Re: Caught Exception Object Expected - 7.6.04 Mid-tier - Update

2012-08-14 Thread Longwing, LJ CTR MDA/IC
Jesus,
We once had a problem with our load balanced scenario when using short vs long 
names.  It turned out that the issue was with DNS Domain Suffix Search Order.  
Some of our machines were in order

Server.domain1.com
Server.domain2.com

And others were in

Server.domain2.com
Server.domain1.com

Order, where the user was specifying 'server'.this caused some clients to 
properly hit the correct server, and others, not.  So being this is a problem 
on the mid-tier servers, I would recommend checking a ping of the short name 
and long name from all of your web servers and verify that all of them hit the 
correct IP...you may be surprised.

-Original Message-
From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) 
[mailto:arslist@ARSLIST.ORG] On Behalf Of Ortega, Jesus A
Sent: Monday, August 13, 2012 3:22 PM
To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
Subject: Re: Caught Exception Object Expected - 7.6.04 Mid-tier - Update

I have an update on the Caught Exception issue. It turns out that the issue 
goes away whenever I put in the fully qualified domain name for my server group 
alias as the preference server in the mid-tier config tool. I was working with 
BMC this morning on it and we were experimenting pointing my dev mid-tier 
towards on the application servers in production. The problem disappeared 
whenever I would point the mid-tier directly at an application server. So, then 
we tried using the short name for the server group. That didn't work. Then I 
got the idea to try using the FQDN of the server group. Bingo! It worked using 
the FQDN of the server group as the preference server on the general settings 
tab. We will keep experimenting with it because it doesn't answer the question 
as to why the problem went away when I blew away the person's AR System Search 
Preferences.

Jesus Ortega
Senior II, Implementation Engineer
LyondellBasell Industries
Office: 713 309-4914
Cell:281 546-0735


-Original Message-
From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) 
[mailto:arslist@ARSLIST.ORG] On Behalf Of Francois Seegers
Sent: Thursday, August 02, 2012 9:32 PM
To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
Subject: Re: Caught Exception Object Expected - 7.6.04 Mid-tier

Make sure you do not have reverse proxies that cache the Remedy URL's.  We were 
advised by BMC a while ago that the mid-tier is the only component that should 
handle the cache.  After our proxy guys disabled the cache from NOT happening 
on the reverse proxies all worked fine.

Cheers
Francois

-Original Message-
From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) 
[mailto:arslist@ARSLIST.ORG] On Behalf Of Brian Pancia
Sent: Friday, August 03, 2012 1:42 AM
To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
Subject: Re: Caught Exception Object Expected - 7.6.04 Mid-tier

The reason clearing the cache and closing ie seems to work is because you are 
reestablishing a connection.  What happens is a user swaps mid tier sessions 
while they are in remedy.  The session headers are not swapped over popping up 
the error.  Clear cache close ie and log back in will of coarse work every time 
but it doesn't fix the problem.  The swapping is random and on not consistent 
with any user.  This would tell you more than likely a hot fix will not fix the 
issue.  It is hard to trouble shoot because it is random and the simple thing 
to do would be load a hot fix.  There are caught exceptions were this is the 
case but not this one.


On 8/2/12, patchsk vamsi...@gmail.com wrote:
 We have seen this happening randomly to several users.
 The solution was to delete the IE cache on the client PC.
 Just clicking clear cache sometimes did not help.
 Consistent way to remove IE cache is
 IE -- Tools -- Internet Options -- General tab -- Browsing History
 -- Settings -- View files --  and select all and delete.
 The above steps basically takes you to the below folder:
 C:\Users\username\AppData\Local\Microsoft\Windows\Temporary Internet
 Files

 Close the browser and relogin to remedy.

 On Thursday, August 2, 2012 3:05:44 PM UTC-7, Ortega, Jesus A wrote:

 **

 I tried to flush the cache several times. I even tried to delete the
 cache

 files manually in the mid-tier cache directory and on the Tomcat
 Catalina

 working directory. It did not help. Fiddler does not capture anything
 either. I was told by Claire Sanford that there is a new mid-tier
 patch that just came out for 7.6.04 SP3. I just downloaded it and
 plan to try it

 in my dev environment. The weird thing is that the development
 environment

 shows no signs of problems. It is just the production one. Then
 again, Dev

 is just a straight one mid-tier and one app server configuration.







 Jesus Ortega

 Senior II, Implementation Engineer

 LyondellBasell Industries

 Office: 713 309-4914

 Cell:281 546-0735



 *From:* Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) [mailto:
 arslist@ARSLIST.ORG] *On Behalf Of *ravi rai
 *Sent:* Thursday, August 02, 2012 4:26 PM
 *To:* arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
 *Subject:* Re: Caught Exception

Re: Caught Exception Object Expected - 7.6.04 Mid-tier - Update

2012-08-13 Thread Ortega, Jesus A
I have an update on the Caught Exception issue. It turns out that the issue 
goes away whenever I put in the fully qualified domain name for my server group 
alias as the preference server in the mid-tier config tool. I was working with 
BMC this morning on it and we were experimenting pointing my dev mid-tier 
towards on the application servers in production. The problem disappeared 
whenever I would point the mid-tier directly at an application server. So, then 
we tried using the short name for the server group. That didn't work. Then I 
got the idea to try using the FQDN of the server group. Bingo! It worked using 
the FQDN of the server group as the preference server on the general settings 
tab. We will keep experimenting with it because it doesn't answer the question 
as to why the problem went away when I blew away the person's AR System Search 
Preferences. 

Jesus Ortega
Senior II, Implementation Engineer 
LyondellBasell Industries
Office: 713 309-4914
Cell:    281 546-0735


-Original Message-
From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) 
[mailto:arslist@ARSLIST.ORG] On Behalf Of Francois Seegers
Sent: Thursday, August 02, 2012 9:32 PM
To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
Subject: Re: Caught Exception Object Expected - 7.6.04 Mid-tier

Make sure you do not have reverse proxies that cache the Remedy URL's.  We were 
advised by BMC a while ago that the mid-tier is the only component that should 
handle the cache.  After our proxy guys disabled the cache from NOT happening 
on the reverse proxies all worked fine.

Cheers
Francois

-Original Message-
From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) 
[mailto:arslist@ARSLIST.ORG] On Behalf Of Brian Pancia
Sent: Friday, August 03, 2012 1:42 AM
To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
Subject: Re: Caught Exception Object Expected - 7.6.04 Mid-tier

The reason clearing the cache and closing ie seems to work is because you are 
reestablishing a connection.  What happens is a user swaps mid tier sessions 
while they are in remedy.  The session headers are not swapped over popping up 
the error.  Clear cache close ie and log back in will of coarse work every time 
but it doesn't fix the problem.  The swapping is random and on not consistent 
with any user.  This would tell you more than likely a hot fix will not fix the 
issue.  It is hard to trouble shoot because it is random and the simple thing 
to do would be load a hot fix.  There are caught exceptions were this is the 
case but not this one.


On 8/2/12, patchsk vamsi...@gmail.com wrote:
 We have seen this happening randomly to several users.
 The solution was to delete the IE cache on the client PC.
 Just clicking clear cache sometimes did not help.
 Consistent way to remove IE cache is
 IE -- Tools -- Internet Options -- General tab -- Browsing History
 -- Settings -- View files --  and select all and delete.
 The above steps basically takes you to the below folder:
 C:\Users\username\AppData\Local\Microsoft\Windows\Temporary Internet 
 Files

 Close the browser and relogin to remedy.

 On Thursday, August 2, 2012 3:05:44 PM UTC-7, Ortega, Jesus A wrote:

 **

 I tried to flush the cache several times. I even tried to delete the 
 cache

 files manually in the mid-tier cache directory and on the Tomcat 
 Catalina

 working directory. It did not help. Fiddler does not capture anything 
 either. I was told by Claire Sanford that there is a new mid-tier 
 patch that just came out for 7.6.04 SP3. I just downloaded it and 
 plan to try it

 in my dev environment. The weird thing is that the development 
 environment

 shows no signs of problems. It is just the production one. Then 
 again, Dev

 is just a straight one mid-tier and one app server configuration.







 Jesus Ortega

 Senior II, Implementation Engineer

 LyondellBasell Industries

 Office: 713 309-4914

 Cell:281 546-0735



 *From:* Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) [mailto:
 arslist@ARSLIST.ORG] *On Behalf Of *ravi rai
 *Sent:* Thursday, August 02, 2012 4:26 PM
 *To:* arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
 *Subject:* Re: Caught Exception Object Expected - 7.6.04 Mid-tier



 **

 Do cache flush on all mid tier nodes.

 On IE hit F12 new popup will open go to Cache and select Clear 
 browser Cache for this domain Close all browser and retry


 Regards
 Ravi Rai


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 Date: Thu, 2 Aug 2012 16:20:39 -0400
 From: jdso...@shyle.net
 Subject: Re: Caught Exception Object Expected - 7.6.04 Mid-tier
 To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG

 **



 If it does not work on IE as well on a supported version, then was it 
 ever

 working? If so any updates to the Java libraries?



 Joe



 *From:* Ortega, Jesus A jesus.ort...@lyondellbasell.com

 *Sent:* Thursday, August 02, 2012 4:12 PM

 *Newsgroups:* public.remedy.arsystem.general

 *To:* arslist@ARSLIST.ORG

 *Subject:* Re: Caught Exception Object Expected - 7.6.04 Mid-tier



 **

 Yes, we are using IE 8 as our main browser. I just ran the diagnostic 
 in Firefox to get more