Re: Disabling all fileds in a form (UNCLASSIFIED)
Classification: UNCLASSIFIED Caveats: NONE Hello, A little used "feature" of this discussion is what Rick Cook said earlier: "you can have 25 actions on the same AL" Yes each Active Link can have 25 actions. If you use the same Run If criteria and make several Active links (with the same execution order or 1,2,3,4), you can do more than 25 actions by adding new ALs and the result is doing 25, 50, 75, 100 . Or as many as you want. Gordon M. Frank DISA\Version FNS -Original Message- From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Rick Cook Sent: Thursday, November 22, 2007 5:24 PM To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG Subject: Re: Disabling all fileds in a form Wouldn't that Guide still be calling the same AL(s)? Why add a layer of overhead to it, unless it was needed as a subroutine to use from other places? Rick -Original Message- From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Carey Matthew Black Sent: Thursday, November 22, 2007 1:15 PM To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG Subject: Re: Disabling all fileds in a form Well... Or one active link action could call a guide. That guide could have as many active links/actions needed to disable/enable as many fields as you want. Your guide could even be setup to loop over a hidden table field and dynamically change fields attributes. (Hidden/disable ect...) based on the data in the table field. So you could configure your data into groups (via some kind of tag in the data) that an external qualification could use to select the correct records for that trip to the guide. Sure it is not "just one action", but it can be done in very few total active links with data supporting flexibility and run time configuration changes too. Just a thought or three. And.. to all of you who take part in that great American tradition of eating way, way to much once a year (yea, right) Happy Thanksgiving to all. Now put down that fork and get back to making those active links. :) -- Carey Matthew Black Remedy Skilled Professional (RSP) ARS = Action Request System(Remedy) Love, then teach Solution = People + Process + Tools Fast, Accurate, Cheap Pick two. On Nov 22, 2007 2:30 PM, Rick Cook <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > ** > > Nope - change fields only allow one field per action. However, you > can have > 25 actions on the same AL, so to the user, the difference is transparent. > Doesn't matter where on the form the fields are. > > Rick > > From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Marek Marek > Sent: Thursday, November 22, 2007 11:07 AM > To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG > Subject: Disabling all fileds in a form > > ** > Hi listeners, > > Is there any way of disabling all fields with one action of an Active Link. > These fields are located on a few tabs and cannot be just hidden but > disabled. > Any help would be appreciated. > Thanks ___ UNSUBSCRIBE or access ARSlist Archives at www.arslist.org Platinum Sponsor: www.rmsportal.com ARSlist: "Where the Answers Are" ___ UNSUBSCRIBE or access ARSlist Archives at www.arslist.org Platinum Sponsor: www.rmsportal.com ARSlist: "Where the Answers Are" Classification: UNCLASSIFIED Caveats: NONE ___ UNSUBSCRIBE or access ARSlist Archives at www.arslist.org Platinum Sponsor: www.rmsportal.com ARSlist: "Where the Answers Are"
Re: Disabling all fileds in a form
Hi Marek, I have a ACTL-generator called RRR|ChangeField that will create one (or more if needed) active links to change your fields: https://www.rrr.se/cgi/div/changefield Just export your the def of your form and the tool will generate the active links needed depending on the fields in your form. You can set a number of different filters such as: - Change visible fields only - Change fields with ReadWrite-access only - Change data-fields only - etc. You can set Visibility to Hide/Show or Access to ReadOnly/ReadWrite/Disabled. The result is an ACTL-GUIDE and one or more ACTL attached to this guide. Just import the definitions and call the guide to perform the changes. Best Regards - Misi, RRR AB, http://rrr.se > Hi listeners, > > Is there any way of disabling all fields with one action of an Active > Link. > These fields are located on a few tabs and cannot be just hidden > but disabled. > Any help would be appreciated. > Thanks > > ___ > UNSUBSCRIBE or access ARSlist Archives at www.arslist.org > Platinum Sponsor: www.rmsportal.com ARSlist: "Where the Answers Are" > ___ UNSUBSCRIBE or access ARSlist Archives at www.arslist.org Platinum Sponsor: www.rmsportal.com ARSlist: "Where the Answers Are"
Re: Disabling all fileds in a form
Listers, Can a Attachment pool be made "disabled". We have a hidden field called ztmp_flag, based on its value, the fields are enabled/disabled. I have been able to disable all character/ integer/buttons. I am unable to disable the attachment pool. Is there any way to do this ? ARS 7.1 on AIX 5.3 Oracle 10 R2 as the database. Websphere 1.6 Regards, Sumeet Das On Nov 25, 7:28 am, Rod Harris <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hi Marek, > If it is all fields you want disabled you could close the form and call > an open window to re-open it in "display" mode. > > The ideas mentioned around walking table fields listing the fields you > want to disable are probably best if you don't want to disable every > field. > > Rod > > > > -Original Message- > From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Marek Marek > Sent: Friday, 23 November 2007 4:07 AM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: Disabling all fileds in a form > > ** > Hi listeners, > > Is there any way of disabling all fields with one action of an > Active Link. > These fields are located on a few tabs and cannot be just hidden > but disabled. > Any help would be appreciated. > Thanks > __20060125___This posting was submitted with > HTML in it___ > > ___- > UNSUBSCRIBE or access ARSlist Archives atwww.arslist.org > Platinum Sponsor:www.rmsportal.comARSlist: "Where the Answers Are"- Hide > quoted text - > > - Show quoted text - ___ UNSUBSCRIBE or access ARSlist Archives at www.arslist.org Platinum Sponsor: www.rmsportal.com ARSlist: "Where the Answers Are"
Re: Disabling all fileds in a form
Hi Marek, If it is all fields you want disabled you could close the form and call an open window to re-open it in "display" mode. The ideas mentioned around walking table fields listing the fields you want to disable are probably best if you don't want to disable every field. Rod -Original Message- From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Marek Marek Sent: Friday, 23 November 2007 4:07 AM To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG Subject: Disabling all fileds in a form ** Hi listeners, Is there any way of disabling all fields with one action of an Active Link. These fields are located on a few tabs and cannot be just hidden but disabled. Any help would be appreciated. Thanks __20060125___This posting was submitted with HTML in it___ ___ UNSUBSCRIBE or access ARSlist Archives at www.arslist.org Platinum Sponsor: www.rmsportal.com ARSlist: "Where the Answers Are"
Re: Disabling all fileds in a form
Yes.. and then some. ( But apparently I did not do a great job of explain it... I will try again...) I said: " loop over a hidden table field and dynamically change fields attributes. (Hidden/disable ect...) based on the data in the table field. So you could configure your data into groups (via some kind of tag in the data) that an external qualification could use to select the correct records for that trip to the guide. " However the data in the table could also specify what should be done to the field that is listed too. (So the data could be used to do more than "just disable" the field.) So each row in this "change field action table" could define the field ID, and what to do with the field. (Hide and/or Disable and/or Change Label and/or Change font etc..) I think the only limit to how configurable the guide can be is only limited by the size/variety of the active links you put in the guide. I think the active links could be field ID generic (and fetched from a column of the table field) any only as specific as they need to be to be able to specify the each attribute to be changed. [Mostly because some of the "Advanced Change field" actions can not be specified as a "field reference". So, for example, there might be some limits to how many colors you want to support to keep the size of the guide as small as possible.] So... once built.. and attached to a given form... then any combination of changes could be made from setting a field to the "set of records to use" and then calling the guide. This technique could be used at any point in the workflow from any active link. (Window Loaded, on Button, On Return, etc..) Yes there is more run time overhead to this, but it also lets you alter the field changes based on the users Group List too. :) So the requirements could be much more complex without a need to alter the workflow. Also as new fields are added to the form, then new records are added and one more loop through the guide is needed. However, no workflow changes would be needed. All in all, I think data is easier to maintain than change field actions. -- Carey Matthew Black Remedy Skilled Professional (RSP) ARS = Action Request System(Remedy) Love, then teach Solution = People + Process + Tools Fast, Accurate, Cheap Pick two. On Nov 23, 2007 2:48 AM, Shyam Attavar <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I believe Matt is alluding to having a data driven setup that walks a table > to disable the fields (list of fields to be disabled are specified in > another form) and would require a AL Call Guide to loop over the table field > entries and the guide itself will have an AL with one action to disable the > field. > > If one chooses to hard code the list of fields in the AL action(s), then > what you are suggesting makes sense... > > Cheers, > -- > Shyam > > - Original Message - > From: "Rick Cook" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Newsgroups: gmane.comp.crm.arsystem.general > To: > Sent: Thursday, November 22, 2007 2:23 PM > Subject: Re: Disabling all fileds in a form > > > > Wouldn't that Guide still be calling the same AL(s)? Why add a layer of > > overhead to it, unless it was needed as a subroutine to use from other > > places? > > > > Rick ___ UNSUBSCRIBE or access ARSlist Archives at www.arslist.org Platinum Sponsor: www.rmsportal.com ARSlist: "Where the Answers Are"
Re: Disabling all fileds in a form
I believe Matt is alluding to having a data driven setup that walks a table to disable the fields (list of fields to be disabled are specified in another form) and would require a AL Call Guide to loop over the table field entries and the guide itself will have an AL with one action to disable the field. If one chooses to hard code the list of fields in the AL action(s), then what you are suggesting makes sense... Cheers, -- Shyam - Original Message - From: "Rick Cook" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Newsgroups: gmane.comp.crm.arsystem.general To: Sent: Thursday, November 22, 2007 2:23 PM Subject: Re: Disabling all fileds in a form Wouldn't that Guide still be calling the same AL(s)? Why add a layer of overhead to it, unless it was needed as a subroutine to use from other places? Rick -Original Message- From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Carey Matthew Black Sent: Thursday, November 22, 2007 1:15 PM To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG Subject: Re: Disabling all fileds in a form Well... Or one active link action could call a guide. That guide could have as many active links/actions needed to disable/enable as many fields as you want. Your guide could even be setup to loop over a hidden table field and dynamically change fields attributes. (Hidden/disable ect...) based on the data in the table field. So you could configure your data into groups (via some kind of tag in the data) that an external qualification could use to select the correct records for that trip to the guide. Sure it is not "just one action", but it can be done in very few total active links with data supporting flexibility and run time configuration changes too. Just a thought or three. And.. to all of you who take part in that great American tradition of eating way, way to much once a year (yea, right) Happy Thanksgiving to all. Now put down that fork and get back to making those active links. :) -- Carey Matthew Black Remedy Skilled Professional (RSP) ARS = Action Request System(Remedy) Love, then teach Solution = People + Process + Tools Fast, Accurate, Cheap Pick two. On Nov 22, 2007 2:30 PM, Rick Cook <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: ** Nope - change fields only allow one field per action. However, you can have 25 actions on the same AL, so to the user, the difference is transparent. Doesn't matter where on the form the fields are. Rick From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Marek Marek Sent: Thursday, November 22, 2007 11:07 AM To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG Subject: Disabling all fileds in a form ** Hi listeners, Is there any way of disabling all fields with one action of an Active Link. These fields are located on a few tabs and cannot be just hidden but disabled. Any help would be appreciated. Thanks ___ UNSUBSCRIBE or access ARSlist Archives at www.arslist.org Platinum Sponsor: www.rmsportal.com ARSlist: "Where the Answers Are" ___ UNSUBSCRIBE or access ARSlist Archives at www.arslist.org Platinum Sponsor: www.rmsportal.com ARSlist: "Where the Answers Are"
Re: Disabling all fileds in a form
Wouldn't that Guide still be calling the same AL(s)? Why add a layer of overhead to it, unless it was needed as a subroutine to use from other places? Rick -Original Message- From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Carey Matthew Black Sent: Thursday, November 22, 2007 1:15 PM To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG Subject: Re: Disabling all fileds in a form Well... Or one active link action could call a guide. That guide could have as many active links/actions needed to disable/enable as many fields as you want. Your guide could even be setup to loop over a hidden table field and dynamically change fields attributes. (Hidden/disable ect...) based on the data in the table field. So you could configure your data into groups (via some kind of tag in the data) that an external qualification could use to select the correct records for that trip to the guide. Sure it is not "just one action", but it can be done in very few total active links with data supporting flexibility and run time configuration changes too. Just a thought or three. And.. to all of you who take part in that great American tradition of eating way, way to much once a year (yea, right) Happy Thanksgiving to all. Now put down that fork and get back to making those active links. :) -- Carey Matthew Black Remedy Skilled Professional (RSP) ARS = Action Request System(Remedy) Love, then teach Solution = People + Process + Tools Fast, Accurate, Cheap Pick two. On Nov 22, 2007 2:30 PM, Rick Cook <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > ** > > Nope - change fields only allow one field per action. However, you > can have > 25 actions on the same AL, so to the user, the difference is transparent. > Doesn't matter where on the form the fields are. > > Rick > > From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Marek Marek > Sent: Thursday, November 22, 2007 11:07 AM > To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG > Subject: Disabling all fileds in a form > > ** > Hi listeners, > > Is there any way of disabling all fields with one action of an Active Link. > These fields are located on a few tabs and cannot be just hidden but > disabled. > Any help would be appreciated. > Thanks ___ UNSUBSCRIBE or access ARSlist Archives at www.arslist.org Platinum Sponsor: www.rmsportal.com ARSlist: "Where the Answers Are" ___ UNSUBSCRIBE or access ARSlist Archives at www.arslist.org Platinum Sponsor: www.rmsportal.com ARSlist: "Where the Answers Are"
Re: Disabling all fileds in a form
Well... Or one active link action could call a guide. That guide could have as many active links/actions needed to disable/enable as many fields as you want. Your guide could even be setup to loop over a hidden table field and dynamically change fields attributes. (Hidden/disable ect...) based on the data in the table field. So you could configure your data into groups (via some kind of tag in the data) that an external qualification could use to select the correct records for that trip to the guide. Sure it is not "just one action", but it can be done in very few total active links with data supporting flexibility and run time configuration changes too. Just a thought or three. And.. to all of you who take part in that great American tradition of eating way, way to much once a year (yea, right) Happy Thanksgiving to all. Now put down that fork and get back to making those active links. :) -- Carey Matthew Black Remedy Skilled Professional (RSP) ARS = Action Request System(Remedy) Love, then teach Solution = People + Process + Tools Fast, Accurate, Cheap Pick two. On Nov 22, 2007 2:30 PM, Rick Cook <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > ** > > Nope - change fields only allow one field per action. However, you can have > 25 actions on the same AL, so to the user, the difference is transparent. > Doesn't matter where on the form the fields are. > > Rick > > From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Marek Marek > Sent: Thursday, November 22, 2007 11:07 AM > To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG > Subject: Disabling all fileds in a form > > ** > Hi listeners, > > Is there any way of disabling all fields with one action of an Active Link. > These fields are located on a few tabs and cannot be just hidden but > disabled. > Any help would be appreciated. > Thanks ___ UNSUBSCRIBE or access ARSlist Archives at www.arslist.org Platinum Sponsor: www.rmsportal.com ARSlist: "Where the Answers Are"
Re: Disabling all fileds in a form
Nope - change fields only allow one field per action. However, you can have 25 actions on the same AL, so to the user, the difference is transparent. Doesn't matter where on the form the fields are. Rick _ From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Marek Marek Sent: Thursday, November 22, 2007 11:07 AM To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG Subject: Disabling all fileds in a form ** Hi listeners, Is there any way of disabling all fields with one action of an Active Link. These fields are located on a few tabs and cannot be just hidden but disabled. Any help would be appreciated. Thanks __20060125___This posting was submitted with HTML in it___ ___ UNSUBSCRIBE or access ARSlist Archives at www.arslist.org Platinum Sponsor: www.rmsportal.com ARSlist: "Where the Answers Are"
Disabling all fileds in a form
Hi listeners, Is there any way of disabling all fields with one action of an Active Link. These fields are located on a few tabs and cannot be just hidden but disabled. Any help would be appreciated. Thanks ___ UNSUBSCRIBE or access ARSlist Archives at www.arslist.org Platinum Sponsor: www.rmsportal.com ARSlist: "Where the Answers Are"
