Re: Competitors to Remedy ARS?
I've got two words that make me not want to deal with writing my own app from scratch: Rollback Transaction... That's the beauty of Remedy, it takes care of all of the network stuff and all of the database stuff on its own. However, I can certainly understand cost being an issue. Thanks, Gary Opela, Jr Sr. Remedy Developer Leader Communications, Inc. 405 736 3211 -Original Message- From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Kaiser Norm E CIV USAF 96 CS/SCCE Sent: Friday, October 05, 2007 7:59 AM To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG Subject: Re: Competitors to Remedy ARS? The trial version is command line only. The registered version allows GUI apps. -Original Message- From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Dayton Gay Wheeler Sent: Thursday, October 04, 2007 9:04 PM To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG Subject: Re: Competitors to Remedy ARS? I downloaded hotbasic and did this - where do you hit the F5 key? It appears to be a command line tool -Original Message- From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Kaiser Norm E CIV USAF 96 CS/SCCE Sent: Thursday, October 04, 2007 10:57 AM To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG Subject: Re: Competitors to Remedy ARS? Or HotBasic. With HotBasic you type this: CREATE newForm AS FORM END CREATE newForm.SHOWMODAL and then hit the F5 key and voila! A Windows form appears on the screen. Then do this: CREATE newForm AS FORM CREATE newEditField AS EDIT END CREATE END CREATE newForm.SHOWMODAL and your form now appears with a character field on it. Very, very easy. Much easier than .Net, yet with comparable capabilities. Norm -Original Message- From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Pierson, Shawn Sent: Thursday, October 04, 2007 9:48 AM To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG Subject: Re: Competitors to Remedy ARS? Perhaps you should give more requirements. You mentioned that you want something like ARS, but don't really care about ITSM or any specific type of module. It sounds like you're wanting to build custom database driven applications, right? If so, rather than looking at something like Remedy, you'd be better off finding a traditional development language that has a good interface to build forms and back end workflow. I don't know of any as easy as Remedy, but .NET would be a good option for something similar. Shawn Pierson -Original Message- From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Alec Alec Sent: Thursday, October 04, 2007 9:46 AM To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG Subject: Re: Competitors to Remedy ARS? I require the email functionality. Sent via BlackBerry from T-Mobile -Original Message- From: "Opela, Gary L Contr OC-ALC/ITMA" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Date: Thu, 4 Oct 2007 09:36:35 To:arslist@ARSLIST.ORG Subject: Re: Competitors to Remedy ARS? Just install an unlicensed version of remedy. I think it allows you up to 1000 records creation, and 3 user licenses. This is good practice too to hone your remedy development skills, so you benefit in your job as well. Now, if you are deploying/selling this application to end users, I'm not sure how that would play in with remedy's licensing model. So, if you are not going to be the only one using it, then this might not work. Thanks, Gary Opela, Jr Sr. Remedy Developer Leader Communications, Inc. 405 736 3211 -Original Message- From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Cupp, Michael E CTR USAF AFRL/RYOD Sent: Thursday, October 04, 2007 9:17 AM To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG Subject: Re: Competitors to Remedy ARS? Sorry for jumping in therethis seems interesting to me as well. :) -Original Message- From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Timothy Powell Sent: Thursday, October 04, 2007 10:09 AM To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG Subject: Re: Competitors to Remedy ARS? How many users? -Original Message- From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Alec Alec Sent: Thursday, October 04, 2007 9:12 AM To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG Subject: Re: Competitors to Remedy ARS? Largest form would be less than 2500 row, probably less than 1000 Sent via BlackBerry from T-Mobile -Original Message- From: "Pickering, Christopher" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Date: Thu, 4 Oct 2007 08:15:10 To:arslist@ARSLIST.ORG Subject: Re: Competitors to Remedy ARS? How much data would you expect the system to hold? Chris Pickering -Original Message- From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Alec Alec Sent: Wednesday,
Re: Competitors to Remedy ARS?
The trial version is command line only. The registered version allows GUI apps. -Original Message- From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Dayton Gay Wheeler Sent: Thursday, October 04, 2007 9:04 PM To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG Subject: Re: Competitors to Remedy ARS? I downloaded hotbasic and did this - where do you hit the F5 key? It appears to be a command line tool -Original Message- From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Kaiser Norm E CIV USAF 96 CS/SCCE Sent: Thursday, October 04, 2007 10:57 AM To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG Subject: Re: Competitors to Remedy ARS? Or HotBasic. With HotBasic you type this: CREATE newForm AS FORM END CREATE newForm.SHOWMODAL and then hit the F5 key and voila! A Windows form appears on the screen. Then do this: CREATE newForm AS FORM CREATE newEditField AS EDIT END CREATE END CREATE newForm.SHOWMODAL and your form now appears with a character field on it. Very, very easy. Much easier than .Net, yet with comparable capabilities. Norm -Original Message- From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Pierson, Shawn Sent: Thursday, October 04, 2007 9:48 AM To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG Subject: Re: Competitors to Remedy ARS? Perhaps you should give more requirements. You mentioned that you want something like ARS, but don't really care about ITSM or any specific type of module. It sounds like you're wanting to build custom database driven applications, right? If so, rather than looking at something like Remedy, you'd be better off finding a traditional development language that has a good interface to build forms and back end workflow. I don't know of any as easy as Remedy, but .NET would be a good option for something similar. Shawn Pierson -Original Message- From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Alec Alec Sent: Thursday, October 04, 2007 9:46 AM To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG Subject: Re: Competitors to Remedy ARS? I require the email functionality. Sent via BlackBerry from T-Mobile -Original Message- From: "Opela, Gary L Contr OC-ALC/ITMA" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Date: Thu, 4 Oct 2007 09:36:35 To:arslist@ARSLIST.ORG Subject: Re: Competitors to Remedy ARS? Just install an unlicensed version of remedy. I think it allows you up to 1000 records creation, and 3 user licenses. This is good practice too to hone your remedy development skills, so you benefit in your job as well. Now, if you are deploying/selling this application to end users, I'm not sure how that would play in with remedy's licensing model. So, if you are not going to be the only one using it, then this might not work. Thanks, Gary Opela, Jr Sr. Remedy Developer Leader Communications, Inc. 405 736 3211 -Original Message- From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Cupp, Michael E CTR USAF AFRL/RYOD Sent: Thursday, October 04, 2007 9:17 AM To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG Subject: Re: Competitors to Remedy ARS? Sorry for jumping in therethis seems interesting to me as well. :) -Original Message- From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Timothy Powell Sent: Thursday, October 04, 2007 10:09 AM To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG Subject: Re: Competitors to Remedy ARS? How many users? -Original Message- From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Alec Alec Sent: Thursday, October 04, 2007 9:12 AM To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG Subject: Re: Competitors to Remedy ARS? Largest form would be less than 2500 row, probably less than 1000 Sent via BlackBerry from T-Mobile -Original Message- From: "Pickering, Christopher" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Date: Thu, 4 Oct 2007 08:15:10 To:arslist@ARSLIST.ORG Subject: Re: Competitors to Remedy ARS? How much data would you expect the system to hold? Chris Pickering -Original Message- From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Alec Alec Sent: Wednesday, October 03, 2007 5:58 PM To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG Subject: Competitors to Remedy ARS? Are there any less expensive, freeware, open source, etc. competitors to the Remedy ARS product? I have a small home project that I would like to complete, but can't afford ARS for home. I am looking only for the engine, no attached HD app, etc. Thanks! Alec Sent via BlackBerry from T-Mobile ___ UNSUBSCRIBE or access ARSlist Archives at www.arslist.org ARSlist:"Where the Answers Are" __
Re: Competitors to Remedy ARS?
I downloaded hotbasic and did this - where do you hit the F5 key? It appears to be a command line tool -Original Message- From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Kaiser Norm E CIV USAF 96 CS/SCCE Sent: Thursday, October 04, 2007 10:57 AM To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG Subject: Re: Competitors to Remedy ARS? Or HotBasic. With HotBasic you type this: CREATE newForm AS FORM END CREATE newForm.SHOWMODAL and then hit the F5 key and voila! A Windows form appears on the screen. Then do this: CREATE newForm AS FORM CREATE newEditField AS EDIT END CREATE END CREATE newForm.SHOWMODAL and your form now appears with a character field on it. Very, very easy. Much easier than .Net, yet with comparable capabilities. Norm -Original Message- From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Pierson, Shawn Sent: Thursday, October 04, 2007 9:48 AM To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG Subject: Re: Competitors to Remedy ARS? Perhaps you should give more requirements. You mentioned that you want something like ARS, but don't really care about ITSM or any specific type of module. It sounds like you're wanting to build custom database driven applications, right? If so, rather than looking at something like Remedy, you'd be better off finding a traditional development language that has a good interface to build forms and back end workflow. I don't know of any as easy as Remedy, but .NET would be a good option for something similar. Shawn Pierson -Original Message- From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Alec Alec Sent: Thursday, October 04, 2007 9:46 AM To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG Subject: Re: Competitors to Remedy ARS? I require the email functionality. Sent via BlackBerry from T-Mobile -Original Message- From: "Opela, Gary L Contr OC-ALC/ITMA" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Date: Thu, 4 Oct 2007 09:36:35 To:arslist@ARSLIST.ORG Subject: Re: Competitors to Remedy ARS? Just install an unlicensed version of remedy. I think it allows you up to 1000 records creation, and 3 user licenses. This is good practice too to hone your remedy development skills, so you benefit in your job as well. Now, if you are deploying/selling this application to end users, I'm not sure how that would play in with remedy's licensing model. So, if you are not going to be the only one using it, then this might not work. Thanks, Gary Opela, Jr Sr. Remedy Developer Leader Communications, Inc. 405 736 3211 -Original Message- From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Cupp, Michael E CTR USAF AFRL/RYOD Sent: Thursday, October 04, 2007 9:17 AM To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG Subject: Re: Competitors to Remedy ARS? Sorry for jumping in therethis seems interesting to me as well. :) -Original Message- From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Timothy Powell Sent: Thursday, October 04, 2007 10:09 AM To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG Subject: Re: Competitors to Remedy ARS? How many users? -Original Message- From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Alec Alec Sent: Thursday, October 04, 2007 9:12 AM To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG Subject: Re: Competitors to Remedy ARS? Largest form would be less than 2500 row, probably less than 1000 Sent via BlackBerry from T-Mobile -Original Message- From: "Pickering, Christopher" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Date: Thu, 4 Oct 2007 08:15:10 To:arslist@ARSLIST.ORG Subject: Re: Competitors to Remedy ARS? How much data would you expect the system to hold? Chris Pickering -Original Message- From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Alec Alec Sent: Wednesday, October 03, 2007 5:58 PM To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG Subject: Competitors to Remedy ARS? Are there any less expensive, freeware, open source, etc. competitors to the Remedy ARS product? I have a small home project that I would like to complete, but can't afford ARS for home. I am looking only for the engine, no attached HD app, etc. Thanks! Alec Sent via BlackBerry from T-Mobile ___ UNSUBSCRIBE or access ARSlist Archives at www.arslist.org ARSlist:"Where the Answers Are" ___ UNSUBSCRIBE or access ARSlist Archives at www.arslist.org ARSlist:"Where the Answers Are" ___ UNSUBSCRIBE or access ARSlist Archives at www.arslist.org ARSlist:"Where the Answers Are" _
Re: Competitors to Remedy ARS? 2000 record limit on unlicensed servers
David, There was a Helpdesk Express. It was packaged with a version of Oracle as I recall, all on one cd. It and the 4.x versions of the full Helpdesk product came with 3 licenses that matched up to the 3 that comes with the server. I think I still have the cd around here somewhere Tim -Original Message- From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Easter, David Sent: Thursday, October 04, 2007 4:01 PM To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG Subject: Re: Competitors to Remedy ARS? 2000 record limit on unlicensed servers > The Remedy Helpdesk Express You are probably thinking of the Small Business Edition of Help Desk, which is a different topic completely. The Small Business Edition had it's own license (which is informally called a dedicated server license) that restricted the use of AR System to only that application through technical means. The dedicated license itself defines the number of fixed and floating users available. An unlicensed server is just that - unlicensed. It cannot be used to support a commercial product. It is intended for use in trials, demos, and proof of concepts. It could theoretically be used for individual personal use if you stay within the boundaries already defined (3 fixed users, 2000 records per form, etc.) Thanks, David J. Easter Product Line Manager BMC Software AR System - BMC Service Management Business Unit +001 (408) 571-7384 -Original Message- From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Misi Mladoniczky Sent: Thursday, October 04, 2007 12:45 PM To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG Subject: Re: Competitors to Remedy ARS? 2000 record limit on unlicensed servers Hi David, Could you enlighten us about areas where an unlicensed server would be allowed? The Remedy Helpdesk Express (I think it was called) used ARServer 4.5 or 5.0 (I think...), and you were allowed to use it to its limit of 3 users and 2000 records per form. Best Regards - Misi, RRR AB, http://www.rrr.se Products from RRR Scandinavia: * RRR|License - Not enough Remedy licenses? Save money by optimizing. * RRR|Log - Performance issues or elusive bugs? Analyze your Remedy logs. * RRR|Translator - Manage and automate your language translations. Find these products, and many free tools and utilities, at http://rrr.se. > >> Note that I do not know yet if 7.1 has changed any of this. > > AR System 7.1.00 did not change how licenses or licensing works. It > only changed the need for license keys and added self-reporting > capabilities. > > Thanks, > > -David J. Easter > Sr. Product Manager, Service Management Business Unit BMC Software, > Inc. > > The opinions, statements, and/or suggested courses of action expressed > in this E-mail do not necessarily reflect those of BMC Software, Inc. > My voluntary participation in this forum is not intended to convey a > role as a spokesperson, liaison or public relations representative for > BMC Software, Inc. > > -Original Message- > From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Ben Chernys > Sent: Thursday, October 04, 2007 8:29 AM > To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG > Subject: Re: Competitors to Remedy ARS? 2000 record limit on > unlicensed servers > > It's a maximum of 2000 at any given time. Insertion is not permitted > into a form if that form has 2000 or more records. Deletion of > records will permit insertion once the current total number of records > is reduced to under 2000. > > Note that I do not know yet if 7.1 has changed any of this. Up until > 7.0.x this was always the case. The Administrator's related workflow > always failed on unlicensed servers because of this limit. > > 3 fixed licenses, 0 floating. No ARS app licenses. > > Ben > >>- --- Original Message --- - >>From:"Watson, Benjamin A." >><[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >>To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG >>Sent: Thu, 4 Oct 2007 08:19:06 >> >>I could see an unlicensed server using e-mail approach the 2000 record >>limit on the e-mail form fairly easily. >> >>I suppose you could delete old records? I guess that begs refinement >>of the max record limit on an unlicensed Remedy install. >> >>Is it 2000 records at any given time, or 2000 records for the entire >>history/life of the form? >> >>Ben >> >>-Original Message- >>From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >>[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On >>Behalf Of L. J. Head >>Sent: Thursday, October 04, 2007 9:59 AM >>To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG >>Subject: Re: Competitors to Remedy ARS? >> >>Unlicensed server can do Email >> >>-Original Message- &g
Re: Competitors to Remedy ARS? 2000 record limit on unlicensed servers
My understanding is that you can use an unlicensed server in a non production environment for evaluation purposes. KB entry KM-00020072 <http://support.bmc.com/KMSUSER/DocView_SHFrame.htm?p=&user=public&d=/kmspublic/KM-00020072.htm&vg=selfhelp> gives you insight on what limitations you will encounter when using an unlicensed server. You can otherwise request a 30 day trial/evaluation Server license from BMC. Seth From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) on behalf of Misi Mladoniczky Sent: Thu 10/4/2007 3:45 PM To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG Subject: Re: Competitors to Remedy ARS? 2000 record limit on unlicensed servers Hi David, Could you enlighten us about areas where an unlicensed server would be allowed? The Remedy Helpdesk Express (I think it was called) used ARServer 4.5 or 5.0 (I think...), and you were allowed to use it to its limit of 3 users and 2000 records per form. Best Regards - Misi, RRR AB, http://www.rrr.se <http://www.rrr.se/> Products from RRR Scandinavia: * RRR|License - Not enough Remedy licenses? Save money by optimizing. * RRR|Log - Performance issues or elusive bugs? Analyze your Remedy logs. * RRR|Translator - Manage and automate your language translations. Find these products, and many free tools and utilities, at http://rrr.se <http://rrr.se/> . > >> Note that I do not know yet if 7.1 has changed any of this. > > AR System 7.1.00 did not change how licenses or licensing works. It > only changed the need for license keys and added self-reporting > capabilities. > > Thanks, > > -David J. Easter > Sr. Product Manager, Service Management Business Unit > BMC Software, Inc. > > The opinions, statements, and/or suggested courses of action expressed > in this E-mail do not necessarily reflect those of BMC Software, Inc. > My voluntary participation in this forum is not intended to convey a > role as a spokesperson, liaison or public relations representative for > BMC Software, Inc. > > -Original Message- > From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Ben Chernys > Sent: Thursday, October 04, 2007 8:29 AM > To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG > Subject: Re: Competitors to Remedy ARS? 2000 record limit on unlicensed > servers > > It's a maximum of 2000 at any given time. Insertion is not permitted > into a form if that form has 2000 or more records. Deletion of records > will permit insertion once the current total number of records is > reduced to under 2000. > > Note that I do not know yet if 7.1 has changed any of this. Up until > 7.0.x this was always the case. The Administrator's related workflow > always failed on unlicensed servers because of this limit. > > 3 fixed licenses, 0 floating. No ARS app licenses. > > Ben > >>- --- Original Message --- - >>From:"Watson, Benjamin A." >><[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >>To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG >>Sent: Thu, 4 Oct 2007 08:19:06 >> >>I could see an unlicensed server using e-mail approach the 2000 record >>limit on the e-mail form fairly easily. >> >>I suppose you could delete old records? I guess that begs refinement >>of the max record limit on an unlicensed Remedy install. >> >>Is it 2000 records at any given time, or 2000 records for the entire >>history/life of the form? >> >>Ben >> >>-Original Message- >>From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >>[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On >>Behalf Of L. J. Head >>Sent: Thursday, October 04, 2007 9:59 AM >>To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG >>Subject: Re: Competitors to Remedy ARS? >> >>Unlicensed server can do Email >> >>-Original Message- >>From: Action Request System discussion >>list(ARSList) >>[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Alec Alec >>Sent: Thursday, October 04, 2007 8:46 AM >>To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG >>Subject: Re: Competitors to Remedy ARS? >> >>I require the email functionality. >> >> >>Sent via BlackBerry from T-Mobile >> >>-Original Message- >>From:"Opela, Gary L Contr OC-ALC/ITMA" >><[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >> >>Date:Thu, 4 Oct 2007 09:36:35 >>To:arslist@ARSLIST.ORG >>Subject: Re: Competitors to Remedy ARS? >> >> >>Just install an unlicensed version of remedy. I think it allows you up >>to 1000 records creation, and 3 user licenses. This is good practice >>too to hone your remedy development skills, so you benefit in your job >>as well. >> >>Now, if you are deploying/selling this application to end users, I'm
Re: Competitors to Remedy ARS? 2000 record limit on unlicensed servers
> The Remedy Helpdesk Express You are probably thinking of the Small Business Edition of Help Desk, which is a different topic completely. The Small Business Edition had it's own license (which is informally called a dedicated server license) that restricted the use of AR System to only that application through technical means. The dedicated license itself defines the number of fixed and floating users available. An unlicensed server is just that - unlicensed. It cannot be used to support a commercial product. It is intended for use in trials, demos, and proof of concepts. It could theoretically be used for individual personal use if you stay within the boundaries already defined (3 fixed users, 2000 records per form, etc.) Thanks, David J. Easter Product Line Manager BMC Software AR System - BMC Service Management Business Unit +001 (408) 571-7384 -Original Message- From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Misi Mladoniczky Sent: Thursday, October 04, 2007 12:45 PM To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG Subject: Re: Competitors to Remedy ARS? 2000 record limit on unlicensed servers Hi David, Could you enlighten us about areas where an unlicensed server would be allowed? The Remedy Helpdesk Express (I think it was called) used ARServer 4.5 or 5.0 (I think...), and you were allowed to use it to its limit of 3 users and 2000 records per form. Best Regards - Misi, RRR AB, http://www.rrr.se Products from RRR Scandinavia: * RRR|License - Not enough Remedy licenses? Save money by optimizing. * RRR|Log - Performance issues or elusive bugs? Analyze your Remedy logs. * RRR|Translator - Manage and automate your language translations. Find these products, and many free tools and utilities, at http://rrr.se. > >> Note that I do not know yet if 7.1 has changed any of this. > > AR System 7.1.00 did not change how licenses or licensing works. It > only changed the need for license keys and added self-reporting > capabilities. > > Thanks, > > -David J. Easter > Sr. Product Manager, Service Management Business Unit BMC Software, > Inc. > > The opinions, statements, and/or suggested courses of action expressed > in this E-mail do not necessarily reflect those of BMC Software, Inc. > My voluntary participation in this forum is not intended to convey a > role as a spokesperson, liaison or public relations representative for > BMC Software, Inc. > > -Original Message- > From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Ben Chernys > Sent: Thursday, October 04, 2007 8:29 AM > To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG > Subject: Re: Competitors to Remedy ARS? 2000 record limit on > unlicensed servers > > It's a maximum of 2000 at any given time. Insertion is not permitted > into a form if that form has 2000 or more records. Deletion of > records will permit insertion once the current total number of records > is reduced to under 2000. > > Note that I do not know yet if 7.1 has changed any of this. Up until > 7.0.x this was always the case. The Administrator's related workflow > always failed on unlicensed servers because of this limit. > > 3 fixed licenses, 0 floating. No ARS app licenses. > > Ben > >>- --- Original Message --- - >>From:"Watson, Benjamin A." >><[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >>To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG >>Sent: Thu, 4 Oct 2007 08:19:06 >> >>I could see an unlicensed server using e-mail approach the 2000 record >>limit on the e-mail form fairly easily. >> >>I suppose you could delete old records? I guess that begs refinement >>of the max record limit on an unlicensed Remedy install. >> >>Is it 2000 records at any given time, or 2000 records for the entire >>history/life of the form? >> >>Ben >> >>-Original Message- >>From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >>[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On >>Behalf Of L. J. Head >>Sent: Thursday, October 04, 2007 9:59 AM >>To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG >>Subject: Re: Competitors to Remedy ARS? >> >>Unlicensed server can do Email >> >>-Original Message- >>From: Action Request System discussion >>list(ARSList) >>[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Alec Alec >>Sent: Thursday, October 04, 2007 8:46 AM >>To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG >>Subject: Re: Competitors to Remedy ARS? >> >>I require the email functionality. >> >> >>Sent via BlackBerry from T-Mobile >> >>-Original Message- >>From:"Opela, Gary L Contr OC-ALC/ITMA" >><[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >> >>Date:Thu, 4 Oct 2007 09:36:35 >>To:ars
Re: Competitors to Remedy ARS? 2000 record limit on unlicensed servers
Hi David, Could you enlighten us about areas where an unlicensed server would be allowed? The Remedy Helpdesk Express (I think it was called) used ARServer 4.5 or 5.0 (I think...), and you were allowed to use it to its limit of 3 users and 2000 records per form. Best Regards - Misi, RRR AB, http://www.rrr.se Products from RRR Scandinavia: * RRR|License - Not enough Remedy licenses? Save money by optimizing. * RRR|Log - Performance issues or elusive bugs? Analyze your Remedy logs. * RRR|Translator - Manage and automate your language translations. Find these products, and many free tools and utilities, at http://rrr.se. > >> Note that I do not know yet if 7.1 has changed any of this. > > AR System 7.1.00 did not change how licenses or licensing works. It > only changed the need for license keys and added self-reporting > capabilities. > > Thanks, > > -David J. Easter > Sr. Product Manager, Service Management Business Unit > BMC Software, Inc. > > The opinions, statements, and/or suggested courses of action expressed > in this E-mail do not necessarily reflect those of BMC Software, Inc. > My voluntary participation in this forum is not intended to convey a > role as a spokesperson, liaison or public relations representative for > BMC Software, Inc. > > -Original Message- > From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Ben Chernys > Sent: Thursday, October 04, 2007 8:29 AM > To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG > Subject: Re: Competitors to Remedy ARS? 2000 record limit on unlicensed > servers > > It's a maximum of 2000 at any given time. Insertion is not permitted > into a form if that form has 2000 or more records. Deletion of records > will permit insertion once the current total number of records is > reduced to under 2000. > > Note that I do not know yet if 7.1 has changed any of this. Up until > 7.0.x this was always the case. The Administrator's related workflow > always failed on unlicensed servers because of this limit. > > 3 fixed licenses, 0 floating. No ARS app licenses. > > Ben > >>- --- Original Message --- - >>From:"Watson, Benjamin A." >><[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >>To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG >>Sent: Thu, 4 Oct 2007 08:19:06 >> >>I could see an unlicensed server using e-mail approach the 2000 record >>limit on the e-mail form fairly easily. >> >>I suppose you could delete old records? I guess that begs refinement >>of the max record limit on an unlicensed Remedy install. >> >>Is it 2000 records at any given time, or 2000 records for the entire >>history/life of the form? >> >>Ben >> >>-Original Message- >>From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >>[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On >>Behalf Of L. J. Head >>Sent: Thursday, October 04, 2007 9:59 AM >>To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG >>Subject: Re: Competitors to Remedy ARS? >> >>Unlicensed server can do Email >> >>-Original Message- >>From: Action Request System discussion >>list(ARSList) >>[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Alec Alec >>Sent: Thursday, October 04, 2007 8:46 AM >>To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG >>Subject: Re: Competitors to Remedy ARS? >> >>I require the email functionality. >> >> >>Sent via BlackBerry from T-Mobile >> >>-Original Message- >>From:"Opela, Gary L Contr OC-ALC/ITMA" >><[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >> >>Date:Thu, 4 Oct 2007 09:36:35 >>To:arslist@ARSLIST.ORG >>Subject: Re: Competitors to Remedy ARS? >> >> >>Just install an unlicensed version of remedy. I think it allows you up >>to 1000 records creation, and 3 user licenses. This is good practice >>too to hone your remedy development skills, so you benefit in your job >>as well. >> >>Now, if you are deploying/selling this application to end users, I'm >>not sure how that would play in with remedy's licensing model. So, if >>you are not going to be the only one using it, then this might not >>work. >> >>Thanks, >> >> >>Gary Opela, Jr >> >>Sr. Remedy Developer >> >>Leader Communications, Inc. >> >>405 736 3211 >> >> >>-----Original Message- >>From: Action Request System discussion >>list(ARSList) >>[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Cupp, Michael E CTR USAF >>AFRL/RYOD >>Sent: Thursday, October 04, 2007 9:17 AM >>To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG >>Subject: Re: Competitors to Remedy ARS? >> >>Sorry for jumping in therethis seems interesti
Re: Competitors to Remedy ARS? 2000 record limit on unlicensed servers
> Note that I do not know yet if 7.1 has changed any of this. AR System 7.1.00 did not change how licenses or licensing works. It only changed the need for license keys and added self-reporting capabilities. Thanks, -David J. Easter Sr. Product Manager, Service Management Business Unit BMC Software, Inc. The opinions, statements, and/or suggested courses of action expressed in this E-mail do not necessarily reflect those of BMC Software, Inc. My voluntary participation in this forum is not intended to convey a role as a spokesperson, liaison or public relations representative for BMC Software, Inc. -Original Message- From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Ben Chernys Sent: Thursday, October 04, 2007 8:29 AM To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG Subject: Re: Competitors to Remedy ARS? 2000 record limit on unlicensed servers It's a maximum of 2000 at any given time. Insertion is not permitted into a form if that form has 2000 or more records. Deletion of records will permit insertion once the current total number of records is reduced to under 2000. Note that I do not know yet if 7.1 has changed any of this. Up until 7.0.x this was always the case. The Administrator's related workflow always failed on unlicensed servers because of this limit. 3 fixed licenses, 0 floating. No ARS app licenses. Ben >- --- Original Message --- - >From: "Watson, Benjamin A." ><[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG >Sent: Thu, 4 Oct 2007 08:19:06 > >I could see an unlicensed server using e-mail approach the 2000 record >limit on the e-mail form fairly easily. > >I suppose you could delete old records? I guess that begs refinement >of the max record limit on an unlicensed Remedy install. > >Is it 2000 records at any given time, or 2000 records for the entire >history/life of the form? > >Ben > >-Original Message- >From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On >Behalf Of L. J. Head >Sent: Thursday, October 04, 2007 9:59 AM >To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG >Subject: Re: Competitors to Remedy ARS? > >Unlicensed server can do Email > >-Original Message- >From: Action Request System discussion >list(ARSList) >[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Alec Alec >Sent: Thursday, October 04, 2007 8:46 AM >To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG >Subject: Re: Competitors to Remedy ARS? > >I require the email functionality. > > >Sent via BlackBerry from T-Mobile > >-Original Message- >From: "Opela, Gary L Contr OC-ALC/ITMA" ><[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >Date: Thu, 4 Oct 2007 09:36:35 >To:arslist@ARSLIST.ORG >Subject: Re: Competitors to Remedy ARS? > > >Just install an unlicensed version of remedy. I think it allows you up >to 1000 records creation, and 3 user licenses. This is good practice >too to hone your remedy development skills, so you benefit in your job >as well. > >Now, if you are deploying/selling this application to end users, I'm >not sure how that would play in with remedy's licensing model. So, if >you are not going to be the only one using it, then this might not >work. > >Thanks, > > >Gary Opela, Jr > >Sr. Remedy Developer > >Leader Communications, Inc. > >405 736 3211 > > >-Original Message- >From: Action Request System discussion >list(ARSList) >[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Cupp, Michael E CTR USAF >AFRL/RYOD >Sent: Thursday, October 04, 2007 9:17 AM >To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG >Subject: Re: Competitors to Remedy ARS? > >Sorry for jumping in therethis seems interesting to me as well. >:) > >-Original Message- >From: Action Request System discussion >list(ARSList) >[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Timothy Powell >Sent: Thursday, October 04, 2007 10:09 AM >To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG >Subject: Re: Competitors to Remedy ARS? > >How many users? > >-Original Message- >From: Action Request System discussion >list(ARSList) >[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Alec Alec >Sent: Thursday, October 04, 2007 9:12 AM >To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG >Subject: Re: Competitors to Remedy ARS? > >Largest form would be less than 2500 row, probably less than 1000 > > >Sent via BlackBerry from T-Mobile > >-Original Message- >From: "Pickering, Christopher" > ><[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >Date: Thu, 4 Oct 2007 08:15:10 >To:arslist@ARSLIST.ORG >Subject: Re: Competitors to Remedy ARS? > > >How much data would you expect the system to hold? > >Chris Pickering > >-Original Message- >From: Action Request System d
Re: Competitors to Remedy ARS?
Hi, One question that we must ask ourselves here. Is it allowed to use an unlicensed version of the AR System? At one time, for one version, it was allowed to use it this way. But I do think it is a breach of the license agreement to do so now. Best Regards - Misi, RRR AB, http://www.rrr.se Products from RRR Scandinavia: * RRR|License - Not enough Remedy licenses? Save money by optimizing. * RRR|Log - Performance issues or elusive bugs? Analyze your Remedy logs. * RRR|Translator - Manage and automate your language translations. Find these products, and many free tools and utilities, at http://rrr.se. > It's 2000 current records in the table > > -Original Message- > From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Watson, Benjamin A. > Sent: Thursday, October 04, 2007 9:19 AM > To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG > Subject: Re: Competitors to Remedy ARS? > > I could see an unlicensed server using e-mail approach the 2000 record > limit > on the e-mail form fairly easily. > > I suppose you could delete old records? I guess that begs refinement of > the > max record limit on an unlicensed Remedy install. > > Is it 2000 records at any given time, or 2000 records for the entire > history/life of the form? > > Ben > > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On > Behalf > Of L. J. Head > Sent: Thursday, October 04, 2007 9:59 AM > To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG > Subject: Re: Competitors to Remedy ARS? > > Unlicensed server can do Email > > -Original Message- > From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Alec Alec > Sent: Thursday, October 04, 2007 8:46 AM > To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG > Subject: Re: Competitors to Remedy ARS? > > I require the email functionality. > > > Sent via BlackBerry from T-Mobile > > -Original Message- > From: "Opela, Gary L Contr OC-ALC/ITMA" > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > Date: Thu, 4 Oct 2007 09:36:35 > To:arslist@ARSLIST.ORG > Subject: Re: Competitors to Remedy ARS? > > > Just install an unlicensed version of remedy. I think it allows you up to > 1000 records creation, and 3 user licenses. This is good practice too to > hone your remedy development skills, so you benefit in your job as well. > > Now, if you are deploying/selling this application to end users, I'm not > sure how that would play in with remedy's licensing model. So, if you are > not going to be the only one using it, then this might not work. > > Thanks, > > > Gary Opela, Jr > > Sr. Remedy Developer > > Leader Communications, Inc. > > 405 736 3211 > > > -----Original Message- > From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Cupp, Michael E CTR USAF > AFRL/RYOD > Sent: Thursday, October 04, 2007 9:17 AM > To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG > Subject: Re: Competitors to Remedy ARS? > > Sorry for jumping in there....this seems interesting to me as well. > :) > > -Original Message- > From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Timothy Powell > Sent: Thursday, October 04, 2007 10:09 AM > To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG > Subject: Re: Competitors to Remedy ARS? > > How many users? > > -Original Message- > From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Alec Alec > Sent: Thursday, October 04, 2007 9:12 AM > To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG > Subject: Re: Competitors to Remedy ARS? > > Largest form would be less than 2500 row, probably less than 1000 > > > Sent via BlackBerry from T-Mobile > > -Original Message- > From: "Pickering, Christopher" > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > Date: Thu, 4 Oct 2007 08:15:10 > To:arslist@ARSLIST.ORG > Subject: Re: Competitors to Remedy ARS? > > > How much data would you expect the system to hold? > > Chris Pickering > > -Original Message- > From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Alec Alec > Sent: Wednesday, October 03, 2007 5:58 PM > To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG > Subject: Competitors to Remedy ARS? > > Are there any less expensive, freeware, open source, etc. competitors to > the > Remedy ARS product? > > I have a small home project that I would like to complete, but can't > afford ARS for home. I am looking only for the engine, no attached HD > app, etc. > > > Thanks! > Alec > > Sent via BlackBerry from T-Mobile > > ___
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I have customers that make that mistake daily -Original Message- From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Alec Alec Sent: Thursday, October 04, 2007 9:44 AM To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG Subject: Re: Competitors to Remedy ARS? I wand the remedy rapid application developement functionality, not the itsm module. Many people confuse remedy with ITSM, its like confusing windows with ms office. Sent via BlackBerry from T-Mobile -Original Message- From: "Pierson, Shawn" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Date: Thu, 4 Oct 2007 09:48:11 To:arslist@ARSLIST.ORG Subject: Re: Competitors to Remedy ARS? Perhaps you should give more requirements. You mentioned that you want something like ARS, but don't really care about ITSM or any specific type of module. It sounds like you're wanting to build custom database driven applications, right? If so, rather than looking at something like Remedy, you'd be better off finding a traditional development language that has a good interface to build forms and back end workflow. I don't know of any as easy as Remedy, but .NET would be a good option for something similar. Shawn Pierson -Original Message- From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Alec Alec Sent: Thursday, October 04, 2007 9:46 AM To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG Subject: Re: Competitors to Remedy ARS? I require the email functionality. Sent via BlackBerry from T-Mobile -Original Message- From: "Opela, Gary L Contr OC-ALC/ITMA" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Date: Thu, 4 Oct 2007 09:36:35 To:arslist@ARSLIST.ORG Subject: Re: Competitors to Remedy ARS? Just install an unlicensed version of remedy. I think it allows you up to 1000 records creation, and 3 user licenses. This is good practice too to hone your remedy development skills, so you benefit in your job as well. Now, if you are deploying/selling this application to end users, I'm not sure how that would play in with remedy's licensing model. So, if you are not going to be the only one using it, then this might not work. Thanks, Gary Opela, Jr Sr. Remedy Developer Leader Communications, Inc. 405 736 3211 -Original Message- From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Cupp, Michael E CTR USAF AFRL/RYOD Sent: Thursday, October 04, 2007 9:17 AM To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG Subject: Re: Competitors to Remedy ARS? Sorry for jumping in therethis seems interesting to me as well. :) -Original Message- From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Timothy Powell Sent: Thursday, October 04, 2007 10:09 AM To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG Subject: Re: Competitors to Remedy ARS? How many users? -Original Message- From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Alec Alec Sent: Thursday, October 04, 2007 9:12 AM To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG Subject: Re: Competitors to Remedy ARS? Largest form would be less than 2500 row, probably less than 1000 Sent via BlackBerry from T-Mobile -Original Message- From: "Pickering, Christopher" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Date: Thu, 4 Oct 2007 08:15:10 To:arslist@ARSLIST.ORG Subject: Re: Competitors to Remedy ARS? How much data would you expect the system to hold? Chris Pickering -Original Message- From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Alec Alec Sent: Wednesday, October 03, 2007 5:58 PM To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG Subject: Competitors to Remedy ARS? Are there any less expensive, freeware, open source, etc. competitors to the Remedy ARS product? I have a small home project that I would like to complete, but can't afford ARS for home. I am looking only for the engine, no attached HD app, etc. Thanks! Alec Sent via BlackBerry from T-Mobile ___ UNSUBSCRIBE or access ARSlist Archives at www.arslist.org ARSlist:"Where the Answers Are" ___ UNSUBSCRIBE or access ARSlist Archives at www.arslist.org ARSlist:"Where the Answers Are" ___ UNSUBSCRIBE or access ARSlist Archives at www.arslist.org ARSlist:"Where the Answers Are" ___ UNSUBSCRIBE or access ARSlist Archives at www.arslist.org ARSlist:"Where the Answers Are" ___ UNSUBSCRIBE or access ARSlist Archives at www.arslist.org ARSlist:"Where the Answers Are" Private and c
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It's 2000 current records in the table -Original Message- From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Watson, Benjamin A. Sent: Thursday, October 04, 2007 9:19 AM To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG Subject: Re: Competitors to Remedy ARS? I could see an unlicensed server using e-mail approach the 2000 record limit on the e-mail form fairly easily. I suppose you could delete old records? I guess that begs refinement of the max record limit on an unlicensed Remedy install. Is it 2000 records at any given time, or 2000 records for the entire history/life of the form? Ben -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of L. J. Head Sent: Thursday, October 04, 2007 9:59 AM To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG Subject: Re: Competitors to Remedy ARS? Unlicensed server can do Email -Original Message- From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Alec Alec Sent: Thursday, October 04, 2007 8:46 AM To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG Subject: Re: Competitors to Remedy ARS? I require the email functionality. Sent via BlackBerry from T-Mobile -Original Message- From: "Opela, Gary L Contr OC-ALC/ITMA" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Date: Thu, 4 Oct 2007 09:36:35 To:arslist@ARSLIST.ORG Subject: Re: Competitors to Remedy ARS? Just install an unlicensed version of remedy. I think it allows you up to 1000 records creation, and 3 user licenses. This is good practice too to hone your remedy development skills, so you benefit in your job as well. Now, if you are deploying/selling this application to end users, I'm not sure how that would play in with remedy's licensing model. So, if you are not going to be the only one using it, then this might not work. Thanks, Gary Opela, Jr Sr. Remedy Developer Leader Communications, Inc. 405 736 3211 -Original Message- From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Cupp, Michael E CTR USAF AFRL/RYOD Sent: Thursday, October 04, 2007 9:17 AM To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG Subject: Re: Competitors to Remedy ARS? Sorry for jumping in therethis seems interesting to me as well. :) -Original Message- From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Timothy Powell Sent: Thursday, October 04, 2007 10:09 AM To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG Subject: Re: Competitors to Remedy ARS? How many users? -Original Message- From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Alec Alec Sent: Thursday, October 04, 2007 9:12 AM To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG Subject: Re: Competitors to Remedy ARS? Largest form would be less than 2500 row, probably less than 1000 Sent via BlackBerry from T-Mobile -Original Message- From: "Pickering, Christopher" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Date: Thu, 4 Oct 2007 08:15:10 To:arslist@ARSLIST.ORG Subject: Re: Competitors to Remedy ARS? How much data would you expect the system to hold? Chris Pickering -Original Message- From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Alec Alec Sent: Wednesday, October 03, 2007 5:58 PM To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG Subject: Competitors to Remedy ARS? Are there any less expensive, freeware, open source, etc. competitors to the Remedy ARS product? I have a small home project that I would like to complete, but can't afford ARS for home. I am looking only for the engine, no attached HD app, etc. Thanks! Alec Sent via BlackBerry from T-Mobile ___ UNSUBSCRIBE or access ARSlist Archives at www.arslist.org ARSlist:"Where the Answers Are" ___ UNSUBSCRIBE or access ARSlist Archives at www.arslist.org ARSlist:"Where the Answers Are" ___ UNSUBSCRIBE or access ARSlist Archives at www.arslist.org ARSlist:"Where the Answers Are" ___ UNSUBSCRIBE or access ARSlist Archives at www.arslist.org ARSlist:"Where the Answers Are" ___ UNSUBSCRIBE or access ARSlist Archives at www.arslist.org ARSlist:"Where the Answers Are" ___ UNSUBSCRIBE or access ARSlist Archives at www.arslist.org ARSlist:"Where the Answers Are" ___ UNSUBSCRIBE or access ARSlist Archives at www.arslist.org ARSlist:"Where the Answers Are" ___
Re: Competitors to Remedy ARS?
SugarCRM may be an option. Some people re-sell it, but it can also be found for a free download. Rick Ponzo Alec Alec wrote: Is HotBasic open source, or have an affordable licensing model? Sent via BlackBerry from T-Mobile -Original Message- From: Kaiser Norm E CIV USAF 96 CS/SCCE <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Date: Thu, 4 Oct 2007 09:57:00 To:arslist@ARSLIST.ORG Subject: Re: Competitors to Remedy ARS? Or HotBasic. With HotBasic you type this: CREATE newForm AS FORM END CREATE newForm.SHOWMODAL and then hit the F5 key and voila! A Windows form appears on the screen. Then do this: CREATE newForm AS FORM CREATE newEditField AS EDIT END CREATE END CREATE newForm.SHOWMODAL and your form now appears with a character field on it. Very, very easy. Much easier than .Net, yet with comparable capabilities. Norm -Original Message- From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Pierson, Shawn Sent: Thursday, October 04, 2007 9:48 AM To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG Subject: Re: Competitors to Remedy ARS? Perhaps you should give more requirements. You mentioned that you want something like ARS, but don't really care about ITSM or any specific type of module. It sounds like you're wanting to build custom database driven applications, right? If so, rather than looking at something like Remedy, you'd be better off finding a traditional development language that has a good interface to build forms and back end workflow. I don't know of any as easy as Remedy, but .NET would be a good option for something similar. Shawn Pierson -Original Message- From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Alec Alec Sent: Thursday, October 04, 2007 9:46 AM To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG Subject: Re: Competitors to Remedy ARS? I require the email functionality. Sent via BlackBerry from T-Mobile -Original Message- From: "Opela, Gary L Contr OC-ALC/ITMA" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Date: Thu, 4 Oct 2007 09:36:35 To:arslist@ARSLIST.ORG Subject: Re: Competitors to Remedy ARS? Just install an unlicensed version of remedy. I think it allows you up to 1000 records creation, and 3 user licenses. This is good practice too to hone your remedy development skills, so you benefit in your job as well. Now, if you are deploying/selling this application to end users, I'm not sure how that would play in with remedy's licensing model. So, if you are not going to be the only one using it, then this might not work. Thanks, Gary Opela, Jr Sr. Remedy Developer Leader Communications, Inc. 405 736 3211 -Original Message- From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Cupp, Michael E CTR USAF AFRL/RYOD Sent: Thursday, October 04, 2007 9:17 AM To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG Subject: Re: Competitors to Remedy ARS? Sorry for jumping in therethis seems interesting to me as well. :) -Original Message- From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Timothy Powell Sent: Thursday, October 04, 2007 10:09 AM To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG Subject: Re: Competitors to Remedy ARS? How many users? -Original Message- From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Alec Alec Sent: Thursday, October 04, 2007 9:12 AM To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG Subject: Re: Competitors to Remedy ARS? Largest form would be less than 2500 row, probably less than 1000 Sent via BlackBerry from T-Mobile -Original Message- From: "Pickering, Christopher" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Date: Thu, 4 Oct 2007 08:15:10 To:arslist@ARSLIST.ORG Subject: Re: Competitors to Remedy ARS? How much data would you expect the system to hold? Chris Pickering -Original Message- From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Alec Alec Sent: Wednesday, October 03, 2007 5:58 PM To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG Subject: Competitors to Remedy ARS? Are there any less expensive, freeware, open source, etc. competitors to the Remedy ARS product? I have a small home project that I would like to complete, but can't afford ARS for home. I am looking only for the engine, no attached HD app, etc. Thanks! Alec Sent via BlackBerry from T-Mobile ___ UNSUBSCRIBE or access ARSlist Archives at www.arslist.org ARSlist:"Where the Answers Are" ___ UNSUBSCRIBE or access ARSlist Archives at www.arslist.org ARSlist:"Where the Answers Are" ___
Re: Competitors to Remedy ARS?
It's not open source but is extremely affordable--$69. And you don't need to license any applications you develop. It's a one-time fee of $69 with upgrades included. And the support is outstanding. They have a Yahoo tech group set up, and if you post a question, typically the author of the software answers you first. -Original Message- From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Alec Alec Sent: Thursday, October 04, 2007 10:45 AM To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG Subject: Re: Competitors to Remedy ARS? Is HotBasic open source, or have an affordable licensing model? Sent via BlackBerry from T-Mobile -Original Message- From: Kaiser Norm E CIV USAF 96 CS/SCCE <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Date: Thu, 4 Oct 2007 09:57:00 To:arslist@ARSLIST.ORG Subject: Re: Competitors to Remedy ARS? Or HotBasic. With HotBasic you type this: CREATE newForm AS FORM END CREATE newForm.SHOWMODAL and then hit the F5 key and voila! A Windows form appears on the screen. Then do this: CREATE newForm AS FORM CREATE newEditField AS EDIT END CREATE END CREATE newForm.SHOWMODAL and your form now appears with a character field on it. Very, very easy. Much easier than .Net, yet with comparable capabilities. Norm -Original Message- From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Pierson, Shawn Sent: Thursday, October 04, 2007 9:48 AM To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG Subject: Re: Competitors to Remedy ARS? Perhaps you should give more requirements. You mentioned that you want something like ARS, but don't really care about ITSM or any specific type of module. It sounds like you're wanting to build custom database driven applications, right? If so, rather than looking at something like Remedy, you'd be better off finding a traditional development language that has a good interface to build forms and back end workflow. I don't know of any as easy as Remedy, but .NET would be a good option for something similar. Shawn Pierson -Original Message- From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Alec Alec Sent: Thursday, October 04, 2007 9:46 AM To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG Subject: Re: Competitors to Remedy ARS? I require the email functionality. Sent via BlackBerry from T-Mobile -Original Message- From: "Opela, Gary L Contr OC-ALC/ITMA" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Date: Thu, 4 Oct 2007 09:36:35 To:arslist@ARSLIST.ORG Subject: Re: Competitors to Remedy ARS? Just install an unlicensed version of remedy. I think it allows you up to 1000 records creation, and 3 user licenses. This is good practice too to hone your remedy development skills, so you benefit in your job as well. Now, if you are deploying/selling this application to end users, I'm not sure how that would play in with remedy's licensing model. So, if you are not going to be the only one using it, then this might not work. Thanks, Gary Opela, Jr Sr. Remedy Developer Leader Communications, Inc. 405 736 3211 -Original Message- From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Cupp, Michael E CTR USAF AFRL/RYOD Sent: Thursday, October 04, 2007 9:17 AM To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG Subject: Re: Competitors to Remedy ARS? Sorry for jumping in therethis seems interesting to me as well. :) -Original Message- From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Timothy Powell Sent: Thursday, October 04, 2007 10:09 AM To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG Subject: Re: Competitors to Remedy ARS? How many users? -Original Message- From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Alec Alec Sent: Thursday, October 04, 2007 9:12 AM To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG Subject: Re: Competitors to Remedy ARS? Largest form would be less than 2500 row, probably less than 1000 Sent via BlackBerry from T-Mobile -Original Message- From: "Pickering, Christopher" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Date: Thu, 4 Oct 2007 08:15:10 To:arslist@ARSLIST.ORG Subject: Re: Competitors to Remedy ARS? How much data would you expect the system to hold? Chris Pickering -Original Message- From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Alec Alec Sent: Wednesday, October 03, 2007 5:58 PM To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG Subject: Competitors to Remedy ARS? Are there any less expensive, freeware, open source, etc. competitors to the Remedy ARS product? I have a small home project that I would like to complete, but can't afford ARS for home. I am looking only for the engine, no attached HD app, etc. Thanks! Alec Sent via BlackBerry from T-Mobile _
Re: Competitors to Remedy ARS? 2000 record limit on unlicensed servers
I wonder how long it will be before Doug comes in and clarifies :) I am sure you are correct in what you are saying. He never stated the intent of usage of his application though. Thanks, Gary Opela, Jr Sr. Remedy Developer Leader Communications, Inc. 405 736 3211 -Original Message- From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Rick Ponzo Sent: Thursday, October 04, 2007 10:42 AM To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG Subject: Re: Competitors to Remedy ARS? 2000 record limit on unlicensed servers There may be another issue. I've honestly never read the whole license agreement, but I'm sure an unlicensed server is not supposed to be used for anything that may be considered a "production" environment. Rick Ponzo Ben Chernys wrote: > It's a maximum of 2000 at any given time. Insertion is not permitted into a form if that form has 2000 or more records. Deletion of records will permit insertion once the current total number of records is reduced to under 2000. > > Note that I do not know yet if 7.1 has changed any of this. Up until 7.0.x this was always the case. The Administrator's related workflow always failed on unlicensed servers because of this limit. > > 3 fixed licenses, 0 floating. No ARS app licenses. > > Ben > > >> - --- Original Message --- - >> From: "Watson, Benjamin A." >> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >> To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG >> Sent: Thu, 4 Oct 2007 08:19:06 >> >> I could see an unlicensed server using e-mail >> approach the 2000 record >> limit on the e-mail form fairly easily. >> >> I suppose you could delete old records? I guess >> that begs refinement of >> the max record limit on an unlicensed Remedy >> install. >> >> Is it 2000 records at any given time, or 2000 >> records for the entire >> history/life of the form? >> >> Ben >> >> -----Original Message- >> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On >> Behalf Of L. J. Head >> Sent: Thursday, October 04, 2007 9:59 AM >> To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG >> Subject: Re: Competitors to Remedy ARS? >> >> Unlicensed server can do Email >> >> -Original Message- >> From: Action Request System discussion >> list(ARSList) >> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Alec Alec >> Sent: Thursday, October 04, 2007 8:46 AM >> To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG >> Subject: Re: Competitors to Remedy ARS? >> >> I require the email functionality. >> >> >> Sent via BlackBerry from T-Mobile >> >> -Original Message- >> From: "Opela, Gary L Contr OC-ALC/ITMA" >> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >> >> Date: Thu, 4 Oct 2007 09:36:35 >> To:arslist@ARSLIST.ORG >> Subject: Re: Competitors to Remedy ARS? >> >> >> Just install an unlicensed version of remedy. I >> think it allows you up >> to >> 1000 records creation, and 3 user licenses. This is >> good practice too to >> hone your remedy development skills, so you benefit >> in your job as well. >> >> Now, if you are deploying/selling this application >> to end users, I'm not >> sure how that would play in with remedy's licensing >> model. So, if you >> are >> not going to be the only one using it, then this >> might not work. >> >> Thanks, >> >> >> Gary Opela, Jr >> >> Sr. Remedy Developer >> >> Leader Communications, Inc. >> >> 405 736 3211 >> >> >> -Original Message- >> From: Action Request System discussion >> list(ARSList) >> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Cupp, >> Michael E CTR USAF >> AFRL/RYOD >> Sent: Thursday, October 04, 2007 9:17 AM >> To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG >> Subject: Re: Competitors to Remedy ARS? >> >> Sorry for jumping in therethis seems >> interesting to me as well. >> :) >> >> -Original Message- >> From: Action Request System discussion >> list(ARSList) >> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Timothy >> Powell >> Sent: Thursday, October 04, 2007 10:09 AM >> To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG >> Subject: Re: Competitors to Remedy ARS? >> >> How many users? >> >> -Original Message- >> From: Action Request System discussion >> list(ARSList) >> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Alec Alec >> Sent: Thursday, October 04, 2007 9:12 AM >> To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG >> Subject:
Re: Competitors to Remedy ARS? 2000 record limit on unlicensed servers
There may be another issue. I've honestly never read the whole license agreement, but I'm sure an unlicensed server is not supposed to be used for anything that may be considered a "production" environment. Rick Ponzo Ben Chernys wrote: It's a maximum of 2000 at any given time. Insertion is not permitted into a form if that form has 2000 or more records. Deletion of records will permit insertion once the current total number of records is reduced to under 2000. Note that I do not know yet if 7.1 has changed any of this. Up until 7.0.x this was always the case. The Administrator's related workflow always failed on unlicensed servers because of this limit. 3 fixed licenses, 0 floating. No ARS app licenses. Ben - --- Original Message --- - From: "Watson, Benjamin A." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To:arslist@ARSLIST.ORG Sent: Thu, 4 Oct 2007 08:19:06 I could see an unlicensed server using e-mail approach the 2000 record limit on the e-mail form fairly easily. I suppose you could delete old records? I guess that begs refinement of the max record limit on an unlicensed Remedy install. Is it 2000 records at any given time, or 2000 records for the entire history/life of the form? Ben -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of L. J. Head Sent: Thursday, October 04, 2007 9:59 AM To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG Subject: Re: Competitors to Remedy ARS? Unlicensed server can do Email -Original Message- From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Alec Alec Sent: Thursday, October 04, 2007 8:46 AM To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG Subject: Re: Competitors to Remedy ARS? I require the email functionality. Sent via BlackBerry from T-Mobile -Original Message- From: "Opela, Gary L Contr OC-ALC/ITMA" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Date: Thu, 4 Oct 2007 09:36:35 To:arslist@ARSLIST.ORG Subject: Re: Competitors to Remedy ARS? Just install an unlicensed version of remedy. I think it allows you up to 1000 records creation, and 3 user licenses. This is good practice too to hone your remedy development skills, so you benefit in your job as well. Now, if you are deploying/selling this application to end users, I'm not sure how that would play in with remedy's licensing model. So, if you are not going to be the only one using it, then this might not work. Thanks, Gary Opela, Jr Sr. Remedy Developer Leader Communications, Inc. 405 736 3211 -Original Message- From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Cupp, Michael E CTR USAF AFRL/RYOD Sent: Thursday, October 04, 2007 9:17 AM To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG Subject: Re: Competitors to Remedy ARS? Sorry for jumping in therethis seems interesting to me as well. :) -Original Message- From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Timothy Powell Sent: Thursday, October 04, 2007 10:09 AM To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG Subject: Re: Competitors to Remedy ARS? How many users? -Original Message- From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Alec Alec Sent: Thursday, October 04, 2007 9:12 AM To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG Subject: Re: Competitors to Remedy ARS? Largest form would be less than 2500 row, probably less than 1000 Sent via BlackBerry from T-Mobile -Original Message- From: "Pickering, Christopher" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Date: Thu, 4 Oct 2007 08:15:10 To:arslist@ARSLIST.ORG Subject: Re: Competitors to Remedy ARS? How much data would you expect the system to hold? Chris Pickering -Original Message- From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Alec Alec Sent: Wednesday, October 03, 2007 5:58 PM To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG Subject: Competitors to Remedy ARS? Are there any less expensive, freeware, open source, etc. competitors to the Remedy ARS product? I have a small home project that I would like to complete, but can't afford ARS for home.I am looking only for the engine, no attached HD app, etc. Thanks! Alec Sent via BlackBerry from T-Mobile ___ _ ___ UNSUBSCRIBE or access ARSlist Archives at www.arslist.org ARSlist:"Where the Answers Are" ___ _ ___ UNSUBSCRIBE or access ARSlist Archives at www.arslist.org ARSlist:"Where the Answers Are" ___ _ ___ UNSUBSCRIBE or access ARSlist Archives at www.arslist.org ARSlist:"Where the Answers Are" ___
Re: Competitors to Remedy ARS?
Is HotBasic open source, or have an affordable licensing model? Sent via BlackBerry from T-Mobile -Original Message- From: Kaiser Norm E CIV USAF 96 CS/SCCE <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Date: Thu, 4 Oct 2007 09:57:00 To:arslist@ARSLIST.ORG Subject: Re: Competitors to Remedy ARS? Or HotBasic. With HotBasic you type this: CREATE newForm AS FORM END CREATE newForm.SHOWMODAL and then hit the F5 key and voila! A Windows form appears on the screen. Then do this: CREATE newForm AS FORM CREATE newEditField AS EDIT END CREATE END CREATE newForm.SHOWMODAL and your form now appears with a character field on it. Very, very easy. Much easier than .Net, yet with comparable capabilities. Norm -Original Message- From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Pierson, Shawn Sent: Thursday, October 04, 2007 9:48 AM To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG Subject: Re: Competitors to Remedy ARS? Perhaps you should give more requirements. You mentioned that you want something like ARS, but don't really care about ITSM or any specific type of module. It sounds like you're wanting to build custom database driven applications, right? If so, rather than looking at something like Remedy, you'd be better off finding a traditional development language that has a good interface to build forms and back end workflow. I don't know of any as easy as Remedy, but .NET would be a good option for something similar. Shawn Pierson -Original Message- From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Alec Alec Sent: Thursday, October 04, 2007 9:46 AM To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG Subject: Re: Competitors to Remedy ARS? I require the email functionality. Sent via BlackBerry from T-Mobile -Original Message- From: "Opela, Gary L Contr OC-ALC/ITMA" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Date: Thu, 4 Oct 2007 09:36:35 To:arslist@ARSLIST.ORG Subject: Re: Competitors to Remedy ARS? Just install an unlicensed version of remedy. I think it allows you up to 1000 records creation, and 3 user licenses. This is good practice too to hone your remedy development skills, so you benefit in your job as well. Now, if you are deploying/selling this application to end users, I'm not sure how that would play in with remedy's licensing model. So, if you are not going to be the only one using it, then this might not work. Thanks, Gary Opela, Jr Sr. Remedy Developer Leader Communications, Inc. 405 736 3211 -Original Message- From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Cupp, Michael E CTR USAF AFRL/RYOD Sent: Thursday, October 04, 2007 9:17 AM To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG Subject: Re: Competitors to Remedy ARS? Sorry for jumping in therethis seems interesting to me as well. :) -Original Message- From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Timothy Powell Sent: Thursday, October 04, 2007 10:09 AM To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG Subject: Re: Competitors to Remedy ARS? How many users? -Original Message- From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Alec Alec Sent: Thursday, October 04, 2007 9:12 AM To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG Subject: Re: Competitors to Remedy ARS? Largest form would be less than 2500 row, probably less than 1000 Sent via BlackBerry from T-Mobile -Original Message- From: "Pickering, Christopher" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Date: Thu, 4 Oct 2007 08:15:10 To:arslist@ARSLIST.ORG Subject: Re: Competitors to Remedy ARS? How much data would you expect the system to hold? Chris Pickering -Original Message- From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Alec Alec Sent: Wednesday, October 03, 2007 5:58 PM To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG Subject: Competitors to Remedy ARS? Are there any less expensive, freeware, open source, etc. competitors to the Remedy ARS product? I have a small home project that I would like to complete, but can't afford ARS for home. I am looking only for the engine, no attached HD app, etc. Thanks! Alec Sent via BlackBerry from T-Mobile ___ UNSUBSCRIBE or access ARSlist Archives at www.arslist.org ARSlist:"Where the Answers Are" ___ UNSUBSCRIBE or access ARSlist Archives at www.arslist.org ARSlist:"Where the Answers Are" ___ UNSUBSCRIBE or access ARSlist Archives at www.arslist.org ARSlist:"Where the Answers Are" __
Re: Competitors to Remedy ARS?
I wand the remedy rapid application developement functionality, not the itsm module. Many people confuse remedy with ITSM, its like confusing windows with ms office. Sent via BlackBerry from T-Mobile -Original Message- From: "Pierson, Shawn" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Date: Thu, 4 Oct 2007 09:48:11 To:arslist@ARSLIST.ORG Subject: Re: Competitors to Remedy ARS? Perhaps you should give more requirements. You mentioned that you want something like ARS, but don't really care about ITSM or any specific type of module. It sounds like you're wanting to build custom database driven applications, right? If so, rather than looking at something like Remedy, you'd be better off finding a traditional development language that has a good interface to build forms and back end workflow. I don't know of any as easy as Remedy, but .NET would be a good option for something similar. Shawn Pierson -Original Message- From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Alec Alec Sent: Thursday, October 04, 2007 9:46 AM To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG Subject: Re: Competitors to Remedy ARS? I require the email functionality. Sent via BlackBerry from T-Mobile -Original Message- From: "Opela, Gary L Contr OC-ALC/ITMA" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Date: Thu, 4 Oct 2007 09:36:35 To:arslist@ARSLIST.ORG Subject: Re: Competitors to Remedy ARS? Just install an unlicensed version of remedy. I think it allows you up to 1000 records creation, and 3 user licenses. This is good practice too to hone your remedy development skills, so you benefit in your job as well. Now, if you are deploying/selling this application to end users, I'm not sure how that would play in with remedy's licensing model. So, if you are not going to be the only one using it, then this might not work. Thanks, Gary Opela, Jr Sr. Remedy Developer Leader Communications, Inc. 405 736 3211 -Original Message- From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Cupp, Michael E CTR USAF AFRL/RYOD Sent: Thursday, October 04, 2007 9:17 AM To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG Subject: Re: Competitors to Remedy ARS? Sorry for jumping in therethis seems interesting to me as well. :) -Original Message- From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Timothy Powell Sent: Thursday, October 04, 2007 10:09 AM To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG Subject: Re: Competitors to Remedy ARS? How many users? -Original Message- From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Alec Alec Sent: Thursday, October 04, 2007 9:12 AM To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG Subject: Re: Competitors to Remedy ARS? Largest form would be less than 2500 row, probably less than 1000 Sent via BlackBerry from T-Mobile -Original Message- From: "Pickering, Christopher" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Date: Thu, 4 Oct 2007 08:15:10 To:arslist@ARSLIST.ORG Subject: Re: Competitors to Remedy ARS? How much data would you expect the system to hold? Chris Pickering -Original Message- From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Alec Alec Sent: Wednesday, October 03, 2007 5:58 PM To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG Subject: Competitors to Remedy ARS? Are there any less expensive, freeware, open source, etc. competitors to the Remedy ARS product? I have a small home project that I would like to complete, but can't afford ARS for home. I am looking only for the engine, no attached HD app, etc. Thanks! Alec Sent via BlackBerry from T-Mobile ___ UNSUBSCRIBE or access ARSlist Archives at www.arslist.org ARSlist:"Where the Answers Are" ___ UNSUBSCRIBE or access ARSlist Archives at www.arslist.org ARSlist:"Where the Answers Are" ___ UNSUBSCRIBE or access ARSlist Archives at www.arslist.org ARSlist:"Where the Answers Are" ___ UNSUBSCRIBE or access ARSlist Archives at www.arslist.org ARSlist:"Where the Answers Are" ___ UNSUBSCRIBE or access ARSlist Archives at www.arslist.org ARSlist:"Where the Answers Are" Private and confidential as detailed http://www.sug.com/disclaimers/default.htm#Mail";>here. If you cannot access hyperlink, please e-mail sender. ___ UNSUBSCRIBE or access ARSlist Archives at www.arslist.org ARSlist:"Where the Answers Are"
Re: Competitors to Remedy ARS? 2000 record limit on unlicensed servers
It's a maximum of 2000 at any given time. Insertion is not permitted into a form if that form has 2000 or more records. Deletion of records will permit insertion once the current total number of records is reduced to under 2000. Note that I do not know yet if 7.1 has changed any of this. Up until 7.0.x this was always the case. The Administrator's related workflow always failed on unlicensed servers because of this limit. 3 fixed licenses, 0 floating. No ARS app licenses. Ben >- --- Original Message --- - >From: "Watson, Benjamin A." ><[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG >Sent: Thu, 4 Oct 2007 08:19:06 > >I could see an unlicensed server using e-mail >approach the 2000 record >limit on the e-mail form fairly easily. > >I suppose you could delete old records? I guess >that begs refinement of >the max record limit on an unlicensed Remedy >install. > >Is it 2000 records at any given time, or 2000 >records for the entire >history/life of the form? > >Ben > >-Original Message- >From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On >Behalf Of L. J. Head >Sent: Thursday, October 04, 2007 9:59 AM >To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG >Subject: Re: Competitors to Remedy ARS? > >Unlicensed server can do Email > >-Original Message- >From: Action Request System discussion >list(ARSList) >[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Alec Alec >Sent: Thursday, October 04, 2007 8:46 AM >To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG >Subject: Re: Competitors to Remedy ARS? > >I require the email functionality. > > >Sent via BlackBerry from T-Mobile > >-Original Message- >From: "Opela, Gary L Contr OC-ALC/ITMA" ><[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >Date: Thu, 4 Oct 2007 09:36:35 >To:arslist@ARSLIST.ORG >Subject: Re: Competitors to Remedy ARS? > > >Just install an unlicensed version of remedy. I >think it allows you up >to >1000 records creation, and 3 user licenses. This is >good practice too to >hone your remedy development skills, so you benefit >in your job as well. > >Now, if you are deploying/selling this application >to end users, I'm not >sure how that would play in with remedy's licensing >model. So, if you >are >not going to be the only one using it, then this >might not work. > >Thanks, > > >Gary Opela, Jr > >Sr. Remedy Developer > >Leader Communications, Inc. > >405 736 3211 > > >-Original Message- >From: Action Request System discussion >list(ARSList) >[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Cupp, >Michael E CTR USAF >AFRL/RYOD >Sent: Thursday, October 04, 2007 9:17 AM >To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG >Subject: Re: Competitors to Remedy ARS? > >Sorry for jumping in therethis seems >interesting to me as well. >:) > >-Original Message- >From: Action Request System discussion >list(ARSList) >[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Timothy >Powell >Sent: Thursday, October 04, 2007 10:09 AM >To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG >Subject: Re: Competitors to Remedy ARS? > >How many users? > >-Original Message- >From: Action Request System discussion >list(ARSList) >[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Alec Alec >Sent: Thursday, October 04, 2007 9:12 AM >To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG >Subject: Re: Competitors to Remedy ARS? > >Largest form would be less than 2500 row, probably >less than 1000 > > >Sent via BlackBerry from T-Mobile > >-Original Message- >From: "Pickering, Christopher" > ><[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >Date: Thu, 4 Oct 2007 08:15:10 >To:arslist@ARSLIST.ORG >Subject: Re: Competitors to Remedy ARS? > > >How much data would you expect the system to hold? > >Chris Pickering > >-Original Message- >From: Action Request System discussion >list(ARSList) >[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Alec Alec >Sent: Wednesday, October 03, 2007 5:58 PM >To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG >Subject: Competitors to Remedy ARS? > >Are there any less expensive, freeware, open >source, etc. competitors to >the >Remedy ARS product? > >I have a small home project that I would like to >complete, but can't >afford ARS for home. I am looking only for the >engine, no attached HD >app, etc. > > >Thanks! >Alec > >Sent via BlackBerry from T-Mobile > >___ >_ >___ >UNSUBSCRIBE or access ARSlist Archives at >www.arslist.org ARSlist:&quo
Re: Competitors to Remedy ARS?
I could see an unlicensed server using e-mail approach the 2000 record limit on the e-mail form fairly easily. I suppose you could delete old records? I guess that begs refinement of the max record limit on an unlicensed Remedy install. Is it 2000 records at any given time, or 2000 records for the entire history/life of the form? Ben -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of L. J. Head Sent: Thursday, October 04, 2007 9:59 AM To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG Subject: Re: Competitors to Remedy ARS? Unlicensed server can do Email -Original Message- From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Alec Alec Sent: Thursday, October 04, 2007 8:46 AM To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG Subject: Re: Competitors to Remedy ARS? I require the email functionality. Sent via BlackBerry from T-Mobile -Original Message- From: "Opela, Gary L Contr OC-ALC/ITMA" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Date: Thu, 4 Oct 2007 09:36:35 To:arslist@ARSLIST.ORG Subject: Re: Competitors to Remedy ARS? Just install an unlicensed version of remedy. I think it allows you up to 1000 records creation, and 3 user licenses. This is good practice too to hone your remedy development skills, so you benefit in your job as well. Now, if you are deploying/selling this application to end users, I'm not sure how that would play in with remedy's licensing model. So, if you are not going to be the only one using it, then this might not work. Thanks, Gary Opela, Jr Sr. Remedy Developer Leader Communications, Inc. 405 736 3211 -Original Message- From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Cupp, Michael E CTR USAF AFRL/RYOD Sent: Thursday, October 04, 2007 9:17 AM To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG Subject: Re: Competitors to Remedy ARS? Sorry for jumping in therethis seems interesting to me as well. :) -Original Message- From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Timothy Powell Sent: Thursday, October 04, 2007 10:09 AM To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG Subject: Re: Competitors to Remedy ARS? How many users? -Original Message- From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Alec Alec Sent: Thursday, October 04, 2007 9:12 AM To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG Subject: Re: Competitors to Remedy ARS? Largest form would be less than 2500 row, probably less than 1000 Sent via BlackBerry from T-Mobile -Original Message- From: "Pickering, Christopher" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Date: Thu, 4 Oct 2007 08:15:10 To:arslist@ARSLIST.ORG Subject: Re: Competitors to Remedy ARS? How much data would you expect the system to hold? Chris Pickering -Original Message- From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Alec Alec Sent: Wednesday, October 03, 2007 5:58 PM To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG Subject: Competitors to Remedy ARS? Are there any less expensive, freeware, open source, etc. competitors to the Remedy ARS product? I have a small home project that I would like to complete, but can't afford ARS for home. I am looking only for the engine, no attached HD app, etc. Thanks! Alec Sent via BlackBerry from T-Mobile ___ UNSUBSCRIBE or access ARSlist Archives at www.arslist.org ARSlist:"Where the Answers Are" ___ UNSUBSCRIBE or access ARSlist Archives at www.arslist.org ARSlist:"Where the Answers Are" ___ UNSUBSCRIBE or access ARSlist Archives at www.arslist.org ARSlist:"Where the Answers Are" ___ UNSUBSCRIBE or access ARSlist Archives at www.arslist.org ARSlist:"Where the Answers Are" ___ UNSUBSCRIBE or access ARSlist Archives at www.arslist.org ARSlist:"Where the Answers Are" ___ UNSUBSCRIBE or access ARSlist Archives at www.arslist.org ARSlist:"Where the Answers Are" ___ UNSUBSCRIBE or access ARSlist Archives at www.arslist.org ARSlist:"Where the Answers Are"
Re: Competitors to Remedy ARS?
Unlicensed server can do Email -Original Message- From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Alec Alec Sent: Thursday, October 04, 2007 8:46 AM To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG Subject: Re: Competitors to Remedy ARS? I require the email functionality. Sent via BlackBerry from T-Mobile -Original Message- From: "Opela, Gary L Contr OC-ALC/ITMA" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Date: Thu, 4 Oct 2007 09:36:35 To:arslist@ARSLIST.ORG Subject: Re: Competitors to Remedy ARS? Just install an unlicensed version of remedy. I think it allows you up to 1000 records creation, and 3 user licenses. This is good practice too to hone your remedy development skills, so you benefit in your job as well. Now, if you are deploying/selling this application to end users, I'm not sure how that would play in with remedy's licensing model. So, if you are not going to be the only one using it, then this might not work. Thanks, Gary Opela, Jr Sr. Remedy Developer Leader Communications, Inc. 405 736 3211 -Original Message- From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Cupp, Michael E CTR USAF AFRL/RYOD Sent: Thursday, October 04, 2007 9:17 AM To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG Subject: Re: Competitors to Remedy ARS? Sorry for jumping in therethis seems interesting to me as well. :) -Original Message- From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Timothy Powell Sent: Thursday, October 04, 2007 10:09 AM To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG Subject: Re: Competitors to Remedy ARS? How many users? -Original Message- From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Alec Alec Sent: Thursday, October 04, 2007 9:12 AM To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG Subject: Re: Competitors to Remedy ARS? Largest form would be less than 2500 row, probably less than 1000 Sent via BlackBerry from T-Mobile -Original Message- From: "Pickering, Christopher" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Date: Thu, 4 Oct 2007 08:15:10 To:arslist@ARSLIST.ORG Subject: Re: Competitors to Remedy ARS? How much data would you expect the system to hold? Chris Pickering -Original Message- From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Alec Alec Sent: Wednesday, October 03, 2007 5:58 PM To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG Subject: Competitors to Remedy ARS? Are there any less expensive, freeware, open source, etc. competitors to the Remedy ARS product? I have a small home project that I would like to complete, but can't afford ARS for home. I am looking only for the engine, no attached HD app, etc. Thanks! Alec Sent via BlackBerry from T-Mobile ___ UNSUBSCRIBE or access ARSlist Archives at www.arslist.org ARSlist:"Where the Answers Are" ___ UNSUBSCRIBE or access ARSlist Archives at www.arslist.org ARSlist:"Where the Answers Are" ___ UNSUBSCRIBE or access ARSlist Archives at www.arslist.org ARSlist:"Where the Answers Are" ___ UNSUBSCRIBE or access ARSlist Archives at www.arslist.org ARSlist:"Where the Answers Are" ___ UNSUBSCRIBE or access ARSlist Archives at www.arslist.org ARSlist:"Where the Answers Are" ___ UNSUBSCRIBE or access ARSlist Archives at www.arslist.org ARSlist:"Where the Answers Are"
Re: Competitors to Remedy ARS?
Or HotBasic. With HotBasic you type this: CREATE newForm AS FORM END CREATE newForm.SHOWMODAL and then hit the F5 key and voila! A Windows form appears on the screen. Then do this: CREATE newForm AS FORM CREATE newEditField AS EDIT END CREATE END CREATE newForm.SHOWMODAL and your form now appears with a character field on it. Very, very easy. Much easier than .Net, yet with comparable capabilities. Norm -Original Message- From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Pierson, Shawn Sent: Thursday, October 04, 2007 9:48 AM To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG Subject: Re: Competitors to Remedy ARS? Perhaps you should give more requirements. You mentioned that you want something like ARS, but don't really care about ITSM or any specific type of module. It sounds like you're wanting to build custom database driven applications, right? If so, rather than looking at something like Remedy, you'd be better off finding a traditional development language that has a good interface to build forms and back end workflow. I don't know of any as easy as Remedy, but .NET would be a good option for something similar. Shawn Pierson -Original Message- From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Alec Alec Sent: Thursday, October 04, 2007 9:46 AM To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG Subject: Re: Competitors to Remedy ARS? I require the email functionality. Sent via BlackBerry from T-Mobile -Original Message- From: "Opela, Gary L Contr OC-ALC/ITMA" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Date: Thu, 4 Oct 2007 09:36:35 To:arslist@ARSLIST.ORG Subject: Re: Competitors to Remedy ARS? Just install an unlicensed version of remedy. I think it allows you up to 1000 records creation, and 3 user licenses. This is good practice too to hone your remedy development skills, so you benefit in your job as well. Now, if you are deploying/selling this application to end users, I'm not sure how that would play in with remedy's licensing model. So, if you are not going to be the only one using it, then this might not work. Thanks, Gary Opela, Jr Sr. Remedy Developer Leader Communications, Inc. 405 736 3211 -Original Message- From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Cupp, Michael E CTR USAF AFRL/RYOD Sent: Thursday, October 04, 2007 9:17 AM To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG Subject: Re: Competitors to Remedy ARS? Sorry for jumping in therethis seems interesting to me as well. :) -Original Message- From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Timothy Powell Sent: Thursday, October 04, 2007 10:09 AM To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG Subject: Re: Competitors to Remedy ARS? How many users? -Original Message- From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Alec Alec Sent: Thursday, October 04, 2007 9:12 AM To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG Subject: Re: Competitors to Remedy ARS? Largest form would be less than 2500 row, probably less than 1000 Sent via BlackBerry from T-Mobile -Original Message- From: "Pickering, Christopher" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Date: Thu, 4 Oct 2007 08:15:10 To:arslist@ARSLIST.ORG Subject: Re: Competitors to Remedy ARS? How much data would you expect the system to hold? Chris Pickering -Original Message- From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Alec Alec Sent: Wednesday, October 03, 2007 5:58 PM To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG Subject: Competitors to Remedy ARS? Are there any less expensive, freeware, open source, etc. competitors to the Remedy ARS product? I have a small home project that I would like to complete, but can't afford ARS for home. I am looking only for the engine, no attached HD app, etc. Thanks! Alec Sent via BlackBerry from T-Mobile ___ UNSUBSCRIBE or access ARSlist Archives at www.arslist.org ARSlist:"Where the Answers Are" ___ UNSUBSCRIBE or access ARSlist Archives at www.arslist.org ARSlist:"Where the Answers Are" ___ UNSUBSCRIBE or access ARSlist Archives at www.arslist.org ARSlist:"Where the Answers Are" ___ UNSUBSCRIBE or access ARSlist Archives at www.arslist.org ARSlist:"Where the Answers Are" ___ UNSUBSCRIBE or access ARSlist Archives at www.arslist.org ARSlist:"Where the Answers Are" Private and confidential as d
Re: Competitors to Remedy ARS?
Perhaps you should give more requirements. You mentioned that you want something like ARS, but don't really care about ITSM or any specific type of module. It sounds like you're wanting to build custom database driven applications, right? If so, rather than looking at something like Remedy, you'd be better off finding a traditional development language that has a good interface to build forms and back end workflow. I don't know of any as easy as Remedy, but .NET would be a good option for something similar. Shawn Pierson -Original Message- From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Alec Alec Sent: Thursday, October 04, 2007 9:46 AM To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG Subject: Re: Competitors to Remedy ARS? I require the email functionality. Sent via BlackBerry from T-Mobile -Original Message- From: "Opela, Gary L Contr OC-ALC/ITMA" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Date: Thu, 4 Oct 2007 09:36:35 To:arslist@ARSLIST.ORG Subject: Re: Competitors to Remedy ARS? Just install an unlicensed version of remedy. I think it allows you up to 1000 records creation, and 3 user licenses. This is good practice too to hone your remedy development skills, so you benefit in your job as well. Now, if you are deploying/selling this application to end users, I'm not sure how that would play in with remedy's licensing model. So, if you are not going to be the only one using it, then this might not work. Thanks, Gary Opela, Jr Sr. Remedy Developer Leader Communications, Inc. 405 736 3211 -Original Message- From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Cupp, Michael E CTR USAF AFRL/RYOD Sent: Thursday, October 04, 2007 9:17 AM To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG Subject: Re: Competitors to Remedy ARS? Sorry for jumping in therethis seems interesting to me as well. :) -Original Message- From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Timothy Powell Sent: Thursday, October 04, 2007 10:09 AM To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG Subject: Re: Competitors to Remedy ARS? How many users? -Original Message- From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Alec Alec Sent: Thursday, October 04, 2007 9:12 AM To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG Subject: Re: Competitors to Remedy ARS? Largest form would be less than 2500 row, probably less than 1000 Sent via BlackBerry from T-Mobile -Original Message- From: "Pickering, Christopher" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Date: Thu, 4 Oct 2007 08:15:10 To:arslist@ARSLIST.ORG Subject: Re: Competitors to Remedy ARS? How much data would you expect the system to hold? Chris Pickering -Original Message- From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Alec Alec Sent: Wednesday, October 03, 2007 5:58 PM To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG Subject: Competitors to Remedy ARS? Are there any less expensive, freeware, open source, etc. competitors to the Remedy ARS product? I have a small home project that I would like to complete, but can't afford ARS for home. I am looking only for the engine, no attached HD app, etc. Thanks! Alec Sent via BlackBerry from T-Mobile ___ UNSUBSCRIBE or access ARSlist Archives at www.arslist.org ARSlist:"Where the Answers Are" ___ UNSUBSCRIBE or access ARSlist Archives at www.arslist.org ARSlist:"Where the Answers Are" ___ UNSUBSCRIBE or access ARSlist Archives at www.arslist.org ARSlist:"Where the Answers Are" ___ UNSUBSCRIBE or access ARSlist Archives at www.arslist.org ARSlist:"Where the Answers Are" ___ UNSUBSCRIBE or access ARSlist Archives at www.arslist.org ARSlist:"Where the Answers Are" Private and confidential as detailed http://www.sug.com/disclaimers/default.htm#Mail";>here. If you cannot access hyperlink, please e-mail sender. ___ UNSUBSCRIBE or access ARSlist Archives at www.arslist.org ARSlist:"Where the Answers Are"
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I require the email functionality. Sent via BlackBerry from T-Mobile -Original Message- From: "Opela, Gary L Contr OC-ALC/ITMA" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Date: Thu, 4 Oct 2007 09:36:35 To:arslist@ARSLIST.ORG Subject: Re: Competitors to Remedy ARS? Just install an unlicensed version of remedy. I think it allows you up to 1000 records creation, and 3 user licenses. This is good practice too to hone your remedy development skills, so you benefit in your job as well. Now, if you are deploying/selling this application to end users, I'm not sure how that would play in with remedy's licensing model. So, if you are not going to be the only one using it, then this might not work. Thanks, Gary Opela, Jr Sr. Remedy Developer Leader Communications, Inc. 405 736 3211 -Original Message- From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Cupp, Michael E CTR USAF AFRL/RYOD Sent: Thursday, October 04, 2007 9:17 AM To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG Subject: Re: Competitors to Remedy ARS? Sorry for jumping in therethis seems interesting to me as well. :) -Original Message- From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Timothy Powell Sent: Thursday, October 04, 2007 10:09 AM To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG Subject: Re: Competitors to Remedy ARS? How many users? -Original Message- From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Alec Alec Sent: Thursday, October 04, 2007 9:12 AM To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG Subject: Re: Competitors to Remedy ARS? Largest form would be less than 2500 row, probably less than 1000 Sent via BlackBerry from T-Mobile -Original Message- From: "Pickering, Christopher" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Date: Thu, 4 Oct 2007 08:15:10 To:arslist@ARSLIST.ORG Subject: Re: Competitors to Remedy ARS? How much data would you expect the system to hold? Chris Pickering -Original Message- From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Alec Alec Sent: Wednesday, October 03, 2007 5:58 PM To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG Subject: Competitors to Remedy ARS? Are there any less expensive, freeware, open source, etc. competitors to the Remedy ARS product? I have a small home project that I would like to complete, but can't afford ARS for home. I am looking only for the engine, no attached HD app, etc. Thanks! Alec Sent via BlackBerry from T-Mobile ___ UNSUBSCRIBE or access ARSlist Archives at www.arslist.org ARSlist:"Where the Answers Are" ___ UNSUBSCRIBE or access ARSlist Archives at www.arslist.org ARSlist:"Where the Answers Are" ___ UNSUBSCRIBE or access ARSlist Archives at www.arslist.org ARSlist:"Where the Answers Are" ___ UNSUBSCRIBE or access ARSlist Archives at www.arslist.org ARSlist:"Where the Answers Are" ___ UNSUBSCRIBE or access ARSlist Archives at www.arslist.org ARSlist:"Where the Answers Are"
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Just install an unlicensed version of remedy. I think it allows you up to 1000 records creation, and 3 user licenses. This is good practice too to hone your remedy development skills, so you benefit in your job as well. Now, if you are deploying/selling this application to end users, I'm not sure how that would play in with remedy's licensing model. So, if you are not going to be the only one using it, then this might not work. Thanks, Gary Opela, Jr Sr. Remedy Developer Leader Communications, Inc. 405 736 3211 -Original Message- From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Cupp, Michael E CTR USAF AFRL/RYOD Sent: Thursday, October 04, 2007 9:17 AM To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG Subject: Re: Competitors to Remedy ARS? Sorry for jumping in therethis seems interesting to me as well. :) -Original Message- From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Timothy Powell Sent: Thursday, October 04, 2007 10:09 AM To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG Subject: Re: Competitors to Remedy ARS? How many users? -Original Message- From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Alec Alec Sent: Thursday, October 04, 2007 9:12 AM To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG Subject: Re: Competitors to Remedy ARS? Largest form would be less than 2500 row, probably less than 1000 Sent via BlackBerry from T-Mobile -Original Message- From: "Pickering, Christopher" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Date: Thu, 4 Oct 2007 08:15:10 To:arslist@ARSLIST.ORG Subject: Re: Competitors to Remedy ARS? How much data would you expect the system to hold? Chris Pickering -Original Message- From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Alec Alec Sent: Wednesday, October 03, 2007 5:58 PM To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG Subject: Competitors to Remedy ARS? Are there any less expensive, freeware, open source, etc. competitors to the Remedy ARS product? I have a small home project that I would like to complete, but can't afford ARS for home. I am looking only for the engine, no attached HD app, etc. Thanks! Alec Sent via BlackBerry from T-Mobile ___ UNSUBSCRIBE or access ARSlist Archives at www.arslist.org ARSlist:"Where the Answers Are" ___ UNSUBSCRIBE or access ARSlist Archives at www.arslist.org ARSlist:"Where the Answers Are" ___ UNSUBSCRIBE or access ARSlist Archives at www.arslist.org ARSlist:"Where the Answers Are" ___ UNSUBSCRIBE or access ARSlist Archives at www.arslist.org ARSlist:"Where the Answers Are" ___ UNSUBSCRIBE or access ARSlist Archives at www.arslist.org ARSlist:"Where the Answers Are"
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Sorry for jumping in therethis seems interesting to me as well. :) -Original Message- From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Timothy Powell Sent: Thursday, October 04, 2007 10:09 AM To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG Subject: Re: Competitors to Remedy ARS? How many users? -Original Message- From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Alec Alec Sent: Thursday, October 04, 2007 9:12 AM To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG Subject: Re: Competitors to Remedy ARS? Largest form would be less than 2500 row, probably less than 1000 Sent via BlackBerry from T-Mobile -Original Message- From: "Pickering, Christopher" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Date: Thu, 4 Oct 2007 08:15:10 To:arslist@ARSLIST.ORG Subject: Re: Competitors to Remedy ARS? How much data would you expect the system to hold? Chris Pickering -Original Message- From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Alec Alec Sent: Wednesday, October 03, 2007 5:58 PM To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG Subject: Competitors to Remedy ARS? Are there any less expensive, freeware, open source, etc. competitors to the Remedy ARS product? I have a small home project that I would like to complete, but can't afford ARS for home. I am looking only for the engine, no attached HD app, etc. Thanks! Alec Sent via BlackBerry from T-Mobile ___ UNSUBSCRIBE or access ARSlist Archives at www.arslist.org ARSlist:"Where the Answers Are" ___ UNSUBSCRIBE or access ARSlist Archives at www.arslist.org ARSlist:"Where the Answers Are" ___ UNSUBSCRIBE or access ARSlist Archives at www.arslist.org ARSlist:"Where the Answers Are" ___ UNSUBSCRIBE or access ARSlist Archives at www.arslist.org ARSlist:"Where the Answers Are"
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I would be looking at less than 5 users. Sent via BlackBerry from T-Mobile ___ UNSUBSCRIBE or access ARSlist Archives at www.arslist.org ARSlist:"Where the Answers Are"
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1 -Original Message- From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Timothy Powell Sent: Thursday, October 04, 2007 10:09 AM To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG Subject: Re: Competitors to Remedy ARS? How many users? -Original Message- From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Alec Alec Sent: Thursday, October 04, 2007 9:12 AM To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG Subject: Re: Competitors to Remedy ARS? Largest form would be less than 2500 row, probably less than 1000 Sent via BlackBerry from T-Mobile -Original Message- From: "Pickering, Christopher" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Date: Thu, 4 Oct 2007 08:15:10 To:arslist@ARSLIST.ORG Subject: Re: Competitors to Remedy ARS? How much data would you expect the system to hold? Chris Pickering -Original Message- From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Alec Alec Sent: Wednesday, October 03, 2007 5:58 PM To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG Subject: Competitors to Remedy ARS? Are there any less expensive, freeware, open source, etc. competitors to the Remedy ARS product? I have a small home project that I would like to complete, but can't afford ARS for home. I am looking only for the engine, no attached HD app, etc. Thanks! Alec Sent via BlackBerry from T-Mobile ___ UNSUBSCRIBE or access ARSlist Archives at www.arslist.org ARSlist:"Where the Answers Are" ___ UNSUBSCRIBE or access ARSlist Archives at www.arslist.org ARSlist:"Where the Answers Are" ___ UNSUBSCRIBE or access ARSlist Archives at www.arslist.org ARSlist:"Where the Answers Are" ___ UNSUBSCRIBE or access ARSlist Archives at www.arslist.org ARSlist:"Where the Answers Are"
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How many users? -Original Message- From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Alec Alec Sent: Thursday, October 04, 2007 9:12 AM To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG Subject: Re: Competitors to Remedy ARS? Largest form would be less than 2500 row, probably less than 1000 Sent via BlackBerry from T-Mobile -Original Message- From: "Pickering, Christopher" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Date: Thu, 4 Oct 2007 08:15:10 To:arslist@ARSLIST.ORG Subject: Re: Competitors to Remedy ARS? How much data would you expect the system to hold? Chris Pickering -Original Message- From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Alec Alec Sent: Wednesday, October 03, 2007 5:58 PM To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG Subject: Competitors to Remedy ARS? Are there any less expensive, freeware, open source, etc. competitors to the Remedy ARS product? I have a small home project that I would like to complete, but can't afford ARS for home. I am looking only for the engine, no attached HD app, etc. Thanks! Alec Sent via BlackBerry from T-Mobile ___ UNSUBSCRIBE or access ARSlist Archives at www.arslist.org ARSlist:"Where the Answers Are" ___ UNSUBSCRIBE or access ARSlist Archives at www.arslist.org ARSlist:"Where the Answers Are" ___ UNSUBSCRIBE or access ARSlist Archives at www.arslist.org ARSlist:"Where the Answers Are"
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Largest form would be less than 2500 row, probably less than 1000 Sent via BlackBerry from T-Mobile -Original Message- From: "Pickering, Christopher" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Date: Thu, 4 Oct 2007 08:15:10 To:arslist@ARSLIST.ORG Subject: Re: Competitors to Remedy ARS? How much data would you expect the system to hold? Chris Pickering -Original Message- From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Alec Alec Sent: Wednesday, October 03, 2007 5:58 PM To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG Subject: Competitors to Remedy ARS? Are there any less expensive, freeware, open source, etc. competitors to the Remedy ARS product? I have a small home project that I would like to complete, but can't afford ARS for home. I am looking only for the engine, no attached HD app, etc. Thanks! Alec Sent via BlackBerry from T-Mobile ___ UNSUBSCRIBE or access ARSlist Archives at www.arslist.org ARSlist:"Where the Answers Are" ___ UNSUBSCRIBE or access ARSlist Archives at www.arslist.org ARSlist:"Where the Answers Are"
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I'm not sure you would call it a direct competitor, but for rapid app development, I'm now partial to HotBasic. It's an ultra-simple programming language that lets you build database apps very easily. The very surprising thing is, despite its simplicity, it produces some of the smallest and fastest applications when compared to other compilers. -Original Message- From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Alec Alec Sent: Wednesday, October 03, 2007 4:58 PM To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG Subject: Competitors to Remedy ARS? Are there any less expensive, freeware, open source, etc. competitors to the Remedy ARS product? I have a small home project that I would like to complete, but can't afford ARS for home. I am looking only for the engine, no attached HD app, etc. Thanks! Alec Sent via BlackBerry from T-Mobile ___ UNSUBSCRIBE or access ARSlist Archives at www.arslist.org ARSlist:"Where the Answers Are" ___ UNSUBSCRIBE or access ARSlist Archives at www.arslist.org ARSlist:"Where the Answers Are"
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How much data would you expect the system to hold? Chris Pickering -Original Message- From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Alec Alec Sent: Wednesday, October 03, 2007 5:58 PM To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG Subject: Competitors to Remedy ARS? Are there any less expensive, freeware, open source, etc. competitors to the Remedy ARS product? I have a small home project that I would like to complete, but can't afford ARS for home. I am looking only for the engine, no attached HD app, etc. Thanks! Alec Sent via BlackBerry from T-Mobile ___ UNSUBSCRIBE or access ARSlist Archives at www.arslist.org ARSlist:"Where the Answers Are" ___ UNSUBSCRIBE or access ARSlist Archives at www.arslist.org ARSlist:"Where the Answers Are"
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What utility would I look for there? From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Frank Caruso Sent: Wednesday, October 03, 2007 9:46 PM To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG Subject: Re: Competitors to Remedy ARS? ** http://mashable.com/2007/09/23/open-source/ On 10/3/07, Alec Alec < [EMAIL PROTECTED] <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: Are there any less expensive, freeware, open source, etc. competitors to the Remedy ARS product? I have a small home project that I would like to complete, but can't afford ARS for home. I am looking only for the engine, no attached HD app, etc. Thanks! Alec Sent via BlackBerry from T-Mobile ___ UNSUBSCRIBE or access ARSlist Archives at www.arslist.org ARSlist:"Where the Answers Are" -- Frank Caruso Specific Integration, Inc. Senior Remedy Engineer, ITIL Foundation Certified www.specificintegration.com <http://www.specificintegration.com> 703-376-1249 __20060125___This posting was submitted with HTML in it___ ___ UNSUBSCRIBE or access ARSlist Archives at www.arslist.org ARSlist:"Where the Answers Are"
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http://mashable.com/2007/09/23/open-source/ On 10/3/07, Alec Alec <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Are there any less expensive, freeware, open source, etc. competitors to > the Remedy ARS product? > > I have a small home project that I would like to complete, but can't > afford ARS for home. I am looking only for the engine, no attached HD app, > etc. > > > Thanks! > Alec > > Sent via BlackBerry from T-Mobile > > > ___ > UNSUBSCRIBE or access ARSlist Archives at www.arslist.org ARSlist:"Where > the Answers Are" > -- Frank Caruso Specific Integration, Inc. Senior Remedy Engineer, ITIL Foundation Certified www.specificintegration.com 703-376-1249 ___ UNSUBSCRIBE or access ARSlist Archives at www.arslist.org ARSlist:"Where the Answers Are"
Competitors to Remedy ARS?
Are there any less expensive, freeware, open source, etc. competitors to the Remedy ARS product? I have a small home project that I would like to complete, but can't afford ARS for home. I am looking only for the engine, no attached HD app, etc. Thanks! Alec Sent via BlackBerry from T-Mobile ___ UNSUBSCRIBE or access ARSlist Archives at www.arslist.org ARSlist:"Where the Answers Are"
