Re: Can we change char size of Organisation field across ITSM
As you can tell - it's not worth the agro! :) Tell the client / stakeholder, they have to use abbreviated names. Perhaps you can have a custom intermediate form that storges the org real name and the itsm abreeviated name for mapping or lookup purposes? Then if you wanted you could hide the real organization field where needed and display a display only custom field with your mapped data. Regards, Andrew C. Goodall Software Engineer Development Services ago...@jcpenney.com jcpenney 6501 Legacy Drive Plano, TX 75024 jcp.com -Original Message- From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) [mailto:arslist@arslist.org] On Behalf Of Eric Roys Sent: Friday, July 13, 2012 1:24 PM To: arslist@arslist.org Subject: Re: Can we change char size of Organisation field across ITSM A couple caveats: 1. make sure you are getting all references not just those that are handily identified with the same database id as there are some that are not, yet would fall into the realm of your update, not including temp fields (i.e. ReqByOrganization, Requester Organization, Customer Organization, etc.) 2. make sure your updates are in overlay if you are on system that supports overlays 3. make sure your updates to cmdb are done via class manager (yes, there's references there, too) However, "if" it were me, I'd want to make sure there is a darn valid reason for making this change as it's no small ask as even with additional due diligence, it's still prone to some amount of risk. It's nearly always better to tweak the data than the code, but if you go the code update route, don't forget your backup before pressing the button. -Eric -Original Message- From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) [mailto:arslist@ARSLIST.ORG] On Behalf Of Longwing, LJ CTR MDA/IC Sent: Friday, July 13, 2012 11:41 AM To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG Subject: Re: Can we change char size of Organisation field across ITSM I personally would write a quick java application that loads all of the forms, pulls does a get on the specific field, sets its attributes properly, sets the field back to the server...it would take about an hour to write the program (if that) and as long as it takes for the change to happen at the API levelbut significantly less time than it would take to do it through the dev studio, and I would NEVER attempt to do it at the DB level. -Original Message- From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) [mailto:arslist@ARSLIST.ORG] On Behalf Of ITSM.Support Sent: Friday, July 13, 2012 10:38 AM To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG Subject: Re: Can we change char size of Organisation field across ITSM Hi, According to the observations so far, we cannot modify the character size of the mentioned fields using the remedy application. The field 'Organization' is on the 361 forms with the same database field ID. Though it may be possible that we can update it at database level, but the same operation needs to be performed on each form. For this we have 'AR System Metadata:field_char' form, where all the meta-data related to character fields are stored. It’s a view form. We need to update the meta-data, the related record in order to achieve this. But this option is not tried and tested, as it may cause the severe malfunction at DB level. -- Regards, ITSM Support Vyom Labs Pvt. Ltd. BSM Solutions & Services || ITIL Consulting & Training Email: i...@vyomlabs.com || Web Site: www.vyomlabs.com Follow Vyom Labs http://twitter.com/#!/vyomlabs || http://www.linkedin.com/company/vyom-labs -Original Message- From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) [mailto:arslist@ARSLIST.ORG] On Behalf Of Vikram Sent: Thursday, July 12, 2012 9:23 PM To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG Subject: Can we change char size of Organisation field across ITSM hi All, I have a requirement where I need to change the char size of Organisation field in ITSM from 60 to 254 chars. Is there any way where we can do this in one place and it would reflect in all 300+ forms where this field is used. It would be a bad task to do manually, do anyone know a tweak for this or perhaps a utility for the same. There are 4 -5 such OOTB widely used fields which we need to increase size of. Thanks in advance, Vikram ___ UNSUBSCRIBE or access ARSlist Archives at www.arslist.org attend wwrug12 www.wwrug12.com ARSList: "Where the Answers Are" ___ UNSUBSCRIBE or access ARSlist Archives at www.arslist.org attend wwrug12 www.wwrug12.com ARSList: "Where the Answers Are" ___ UNSUBSCRIBE or access ARSlist Archives at www.arslist.org attend wwrug12 www.wwrug12.com ARSList: "Where the Ans
Re: Can we change char size of Organisation field across ITSM
A couple caveats: 1. make sure you are getting all references not just those that are handily identified with the same database id as there are some that are not, yet would fall into the realm of your update, not including temp fields (i.e. ReqByOrganization, Requester Organization, Customer Organization, etc.) 2. make sure your updates are in overlay if you are on system that supports overlays 3. make sure your updates to cmdb are done via class manager (yes, there's references there, too) However, "if" it were me, I'd want to make sure there is a darn valid reason for making this change as it's no small ask as even with additional due diligence, it's still prone to some amount of risk. It's nearly always better to tweak the data than the code, but if you go the code update route, don't forget your backup before pressing the button. -Eric -Original Message- From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) [mailto:arslist@ARSLIST.ORG] On Behalf Of Longwing, LJ CTR MDA/IC Sent: Friday, July 13, 2012 11:41 AM To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG Subject: Re: Can we change char size of Organisation field across ITSM I personally would write a quick java application that loads all of the forms, pulls does a get on the specific field, sets its attributes properly, sets the field back to the server...it would take about an hour to write the program (if that) and as long as it takes for the change to happen at the API levelbut significantly less time than it would take to do it through the dev studio, and I would NEVER attempt to do it at the DB level. -Original Message- From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) [mailto:arslist@ARSLIST.ORG] On Behalf Of ITSM.Support Sent: Friday, July 13, 2012 10:38 AM To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG Subject: Re: Can we change char size of Organisation field across ITSM Hi, According to the observations so far, we cannot modify the character size of the mentioned fields using the remedy application. The field 'Organization' is on the 361 forms with the same database field ID. Though it may be possible that we can update it at database level, but the same operation needs to be performed on each form. For this we have 'AR System Metadata:field_char' form, where all the meta-data related to character fields are stored. It’s a view form. We need to update the meta-data, the related record in order to achieve this. But this option is not tried and tested, as it may cause the severe malfunction at DB level. -- Regards, ITSM Support Vyom Labs Pvt. Ltd. BSM Solutions & Services || ITIL Consulting & Training Email: i...@vyomlabs.com || Web Site: www.vyomlabs.com Follow Vyom Labs http://twitter.com/#!/vyomlabs || http://www.linkedin.com/company/vyom-labs -Original Message- From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) [mailto:arslist@ARSLIST.ORG] On Behalf Of Vikram Sent: Thursday, July 12, 2012 9:23 PM To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG Subject: Can we change char size of Organisation field across ITSM hi All, I have a requirement where I need to change the char size of Organisation field in ITSM from 60 to 254 chars. Is there any way where we can do this in one place and it would reflect in all 300+ forms where this field is used. It would be a bad task to do manually, do anyone know a tweak for this or perhaps a utility for the same. There are 4 -5 such OOTB widely used fields which we need to increase size of. Thanks in advance, Vikram ___ UNSUBSCRIBE or access ARSlist Archives at www.arslist.org attend wwrug12 www.wwrug12.com ARSList: "Where the Answers Are" ___ UNSUBSCRIBE or access ARSlist Archives at www.arslist.org attend wwrug12 www.wwrug12.com ARSList: "Where the Answers Are" ___ UNSUBSCRIBE or access ARSlist Archives at www.arslist.org attend wwrug12 www.wwrug12.com ARSList: "Where the Answers Are" CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE: This email communication is intended only for the personal and confidential use of the recipient(s) designated above and may contain information which is subject to Federal and/or State privacy laws. In the event that you are not the intended recipient or the agent of the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any review, disclosure, or use of the information contained herein is strictly prohibited. Do not copy or use the information contained within this communication, or allow it to be read, copied or utilized in any manner by any other person(s). If you have received this communication in error, please notify the sender immediately, either by response e-mail or by phone, and permanently delete the original e-mail, any attachment(s), and copies
Re: Can we change char size of Organisation field across ITSM
Any chance that you could export the forms to a DEF file, manually edit the DEF file to reflect the changes you desire, then import the edited DEF file? -Original Message- From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) [mailto:arslist@ARSLIST.ORG] On Behalf Of David Sanders Sent: Friday, July 13, 2012 12:30 PM To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG Subject: Re: Can we change char size of Organisation field across ITSM Do NOT attempt to change the data in the field_char view manually. This will certainly cause issues. If you change the length of the Organization field in the 361 forms where it occurs, this change will be reflected automatically in the meta data. David Sanders Solution Architect Enterprise Service Suite @ Work / e-ServiceSuite tel +44 1494 468980 mobile +44 7710 377761 email david.sand...@westoverconsulting.co.uk web http://www.westoverconsulting.co.uk http://www.e-servicesuite.co.uk ITIL - SaaS - On Premise -Original Message- From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) [mailto:arslist@ARSLIST.ORG] On Behalf Of ITSM.Support Sent: 13 July 2012 17:38 To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG Subject: Re: Can we change char size of Organisation field across ITSM Hi, According to the observations so far, we cannot modify the character size of the mentioned fields using the remedy application. The field 'Organization' is on the 361 forms with the same database field ID. Though it may be possible that we can update it at database level, but the same operation needs to be performed on each form. For this we have 'AR System Metadata:field_char' form, where all the meta-data related to character fields are stored. It's a view form. We need to update the meta-data, the related record in order to achieve this. But this option is not tried and tested, as it may cause the severe malfunction at DB level. -- Regards, ITSM Support Vyom Labs Pvt. Ltd. BSM Solutions & Services || ITIL Consulting & Training Email: i...@vyomlabs.com || Web Site: www.vyomlabs.com Follow Vyom Labs http://twitter.com/#!/vyomlabs || http://www.linkedin.com/company/vyom-labs -Original Message- From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) [mailto:arslist@ARSLIST.ORG] On Behalf Of Vikram Sent: Thursday, July 12, 2012 9:23 PM To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG Subject: Can we change char size of Organisation field across ITSM hi All, I have a requirement where I need to change the char size of Organisation field in ITSM from 60 to 254 chars. Is there any way where we can do this in one place and it would reflect in all 300+ forms where this field is used. It would be a bad task to do manually, do anyone know a tweak for this or perhaps a utility for the same. There are 4 -5 such OOTB widely used fields which we need to increase size of. Thanks in advance, Vikram ___ UNSUBSCRIBE or access ARSlist Archives at www.arslist.org attend wwrug12 www.wwrug12.com ARSList: "Where the Answers Are" ___ UNSUBSCRIBE or access ARSlist Archives at www.arslist.org attend wwrug12 www.wwrug12.com ARSList: "Where the Answers Are" ___ UNSUBSCRIBE or access ARSlist Archives at www.arslist.org attend wwrug12 www.wwrug12.com ARSList: "Where the Answers Are" ___ UNSUBSCRIBE or access ARSlist Archives at www.arslist.org attend wwrug12 www.wwrug12.com ARSList: "Where the Answers Are"
Re: Can we change char size of Organisation field across ITSM
Do NOT attempt to change the data in the field_char view manually. This will certainly cause issues. If you change the length of the Organization field in the 361 forms where it occurs, this change will be reflected automatically in the meta data. David Sanders Solution Architect Enterprise Service Suite @ Work / e-ServiceSuite tel +44 1494 468980 mobile +44 7710 377761 email david.sand...@westoverconsulting.co.uk web http://www.westoverconsulting.co.uk http://www.e-servicesuite.co.uk ITIL – SaaS – On Premise -Original Message- From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) [mailto:arslist@ARSLIST.ORG] On Behalf Of ITSM.Support Sent: 13 July 2012 17:38 To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG Subject: Re: Can we change char size of Organisation field across ITSM Hi, According to the observations so far, we cannot modify the character size of the mentioned fields using the remedy application. The field 'Organization' is on the 361 forms with the same database field ID. Though it may be possible that we can update it at database level, but the same operation needs to be performed on each form. For this we have 'AR System Metadata:field_char' form, where all the meta-data related to character fields are stored. It’s a view form. We need to update the meta-data, the related record in order to achieve this. But this option is not tried and tested, as it may cause the severe malfunction at DB level. -- Regards, ITSM Support Vyom Labs Pvt. Ltd. BSM Solutions & Services || ITIL Consulting & Training Email: i...@vyomlabs.com || Web Site: www.vyomlabs.com Follow Vyom Labs http://twitter.com/#!/vyomlabs || http://www.linkedin.com/company/vyom-labs -Original Message- From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) [mailto:arslist@ARSLIST.ORG] On Behalf Of Vikram Sent: Thursday, July 12, 2012 9:23 PM To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG Subject: Can we change char size of Organisation field across ITSM hi All, I have a requirement where I need to change the char size of Organisation field in ITSM from 60 to 254 chars. Is there any way where we can do this in one place and it would reflect in all 300+ forms where this field is used. It would be a bad task to do manually, do anyone know a tweak for this or perhaps a utility for the same. There are 4 -5 such OOTB widely used fields which we need to increase size of. Thanks in advance, Vikram ___ UNSUBSCRIBE or access ARSlist Archives at www.arslist.org attend wwrug12 www.wwrug12.com ARSList: "Where the Answers Are" ___ UNSUBSCRIBE or access ARSlist Archives at www.arslist.org attend wwrug12 www.wwrug12.com ARSList: "Where the Answers Are" ___ UNSUBSCRIBE or access ARSlist Archives at www.arslist.org attend wwrug12 www.wwrug12.com ARSList: "Where the Answers Are"
Re: Can we change char size of Organisation field across ITSM
I personally would write a quick java application that loads all of the forms, pulls does a get on the specific field, sets its attributes properly, sets the field back to the server...it would take about an hour to write the program (if that) and as long as it takes for the change to happen at the API levelbut significantly less time than it would take to do it through the dev studio, and I would NEVER attempt to do it at the DB level. -Original Message- From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) [mailto:arslist@ARSLIST.ORG] On Behalf Of ITSM.Support Sent: Friday, July 13, 2012 10:38 AM To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG Subject: Re: Can we change char size of Organisation field across ITSM Hi, According to the observations so far, we cannot modify the character size of the mentioned fields using the remedy application. The field 'Organization' is on the 361 forms with the same database field ID. Though it may be possible that we can update it at database level, but the same operation needs to be performed on each form. For this we have 'AR System Metadata:field_char' form, where all the meta-data related to character fields are stored. It’s a view form. We need to update the meta-data, the related record in order to achieve this. But this option is not tried and tested, as it may cause the severe malfunction at DB level. -- Regards, ITSM Support Vyom Labs Pvt. Ltd. BSM Solutions & Services || ITIL Consulting & Training Email: i...@vyomlabs.com || Web Site: www.vyomlabs.com Follow Vyom Labs http://twitter.com/#!/vyomlabs || http://www.linkedin.com/company/vyom-labs -Original Message- From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) [mailto:arslist@ARSLIST.ORG] On Behalf Of Vikram Sent: Thursday, July 12, 2012 9:23 PM To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG Subject: Can we change char size of Organisation field across ITSM hi All, I have a requirement where I need to change the char size of Organisation field in ITSM from 60 to 254 chars. Is there any way where we can do this in one place and it would reflect in all 300+ forms where this field is used. It would be a bad task to do manually, do anyone know a tweak for this or perhaps a utility for the same. There are 4 -5 such OOTB widely used fields which we need to increase size of. Thanks in advance, Vikram ___ UNSUBSCRIBE or access ARSlist Archives at www.arslist.org attend wwrug12 www.wwrug12.com ARSList: "Where the Answers Are" ___ UNSUBSCRIBE or access ARSlist Archives at www.arslist.org attend wwrug12 www.wwrug12.com ARSList: "Where the Answers Are" ___ UNSUBSCRIBE or access ARSlist Archives at www.arslist.org attend wwrug12 www.wwrug12.com ARSList: "Where the Answers Are"
Re: Can we change char size of Organisation field across ITSM
Hi, According to the observations so far, we cannot modify the character size of the mentioned fields using the remedy application. The field 'Organization' is on the 361 forms with the same database field ID. Though it may be possible that we can update it at database level, but the same operation needs to be performed on each form. For this we have 'AR System Metadata:field_char' form, where all the meta-data related to character fields are stored. It’s a view form. We need to update the meta-data, the related record in order to achieve this. But this option is not tried and tested, as it may cause the severe malfunction at DB level. -- Regards, ITSM Support Vyom Labs Pvt. Ltd. BSM Solutions & Services || ITIL Consulting & Training Email: i...@vyomlabs.com || Web Site: www.vyomlabs.com Follow Vyom Labs http://twitter.com/#!/vyomlabs || http://www.linkedin.com/company/vyom-labs -Original Message- From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) [mailto:arslist@ARSLIST.ORG] On Behalf Of Vikram Sent: Thursday, July 12, 2012 9:23 PM To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG Subject: Can we change char size of Organisation field across ITSM hi All, I have a requirement where I need to change the char size of Organisation field in ITSM from 60 to 254 chars. Is there any way where we can do this in one place and it would reflect in all 300+ forms where this field is used. It would be a bad task to do manually, do anyone know a tweak for this or perhaps a utility for the same. There are 4 -5 such OOTB widely used fields which we need to increase size of. Thanks in advance, Vikram ___ UNSUBSCRIBE or access ARSlist Archives at www.arslist.org attend wwrug12 www.wwrug12.com ARSList: "Where the Answers Are" ___ UNSUBSCRIBE or access ARSlist Archives at www.arslist.org attend wwrug12 www.wwrug12.com ARSList: "Where the Answers Are"
Can we change char size of Organisation field across ITSM
hi All, I have a requirement where I need to change the char size of Organisation field in ITSM from 60 to 254 chars. Is there any way where we can do this in one place and it would reflect in all 300+ forms where this field is used. It would be a bad task to do manually, do anyone know a tweak for this or perhaps a utility for the same. There are 4 -5 such OOTB widely used fields which we need to increase size of. Thanks in advance, Vikram ___ UNSUBSCRIBE or access ARSlist Archives at www.arslist.org attend wwrug12 www.wwrug12.com ARSList: "Where the Answers Are"
