Incident Management Permissions 7.0 patch 2

2006-10-17 Thread Pam Hollis
I am building our Test Box with the New ARSystem 7.0.1 and ITSM Suite 7.0 
Patch 2 - everything was working fine - but now the permissions on the 
Incident Managment are not working - (Incident User, Viewer, Master, Admin 
etc) - they are there but when assign to People it is like those users do 
not have permissions.  

I have tried reinstalling Incident Managment but receive fatel errors due 
to the version.

Any ideas.

Oracle 10g
Linux Red Hat System

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Re: Incident Management Permissions 7.0 patch 2

2006-10-17 Thread Colleen M. Eilbert

Pam,
What is the error message you receive if any?  Is it coming from the 
server or from workflow? Or are they just unable to login?
Here are a couple things to validate - does the data in the Person entry 
match the data in the User entry? particularly regarding group 
permissions, login and license type?  Are there entries in 
CTM:PeoplePermissionGroups for people and their permissions.  Should be 
1 per person per group for ITSM type groups (not for Administrator or 
other non-ITSM groups.)
It's strange that it worked at first and stopped.  That would make me 
suspect a licensing issue.  If you have permissions to be everything 
under the sun (AR Goddess), but your license suddenly becomes a read 
license, you look like an AR Nobody to the system.

Hope that helps.
Colleen Eilbert
Effective Technologies

Pam Hollis wrote:
I am building our Test Box with the New ARSystem 7.0.1 and ITSM Suite 7.0 
Patch 2 - everything was working fine - but now the permissions on the 
Incident Managment are not working - (Incident User, Viewer, Master, Admin 
etc) - they are there but when assign to People it is like those users do 
not have permissions.  

I have tried reinstalling Incident Managment but receive fatel errors due 
to the version.


Any ideas.

Oracle 10g
Linux Red Hat System

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Re: Incident Management Permissions 7.0 patch 2

2006-10-17 Thread Pam Hollis
The reason it stopped working is I was trying to get a Role setup and
was having problems and believe they got corrupted. - but not 100% sure.
You don't get an error message - unless the forms doesn't have any other
permissions and then you get the message stating that the User isn't
Licensed for that Form.  But, otherwise if it has Public permissions or
another permission the user is a member of - it comes up fine.  The
problem is that the forms/applications do not display on the Home Page
or the navigation links either - unless they have Public permissions.
It is very weird.  We are trying to reinstall Incident but get a fatel
error message that my version is different.

Pam Hollis
Senior Programmer - Remedy
Tractor Supply Company
(615 )366-4617 (telephone)
(615) 277-4617 (fax)

-Original Message-
From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList)
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Colleen M. Eilbert
Sent: Tuesday, October 17, 2006 9:23 AM
To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
Subject: Re: Incident Management Permissions 7.0 patch 2

Pam,
What is the error message you receive if any?  Is it coming from the 
server or from workflow? Or are they just unable to login?
Here are a couple things to validate - does the data in the Person entry

match the data in the User entry? particularly regarding group 
permissions, login and license type?  Are there entries in 
CTM:PeoplePermissionGroups for people and their permissions.  Should be 
1 per person per group for ITSM type groups (not for Administrator or 
other non-ITSM groups.)
It's strange that it worked at first and stopped.  That would make me 
suspect a licensing issue.  If you have permissions to be everything 
under the sun (AR Goddess), but your license suddenly becomes a read 
license, you look like an AR Nobody to the system.
Hope that helps.
Colleen Eilbert
Effective Technologies

Pam Hollis wrote:
> I am building our Test Box with the New ARSystem 7.0.1 and ITSM Suite
7.0 
> Patch 2 - everything was working fine - but now the permissions on the

> Incident Managment are not working - (Incident User, Viewer, Master,
Admin 
> etc) - they are there but when assign to People it is like those users
do 
> not have permissions.  
> 
> I have tried reinstalling Incident Managment but receive fatel errors
due 
> to the version.
> 
> Any ideas.
> 
> Oracle 10g
> Linux Red Hat System
> 
>

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Re: Incident Management Permissions 7.0 patch 2

2006-10-17 Thread Colleen M. Eilbert

Pam,

A reinstall of Incident is a pretty big hammer to use on this problem.  
If you really want to do it, you can probably fool the install into 
proceeding by deleting (back them up first) the Incident Management 
related records from the SHARE:Application_Properties form.  I do NOT  
actually recommend this though.  I would guess that you will get a boat 
load of dup data errors and will very likely end up with duplicate 
configuration data.   You are likely to have bigger problems than the 
permissions issue.  In general, unless you can go back to a db backup of 
what the system looked like just prior to install of the app (losing all 
modifications made after install), then a reinstall of the app is not a 
good idea.  I'm not speaking from direct experience with IM 7.0... just 
Remedy apps installs in general.


The second reason not to do that is that if there is some role/group 
corruption that got created during your config process, it will likely 
still be there (unless you start with a pre-IM db backup.)  The new 
install will not delete groups/roles that are already there.


The incident app is made up of a collection of deployable applications.  
If you've defined a new role, it might help things to add that role to 
the list of groups/roles permissions for those applications... ???  This 
is just a wild guess on my part - but something to try.


Colleen Eilbert
Consultant
Effective Technologies


Pam Hollis wrote:

The reason it stopped working is I was trying to get a Role setup and
was having problems and believe they got corrupted. - but not 100% sure.
You don't get an error message - unless the forms doesn't have any other
permissions and then you get the message stating that the User isn't
Licensed for that Form.  But, otherwise if it has Public permissions or
another permission the user is a member of - it comes up fine.  The
problem is that the forms/applications do not display on the Home Page
or the navigation links either - unless they have Public permissions.
It is very weird.  We are trying to reinstall Incident but get a fatel
error message that my version is different.

Pam Hollis
Senior Programmer - Remedy
Tractor Supply Company
(615 )366-4617 (telephone)
(615) 277-4617 (fax)

-Original Message-
From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList)
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Colleen M. Eilbert
Sent: Tuesday, October 17, 2006 9:23 AM
To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
Subject: Re: Incident Management Permissions 7.0 patch 2

Pam,
What is the error message you receive if any?  Is it coming from the 
server or from workflow? Or are they just unable to login?

Here are a couple things to validate - does the data in the Person entry

match the data in the User entry? particularly regarding group 
permissions, login and license type?  Are there entries in 
CTM:PeoplePermissionGroups for people and their permissions.  Should be 
1 per person per group for ITSM type groups (not for Administrator or 
other non-ITSM groups.)
It's strange that it worked at first and stopped.  That would make me 
suspect a licensing issue.  If you have permissions to be everything 
under the sun (AR Goddess), but your license suddenly becomes a read 
license, you look like an AR Nobody to the system.

Hope that helps.
Colleen Eilbert
Effective Technologies

Pam Hollis wrote:
  

I am building our Test Box with the New ARSystem 7.0.1 and ITSM Suite

7.0 
  

Patch 2 - everything was working fine - but now the permissions on the



  

Incident Managment are not working - (Incident User, Viewer, Master,

Admin 
  

etc) - they are there but when assign to People it is like those users

do 
  
not have permissions.  


I have tried reinstalling Incident Managment but receive fatel errors

due 
  

to the version.

Any ideas.

Oracle 10g
Linux Red Hat System





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