Re: DB Copy Issue

2015-02-12 Thread Misi Mladoniczky
Hi,

Yes, but you can still use a Fixed license on both servers with
old/legacy/green licensing, as long as it is assigned to the same user. So if
you have an account on both servers, you will only need one fixed license for
that user.

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 I thought of two more items worth mentioning. The User records will be copied
 over so to remain in compliance you will likely need to change most of your
 user accounts to Read licenses after the DB copy.

 Also the entitlements for user licenses mentioned by Davin only apply to the
 Blue pricing model. If you happen to be on the Legacy/Green model that is not
 the case as licenses are purchased for production use at one cost and for
 development use at a lower cost so they are not interchangeable.

 -Rick

 From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList)
 [mailto:arslist@ARSLIST.ORG] On Behalf Of Davin Lindner-Green
 Sent: Wednesday, February 11, 2015 2:38 PM
 To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
 Subject: Re: DB Copy Issue

 **
 A second vote to use the Remedy Restore Tool, plus some hints on licenses. In
 version 7.x they are stored in the database so will get copied along with
 everything else.

 Also, if you are on version 7 or newer the only license key that is tied to
 your Host ID (your hardware) is the AR Server license. You should add the AR
 Server license from DEV to your PROD environment before you copy the database.
 That way it will be there when you start up DEV post-copy.

 In terms of entitlement, my understanding is that you are entitled to use AR
 User Fixed licenses on any server in your environment as long as the users are
 the same named users (which they will be after database copy). AR User
 Floating licenses may be tied to a specific server (although not enforced by
 the license key mechanism) so you might have to adjust that number after a
 copy. However this depends on which licensing model you are under with BMC so
 you might not have to adjust anything in terms of licensing.

 Last item, you may want to disable the email engine and any external
 integrations on DEV before the copy, so you don't accidentally send duplicate
 email notifications or trigger integration actions from DEV. Also, if you are
 using custom Remedy applications at all, any server references you may have
 included for integrations and the like won't be detected and changed by Remedy
 Restore Tool. It is oriented primarily at ITSM and ARS core forms only.

 Thanks
 Davin



 On Feb 11, 2015, at 3:27 PM, Rick Westbrock
 rwestbr...@24hourfit.commailto:rwestbr...@24hourfit.com wrote:

 **
 Check out the Remedy Restore Tool by Carl Wilson
 (http://communities.bmc.com/docs/DOC-7710https://communities.bmc.com/docs/DOC-7710
 ), it handles nearly all the deprodification steps required when copying a
 production database to a non-prod environment. I normally adjust the licenses
 manually myself but it depends on your version of ARS. If you are on version 7
 or newer (I think) it’s quite easy to just change the numbers in the
 console; if you are on 6.x or older it will be a lot more painful due to the
 old licensing model.

 -Rick


 From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList)
 [mailto:arslist@ARSLIST.ORG] On Behalf Of Scott Hallenger
 Sent: Wednesday, February 11, 2015 2:14 PM
 To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORGmailto:arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
 Subject: DB Copy Issue

 **
 Wondering if anyone can offer some advice on this issue. Can  I copy our
 production db to our dev server as an means of syncing dev to production. The
 end goal being to make my dev look just like production. Our dev server does
 not have the same number of licenses as production naturally. Is this
 something that can be done with a basic db copy.
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DB Copy Issue

2015-02-11 Thread Scott Hallenger
Wondering if anyone can offer some advice on this issue. Can  I copy our 
production db to our dev server as an means of syncing dev to production. The 
end goal being to make my dev look just like production. Our dev server does 
not have the same number of licenses as production naturally. Is this something 
that can be done with a basic db copy.

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Re: DB Copy Issue

2015-02-11 Thread Rick Westbrock
Check out the Remedy Restore Tool by Carl Wilson 
(http://communities.bmc.com/docs/DOC-7710https://communities.bmc.com/docs/DOC-7710
 ), it handles nearly all the deprodification steps required when copying a 
production database to a non-prod environment. I normally adjust the licenses 
manually myself but it depends on your version of ARS. If you are on version 7 
or newer (I think) it’s quite easy to just change the numbers in the console; 
if you are on 6.x or older it will be a lot more painful due to the old 
licensing model.

-Rick


From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) 
[mailto:arslist@ARSLIST.ORG] On Behalf Of Scott Hallenger
Sent: Wednesday, February 11, 2015 2:14 PM
To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
Subject: DB Copy Issue

**
Wondering if anyone can offer some advice on this issue. Can  I copy our 
production db to our dev server as an means of syncing dev to production. The 
end goal being to make my dev look just like production. Our dev server does 
not have the same number of licenses as production naturally. Is this something 
that can be done with a basic db copy.
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Re: DB Copy Issue

2015-02-11 Thread Davin Lindner-Green
A second vote to use the Remedy Restore Tool, plus some hints on licenses. In 
version 7.x they are stored in the database so will get copied along with 
everything else.

Also, if you are on version 7 or newer the only license key that is tied to 
your Host ID (your hardware) is the AR Server license. You should add the AR 
Server license from DEV to your PROD environment before you copy the database. 
That way it will be there when you start up DEV post-copy.

In terms of entitlement, my understanding is that you are entitled to use AR 
User Fixed licenses on any server in your environment as long as the users are 
the same named users (which they will be after database copy). AR User Floating 
licenses may be tied to a specific server (although not enforced by the license 
key mechanism) so you might have to adjust that number after a copy. However 
this depends on which licensing model you are under with BMC so you might not 
have to adjust anything in terms of licensing.

Last item, you may want to disable the email engine and any external 
integrations on DEV before the copy, so you don't accidentally send duplicate 
email notifications or trigger integration actions from DEV. Also, if you are 
using custom Remedy applications at all, any server references you may have 
included for integrations and the like won't be detected and changed by Remedy 
Restore Tool. It is oriented primarily at ITSM and ARS core forms only.

Thanks
Davin



 On Feb 11, 2015, at 3:27 PM, Rick Westbrock rwestbr...@24hourfit.com wrote:
 
 **
 Check out the Remedy Restore Tool by Carl Wilson 
 (http://communities.bmc.com/docs/DOC-7710 
 https://communities.bmc.com/docs/DOC-7710 ), it handles nearly all the 
 deprodification steps required when copying a production database to a 
 non-prod environment. I normally adjust the licenses manually myself but it 
 depends on your version of ARS. If you are on version 7 or newer (I think) 
 it’s quite easy to just change the numbers in the console; if you are on 6.x 
 or older it will be a lot more painful due to the old licensing model.
  
 -Rick
  
  
 From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) 
 [mailto:arslist@ARSLIST.ORG] On Behalf Of Scott Hallenger
 Sent: Wednesday, February 11, 2015 2:14 PM
 To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
 Subject: DB Copy Issue
  
 ** 
 Wondering if anyone can offer some advice on this issue. Can  I copy our 
 production db to our dev server as an means of syncing dev to production. The 
 end goal being to make my dev look just like production. Our dev server does 
 not have the same number of licenses as production naturally. Is this 
 something that can be done with a basic db copy.
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Re: DB Copy Issue

2015-02-11 Thread Rick Westbrock
I thought of two more items worth mentioning. The User records will be copied 
over so to remain in compliance you will likely need to change most of your 
user accounts to Read licenses after the DB copy.

Also the entitlements for user licenses mentioned by Davin only apply to the 
Blue pricing model. If you happen to be on the Legacy/Green model that is not 
the case as licenses are purchased for production use at one cost and for 
development use at a lower cost so they are not interchangeable.

-Rick

From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) 
[mailto:arslist@ARSLIST.ORG] On Behalf Of Davin Lindner-Green
Sent: Wednesday, February 11, 2015 2:38 PM
To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
Subject: Re: DB Copy Issue

**
A second vote to use the Remedy Restore Tool, plus some hints on licenses. In 
version 7.x they are stored in the database so will get copied along with 
everything else.

Also, if you are on version 7 or newer the only license key that is tied to 
your Host ID (your hardware) is the AR Server license. You should add the AR 
Server license from DEV to your PROD environment before you copy the database. 
That way it will be there when you start up DEV post-copy.

In terms of entitlement, my understanding is that you are entitled to use AR 
User Fixed licenses on any server in your environment as long as the users are 
the same named users (which they will be after database copy). AR User Floating 
licenses may be tied to a specific server (although not enforced by the license 
key mechanism) so you might have to adjust that number after a copy. However 
this depends on which licensing model you are under with BMC so you might not 
have to adjust anything in terms of licensing.

Last item, you may want to disable the email engine and any external 
integrations on DEV before the copy, so you don't accidentally send duplicate 
email notifications or trigger integration actions from DEV. Also, if you are 
using custom Remedy applications at all, any server references you may have 
included for integrations and the like won't be detected and changed by Remedy 
Restore Tool. It is oriented primarily at ITSM and ARS core forms only.

Thanks
Davin



On Feb 11, 2015, at 3:27 PM, Rick Westbrock 
rwestbr...@24hourfit.commailto:rwestbr...@24hourfit.com wrote:

**
Check out the Remedy Restore Tool by Carl Wilson 
(http://communities.bmc.com/docs/DOC-7710https://communities.bmc.com/docs/DOC-7710
 ), it handles nearly all the deprodification steps required when copying a 
production database to a non-prod environment. I normally adjust the licenses 
manually myself but it depends on your version of ARS. If you are on version 7 
or newer (I think) it’s quite easy to just change the numbers in the console; 
if you are on 6.x or older it will be a lot more painful due to the old 
licensing model.

-Rick


From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) 
[mailto:arslist@ARSLIST.ORG] On Behalf Of Scott Hallenger
Sent: Wednesday, February 11, 2015 2:14 PM
To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORGmailto:arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
Subject: DB Copy Issue

**
Wondering if anyone can offer some advice on this issue. Can  I copy our 
production db to our dev server as an means of syncing dev to production. The 
end goal being to make my dev look just like production. Our dev server does 
not have the same number of licenses as production naturally. Is this something 
that can be done with a basic db copy.
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