Re: Creating subfile records from list on submit SOLVED

2008-10-16 Thread Dwayne Martin
Field 179 did it!  Thanks, Brian, and everyone else who responded.

I didn’t know about that feature so for the benefit of anyone equally ignorant, 
I’ll copy what the manual says:

“To auto-populate a field with a GUID, define a character field using field ID 
179. A GUID is available through all filter phases. By contrast, the value of 
Request ID field is not available until an entry has been successfully 
committed to the database. You can set the attributes of the GUID field, except 
for field type, length, and ID.”

I created a field called “F179” with an ID of 179.  I have filters that end 
with `!, and during phase 1 they do “Push Fields” to create subfile records 
with a Parent ID equal to F179.  Then at the very end a filter does a “Push 
Fields” to all subfile records where Parent ID = F179.  This filter does not 
end with `!, so the Push Field runs in phase 2 when the Entry ID has been set, 
so it updates all the subfile “Parent ID” fields to the real Parent ID.

One interesting feature of F179, if you look at the field you don't see any 
value, but if you follow the filter log you see a long string of gibberish 
getting pushed to other fields.

Thanks again, everyone!

Dwayne


 Original message 
Date: Thu, 16 Oct 2008 12:18:43 -0700
From: Brien Dieterle [EMAIL PROTECTED]  
Subject: Re: Creating subfile records from list on submit  
To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG

   **
   Right, I think Joe and I are trying to suggest using
   an ActiveLink and not a filter :-)

   Brien

   On Thu, Oct 16, 2008 at 11:34 AM, Grooms, Frederick
   W [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 A Filter does not use the @@: syntax (Evidenced by
 the v7.1.0 filter AR
 System Email GUID Generator)
 I pulled the 38 length from Field 179 on the stock
 ARS form AR System
 Email Association

 Dwayne,
  Out of curosity, try changing the field to 38
 characters long (maybe
 the command does not like fields 255 characters
 long.
 Fred

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Re: Creating subfile records from list on submit SOLVED

2008-10-16 Thread Ben Chernys
Guys,

Field 179 is just that.  A guid that is autopopulated on creation (at least 
on submit, not sure about merge).  

All ARS guid fields are 38 bytes long.  Any field (not just 179) can be set 
with the process Application-Generate-Guid xx.  That field should be 38 chars 
long.  

With field 179, the process does not need to be called and the field will be 
auto-populated.  A lot of times an InstanceId (as the BMC OOTB Apps like to 
call thier 179 fields) will be set with a set fields @@ process in an Active 
link so that dependent records may be built before the paent record exists 
(therby NOT being able to link to field 1).  Of course, if the parent is not 
saved, you must include workflow to delete the saved child records.

Cheers
Nem
 
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On Behalf Of Dwayne Martin
Sent: October 16, 2008 10:43 PM
To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
Subject: Re: Creating subfile records from list on submit SOLVED

Field 179 did it!  Thanks, Brian, and everyone else who responded.

I didn’t know about that feature so for the benefit of anyone equally ignorant, 
I’ll copy what the manual says:

“To auto-populate a field with a GUID, define a character field using field ID 
179. A GUID is available through all filter phases. By contrast, the value of 
Request ID field is not available until an entry has been successfully 
committed to the database. You can set the attributes of the GUID field, except 
for field type, length, and ID.”

I created a field called “F179” with an ID of 179.  I have filters that end 
with `!, and during phase 1 they do “Push Fields” to create subfile records 
with a Parent ID equal to F179.  Then at the very end a filter does a “Push 
Fields” to all subfile records where Parent ID = F179.  This filter does not 
end with `!, so the Push Field runs in phase 2 when the Entry ID has been set, 
so it updates all the subfile “Parent ID” fields to the real Parent ID.

One interesting feature of F179, if you look at the field you don't see any 
value, but if you follow the filter log you see a long string of gibberish 
getting pushed to other fields.

Thanks again, everyone!

Dwayne


 Original message 
Date: Thu, 16 Oct 2008 12:18:43 -0700
From: Brien Dieterle [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Creating subfile records from list on submit
To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG

   **
   Right, I think Joe and I are trying to suggest using
   an ActiveLink and not a filter :-)

   Brien

   On Thu, Oct 16, 2008 at 11:34 AM, Grooms, Frederick
   W [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 A Filter does not use the @@: syntax (Evidenced by
 the v7.1.0 filter AR
 System Email GUID Generator)
 I pulled the 38 length from Field 179 on the stock
 ARS form AR System
 Email Association

 Dwayne,
  Out of curosity, try changing the field to 38
 characters long (maybe
 the command does not like fields 255 characters
 long.
 Fred

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Re: Creating subfile records from list on submit SOLVED

2008-10-16 Thread Joe DeSouza
Use it with one word of caution though.. It used to not auto populate on 6.3 
days and below though it was designed to. You had to use that run process 
action. They automated the population on release of version 7.

Joe


- Original Message 
From: Ben Chernys [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
Sent: Thursday, October 16, 2008 5:14:43 PM
Subject: Re: Creating subfile records from list on submit SOLVED

Guys,

Field 179 is just that.  A guid that is autopopulated on creation (at least 
on submit, not sure about merge).  

All ARS guid fields are 38 bytes long.  Any field (not just 179) can be set 
with the process Application-Generate-Guid xx.  That field should be 38 chars 
long.  

With field 179, the process does not need to be called and the field will be 
auto-populated.  A lot of times an InstanceId (as the BMC OOTB Apps like to 
call thier 179 fields) will be set with a set fields @@ process in an Active 
link so that dependent records may be built before the paent record exists 
(therby NOT being able to link to field 1).  Of course, if the parent is not 
saved, you must include workflow to delete the saved child records.

Cheers
Nem

-Original Message-
From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
On Behalf Of Dwayne Martin
Sent: October 16, 2008 10:43 PM
To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
Subject: Re: Creating subfile records from list on submit SOLVED

Field 179 did it!  Thanks, Brian, and everyone else who responded.

I didn’t know about that feature so for the benefit of anyone equally ignorant, 
I’ll copy what the manual says:

“To auto-populate a field with a GUID, define a character field using field ID 
179. A GUID is available through all filter phases. By contrast, the value of 
Request ID field is not available until an entry has been successfully 
committed to the database. You can set the attributes of the GUID field, except 
for field type, length, and ID.”

I created a field called “F179” with an ID of 179.  I have filters that end 
with `!, and during phase 1 they do “Push Fields” to create subfile records 
with a Parent ID equal to F179.  Then at the very end a filter does a “Push 
Fields” to all subfile records where Parent ID = F179.  This filter does not 
end with `!, so the Push Field runs in phase 2 when the Entry ID has been set, 
so it updates all the subfile “Parent ID” fields to the real Parent ID.

One interesting feature of F179, if you look at the field you don't see any 
value, but if you follow the filter log you see a long string of gibberish 
getting pushed to other fields.

Thanks again, everyone!

Dwayne


 Original message 
Date: Thu, 16 Oct 2008 12:18:43 -0700
From: Brien Dieterle [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Creating subfile records from list on submit
To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG

   **
   Right, I think Joe and I are trying to suggest using
   an ActiveLink and not a filter :-)

   Brien

   On Thu, Oct 16, 2008 at 11:34 AM, Grooms, Frederick
   W [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 A Filter does not use the @@: syntax (Evidenced by
 the v7.1.0 filter AR
 System Email GUID Generator)
 I pulled the 38 length from Field 179 on the stock
 ARS form AR System
 Email Association

 Dwayne,
  Out of curosity, try changing the field to 38
 characters long (maybe
 the command does not like fields 255 characters
 long.
 Fred

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 From: Action Request System discussion
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