as small 
as changing a
character to its name (add or remove.  Makes no 
difference)


The interesting thing is that it seems to be very slow 
the first time I
save the filter. If I make an other change, save is 
quick. And if I make
yet an other change it is also very quick. If I then 
turn to the user
tool and do *any* operation that does an API/SQL call to 
the server, it
all breaks down again. The first time I save anything in 
the admin tool
after touching the user tool, things are sloow. 
After the first save
operation in the admin tool, subsequent saves to that 
element is quick

again. Good thing: It's consistent.

I've have checked the API&SQL log and the difference in 
API-time between
the "quick" and the "slow" saves is only milliseconds. 
CPU usage on
server is only 50 percent at its peak during save 
operation. For the
quick saves, I can hardly register any CPU load on the 
server. There is

no noticeable load on the client either.

The server is a dual 3.4 GHz with 3,5 GB RAM.
Administrator 6,3 patch 12
ARS 6.3, patch 12

Any ideas?

Best regards,
Runar

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Re: Administrator - Performance Issues when saving form

2006-11-22 Thread Grooms, Frederick W
You didn't specify what database you are connecting to, so I am making a
guess...

It may be that your db server is caching the data in it's memory so the
first save takes some time to get the data from the disk.  Secondary
updates already have the current data for the filter in memory so it is
quicker.  After using the User Tool the filter is no longer in the DB
server's memory so an update afterwards has to re-get the data from the
disk
 
Fred

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Sent: Wednesday, November 22, 2006 9:18 AM
To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
Subject: Administrator - Performance Issues when saving form

Hi, all

I've got a question about performance in AR Administrator. 

The performance varies for each time I save. Sometimes it takes up to 25
seconds to save a filter, other times only half a second. We are talking
about the same filter, and the change could be as small as changing a
character to its name (add or remove.  Makes no difference)

The interesting thing is that it seems to be very slow the first time I
save the filter. If I make an other change, save is quick. And if I make
yet an other change it is also very quick. If I then turn to the user
tool and do *any* operation that does an API/SQL call to the server, it
all breaks down again. The first time I save anything in the admin tool
after touching the user tool, things are sloow. After the first save
operation in the admin tool, subsequent saves to that element is quick
again. Good thing: It's consistent.

I've have checked the API&SQL log and the difference in API-time between
the "quick" and the "slow" saves is only milliseconds. CPU usage on
server is only 50 percent at its peak during save operation. For the
quick saves, I can hardly register any CPU load on the server. There is
no noticeable load on the client either.

The server is a dual 3.4 GHz with 3,5 GB RAM.
Administrator 6,3 patch 12
ARS 6.3, patch 12

Any ideas?

Best regards,
Runar

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Administrator - Performance Issues when saving form

2006-11-22 Thread Runar Helle
Hi, all

I've got a question about performance in AR Administrator. 

The performance varies for each time I save. Sometimes it takes up to 25
seconds to save a filter, other times only half a second. We are talking
about the same filter, and the change could be as small as changing a
character to its name (add or remove.  Makes no difference)

The interesting thing is that it seems to be very slow the first time I
save the filter. If I make an other change, save is quick. And if I make
yet an other change it is also very quick. If I then turn to the user
tool and do *any* operation that does an API/SQL call to the server, it
all breaks down again. The first time I save anything in the admin tool
after touching the user tool, things are sloow. After the first save
operation in the admin tool, subsequent saves to that element is quick
again. Good thing: It's consistent.

I've have checked the API&SQL log and the difference in API-time between
the "quick" and the "slow" saves is only milliseconds. CPU usage on
server is only 50 percent at its peak during save operation. For the
quick saves, I can hardly register any CPU load on the server. There is
no noticeable load on the client either.

The server is a dual 3.4 GHz with 3,5 GB RAM.
Administrator 6,3 patch 12
ARS 6.3, patch 12

Any ideas?

Best regards,
Runar

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