Naked 8.1 server
If anyone has stripped an 8.1 server of the ITSM and CMDB objects and reverted to naked AR Server for custom-only devleopment, let me know your experiences. ___ UNSUBSCRIBE or access ARSlist Archives at www.arslist.org "Where the Answers Are, and have been for 20 years"
Re: Naked 8.1 server
Hi Ray, We didn't strip it afterwards, but we are custom shop without ITSM and CMDB, so we just installed ARS v8.1. Completed our dev server a couple of weeks ago and it is now cutover from the old v7.5 dev server. They were complete new server builds, HP X86 hardware, Linux, Oracle 11g, ARS 8.1. Building test and prod now. We also did a play server before dev to prove out that the combination of all the new versions would work together since they were all new for this installation. Experience was very good. One of our best ARS version upgrades. We've done several, always building new servers. Not exactly sure what your questions may be. I can't even imagine how'd you strip out ITSM etc since everything links together. Susan On Fri, Aug 23, 2013 at 3:09 PM, Ray Gellenbeck wrote: > If anyone has stripped an 8.1 server of the ITSM and CMDB objects and > reverted to naked AR Server for custom-only devleopment, let me know your > experiences. > > > ___ > UNSUBSCRIBE or access ARSlist Archives at www.arslist.org > "Where the Answers Are, and have been for 20 years" > ___ UNSUBSCRIBE or access ARSlist Archives at www.arslist.org "Where the Answers Are, and have been for 20 years"
Re: Naked 8.1 server
I agree with Susan. The effort to rip out ITSM is probably much more effort than creating a new server and migrating just what you want. Even if you put in the effort to figure out what can go and what needs to stay I still wouldn't be comfortable with that system. There is just too much that can go wrong. Jason On Fri, Aug 23, 2013 at 1:55 PM, Susan Palmer wrote: > ** > Hi Ray, > > We didn't strip it afterwards, but we are custom shop without ITSM and > CMDB, so we just installed ARS v8.1. Completed our dev server a couple of > weeks ago and it is now cutover from the old v7.5 dev server. They were > complete new server builds, HP X86 hardware, Linux, Oracle 11g, ARS 8.1. > Building test and prod now. We also did a play server before dev to prove > out that the combination of all the new versions would work together since > they were all new for this installation. > > Experience was very good. One of our best ARS version upgrades. We've > done several, always building new servers. > > Not exactly sure what your questions may be. I can't even imagine how'd > you strip out ITSM etc since everything links together. > > Susan > > > > On Fri, Aug 23, 2013 at 3:09 PM, Ray Gellenbeck > wrote: > >> If anyone has stripped an 8.1 server of the ITSM and CMDB objects and >> reverted to naked AR Server for custom-only devleopment, let me know your >> experiences. >> >> >> ___ >> UNSUBSCRIBE or access ARSlist Archives at www.arslist.org >> "Where the Answers Are, and have been for 20 years" >> > > _ARSlist: "Where the Answers Are" and have been for 20 years_ ___ UNSUBSCRIBE or access ARSlist Archives at www.arslist.org "Where the Answers Are, and have been for 20 years"
Re: Naked 8.1 server
oh Ye of little faith! But if it's already on the system I agree, what's the point of stripping it out. I would however, shut down things like the reconciliation engine (of course even with using the CMDB, I've done that - it's just way too much overkill for smaller systems. - Original Message - From: "Jason Miller" To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG Sent: Friday, August 23, 2013 5:14:31 PM Subject: Re: Naked 8.1 server ** I agree with Susan. The effort to rip out ITSM is probably much more effort than creating a new server and migrating just what you want. Even if you put in the effort to figure out what can go and what needs to stay I still wouldn't be comfortable with that system. There is just too much that can go wrong. Jason On Fri, Aug 23, 2013 at 1:55 PM, Susan Palmer < suzanpal...@gmail.com > wrote: ** Hi Ray, We didn't strip it afterwards, but we are custom shop without ITSM and CMDB, so we just installed ARS v8.1. Completed our dev server a couple of weeks ago and it is now cutover from the old v7.5 dev server. They were complete new server builds, HP X86 hardware, Linux, Oracle 11g, ARS 8.1. Building test and prod now. We also did a play server before dev to prove out that the combination of all the new versions would work together since they were all new for this installation. Experience was very good. One of our best ARS version upgrades. We've done several, always building new servers. Not exactly sure what your questions may be. I can't even imagine how'd you strip out ITSM etc since everything links together. Susan On Fri, Aug 23, 2013 at 3:09 PM, Ray Gellenbeck < raygellenb...@yahoo.com > wrote: If anyone has stripped an 8.1 server of the ITSM and CMDB objects and reverted to naked AR Server for custom-only devleopment, let me know your experiences. ___ UNSUBSCRIBE or access ARSlist Archives at www.arslist.org "Where the Answers Are, and have been for 20 years" _ARSlist: "Where the Answers Are" and have been for 20 years_ _ARSlist: "Where the Answers Are" and have been for 20 years_ ___ UNSUBSCRIBE or access ARSlist Archives at www.arslist.org "Where the Answers Are, and have been for 20 years"
Re: Naked 8.1 server
I just went through this, bare naked install is like a couple of hours max, itsm is 18 hours, the reverse of that is a waste of time Sent from my iPhone On Aug 23, 2013, at 16:55, Susan Palmer wrote: > ** > Hi Ray, > > We didn't strip it afterwards, but we are custom shop without ITSM and CMDB, > so we just installed ARS v8.1. Completed our dev server a couple of weeks > ago and it is now cutover from the old v7.5 dev server. They were complete > new server builds, HP X86 hardware, Linux, Oracle 11g, ARS 8.1. Building > test and prod now. We also did a play server before dev to prove out that > the combination of all the new versions would work together since they were > all new for this installation. > > Experience was very good. One of our best ARS version upgrades. We've done > several, always building new servers. > > Not exactly sure what your questions may be. I can't even imagine how'd you > strip out ITSM etc since everything links together. > > Susan > > > > On Fri, Aug 23, 2013 at 3:09 PM, Ray Gellenbeck > wrote: >> If anyone has stripped an 8.1 server of the ITSM and CMDB objects and >> reverted to naked AR Server for custom-only devleopment, let me know your >> experiences. >> >> ___ >> UNSUBSCRIBE or access ARSlist Archives at www.arslist.org >> "Where the Answers Are, and have been for 20 years" > > _ARSlist: "Where the Answers Are" and have been for 20 years_ ___ UNSUBSCRIBE or access ARSlist Archives at www.arslist.org "Where the Answers Are, and have been for 20 years"
Re: Naked 8.1 server
thanks to all for the feedback. I was afraid that the 8.1 installer forced you to take ITSM (I obviously haven't taken the time to play yet, hence asking this list). If you can uncheck/leave off ITSM and CMDB etc., so much the better. Thank you all for your feedback and very happy to hear that if bare ARS is still needed, we old crazy people can still get it. We run ROD here at Sony Network Entertainment, but I have an old friend who wants to move to 8.1 on dedicated systems ;) Raymond H. Gellenbeck Manager | Business Service Management Sony Network Entertainment P: 858.207.1563 | M: 619.500.3993 E: raymond.gellenb...@am.sony.com ___ UNSUBSCRIBE or access ARSlist Archives at www.arslist.org "Where the Answers Are, and have been for 20 years"
Re: Naked 8.1 server
Ray, I only downloaded the ARS Server v8.1 option. You do get approval and a few other things but no part of ITSM. The total install took less than 2 hr. Susan On Fri, Aug 23, 2013 at 6:40 PM, Ray Gellenbeck wrote: > thanks to all for the feedback. I was afraid that the 8.1 installer > forced you to take ITSM (I obviously haven't taken the time to play yet, > hence asking this list). If you can uncheck/leave off ITSM and CMDB etc., > so much the better. > > Thank you all for your feedback and very happy to hear that if bare ARS is > still needed, we old crazy people can still get it. We run ROD here at > Sony Network Entertainment, but I have an old friend who wants to move to > 8.1 on dedicated systems ;) > > Raymond H. Gellenbeck > Manager | Business Service Management > Sony Network Entertainment > P: 858.207.1563 | M: 619.500.3993 > E: raymond.gellenb...@am.sony.com > > > ___ > UNSUBSCRIBE or access ARSlist Archives at www.arslist.org > "Where the Answers Are, and have been for 20 years" > ___ UNSUBSCRIBE or access ARSlist Archives at www.arslist.org "Where the Answers Are, and have been for 20 years"
