Re: Java 9 or later for Remedy?
Peter Adams and Mark Walter, Thank you for your information regarding this! I guess we all look forward to future updates on this topic. So how would using the OpenJDK affect things? I presume it will work just fine, but BMC might not want to support the installation? Best Regards - Misi, RRR AB, http://www.rrr.se (http://www.rrr.se) (ARSList MVP 2011) Ask the Remedy Licensing Experts (Best R.O.I. Award at WWRUG10/11/12/13) * RRR|License - Not enough Remedy licenses? Save money by optimizing. * RRR|Log - Performance issues or elusive bugs? Analyze your Remedy logs Find these products, and many free tools and utilities, at http://rrr.se (http://rrr.se) October 10, 2018 4:28 PM, "Adams, Peter" wrote: For Remedy we are on a 6-month release cadence. Last release was in Aug 2018, and next release is planned for end of February. Java 11 support is a topic we are discussing, as stated at https://communities.bmc.com/docs/DOC-108051 (https://communities.bmc.com/docs/DOC-108051) We plan to provide additional details about our plans for Remedy soon. Peter Sr. Director, Product Management Remedy From: ARSList on behalf of Misi Mladoniczky Reply-To: ARSList Date: Wednesday, October 10, 2018 at 7:12 AM To: ARSList Subject: Re: Java 9 or later for Remedy? Hi, Thank you for the information. We now have Java 11 I guess, so I guess it is time for Remedy to move on... A customer of mine is concerned by the fact that the cost of using Java 8 will increase significantly after January 2018 which seems to be corroborated to some extent by the Oracle web site: https://www.oracle.com/technetwork/java/javase/eol-135779.html (https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__www.oracle.com_technetwork_java_javase_eol-2D135779.html=DwMFaQ=UrUhmHsiTVT5qkaA4d_oSzcamb9hmamiCDMzBAEwC7E=-p3bdWG7vYdkTt7drxJU1lGabyBnkFDsCeyI4HR-08o=qg42Ckl4SbvzrsM2PP_B7Jklakv941_rPGfjttogRkE=mm6szX2W9V8hIb3_8mq-xnhS9mAg3xA4lOOdJp6RFRs=) So when is the next release of Remedy due, and are they working on Java 11 support? Best Regards - Misi, RRR AB, http://www.rrr.se (https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__www.rrr.se=DwMFaQ=UrUhmHsiTVT5qkaA4d_oSzcamb9hmamiCDMzBAEwC7E=-p3bdWG7vYdkTt7drxJU1lGabyBnkFDsCeyI4HR-08o=qg42Ckl4SbvzrsM2PP_B7Jklakv941_rPGfjttogRkE=ORJIQJjTvLIVWwc9lUYPaQuTqK2ZfdbGKgCcdDL7LQo=) (ARSList MVP 2011) Ask the Remedy Licensing Experts (Best R.O.I. Award at WWRUG10/11/12/13) * RRR|License - Not enough Remedy licenses? Save money by optimizing. * RRR|Log - Performance issues or elusive bugs? Analyze your Remedy logs Find these products, and many free tools and utilities, at http://rrr.se (https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__rrr.se=DwMFaQ=UrUhmHsiTVT5qkaA4d_oSzcamb9hmamiCDMzBAEwC7E=-p3bdWG7vYdkTt7drxJU1lGabyBnkFDsCeyI4HR-08o=qg42Ckl4SbvzrsM2PP_B7Jklakv941_rPGfjttogRkE=yTatHgIZPD1vZ1YK-lYd8golAzQp598abHX9yZDsLeM=) October 10, 2018 2:20 PM, "Walters, Mark" wrote: Yes, the server won’t start Java 9 for some reason and, as both 9 and 10 are short term support versions, I don’t think there’s going to be much effort to fix this. My understanding is that changes will be made for Java 11 in a future release. Mark From: ARSList [mailto:arslist-boun...@arslist.org (mailto:mailto:arslist-boun...@arslist.org)] On Behalf Of Misi Mladoniczky Sent: 10 October 2018 13:06 To: arslist@arslist.org (mailto:arslist@arslist.org) Subject: Java 9 or later for Remedy? Hi, The compatibility matrix for version 18.08 of Remedy AR System Server states that: "Java 9 (or higher) is not supported for any version of Remedy AR System across any platform/operating system." Has anyone tried to run it on version 9 (or higher)? Best Regards - Misi, RRR AB, http://www.rrr.se (https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__www.rrr.se=DwMFaQ=UrUhmHsiTVT5qkaA4d_oSzcamb9hmamiCDMzBAEwC7E=tPMpdg1l8D1lzyzE-xoa0XrGmcAGt3781EL-e9dAnSw=0yGv9Wd0XoCWGKIHRB2X1fELGrWNZb5Y_13lNccE1UY=6R0dtePHpj0CserbXbZyOK3qIfkyeHtZ8TAQ6j_1EZs=) (ARSList MVP 2011) Ask the Remedy Licensing Experts (Best R.O.I. Award at WWRUG10/11/12/13) * RRR|License - Not enough Remedy licenses? Save money by optimizing. * RRR|Log - Performance issues or elusive bugs? Analyze your Remedy logs Find these products, and many free tools and utilities, at http://rrr.se (https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__rrr.se=DwMFaQ=UrUhmHsiTVT5qkaA4d_oSzcamb9hmamiCDMzBAEwC7E=tPMpdg1l8D1lzyzE-xoa0XrGmcAGt3781EL-e9dAnSw=0yGv9Wd0XoCWGKIHRB2X1fELGrWNZb5Y_13lNccE1UY=t0wSml69FLJ_HGgGeJVRouB7qduzxZnBPI8TgKcYX_k=) BMC Software Limited Registered Office: Building E2, Eskdale Road, Winnersh, Wokingham, Berkshire, United Kingdom, RG41 5TS Registered in England No. 1927903 The content of this email is confidential. If you are not the addressee, you may not distribute, copy or disclose any part of it
Re: Java 9 or later for Remedy?
For Remedy we are on a 6-month release cadence. Last release was in Aug 2018, and next release is planned for end of February. Java 11 support is a topic we are discussing, as stated at https://communities.bmc.com/docs/DOC-108051 We plan to provide additional details about our plans for Remedy soon. Peter Sr. Director, Product Management Remedy From: ARSList on behalf of Misi Mladoniczky Reply-To: ARSList Date: Wednesday, October 10, 2018 at 7:12 AM To: ARSList Subject: Re: Java 9 or later for Remedy? Hi, Thank you for the information. We now have Java 11 I guess, so I guess it is time for Remedy to move on... A customer of mine is concerned by the fact that the cost of using Java 8 will increase significantly after January 2018 which seems to be corroborated to some extent by the Oracle web site: https://www.oracle.com/technetwork/java/javase/eol-135779.html<https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__www.oracle.com_technetwork_java_javase_eol-2D135779.html=DwMFaQ=UrUhmHsiTVT5qkaA4d_oSzcamb9hmamiCDMzBAEwC7E=-p3bdWG7vYdkTt7drxJU1lGabyBnkFDsCeyI4HR-08o=qg42Ckl4SbvzrsM2PP_B7Jklakv941_rPGfjttogRkE=mm6szX2W9V8hIb3_8mq-xnhS9mAg3xA4lOOdJp6RFRs=> So when is the next release of Remedy due, and are they working on Java 11 support? Best Regards - Misi, RRR AB, http://www.rrr.se<https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__www.rrr.se=DwMFaQ=UrUhmHsiTVT5qkaA4d_oSzcamb9hmamiCDMzBAEwC7E=-p3bdWG7vYdkTt7drxJU1lGabyBnkFDsCeyI4HR-08o=qg42Ckl4SbvzrsM2PP_B7Jklakv941_rPGfjttogRkE=ORJIQJjTvLIVWwc9lUYPaQuTqK2ZfdbGKgCcdDL7LQo=> (ARSList MVP 2011) Ask the Remedy Licensing Experts (Best R.O.I. Award at WWRUG10/11/12/13) * RRR|License - Not enough Remedy licenses? Save money by optimizing. * RRR|Log - Performance issues or elusive bugs? Analyze your Remedy logs Find these products, and many free tools and utilities, at http://rrr.se<https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__rrr.se=DwMFaQ=UrUhmHsiTVT5qkaA4d_oSzcamb9hmamiCDMzBAEwC7E=-p3bdWG7vYdkTt7drxJU1lGabyBnkFDsCeyI4HR-08o=qg42Ckl4SbvzrsM2PP_B7Jklakv941_rPGfjttogRkE=yTatHgIZPD1vZ1YK-lYd8golAzQp598abHX9yZDsLeM=> October 10, 2018 2:20 PM, "Walters, Mark" mailto:%22Walters,%20mark%22%20%3cmark_walt...@bmc.com%3e>> wrote: Yes, the server won’t start Java 9 for some reason and, as both 9 and 10 are short term support versions, I don’t think there’s going to be much effort to fix this. My understanding is that changes will be made for Java 11 in a future release. Mark From: ARSList [mailto:arslist-boun...@arslist.org<mailto:mailto:arslist-boun...@arslist.org>] On Behalf Of Misi Mladoniczky Sent: 10 October 2018 13:06 To: arslist@arslist.org<mailto:arslist@arslist.org> Subject: Java 9 or later for Remedy? Hi, The compatibility matrix for version 18.08 of Remedy AR System Server states that: "Java 9 (or higher) is not supported for any version of Remedy AR System across any platform/operating system." Has anyone tried to run it on version 9 (or higher)? Best Regards - Misi, RRR AB, http://www.rrr.se<https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__www.rrr.se=DwMFaQ=UrUhmHsiTVT5qkaA4d_oSzcamb9hmamiCDMzBAEwC7E=tPMpdg1l8D1lzyzE-xoa0XrGmcAGt3781EL-e9dAnSw=0yGv9Wd0XoCWGKIHRB2X1fELGrWNZb5Y_13lNccE1UY=6R0dtePHpj0CserbXbZyOK3qIfkyeHtZ8TAQ6j_1EZs=> (ARSList MVP 2011) Ask the Remedy Licensing Experts (Best R.O.I. Award at WWRUG10/11/12/13) * RRR|License - Not enough Remedy licenses? Save money by optimizing. * RRR|Log - Performance issues or elusive bugs? Analyze your Remedy logs Find these products, and many free tools and utilities, at http://rrr.se<https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__rrr.se=DwMFaQ=UrUhmHsiTVT5qkaA4d_oSzcamb9hmamiCDMzBAEwC7E=tPMpdg1l8D1lzyzE-xoa0XrGmcAGt3781EL-e9dAnSw=0yGv9Wd0XoCWGKIHRB2X1fELGrWNZb5Y_13lNccE1UY=t0wSml69FLJ_HGgGeJVRouB7qduzxZnBPI8TgKcYX_k=> BMC Software Limited Registered Office: Building E2, Eskdale Road, Winnersh, Wokingham, Berkshire, United Kingdom, RG41 5TS Registered in England No. 1927903 The content of this email is confidential. If you are not the addressee, you may not distribute, copy or disclose any part of it. If you receive this message in error, please delete this from your system and notify the sender immediately. -- ARSList mailing list ARSList@arslist.org https://mailman.rrr.se/cgi/listinfo/arslist
RE: Java 9 or later for Remedy?
Regarding BMC’s position on the Java licensing changes – see https://communities.bmc.com/docs/DOC-108051 I’m afraid I can’t comment on upcoming releases but you would hope it would be around the time the Java changes come into effect ☺ From: ARSList [mailto:arslist-boun...@arslist.org] On Behalf Of Misi Mladoniczky Sent: 10 October 2018 15:09 To: ARSList Subject: Re: Java 9 or later for Remedy? Hi, Thank you for the information. We now have Java 11 I guess, so I guess it is time for Remedy to move on... A customer of mine is concerned by the fact that the cost of using Java 8 will increase significantly after January 2018 which seems to be corroborated to some extent by the Oracle web site: https://www.oracle.com/technetwork/java/javase/eol-135779.html<https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__www.oracle.com_technetwork_java_javase_eol-2D135779.html=DwMFaQ=UrUhmHsiTVT5qkaA4d_oSzcamb9hmamiCDMzBAEwC7E=tPMpdg1l8D1lzyzE-xoa0XrGmcAGt3781EL-e9dAnSw=P5AraPKciRbxdRViV0ujBDH3-rWDsaaZDJic_jLZyjU=vPYRL_1OI4puDqQn_-UbDxfSSriQAh5tfTqObz7NCEY=> So when is the next release of Remedy due, and are they working on Java 11 support? Best Regards - Misi, RRR AB, http://www.rrr.se<https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__www.rrr.se=DwMFaQ=UrUhmHsiTVT5qkaA4d_oSzcamb9hmamiCDMzBAEwC7E=tPMpdg1l8D1lzyzE-xoa0XrGmcAGt3781EL-e9dAnSw=P5AraPKciRbxdRViV0ujBDH3-rWDsaaZDJic_jLZyjU=zxYKNcqr87bJQaM-6BAuVGgLASPAKIjVKhYhuPCz_4k=> (ARSList MVP 2011) Ask the Remedy Licensing Experts (Best R.O.I. Award at WWRUG10/11/12/13) * RRR|License - Not enough Remedy licenses? Save money by optimizing. * RRR|Log - Performance issues or elusive bugs? Analyze your Remedy logs Find these products, and many free tools and utilities, at http://rrr.se<https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__rrr.se=DwMFaQ=UrUhmHsiTVT5qkaA4d_oSzcamb9hmamiCDMzBAEwC7E=tPMpdg1l8D1lzyzE-xoa0XrGmcAGt3781EL-e9dAnSw=P5AraPKciRbxdRViV0ujBDH3-rWDsaaZDJic_jLZyjU=56vGw8mxqNl1a2RUdbRk26ZwrfAvO9O04-xJiQ59FVU=> October 10, 2018 2:20 PM, "Walters, Mark" mailto:%22Walters,%20mark%22%20%3cmark_walt...@bmc.com%3e>> wrote: Yes, the server won’t start Java 9 for some reason and, as both 9 and 10 are short term support versions, I don’t think there’s going to be much effort to fix this. My understanding is that changes will be made for Java 11 in a future release. Mark From: ARSList [mailto:arslist-boun...@arslist.org<mailto:mailto:arslist-boun...@arslist.org>] On Behalf Of Misi Mladoniczky Sent: 10 October 2018 13:06 To: arslist@arslist.org<mailto:arslist@arslist.org> Subject: Java 9 or later for Remedy? Hi, The compatibility matrix for version 18.08 of Remedy AR System Server states that: "Java 9 (or higher) is not supported for any version of Remedy AR System across any platform/operating system." Has anyone tried to run it on version 9 (or higher)? Best Regards - Misi, RRR AB, http://www.rrr.se<https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__www.rrr.se=DwMFaQ=UrUhmHsiTVT5qkaA4d_oSzcamb9hmamiCDMzBAEwC7E=tPMpdg1l8D1lzyzE-xoa0XrGmcAGt3781EL-e9dAnSw=0yGv9Wd0XoCWGKIHRB2X1fELGrWNZb5Y_13lNccE1UY=6R0dtePHpj0CserbXbZyOK3qIfkyeHtZ8TAQ6j_1EZs=> (ARSList MVP 2011) Ask the Remedy Licensing Experts (Best R.O.I. Award at WWRUG10/11/12/13) * RRR|License - Not enough Remedy licenses? Save money by optimizing. * RRR|Log - Performance issues or elusive bugs? Analyze your Remedy logs Find these products, and many free tools and utilities, at http://rrr.se<https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__rrr.se=DwMFaQ=UrUhmHsiTVT5qkaA4d_oSzcamb9hmamiCDMzBAEwC7E=tPMpdg1l8D1lzyzE-xoa0XrGmcAGt3781EL-e9dAnSw=0yGv9Wd0XoCWGKIHRB2X1fELGrWNZb5Y_13lNccE1UY=t0wSml69FLJ_HGgGeJVRouB7qduzxZnBPI8TgKcYX_k=> BMC Software Limited Registered Office: Building E2, Eskdale Road, Winnersh, Wokingham, Berkshire, United Kingdom, RG41 5TS Registered in England No. 1927903 The content of this email is confidential. If you are not the addressee, you may not distribute, copy or disclose any part of it. If you receive this message in error, please delete this from your system and notify the sender immediately. BMC Software Limited Registered Office: Building E2, Eskdale Road, Winnersh, Wokingham, Berkshire, United Kingdom, RG41 5TS Registered in England No. 1927903 The content of this email is confidential. If you are not the addressee, you may not distribute, copy or disclose any part of it. If you receive this message in error, please delete this from your system and notify the sender immediately. -- ARSList mailing list ARSList@arslist.org https://mailman.rrr.se/cgi/listinfo/arslist
Re: Java 9 or later for Remedy?
Hi, Thank you for the information. We now have Java 11 I guess, so I guess it is time for Remedy to move on... A customer of mine is concerned by the fact that the cost of using Java 8 will increase significantly after January 2018 which seems to be corroborated to some extent by the Oracle web site: https://www.oracle.com/technetwork/java/javase/eol-135779.html (https://www.oracle.com/technetwork/java/javase/eol-135779.html) So when is the next release of Remedy due, and are they working on Java 11 support? Best Regards - Misi, RRR AB, http://www.rrr.se (http://www.rrr.se) (ARSList MVP 2011) Ask the Remedy Licensing Experts (Best R.O.I. Award at WWRUG10/11/12/13) * RRR|License - Not enough Remedy licenses? Save money by optimizing. * RRR|Log - Performance issues or elusive bugs? Analyze your Remedy logs Find these products, and many free tools and utilities, at http://rrr.se (http://rrr.se) October 10, 2018 2:20 PM, "Walters, Mark" wrote: Yes, the server won’t start Java 9 for some reason and, as both 9 and 10 are short term support versions, I don’t think there’s going to be much effort to fix this. My understanding is that changes will be made for Java 11 in a future release. Mark From: ARSList [mailto:arslist-boun...@arslist.org (mailto:mailto:arslist-boun...@arslist.org)] On Behalf Of Misi Mladoniczky Sent: 10 October 2018 13:06 To: arslist@arslist.org (mailto:arslist@arslist.org) Subject: Java 9 or later for Remedy? Hi, The compatibility matrix for version 18.08 of Remedy AR System Server states that: "Java 9 (or higher) is not supported for any version of Remedy AR System across any platform/operating system." Has anyone tried to run it on version 9 (or higher)? Best Regards - Misi, RRR AB, http://www.rrr.se (https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__www.rrr.se=DwMFaQ=UrUhmHsiTVT5qkaA4d_oSzcamb9hmamiCDMzBAEwC7E=tPMpdg1l8D1lzyzE-xoa0XrGmcAGt3781EL-e9dAnSw=0yGv9Wd0XoCWGKIHRB2X1fELGrWNZb5Y_13lNccE1UY=6R0dtePHpj0CserbXbZyOK3qIfkyeHtZ8TAQ6j_1EZs=) (ARSList MVP 2011) Ask the Remedy Licensing Experts (Best R.O.I. Award at WWRUG10/11/12/13) * RRR|License - Not enough Remedy licenses? Save money by optimizing. * RRR|Log - Performance issues or elusive bugs? Analyze your Remedy logs Find these products, and many free tools and utilities, at http://rrr.se (https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__rrr.se=DwMFaQ=UrUhmHsiTVT5qkaA4d_oSzcamb9hmamiCDMzBAEwC7E=tPMpdg1l8D1lzyzE-xoa0XrGmcAGt3781EL-e9dAnSw=0yGv9Wd0XoCWGKIHRB2X1fELGrWNZb5Y_13lNccE1UY=t0wSml69FLJ_HGgGeJVRouB7qduzxZnBPI8TgKcYX_k=) BMC Software Limited Registered Office: Building E2, Eskdale Road, Winnersh, Wokingham, Berkshire, United Kingdom, RG41 5TS Registered in England No. 1927903 The content of this email is confidential. If you are not the addressee, you may not distribute, copy or disclose any part of it. If you receive this message in error, please delete this from your system and notify the sender immediately. -- ARSList mailing list ARSList@arslist.org https://mailman.rrr.se/cgi/listinfo/arslist
RE: Java 9 or later for Remedy?
Yes, the server won’t start Java 9 for some reason and, as both 9 and 10 are short term support versions, I don’t think there’s going to be much effort to fix this. My understanding is that changes will be made for Java 11 in a future release. Mark From: ARSList [mailto:arslist-boun...@arslist.org] On Behalf Of Misi Mladoniczky Sent: 10 October 2018 13:06 To: arslist@arslist.org Subject: Java 9 or later for Remedy? Hi, The compatibility matrix for version 18.08 of Remedy AR System Server states that: "Java 9 (or higher) is not supported for any version of Remedy AR System across any platform/operating system." Has anyone tried to run it on version 9 (or higher)? Best Regards - Misi, RRR AB, http://www.rrr.se<https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__www.rrr.se=DwMFaQ=UrUhmHsiTVT5qkaA4d_oSzcamb9hmamiCDMzBAEwC7E=tPMpdg1l8D1lzyzE-xoa0XrGmcAGt3781EL-e9dAnSw=0yGv9Wd0XoCWGKIHRB2X1fELGrWNZb5Y_13lNccE1UY=6R0dtePHpj0CserbXbZyOK3qIfkyeHtZ8TAQ6j_1EZs=> (ARSList MVP 2011) Ask the Remedy Licensing Experts (Best R.O.I. Award at WWRUG10/11/12/13) * RRR|License - Not enough Remedy licenses? Save money by optimizing. * RRR|Log - Performance issues or elusive bugs? Analyze your Remedy logs Find these products, and many free tools and utilities, at http://rrr.se<https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__rrr.se=DwMFaQ=UrUhmHsiTVT5qkaA4d_oSzcamb9hmamiCDMzBAEwC7E=tPMpdg1l8D1lzyzE-xoa0XrGmcAGt3781EL-e9dAnSw=0yGv9Wd0XoCWGKIHRB2X1fELGrWNZb5Y_13lNccE1UY=t0wSml69FLJ_HGgGeJVRouB7qduzxZnBPI8TgKcYX_k=> BMC Software Limited Registered Office: Building E2, Eskdale Road, Winnersh, Wokingham, Berkshire, United Kingdom, RG41 5TS Registered in England No. 1927903 The content of this email is confidential. If you are not the addressee, you may not distribute, copy or disclose any part of it. If you receive this message in error, please delete this from your system and notify the sender immediately. -- ARSList mailing list ARSList@arslist.org https://mailman.rrr.se/cgi/listinfo/arslist
Java 9 or later for Remedy?
Hi, The compatibility matrix for version 18.08 of Remedy AR System Server states that: "Java 9 (or higher) is not supported for any version of Remedy AR System across any platform/operating system." Has anyone tried to run it on version 9 (or higher)? Best Regards - Misi, RRR AB, http://www.rrr.se (http://www.rrr.se) (ARSList MVP 2011) Ask the Remedy Licensing Experts (Best R.O.I. Award at WWRUG10/11/12/13) * RRR|License - Not enough Remedy licenses? Save money by optimizing. * RRR|Log - Performance issues or elusive bugs? Analyze your Remedy logs Find these products, and many free tools and utilities, at http://rrr.se (http://rrr.se) -- ARSList mailing list ARSList@arslist.org https://mailman.rrr.se/cgi/listinfo/arslist
