OT: Dilbert RE: huh? financial news for bmc ?

2013-05-21 Thread Brock, Anne
Speaking of rewards these days! - Dilbert on Sunday was classic!

http://dilbert.com/fast/2013-05-19/


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When you get to within 5 years or so of retiring, you certainly want to!  We 
'old dogs' that are up there and close to leaving the work force are not real 
interested in learning new tricks.  If we need to in order to be 'rewarded' we 
will, but the rewards are increasingly less interesting.  

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From: Sylvain YVON sylvain.y...@gmail.com
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** 
I don't know, a developer and even a consultant should try and learn new stuff 
every day. Maybe at 50 the flame is gone, but we can't rely on a single vendor 
for our careers on the long term, can we ? 




On Sun, May 19, 2013 at 9:35 PM, Joe D'Souza  jdso...@shyle.net  wrote: 


Unless off course the plan is to cash the cow while it still alive and well 
with a who cares what happens to it after you get your money kind of an 
attitude.. 

I, just like you, am hoping to not have to learn new tricks either for at least 
as long as another decade. 

Unless that trick happens to be around the Remedy Developer Studio as that 
might give Jason, Rod and I, some more material to present at the RUG :) 

Joe 



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Sent: Saturday, May 18, 2013 10:02 PM 
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Dan, 

What all of my business classes and reading of the Wall Street Journal have 
taught me is that you need to have the plans in place before you make an offer 
on a company. 

So I am sure that they had the plans drawn out of what they will be doing with 
Remedy and the other pieces of BMC, before they made the first offer. 

And if Oracle was part of it, they reached out to them as well (either directly 
or indirectly). 

I just want Remedy to be around for another 10 or so years, then I can retire 
and not need to learn something new. Its true what they say you can teach an 
old dog (or in this case Gator) new tricks. 

Have a great weekend, 

hbr 

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I'll pretend it is Friday: Oracle World is coincidentally the week before 
WWRUG13. They could announce there and then everyone stays for a second week. 

From what I read, the initial deal should close just around the time we hold 
our conference, so unless they are working the selling parts of BMC in the 
meantime, it is going to be 2014 before any of that happens, or does Bane, I 
mean Bain, have a track record of making these decisions quickly and before the 
deals close? 

Dan 

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Sent: May 9, 2013 8:42 AM 
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I'm curious, why would Remedy being sold to SAP or Oracle be a negative thing 
in your opinion?  I think it's big enough that it wouldn't be swallowed up 
inside of one of their applications (how long has it taken Oracle to combine 
the eBusiness Suite with PeopleSoft despite the products directly competing?)  
I can see if support deteriorates, maintenance goes up, or some other unknown 
odd factor, but it seems to me like it might be an opportunity for Remedy to be 
implemented in shops that may not have a good ITSM solution but already have 
installs of SAP, Oracle, or whoever hypothetically buys Remedy.  If that's a 
pessimistic scenario it doesn't seem too bad to me. 

Thanks, 

Shawn Pierson 
Remedy Developer | Energy Transfer 


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Since it's incredibly fun to speculate on this situation, I'll offer up: 

- Bain will look at the profitability of the various pieces/business units - 
Mainframe, Service Management, etc... 
- They'll tear out the ugly pieces and get them in the hands of someone who can 
use them (Elliot's involvement indicates that Compuware might be involved) 
- They'll take the profitable pieces and put probably keep them with the newly 
private BMC that needs to invest in ESM. 

So, I'm thinking... Patrol and it's ilk will end up with Compuware since it 
will give them a larger stack of 

Re: Dilbert RE: huh? financial news for bmc ?

2013-05-21 Thread Differ, Alfred W CTR PHD NSWC, 210
I've got a little award on my desk from a previous employer that says 
Something to Believe In along with a date on it. They wanted us to believe 
they would still be in business on that date. Instead, within three years they 
were bought by First Union Bank who merged later with Wachovia. If you know 
which banks suffered during the financial meltdown and how their issues were 
resolved you might understand why I keep this award as a reminder to think for 
myself. 8)

No matter what happens to the companies and product lines we support, always 
beware of marketing hype. Some of it is too positive and some  is too negative. 
We will see how this works out anyway.

This cartoon goes into my folder of 'appreciation' awards, but I think 
cash-value is expecting too much. 
I just want the stories I need for my resume, future job interviews, and other 
sales pitches. I already know how to turn the stories into cash. 8)

-al

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Speaking of rewards these days! - Dilbert on Sunday was classic!

http://dilbert.com/fast/2013-05-19/



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Re: Dilbert RE: huh? financial news for bmc ?

2013-05-21 Thread Stanley Feinstein
Al,

That's funny.  A long time ago, I worked for a large company.  They 
re-organized the sales territories and I was given some new accounts.  I 
visited them with the old sales rep, and at one, the manager took my card, 
turned it over, and started to write on it.  I asked him what he was writing.  
He said: Today's date.  I want to see how long you're going to be with the 
company.  I was gone within a couple of months.

Stan
w. 310-230-1722.
c. 310-428-5748.

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Subject: Re: Dilbert RE: huh? financial news for bmc ?

I've got a little award on my desk from a previous employer that says 
Something to Believe In along with a date on it. They wanted us to believe 
they would still be in business on that date. Instead, within three years they 
were bought by First Union Bank who merged later with Wachovia. If you know 
which banks suffered during the financial meltdown and how their issues were 
resolved you might understand why I keep this award as a reminder to think for 
myself. 8)

No matter what happens to the companies and product lines we support, always 
beware of marketing hype. Some of it is too positive and some  is too negative. 
We will see how this works out anyway.

This cartoon goes into my folder of 'appreciation' awards, but I think 
cash-value is expecting too much. 
I just want the stories I need for my resume, future job interviews, and other 
sales pitches. I already know how to turn the stories into cash. 8)

-al

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Sent: Tuesday, May 21, 2013 1:59 PM
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Subject: OT: Dilbert RE: huh? financial news for bmc ?

Speaking of rewards these days! - Dilbert on Sunday was classic!

http://dilbert.com/fast/2013-05-19/



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