BMC proxy fight - Elliot Mgmt

2012-06-20 Thread Logan, Kelly
Regarding the links that Joel noted (see below), does anyone else have some 
insight into the accusations made by Elliot Mgmt? Personally, I'm glad that BMC 
did not completely lose themselves in SaaS, what I see as another 'bubble' 
technology that will be bursting in the next few years as companies realize how 
little value they get from most SaaS vendors, and how much they have to spend 
to do even the most basic customization. What are opinions on the sales and 
other issues? Any sales/partners that would like to chime in on this?

**
This may explain the silence:
http://www.informationweek.com/news/software/infrastructure/240002100
http://www.marketwatch.com/story/bmc-software-responds-to-elliott-managements-letter-2012-05-21
http://www.marketwatch.com/story/elliott-files-definitive-proxy-statement-for-bmc-software-2012-06-14
http://blogs.wsj.com/deals/2012/06/12/bmc-software-fights-back-against-elliott-says-its-not-for-sale/

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Re: BMC proxy fight - Elliot Mgmt

2012-06-20 Thread pritch
Annual meeting is July 25, so I wouldn't expect any fireworks until around 
then.  The interesting thing is one of the votes on the agenda is:

5. TO VOTE ON A STOCKHOLDER PROPOSAL SUBMITTED BY ELLIOTT ASSOCIATES, L.P. AND 
ELLIOTT INTERNATIONAL, L.P. REGARDING THE REPEAL OF PROVISIONS OR AMENDMENTS OF 
THE COMPANY'S AMENDED AND RESTATED BYLAWS, AS SET FORTH IN THE PROXY STATEMENT.

While there's no other details that I can find, I'm assuming this is the repeal 
of the poison pill amendment that was adopted by the board.  Will be 
interesting to see how the stockholders feel.

- Original Message -
From: Kelly Logan kelly.lo...@proquest.com
To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
Sent: Wednesday, June 20, 2012 9:11:52 AM
Subject: BMC proxy fight - Elliot Mgmt

** 


Regarding the links that Joel noted (see below), does anyone else have some 
insight into the accusations made by Elliot Mgmt? Personally, I’m glad that BMC 
did not completely lose themselves in SaaS, what I see as another ‘bubble’ 
technology that will be bursting in the next few years as companies realize how 
little value they get from most SaaS vendors, and how much they have to spend 
to do even the most basic customization. What are opinions on the sales and 
other issues? Any sales/partners that would like to chime in on this? 

  

** 

This may explain the silence: 

http://www.informationweek.com/news/software/infrastructure/240002100 

http://www.marketwatch.com/story/bmc-software-responds-to-elliott-managements-letter-2012-05-21
 

http://www.marketwatch.com/story/elliott-files-definitive-proxy-statement-for-bmc-software-2012-06-14
 

http://blogs.wsj.com/deals/2012/06/12/bmc-software-fights-back-against-elliott-says-its-not-for-sale/
 

  

Joel 

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Re: BMC proxy fight - Elliot Mgmt

2012-06-20 Thread Rick Cook
I am wondering what Elliott's end game is.  Are they simply trying to make
stock they own more valuable, or do they have MA ideas?  Their actions
thus far could lead in either direction.

Rick
On Jun 20, 2012 9:55 AM, pritch pri...@ptd.net wrote:

 Annual meeting is July 25, so I wouldn't expect any fireworks until around
 then.  The interesting thing is one of the votes on the agenda is:

 5. TO VOTE ON A STOCKHOLDER PROPOSAL SUBMITTED BY ELLIOTT ASSOCIATES, L.P.
 AND ELLIOTT INTERNATIONAL, L.P. REGARDING THE REPEAL OF PROVISIONS OR
 AMENDMENTS OF THE COMPANY'S AMENDED AND RESTATED BYLAWS, AS SET FORTH IN
 THE PROXY STATEMENT.

 While there's no other details that I can find, I'm assuming this is the
 repeal of the poison pill amendment that was adopted by the board.  Will be
 interesting to see how the stockholders feel.

 - Original Message -
 From: Kelly Logan kelly.lo...@proquest.com
 To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
 Sent: Wednesday, June 20, 2012 9:11:52 AM
 Subject: BMC proxy fight - Elliot Mgmt

 **


 Regarding the links that Joel noted (see below), does anyone else have
 some insight into the accusations made by Elliot Mgmt? Personally, I’m glad
 that BMC did not completely lose themselves in SaaS, what I see as another
 ‘bubble’ technology that will be bursting in the next few years as
 companies realize how little value they get from most SaaS vendors, and how
 much they have to spend to do even the most basic customization. What are
 opinions on the sales and other issues? Any sales/partners that would like
 to chime in on this?



 **

 This may explain the silence:

 http://www.informationweek.com/news/software/infrastructure/240002100


 http://www.marketwatch.com/story/bmc-software-responds-to-elliott-managements-letter-2012-05-21


 http://www.marketwatch.com/story/elliott-files-definitive-proxy-statement-for-bmc-software-2012-06-14


 http://blogs.wsj.com/deals/2012/06/12/bmc-software-fights-back-against-elliott-says-its-not-for-sale/



 Joel

 Joel Senderjdsen...@earthlink.net 310.829.5552





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Re: BMC proxy fight - Elliot Mgmt

2012-06-20 Thread Campbell, Paul (Paul)
There goes the neighborhood!  I hope this doesn't turn out like the Peregrine 
purchase of Remedy!

-Original Message-
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[mailto:arslist@ARSLIST.ORG] On Behalf Of pritch
Sent: Wednesday, June 20, 2012 9:56 AM
To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
Subject: Re: BMC proxy fight - Elliot Mgmt

Annual meeting is July 25, so I wouldn't expect any fireworks until around 
then.  The interesting thing is one of the votes on the agenda is:

5. TO VOTE ON A STOCKHOLDER PROPOSAL SUBMITTED BY ELLIOTT ASSOCIATES, L.P. AND 
ELLIOTT INTERNATIONAL, L.P. REGARDING THE REPEAL OF PROVISIONS OR AMENDMENTS OF 
THE COMPANY'S AMENDED AND RESTATED BYLAWS, AS SET FORTH IN THE PROXY STATEMENT.

While there's no other details that I can find, I'm assuming this is the repeal 
of the poison pill amendment that was adopted by the board.  Will be 
interesting to see how the stockholders feel.

- Original Message -
From: Kelly Logan kelly.lo...@proquest.com
To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
Sent: Wednesday, June 20, 2012 9:11:52 AM
Subject: BMC proxy fight - Elliot Mgmt

** 


Regarding the links that Joel noted (see below), does anyone else have some 
insight into the accusations made by Elliot Mgmt? Personally, I’m glad that BMC 
did not completely lose themselves in SaaS, what I see as another ‘bubble’ 
technology that will be bursting in the next few years as companies realize how 
little value they get from most SaaS vendors, and how much they have to spend 
to do even the most basic customization. What are opinions on the sales and 
other issues? Any sales/partners that would like to chime in on this? 

  

** 

This may explain the silence: 

http://www.informationweek.com/news/software/infrastructure/240002100 

http://www.marketwatch.com/story/bmc-software-responds-to-elliott-managements-letter-2012-05-21
 

http://www.marketwatch.com/story/elliott-files-definitive-proxy-statement-for-bmc-software-2012-06-14
 

http://blogs.wsj.com/deals/2012/06/12/bmc-software-fights-back-against-elliott-says-its-not-for-sale/
 

  

Joel 

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Re: BMC proxy fight - Elliot Mgmt

2012-06-20 Thread Rick Cook
Oh, I don't know about that.  It would seem that BMC is a more attractive
acquisition target if it remains undervalued.  If Elliott is successful in
what it *says* it wants to do, who wants to buy a company selling for full
price/value when it could have been had for less?

Rick
On Jun 20, 2012 10:15 AM, Campbell, Paul (Paul) p...@avaya.com wrote:

 There goes the neighborhood!  I hope this doesn't turn out like the
 Peregrine purchase of Remedy!

 -Original Message-
 From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) [mailto:
 arslist@ARSLIST.ORG] On Behalf Of pritch
 Sent: Wednesday, June 20, 2012 9:56 AM
 To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
 Subject: Re: BMC proxy fight - Elliot Mgmt

 Annual meeting is July 25, so I wouldn't expect any fireworks until around
 then.  The interesting thing is one of the votes on the agenda is:

 5. TO VOTE ON A STOCKHOLDER PROPOSAL SUBMITTED BY ELLIOTT ASSOCIATES, L.P.
 AND ELLIOTT INTERNATIONAL, L.P. REGARDING THE REPEAL OF PROVISIONS OR
 AMENDMENTS OF THE COMPANY'S AMENDED AND RESTATED BYLAWS, AS SET FORTH IN
 THE PROXY STATEMENT.

 While there's no other details that I can find, I'm assuming this is the
 repeal of the poison pill amendment that was adopted by the board.  Will be
 interesting to see how the stockholders feel.

 - Original Message -
 From: Kelly Logan kelly.lo...@proquest.com
 To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
 Sent: Wednesday, June 20, 2012 9:11:52 AM
 Subject: BMC proxy fight - Elliot Mgmt

 **


 Regarding the links that Joel noted (see below), does anyone else have
 some insight into the accusations made by Elliot Mgmt? Personally, I’m glad
 that BMC did not completely lose themselves in SaaS, what I see as another
 ‘bubble’ technology that will be bursting in the next few years as
 companies realize how little value they get from most SaaS vendors, and how
 much they have to spend to do even the most basic customization. What are
 opinions on the sales and other issues? Any sales/partners that would like
 to chime in on this?



 **

 This may explain the silence:

 http://www.informationweek.com/news/software/infrastructure/240002100


 http://www.marketwatch.com/story/bmc-software-responds-to-elliott-managements-letter-2012-05-21


 http://www.marketwatch.com/story/elliott-files-definitive-proxy-statement-for-bmc-software-2012-06-14


 http://blogs.wsj.com/deals/2012/06/12/bmc-software-fights-back-against-elliott-says-its-not-for-sale/



 Joel

 Joel Senderjdsen...@earthlink.net 310.829.5552





 Kelly Logan , Sr. Systems Administrator (Remedy, Planview), GMS

 ProQuest | 789 E. Eisenhower Parkway, P.O. Box 1346 | Ann Arbor MI
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Re: BMC proxy fight - Elliot Mgmt

2012-06-20 Thread Pierson, Shawn
I've seen these types of situations play out before, and basically what 
generally happens is one of two things:  1) the management of the corporation 
makes some changes to take the wind out of the sails of the activist 
investor(s), or 2) the management of the corporation is replaced by people 
chosen by the activist investors.  It's clear that Elliot Management has no 
interest in what BMC does, and is completely focused on the stock price going 
up so they can sell and make a profit as quickly as possible.  Based on what 
I've seen in the news, it doesn't look like BMC's senior management is budging 
even an inch, and it's likely that folks from Elliot have been focused on 
getting the institutional stock holders on board with a sale.

Personally, I think a sale could be a good thing (or it could be terrible, but 
I prefer to be optimistic.)  Dell, for example, has nothing like BMC's toolset, 
so it wouldn't be a matter of trying to kill off Remedy or anything else if 
they bought it.  IBM I would be a little less positive about since they 
supposedly have a competitor to Remedy with some modules of Tivoli, and Oracle 
is too complex to say one way or another at this point.  In any case, I think 
Remedy itself is a strong enough product someone would have to be extremely 
foolish (like Peregrine's management) to try to get rid of it.

Thanks,

Shawn Pierson
Remedy Developer | Energy Transfer

From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) 
[mailto:arslist@ARSLIST.ORG] On Behalf Of Rick Cook
Sent: Wednesday, June 20, 2012 9:01 AM
To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
Subject: Re: BMC proxy fight - Elliot Mgmt

**

I am wondering what Elliott's end game is.  Are they simply trying to make 
stock they own more valuable, or do they have MA ideas?  Their actions thus 
far could lead in either direction.

Rick
On Jun 20, 2012 9:55 AM, pritch pri...@ptd.netmailto:pri...@ptd.net wrote:
Annual meeting is July 25, so I wouldn't expect any fireworks until around 
then.  The interesting thing is one of the votes on the agenda is:

5. TO VOTE ON A STOCKHOLDER PROPOSAL SUBMITTED BY ELLIOTT ASSOCIATES, L.P. AND 
ELLIOTT INTERNATIONAL, L.P. REGARDING THE REPEAL OF PROVISIONS OR AMENDMENTS OF 
THE COMPANY'S AMENDED AND RESTATED BYLAWS, AS SET FORTH IN THE PROXY STATEMENT.

While there's no other details that I can find, I'm assuming this is the repeal 
of the poison pill amendment that was adopted by the board.  Will be 
interesting to see how the stockholders feel.

- Original Message -
From: Kelly Logan kelly.lo...@proquest.commailto:kelly.lo...@proquest.com
To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORGmailto:arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
Sent: Wednesday, June 20, 2012 9:11:52 AM
Subject: BMC proxy fight - Elliot Mgmt

**


Regarding the links that Joel noted (see below), does anyone else have some 
insight into the accusations made by Elliot Mgmt? Personally, I'm glad that BMC 
did not completely lose themselves in SaaS, what I see as another 'bubble' 
technology that will be bursting in the next few years as companies realize how 
little value they get from most SaaS vendors, and how much they have to spend 
to do even the most basic customization. What are opinions on the sales and 
other issues? Any sales/partners that would like to chime in on this?



**

This may explain the silence:

http://www.informationweek.com/news/software/infrastructure/240002100

http://www.marketwatch.com/story/bmc-software-responds-to-elliott-managements-letter-2012-05-21

http://www.marketwatch.com/story/elliott-files-definitive-proxy-statement-for-bmc-software-2012-06-14

http://blogs.wsj.com/deals/2012/06/12/bmc-software-fights-back-against-elliott-says-its-not-for-sale/



Joel

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Re: BMC proxy fight - Elliot Mgmt

2012-06-20 Thread pritch
Then again, here's a link from about 45 minutes ago :

http://finance.yahoo.com/news/elliott-presents-analysis-outlining-multiple-141700446.html


- Original Message -
From: Paul Campbell (Paul) p...@avaya.com
To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
Sent: Wednesday, June 20, 2012 10:13:54 AM
Subject: Re: BMC proxy fight - Elliot Mgmt

There goes the neighborhood!  I hope this doesn't turn out like the Peregrine 
purchase of Remedy!

-Original Message-
From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) 
[mailto:arslist@ARSLIST.ORG] On Behalf Of pritch
Sent: Wednesday, June 20, 2012 9:56 AM
To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
Subject: Re: BMC proxy fight - Elliot Mgmt

Annual meeting is July 25, so I wouldn't expect any fireworks until around 
then.  The interesting thing is one of the votes on the agenda is:

5. TO VOTE ON A STOCKHOLDER PROPOSAL SUBMITTED BY ELLIOTT ASSOCIATES, L.P. AND 
ELLIOTT INTERNATIONAL, L.P. REGARDING THE REPEAL OF PROVISIONS OR AMENDMENTS OF 
THE COMPANY'S AMENDED AND RESTATED BYLAWS, AS SET FORTH IN THE PROXY STATEMENT.

While there's no other details that I can find, I'm assuming this is the repeal 
of the poison pill amendment that was adopted by the board.  Will be 
interesting to see how the stockholders feel.

- Original Message -
From: Kelly Logan kelly.lo...@proquest.com
To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
Sent: Wednesday, June 20, 2012 9:11:52 AM
Subject: BMC proxy fight - Elliot Mgmt

** 


Regarding the links that Joel noted (see below), does anyone else have some 
insight into the accusations made by Elliot Mgmt? Personally, I’m glad that BMC 
did not completely lose themselves in SaaS, what I see as another ‘bubble’ 
technology that will be bursting in the next few years as companies realize how 
little value they get from most SaaS vendors, and how much they have to spend 
to do even the most basic customization. What are opinions on the sales and 
other issues? Any sales/partners that would like to chime in on this? 

  

** 

This may explain the silence: 

http://www.informationweek.com/news/software/infrastructure/240002100 

http://www.marketwatch.com/story/bmc-software-responds-to-elliott-managements-letter-2012-05-21
 

http://www.marketwatch.com/story/elliott-files-definitive-proxy-statement-for-bmc-software-2012-06-14
 

http://blogs.wsj.com/deals/2012/06/12/bmc-software-fights-back-against-elliott-says-its-not-for-sale/
 

  

Joel 

Joel Sender    jdsen...@earthlink.net     310.829.5552 

  

  

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ProQuest | 789 E. Eisenhower Parkway, P.O. Box 1346 | Ann Arbor MI 48106-1346 
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Re: BMC proxy fight - Elliot Mgmt

2012-06-20 Thread arslist
That one just confuses me. First paragraph says major stock holder, then the 
text says 6.5%

That means 93.5% of stockholders aren't them, why does the system allow the 
hair on the tail to wag the dog?

-Original Message-
From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) 
[mailto:arslist@ARSLIST.ORG] On Behalf Of pritch
Sent: June 20, 2012 10:58 AM
To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
Subject: Re: BMC proxy fight - Elliot Mgmt

Then again, here's a link from about 45 minutes ago :

http://finance.yahoo.com/news/elliott-presents-analysis-outlining-multiple-141700446.html


- Original Message -
From: Paul Campbell (Paul) p...@avaya.com
To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
Sent: Wednesday, June 20, 2012 10:13:54 AM
Subject: Re: BMC proxy fight - Elliot Mgmt

There goes the neighborhood!  I hope this doesn't turn out like the Peregrine 
purchase of Remedy!

-Original Message-
From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) 
[mailto:arslist@ARSLIST.ORG] On Behalf Of pritch
Sent: Wednesday, June 20, 2012 9:56 AM
To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
Subject: Re: BMC proxy fight - Elliot Mgmt

Annual meeting is July 25, so I wouldn't expect any fireworks until around 
then.  The interesting thing is one of the votes on the agenda is:

5. TO VOTE ON A STOCKHOLDER PROPOSAL SUBMITTED BY ELLIOTT ASSOCIATES, L.P. AND 
ELLIOTT INTERNATIONAL, L.P. REGARDING THE REPEAL OF PROVISIONS OR AMENDMENTS OF 
THE COMPANY'S AMENDED AND RESTATED BYLAWS, AS SET FORTH IN THE PROXY STATEMENT.

While there's no other details that I can find, I'm assuming this is the repeal 
of the poison pill amendment that was adopted by the board.  Will be 
interesting to see how the stockholders feel.

- Original Message -
From: Kelly Logan kelly.lo...@proquest.com
To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
Sent: Wednesday, June 20, 2012 9:11:52 AM
Subject: BMC proxy fight - Elliot Mgmt

** 


Regarding the links that Joel noted (see below), does anyone else have some 
insight into the accusations made by Elliot Mgmt? Personally, I m glad that BMC 
did not completely lose themselves in SaaS, what I see as another  bubble  
technology that will be bursting in the next few years as companies realize how 
little value they get from most SaaS vendors, and how much they have to spend 
to do even the most basic customization. What are opinions on the sales and 
other issues? Any sales/partners that would like to chime in on this? 

  

** 

This may explain the silence: 

http://www.informationweek.com/news/software/infrastructure/240002100 

http://www.marketwatch.com/story/bmc-software-responds-to-elliott-managements-letter-2012-05-21
 

http://www.marketwatch.com/story/elliott-files-definitive-proxy-statement-for-bmc-software-2012-06-14
 

http://blogs.wsj.com/deals/2012/06/12/bmc-software-fights-back-against-elliott-says-its-not-for-sale/
 

  

Joel 

Joel Senderjdsen...@earthlink.net 310.829.5552 

  

  

Kelly Logan , Sr. Systems Administrator (Remedy, Planview), GMS 

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Re: BMC proxy fight - Elliot Mgmt

2012-06-20 Thread Pierson, Shawn
Most of the stock is held by non-BMC folks.  According to 
http://finance.yahoo.com/q/mh?s=BMC+Major+Holders it says that 91% of the 
shares are held by institutional and mutual fund owners.  For example, the top 
mutual fund holder according to that is DODGE  COX STOCK FUND which has 5.10% 
of the outstanding shares (8,215,140.)  Compare that with Bob Beauchamp, who 
has 658,211 shares.  6.5% is a huge amount, and the different investor groups 
that make up that 91% are more likely to sympathize with Elliot Management than 
with BMC's internal management.

Thanks,

Shawn Pierson 
Remedy Developer | Energy Transfer


-Original Message-
From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) 
[mailto:arslist@ARSLIST.ORG] On Behalf Of arslist
Sent: Wednesday, June 20, 2012 10:21 AM
To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
Subject: Re: BMC proxy fight - Elliot Mgmt

That one just confuses me. First paragraph says major stock holder, then the 
text says 6.5%

That means 93.5% of stockholders aren't them, why does the system allow the 
hair on the tail to wag the dog?

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From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) 
[mailto:arslist@ARSLIST.ORG] On Behalf Of pritch
Sent: June 20, 2012 10:58 AM
To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
Subject: Re: BMC proxy fight - Elliot Mgmt

Then again, here's a link from about 45 minutes ago :

http://finance.yahoo.com/news/elliott-presents-analysis-outlining-multiple-141700446.html


- Original Message -
From: Paul Campbell (Paul) p...@avaya.com
To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
Sent: Wednesday, June 20, 2012 10:13:54 AM
Subject: Re: BMC proxy fight - Elliot Mgmt

There goes the neighborhood!  I hope this doesn't turn out like the Peregrine 
purchase of Remedy!

-Original Message-
From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) 
[mailto:arslist@ARSLIST.ORG] On Behalf Of pritch
Sent: Wednesday, June 20, 2012 9:56 AM
To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
Subject: Re: BMC proxy fight - Elliot Mgmt

Annual meeting is July 25, so I wouldn't expect any fireworks until around 
then.  The interesting thing is one of the votes on the agenda is:

5. TO VOTE ON A STOCKHOLDER PROPOSAL SUBMITTED BY ELLIOTT ASSOCIATES, L.P. AND 
ELLIOTT INTERNATIONAL, L.P. REGARDING THE REPEAL OF PROVISIONS OR AMENDMENTS OF 
THE COMPANY'S AMENDED AND RESTATED BYLAWS, AS SET FORTH IN THE PROXY STATEMENT.

While there's no other details that I can find, I'm assuming this is the repeal 
of the poison pill amendment that was adopted by the board.  Will be 
interesting to see how the stockholders feel.

- Original Message -
From: Kelly Logan kelly.lo...@proquest.com
To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
Sent: Wednesday, June 20, 2012 9:11:52 AM
Subject: BMC proxy fight - Elliot Mgmt

** 


Regarding the links that Joel noted (see below), does anyone else have some 
insight into the accusations made by Elliot Mgmt? Personally, I m glad that BMC 
did not completely lose themselves in SaaS, what I see as another  bubble  
technology that will be bursting in the next few years as companies realize how 
little value they get from most SaaS vendors, and how much they have to spend 
to do even the most basic customization. What are opinions on the sales and 
other issues? Any sales/partners that would like to chime in on this? 

  

** 

This may explain the silence: 

http://www.informationweek.com/news/software/infrastructure/240002100 

http://www.marketwatch.com/story/bmc-software-responds-to-elliott-managements-letter-2012-05-21
 

http://www.marketwatch.com/story/elliott-files-definitive-proxy-statement-for-bmc-software-2012-06-14
 

http://blogs.wsj.com/deals/2012/06/12/bmc-software-fights-back-against-elliott-says-its-not-for-sale/
 

  

Joel 

Joel Senderjdsen...@earthlink.net 310.829.5552 

  

  

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Re: BMC proxy fight - Elliot Mgmt

2012-06-20 Thread Logan, Kelly
Maybe it's time for an open letter on behalf of the people who actually use BMC 
software to inform the stockholders of the dangers of allowing a private 
investment firm to push their own people onto the board of directors because 
they haven't been able to make a compelling enough business case to make the 
current board do what *they* want.

-Original Message-
From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) 
[mailto:arslist@ARSLIST.ORG] On Behalf Of pritch
Sent: Wednesday, June 20, 2012 10:58 AM
To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
Subject: Re: BMC proxy fight - Elliot Mgmt

Then again, here's a link from about 45 minutes ago :

http://finance.yahoo.com/news/elliott-presents-analysis-outlining-multiple-141700446.html


- Original Message -
From: Paul Campbell (Paul) p...@avaya.com
To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
Sent: Wednesday, June 20, 2012 10:13:54 AM
Subject: Re: BMC proxy fight - Elliot Mgmt

There goes the neighborhood!  I hope this doesn't turn out like the Peregrine 
purchase of Remedy!

-Original Message-
From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) 
[mailto:arslist@ARSLIST.ORG] On Behalf Of pritch
Sent: Wednesday, June 20, 2012 9:56 AM
To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
Subject: Re: BMC proxy fight - Elliot Mgmt

Annual meeting is July 25, so I wouldn't expect any fireworks until around 
then.  The interesting thing is one of the votes on the agenda is:

5. TO VOTE ON A STOCKHOLDER PROPOSAL SUBMITTED BY ELLIOTT ASSOCIATES, L.P. AND 
ELLIOTT INTERNATIONAL, L.P. REGARDING THE REPEAL OF PROVISIONS OR AMENDMENTS OF 
THE COMPANY'S AMENDED AND RESTATED BYLAWS, AS SET FORTH IN THE PROXY STATEMENT.

While there's no other details that I can find, I'm assuming this is the repeal 
of the poison pill amendment that was adopted by the board.  Will be 
interesting to see how the stockholders feel.

- Original Message -
From: Kelly Logan kelly.lo...@proquest.com
To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
Sent: Wednesday, June 20, 2012 9:11:52 AM
Subject: BMC proxy fight - Elliot Mgmt

** 


Regarding the links that Joel noted (see below), does anyone else have some 
insight into the accusations made by Elliot Mgmt? Personally, I’m glad that BMC 
did not completely lose themselves in SaaS, what I see as another ‘bubble’ 
technology that will be bursting in the next few years as companies realize how 
little value they get from most SaaS vendors, and how much they have to spend 
to do even the most basic customization. What are opinions on the sales and 
other issues? Any sales/partners that would like to chime in on this? 

  

** 

This may explain the silence: 

http://www.informationweek.com/news/software/infrastructure/240002100 

http://www.marketwatch.com/story/bmc-software-responds-to-elliott-managements-letter-2012-05-21
 

http://www.marketwatch.com/story/elliott-files-definitive-proxy-statement-for-bmc-software-2012-06-14
 

http://blogs.wsj.com/deals/2012/06/12/bmc-software-fights-back-against-elliott-says-its-not-for-sale/
 

  

Joel 

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Re: BMC proxy fight - Elliot Mgmt

2012-06-20 Thread Axton
Most people trade stock to make money.  The value of the proposition from
asset management firms versus the customers of the products align to that
'money making' goal very differently.  What they plan to offer may not be a
bad thing.  Consider the discussion thread on becoming a partner.

On Wed, Jun 20, 2012 at 11:10 AM, Logan, Kelly kelly.lo...@proquest.comwrote:

 Maybe it's time for an open letter on behalf of the people who actually
 use BMC software to inform the stockholders of the dangers of allowing a
 private investment firm to push their own people onto the board of
 directors because they haven't been able to make a compelling enough
 business case to make the current board do what *they* want.

 -Original Message-
 From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) [mailto:
 arslist@ARSLIST.ORG] On Behalf Of pritch
 Sent: Wednesday, June 20, 2012 10:58 AM
 To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
 Subject: Re: BMC proxy fight - Elliot Mgmt

 Then again, here's a link from about 45 minutes ago :


 http://finance.yahoo.com/news/elliott-presents-analysis-outlining-multiple-141700446.html


 - Original Message -
 From: Paul Campbell (Paul) p...@avaya.com
 To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
 Sent: Wednesday, June 20, 2012 10:13:54 AM
 Subject: Re: BMC proxy fight - Elliot Mgmt

 There goes the neighborhood!  I hope this doesn't turn out like the
 Peregrine purchase of Remedy!

 -Original Message-
 From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) [mailto:
 arslist@ARSLIST.ORG] On Behalf Of pritch
 Sent: Wednesday, June 20, 2012 9:56 AM
 To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
 Subject: Re: BMC proxy fight - Elliot Mgmt

 Annual meeting is July 25, so I wouldn't expect any fireworks until around
 then.  The interesting thing is one of the votes on the agenda is:

 5. TO VOTE ON A STOCKHOLDER PROPOSAL SUBMITTED BY ELLIOTT ASSOCIATES, L.P.
 AND ELLIOTT INTERNATIONAL, L.P. REGARDING THE REPEAL OF PROVISIONS OR
 AMENDMENTS OF THE COMPANY'S AMENDED AND RESTATED BYLAWS, AS SET FORTH IN
 THE PROXY STATEMENT.

 While there's no other details that I can find, I'm assuming this is the
 repeal of the poison pill amendment that was adopted by the board.  Will be
 interesting to see how the stockholders feel.

 - Original Message -
 From: Kelly Logan kelly.lo...@proquest.com
 To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
 Sent: Wednesday, June 20, 2012 9:11:52 AM
 Subject: BMC proxy fight - Elliot Mgmt

 **


 Regarding the links that Joel noted (see below), does anyone else have
 some insight into the accusations made by Elliot Mgmt? Personally, I’m glad
 that BMC did not completely lose themselves in SaaS, what I see as another
 ‘bubble’ technology that will be bursting in the next few years as
 companies realize how little value they get from most SaaS vendors, and how
 much they have to spend to do even the most basic customization. What are
 opinions on the sales and other issues? Any sales/partners that would like
 to chime in on this?



 **

 This may explain the silence:

 http://www.informationweek.com/news/software/infrastructure/240002100


 http://www.marketwatch.com/story/bmc-software-responds-to-elliott-managements-letter-2012-05-21


 http://www.marketwatch.com/story/elliott-files-definitive-proxy-statement-for-bmc-software-2012-06-14


 http://blogs.wsj.com/deals/2012/06/12/bmc-software-fights-back-against-elliott-says-its-not-for-sale/



 Joel

 Joel Senderjdsen...@earthlink.net 310.829.5552





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Re: BMC proxy fight - Elliot Mgmt

2012-06-20 Thread pritch
3 of the 4 board members being pushed by Elliott are ex HP board members that 
were around in the days when the current CEO of Oracle was the CEO of HP. And 
Oracle is one of the companies that seems to continue to come up in the 
discussions.  Coincidence or just a small world?

- Original Message -
From: Axton axton.gr...@gmail.com
To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
Sent: Wednesday, June 20, 2012 12:40:54 PM
Subject: Re: BMC proxy fight - Elliot Mgmt

** Most people trade stock to make money.  The value of the proposition from 
asset management firms versus the customers of the products align to that 
'money making' goal very differently.  What they plan to offer may not be a bad 
thing.  Consider the discussion thread on becoming a partner. 


On Wed, Jun 20, 2012 at 11:10 AM, Logan, Kelly  kelly.lo...@proquest.com  
wrote: 


Maybe it's time for an open letter on behalf of the people who actually use BMC 
software to inform the stockholders of the dangers of allowing a private 
investment firm to push their own people onto the board of directors because 
they haven't been able to make a compelling enough business case to make the 
current board do what *they* want. 


-Original Message- 
From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) [mailto: 
arslist@ARSLIST.ORG ] On Behalf Of pritch 


Sent: Wednesday, June 20, 2012 10:58 AM 
To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG 
Subject: Re: BMC proxy fight - Elliot Mgmt 

Then again, here's a link from about 45 minutes ago : 

http://finance.yahoo.com/news/elliott-presents-analysis-outlining-multiple-141700446.html
 


- Original Message - 
From: Paul Campbell (Paul)  p...@avaya.com  
To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG 
Sent: Wednesday, June 20, 2012 10:13:54 AM 
Subject: Re: BMC proxy fight - Elliot Mgmt 

There goes the neighborhood!  I hope this doesn't turn out like the Peregrine 
purchase of Remedy! 

-Original Message- 
From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) [mailto: 
arslist@ARSLIST.ORG ] On Behalf Of pritch 
Sent: Wednesday, June 20, 2012 9:56 AM 
To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG 
Subject: Re: BMC proxy fight - Elliot Mgmt 

Annual meeting is July 25, so I wouldn't expect any fireworks until around 
then.  The interesting thing is one of the votes on the agenda is: 

5. TO VOTE ON A STOCKHOLDER PROPOSAL SUBMITTED BY ELLIOTT ASSOCIATES, L.P. AND 
ELLIOTT INTERNATIONAL, L.P. REGARDING THE REPEAL OF PROVISIONS OR AMENDMENTS OF 
THE COMPANY'S AMENDED AND RESTATED BYLAWS, AS SET FORTH IN THE PROXY STATEMENT. 

While there's no other details that I can find, I'm assuming this is the repeal 
of the poison pill amendment that was adopted by the board.  Will be 
interesting to see how the stockholders feel. 

- Original Message - 
From: Kelly Logan  kelly.lo...@proquest.com  
To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG 
Sent: Wednesday, June 20, 2012 9:11:52 AM 
Subject: BMC proxy fight - Elliot Mgmt 

** 


Regarding the links that Joel noted (see below), does anyone else have some 
insight into the accusations made by Elliot Mgmt? Personally, I’m glad that BMC 
did not completely lose themselves in SaaS, what I see as another ‘bubble’ 
technology that will be bursting in the next few years as companies realize how 
little value they get from most SaaS vendors, and how much they have to spend 
to do even the most basic customization. What are opinions on the sales and 
other issues? Any sales/partners that would like to chime in on this? 

  

** 

This may explain the silence: 

http://www.informationweek.com/news/software/infrastructure/240002100 

http://www.marketwatch.com/story/bmc-software-responds-to-elliott-managements-letter-2012-05-21
 

http://www.marketwatch.com/story/elliott-files-definitive-proxy-statement-for-bmc-software-2012-06-14
 

http://blogs.wsj.com/deals/2012/06/12/bmc-software-fights-back-against-elliott-says-its-not-for-sale/
 

  

Joel 

Joel Sender    jdsen...@earthlink.net     310.829.5552 

  

  

Kelly Logan , Sr. Systems Administrator (Remedy, Planview), GMS 

ProQuest | 789 E. Eisenhower Parkway, P.O. Box 1346 | Ann Arbor MI 48106-1346 
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Re: BMC proxy fight - Elliot Mgmt

2012-06-20 Thread Jon Slaven
I say small world.  The number of people who professionally serve on 
boards is small.  I can't find it anymore, but there used to be a diagram 
around on the intranet that showed the interrelation of the board members 
of the X largest companies in the US.

Thanks,
Jon
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From:   pritch pri...@ptd.net
To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
Date:   06/20/2012 12:46 PM
Subject:Re: BMC proxy fight - Elliot Mgmt
Sent by:Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) 
arslist@ARSLIST.ORG



3 of the 4 board members being pushed by Elliott are ex HP board members 
that were around in the days when the current CEO of Oracle was the CEO of 
HP. And Oracle is one of the companies that seems to continue to come up 
in the discussions.  Coincidence or just a small world?

- Original Message -
From: Axton axton.gr...@gmail.com
To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
Sent: Wednesday, June 20, 2012 12:40:54 PM
Subject: Re: BMC proxy fight - Elliot Mgmt

** Most people trade stock to make money.  The value of the proposition 
from asset management firms versus the customers of the products align to 
that 'money making' goal very differently.  What they plan to offer may 
not be a bad thing.  Consider the discussion thread on becoming a partner. 



On Wed, Jun 20, 2012 at 11:10 AM, Logan, Kelly  kelly.lo...@proquest.com 
 wrote: 


Maybe it's time for an open letter on behalf of the people who actually 
use BMC software to inform the stockholders of the dangers of allowing a 
private investment firm to push their own people onto the board of 
directors because they haven't been able to make a compelling enough 
business case to make the current board do what *they* want. 


-Original Message- 
From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) [mailto: 
arslist@ARSLIST.ORG ] On Behalf Of pritch 


Sent: Wednesday, June 20, 2012 10:58 AM 
To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG 
Subject: Re: BMC proxy fight - Elliot Mgmt 

Then again, here's a link from about 45 minutes ago : 

http://finance.yahoo.com/news/elliott-presents-analysis-outlining-multiple-141700446.html
 



- Original Message - 
From: Paul Campbell (Paul)  p...@avaya.com  
To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG 
Sent: Wednesday, June 20, 2012 10:13:54 AM 
Subject: Re: BMC proxy fight - Elliot Mgmt 

There goes the neighborhood!  I hope this doesn't turn out like the 
Peregrine purchase of Remedy! 

-Original Message- 
From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) [mailto: 
arslist@ARSLIST.ORG ] On Behalf Of pritch 
Sent: Wednesday, June 20, 2012 9:56 AM 
To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG 
Subject: Re: BMC proxy fight - Elliot Mgmt 

Annual meeting is July 25, so I wouldn't expect any fireworks until around 
then.  The interesting thing is one of the votes on the agenda is: 

5. TO VOTE ON A STOCKHOLDER PROPOSAL SUBMITTED BY ELLIOTT ASSOCIATES, L.P. 
AND ELLIOTT INTERNATIONAL, L.P. REGARDING THE REPEAL OF PROVISIONS OR 
AMENDMENTS OF THE COMPANY'S AMENDED AND RESTATED BYLAWS, AS SET FORTH IN 
THE PROXY STATEMENT. 

While there's no other details that I can find, I'm assuming this is the 
repeal of the poison pill amendment that was adopted by the board.  Will 
be interesting to see how the stockholders feel. 

- Original Message - 
From: Kelly Logan  kelly.lo...@proquest.com  
To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG 
Sent: Wednesday, June 20, 2012 9:11:52 AM 
Subject: BMC proxy fight - Elliot Mgmt 

** 


Regarding the links that Joel noted (see below), does anyone else have 
some insight into the accusations made by Elliot Mgmt? Personally, I’m 
glad that BMC did not completely lose themselves in SaaS, what I see as 
another ‘bubble’ technology that will be bursting in the next few years as 
companies realize how little value they get from most SaaS vendors, and 
how much they have to spend to do even the most basic customization. What 
are opinions on the sales and other issues? Any sales/partners that would 
like to chime in on this? 

  

** 

This may explain the silence: 

http://www.informationweek.com/news/software/infrastructure/240002100 

http://www.marketwatch.com/story/bmc-software-responds-to-elliott-managements-letter-2012-05-21
 


http://www.marketwatch.com/story/elliott-files-definitive-proxy-statement-for-bmc-software-2012-06-14
 


http://blogs.wsj.com/deals/2012/06/12/bmc-software-fights-back-against-elliott-says-its-not-for-sale/
 


  

Joel 

Joel Senderjdsen...@earthlink.net 310.829.5552 

  

  

Kelly Logan , Sr. Systems Administrator (Remedy, Planview), GMS 

ProQuest | 789 E. Eisenhower Parkway, P.O. Box 1346 | Ann Arbor MI 
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