Re: Keeping the ARSList going as it is.
To your point... I turn off all emails from BMC Communities however I would likely add a "stream" for ARSlist that does email me (each post/reply) and update my email rules to put it in my ARSlist bucket like I have been doing for the last +10 years. My ARSlist flow would basically stay the same. Jason On Fri, Jun 10, 2016 at 10:27 AM arslist <arsl...@danielbloom.ca> wrote: > ** > > Joe et al, > > > > First and foremost: BMC is our friend. It is their software we are experts > in, and yes there are heated discussions at times about the actions or > direction of BMC, but in the end, relative to the flexibility and power of > a set of functionality that has evolved and kept current with changing > technology, IMHO it has no real match. Sadly many companies have chosen to > move to lesser platforms, c’est la vie. However, if we are here, we have > not. Or not entirely yet. > > > > I can’t think of a single reason BMC would want it’s largest Developer > Community to disappear [even if some BMC VPs from time to time wonder why > it exists until it is all explained to them], so I don’t see them risking > our good will by interfering with a discussion group that their management > doesn’t understand anyway, and the BMC folks that do get what we are doing, > are their developers, once again our friends. > > > > To clarify what Stan is doing, or what I thought he was doing: if he could > find a couple of corporate sponsors I would keep the ARSlist running on the > current platform, even if I feel the best route is now BMC:Communities. > > > > I fundamentally do not like personal donations, the people that contribute > the most to the list are the ones that would donate. > > The people that learn and benefit the most from the list sit in the > background and do not volunteer to donate. > > > > [the above statement is based on the people I have heard from who ask if > they can contribute to keep it running on the current platform]. > > > > If we move the list to other’s servers and\or someone else is running the > list, I see no benefits versus moving the ARSlist to communities (and > either me or other non-BMC developers running it there). > > > > It will still be our Community, a community is about the people not the > technology we use to communicate with, it can still send emails, and I > suspect most of you are on BMC:Communities anyway so now you just have to > go to one place when you want to log in and search for information. > > > > I am listening to the concerns in terms of functionality and will work > inside and outside of BMC to try to make it all happen. Archives and > sending of email is easy. Daily Digest at bit more difficult so it might be > a few months before that is in place [I have a few thoughts]. > > > > > > Dan > > Founder of the ARSlist > > Chairman of WWRUG > > > > > > > > > > *From:* Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) [mailto: > arslist@ARSLIST.ORG] *On Behalf Of *Joe D'Souza > *Sent:* June 9, 2016 6:35 PM > > > *To:* arslist@ARSLIST.ORG > *Subject:* Re: Keeping the ARSList going as it is. > > > > ** > > Just did a few moments ago from my personal email.. > > > > Joe > > > -- > > *From:* Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) [ > mailto:arslist@ARSLIST.ORG <arslist@ARSLIST.ORG>] *On Behalf Of *Stan > Feinstein > *Sent:* Tuesday, June 07, 2016 7:44 PM > *To:* arslist@ARSLIST.ORG > *Subject:* Re: Keeping the ARSList going as it is. > > > > Joe, > > > > We are working that off-line. If you’d like to make a contribution, > please contact me at st...@projectremedies.com. I can give you the > details. > > > > Stan > > w. 310-230-1722 > > c. 310-428-5748. > > > _ARSlist: "Where the Answers Are" and have been for 20 years_ ___ UNSUBSCRIBE or access ARSlist Archives at www.arslist.org "Where the Answers Are, and have been for 20 years"
Re: Keeping the ARSList going as it is.
Joe et al, First and foremost: BMC is our friend. It is their software we are experts in, and yes there are heated discussions at times about the actions or direction of BMC, but in the end, relative to the flexibility and power of a set of functionality that has evolved and kept current with changing technology, IMHO it has no real match. Sadly many companies have chosen to move to lesser platforms, c'est la vie. However, if we are here, we have not. Or not entirely yet. I can't think of a single reason BMC would want it's largest Developer Community to disappear [even if some BMC VPs from time to time wonder why it exists until it is all explained to them], so I don't see them risking our good will by interfering with a discussion group that their management doesn't understand anyway, and the BMC folks that do get what we are doing, are their developers, once again our friends. To clarify what Stan is doing, or what I thought he was doing: if he could find a couple of corporate sponsors I would keep the ARSlist running on the current platform, even if I feel the best route is now BMC:Communities. I fundamentally do not like personal donations, the people that contribute the most to the list are the ones that would donate. The people that learn and benefit the most from the list sit in the background and do not volunteer to donate. [the above statement is based on the people I have heard from who ask if they can contribute to keep it running on the current platform]. If we move the list to other's servers and\or someone else is running the list, I see no benefits versus moving the ARSlist to communities (and either me or other non-BMC developers running it there). It will still be our Community, a community is about the people not the technology we use to communicate with, it can still send emails, and I suspect most of you are on BMC:Communities anyway so now you just have to go to one place when you want to log in and search for information. I am listening to the concerns in terms of functionality and will work inside and outside of BMC to try to make it all happen. Archives and sending of email is easy. Daily Digest at bit more difficult so it might be a few months before that is in place [I have a few thoughts]. Dan Founder of the ARSlist Chairman of WWRUG From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) [mailto:arslist@ARSLIST.ORG] On Behalf Of Joe D'Souza Sent: June 9, 2016 6:35 PM To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG Subject: Re: Keeping the ARSList going as it is. ** Just did a few moments ago from my personal email.. Joe _ From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) [mailto:arslist@ARSLIST.ORG] On Behalf Of Stan Feinstein Sent: Tuesday, June 07, 2016 7:44 PM To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG <mailto:arslist@ARSLIST.ORG> Subject: Re: Keeping the ARSList going as it is. Joe, We are working that off-line. If you'd like to make a contribution, please contact me at st...@projectremedies.com <mailto:st...@projectremedies.com> . I can give you the details. Stan w. 310-230-1722 c. 310-428-5748. ___ UNSUBSCRIBE or access ARSlist Archives at www.arslist.org "Where the Answers Are, and have been for 20 years"
Re: Keeping the ARSList going as it is.
Just did a few moments ago from my personal email.. Joe _ From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) [mailto:arslist@ARSLIST.ORG] On Behalf Of Stan Feinstein Sent: Tuesday, June 07, 2016 7:44 PM To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG Subject: Re: Keeping the ARSList going as it is. Joe, We are working that off-line. If you'd like to make a contribution, please contact me at st...@projectremedies.com. I can give you the details. Stan w. 310-230-1722 c. 310-428-5748. From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) [mailto:arslist@ARSLIST.ORG] On Behalf Of Joe D'Souza Sent: Tuesday, June 07, 2016 4:40 PM To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG Subject: Re: Keeping the ARSList going as it is. ** How much does it cost to keep the list running though a financial year? Joe _ From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) [mailto:arslist@ARSLIST.ORG] On Behalf Of Stan Feinstein Sent: Monday, June 06, 2016 8:23 PM To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG Subject: Re: Keeping the ARSList going as it is. Hi Tim, A number of people have expressed interest to me. Let's keep the communication going. Stan w. 310-230-1722 c. 310-428-5748. From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) [mailto:arslist@ARSLIST.ORG] On Behalf Of Timothy Powell Sent: Monday, June 06, 2016 5:17 PM To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG Subject: Re: Keeping the ARSList going as it is. ** Stan, KPBS, Inc is willing to look at this with you. Have emailed you and Dan off list. Tim Powell Vice President KPBS, Inc. From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) [mailto:arslist@ARSLIST.ORG] On Behalf Of Stan Feinstein Sent: Monday, June 06, 2016 5:26 PM To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG Subject: Keeping the ARSList going as it is. ** Everyone, I have the details on the cost of keeping the ARSList going the way it is. If anyone is interested in contributing, please contact me off the list. I need at least 10 companies to contribute. Project Remedies will be one of the companies if others are interested. Thanks. Stan w. 310-230-1722 c. 310-428-5748. _ARSlist: "Where the Answers Are" and have been for 20 years_ _ARSlist: "Where the Answers Are" and have been for 20 years_ _ARSlist: "Where the Answers Are" and have been for 20 years_ _ARSlist: "Where the Answers Are" and have been for 20 years_ _ARSlist: "Where the Answers Are" and have been for 20 years_ ___ UNSUBSCRIBE or access ARSlist Archives at www.arslist.org "Where the Answers Are, and have been for 20 years"
Re: Keeping the ARSList going as it is.
Joe, We are working that off-line. If you'd like to make a contribution, please contact me at st...@projectremedies.com <mailto:st...@projectremedies.com> . I can give you the details. Stan w. 310-230-1722 c. 310-428-5748. From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) [mailto:arslist@ARSLIST.ORG] On Behalf Of Joe D'Souza Sent: Tuesday, June 07, 2016 4:40 PM To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG Subject: Re: Keeping the ARSList going as it is. ** How much does it cost to keep the list running though a financial year? Joe _ From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) [mailto:arslist@ARSLIST.ORG] On Behalf Of Stan Feinstein Sent: Monday, June 06, 2016 8:23 PM To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG <mailto:arslist@ARSLIST.ORG> Subject: Re: Keeping the ARSList going as it is. Hi Tim, A number of people have expressed interest to me. Let's keep the communication going. Stan w. 310-230-1722 c. 310-428-5748. From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) [mailto:arslist@ARSLIST.ORG] On Behalf Of Timothy Powell Sent: Monday, June 06, 2016 5:17 PM To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG <mailto:arslist@ARSLIST.ORG> Subject: Re: Keeping the ARSList going as it is. ** Stan, KPBS, Inc is willing to look at this with you. Have emailed you and Dan off list. Tim Powell Vice President KPBS, Inc. From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) [mailto:arslist@ARSLIST.ORG] On Behalf Of Stan Feinstein Sent: Monday, June 06, 2016 5:26 PM To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG <mailto:arslist@ARSLIST.ORG> Subject: Keeping the ARSList going as it is. ** Everyone, I have the details on the cost of keeping the ARSList going the way it is. If anyone is interested in contributing, please contact me off the list. I need at least 10 companies to contribute. Project Remedies will be one of the companies if others are interested. Thanks. Stan w. 310-230-1722 c. 310-428-5748. _ARSlist: "Where the Answers Are" and have been for 20 years_ _ARSlist: "Where the Answers Are" and have been for 20 years_ _ARSlist: "Where the Answers Are" and have been for 20 years_ _ARSlist: "Where the Answers Are" and have been for 20 years_ ___ UNSUBSCRIBE or access ARSlist Archives at www.arslist.org "Where the Answers Are, and have been for 20 years"
Re: Keeping the ARSList going as it is.
How much does it cost to keep the list running though a financial year? Joe _ From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) [mailto:arslist@ARSLIST.ORG] On Behalf Of Stan Feinstein Sent: Monday, June 06, 2016 8:23 PM To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG Subject: Re: Keeping the ARSList going as it is. Hi Tim, A number of people have expressed interest to me. Let's keep the communication going. Stan w. 310-230-1722 c. 310-428-5748. From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) [mailto:arslist@ARSLIST.ORG] On Behalf Of Timothy Powell Sent: Monday, June 06, 2016 5:17 PM To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG Subject: Re: Keeping the ARSList going as it is. ** Stan, KPBS, Inc is willing to look at this with you. Have emailed you and Dan off list. Tim Powell Vice President KPBS, Inc. From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) [mailto:arslist@ARSLIST.ORG] On Behalf Of Stan Feinstein Sent: Monday, June 06, 2016 5:26 PM To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG Subject: Keeping the ARSList going as it is. ** Everyone, I have the details on the cost of keeping the ARSList going the way it is. If anyone is interested in contributing, please contact me off the list. I need at least 10 companies to contribute. Project Remedies will be one of the companies if others are interested. Thanks. Stan w. 310-230-1722 c. 310-428-5748. _ARSlist: "Where the Answers Are" and have been for 20 years_ _ARSlist: "Where the Answers Are" and have been for 20 years_ _ARSlist: "Where the Answers Are" and have been for 20 years_ ___ UNSUBSCRIBE or access ARSlist Archives at www.arslist.org "Where the Answers Are, and have been for 20 years"
Re: Keeping the ARSList going as it is.
Hi Tim, A number of people have expressed interest to me. Let's keep the communication going. Stan w. 310-230-1722 c. 310-428-5748. From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) [mailto:arslist@ARSLIST.ORG] On Behalf Of Timothy Powell Sent: Monday, June 06, 2016 5:17 PM To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG Subject: Re: Keeping the ARSList going as it is. ** Stan, KPBS, Inc is willing to look at this with you. Have emailed you and Dan off list. Tim Powell Vice President KPBS, Inc. From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) [mailto:arslist@ARSLIST.ORG] On Behalf Of Stan Feinstein Sent: Monday, June 06, 2016 5:26 PM To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG <mailto:arslist@ARSLIST.ORG> Subject: Keeping the ARSList going as it is. ** Everyone, I have the details on the cost of keeping the ARSList going the way it is. If anyone is interested in contributing, please contact me off the list. I need at least 10 companies to contribute. Project Remedies will be one of the companies if others are interested. Thanks. Stan w. 310-230-1722 c. 310-428-5748. _ARSlist: "Where the Answers Are" and have been for 20 years_ _ARSlist: "Where the Answers Are" and have been for 20 years_ ___ UNSUBSCRIBE or access ARSlist Archives at www.arslist.org "Where the Answers Are, and have been for 20 years"
Re: Keeping the ARSList going as it is.
Stan, KPBS, Inc is willing to look at this with you. Have emailed you and Dan off list. Tim Powell Vice President KPBS, Inc. From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) [mailto:arslist@ARSLIST.ORG] On Behalf Of Stan Feinstein Sent: Monday, June 06, 2016 5:26 PM To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG Subject: Keeping the ARSList going as it is. ** Everyone, I have the details on the cost of keeping the ARSList going the way it is. If anyone is interested in contributing, please contact me off the list. I need at least 10 companies to contribute. Project Remedies will be one of the companies if others are interested. Thanks. Stan w. 310-230-1722 c. 310-428-5748. _ARSlist: "Where the Answers Are" and have been for 20 years_ ___ UNSUBSCRIBE or access ARSlist Archives at www.arslist.org "Where the Answers Are, and have been for 20 years"
Keeping the ARSList going as it is.
Everyone, I have the details on the cost of keeping the ARSList going the way it is. If anyone is interested in contributing, please contact me off the list. I need at least 10 companies to contribute. Project Remedies will be one of the companies if others are interested. Thanks. Stan w. 310-230-1722 c. 310-428-5748. ___ UNSUBSCRIBE or access ARSlist Archives at www.arslist.org "Where the Answers Are, and have been for 20 years"
