Re: Need Suggestion

2015-01-22 Thread Omega LiPO
Could not agree more.  

Remark: I was the lucky guy that got the chance to integrate the telalert and 
netcool in those days. 

Cheers, 

-Original Message-
From: Ray Gellenbeck ray.gellenb...@redmangollc.com
Sent: ‎22/‎01/‎2015 04:13
To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
Subject: Re: Need Suggestion

Greater minds than me have pointed out the main issues with the stated 
approach...I lived it in the old TelAlert and NetCool gateway days (shudder).

1.  Notifications for alarms should be outsourced to the related application, 
not stuck onto Remedy.  Remedy CAN do it, but it's main focus is processing 
workflow, notifications should be the exception, not the main bulk of its 
focused work.

2.  By putting this load on ARS instead, more resources will have to be devoted 
to scaling ARS appropriately AND its underlying DB cluster.  How is it they 
think they are saving money by doing this?  Reduced headcount because they 
think a dedicated notification person would be needed otherwise?  I hope nobody 
would be that short-sighted.

Here's another simpler thought:  SMS notifications quickly turn into ignored 
white noise by most all that receive them as the volume increases.  There are a 
lot of good bolt-on solutions for this topic, including ones that let 
individuals select when, what and how they get notifications.  Remedy does the 
basics for all 3, but not as well.

A good consultant will first try to sway the customer from this approach, but 
if that doesn't happen, ARS can handle it and someone will make a LOT of money 
from the ongoing care and feeding it will likely require.

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Re: Need Suggestion

2015-01-21 Thread Janie Sprenger
My understanding of what you just said is that the FMS Incidents aren't
going to be handled by people unless the SLA is breached; in which case
there is an escalation of sorts that means someone has to do something with
that Incident because the alarm hasn't cleared and there's actual work to
do.  So that also means that any FMS Incidents that are created but don't
alarm would need to mainly be closed by the system so they don't linger in
an open state.  I assume your customer has SLAs that have to be met, is
volume of Incidents included in their reporting - if so, it's something to
consider.

Maybe start putting some factual statements behind your hesitation.  For
example, what's the growth rate on the DB and can that be managed
automatically, what's the method of import - how long does it take to
import a record, update the record, other processing factors (such as
Remedy internal processing, like workflow processing and escalations), how
long does the system take to process an SLA breech?  Do you have enough AR
Servers, import servers?   Will there be an archive of data?  Sometimes a
factual accounting of considerations leads to financial impact that the
customer maybe didn't expect, like adding 12 servers to process the volume
of data or maybe it resolves the hesitation into something that can't be
done to something that can.

But, I do think that legitimate faults in the environment make for
legitimate Incidents.  BMC also has products for managing system events;
generally speaking, faults are isolated and filtered in the FMS and then
mainly legitimate Incidents get created.  It might be worth talking with
some of your counterparts to discuss some of the methodologies that collect
and filter those events in BMC's products so you can apply that conceptual
knowledge.   And, if the customer is really bent on using Remedy instead of
FMS configuration, perhaps a staging area for processing Faults and Alarms
(like what an FMS would do) is worth the design and build to keep 90% of
the non-Incident Alarms out of Incident Management.

Janie


On Tue, Jan 20, 2015 at 10:08 AM, Saraswat, Praveen psaras...@columnit.com
wrote:

 **

 Hi Janie,



 Customer has one of worlds largest passive support for Telcos due to which
 the volume of alarms from different EMSs is high. Actual need was to notify
 the stakeholders through SMS before it qualified to be converted to an
 Incident and follow a set escalation matrix in case Alarm is not able to
 clear itself from EMS systems.

 You are right in your understanding that Customer is trying to solve a
 problem which the FMS(Alarm System) owner has declined to do due to various
 reasons.



 There is a lot of processing done to get appropriate information for SMS
 ,before it goes from Remedy System to the SMS gateway.



 Yes, the volume of the Alarms to be converted to Incidents( only incidents
 will be created from Alarms) is high and the Customer is least bothered
 about handling of these tickets. He just wants to trigger Escalation(SLA
 breach) SMS if the Alarm is not automatically cleared.



 In addition to the above type of tickets. Remedy system is supposed to
 handle approx 70k tickets per day , which will be assigned to the
 appropriate groups and it needs to be worked upon by ground staff using a
 Mobile App. These tickets(Incidents/Change/Problem) also have their own
 processing and automation before it hits the database.SMS flows for these
 type of tickets as well.



 We have already implemented this for 70k tickets per day, but the new
 volume of Alarms makes me little hesitant to commit to the Customer. Also I
 don’t want to make the Remedy System as a SMS dispatcher tool instead of
 its core functionalities of ticket tracking and service management.



 I really appreciate your thoughts and opinion. Thanks



 Regards,

 Praveen



 *From:* Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) [mailto:
 arslist@ARSLIST.ORG] *On Behalf Of *Janie Sprenger
 *Sent:* 20 January 2015 22:24
 *To:* arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
 *Subject:* Re: Need Suggestion



 **

 Are you in disagreement because you don't think Remedy can handle the
 volume or the volume won't be appropriately handled by personnel once it's
 in Remedy?

 Some additional things to think about are:

 By ticket, do you mean Incident or Change Request or Task or Work Order or
 something custom, by escalations do you mean related transaction records?

 Are all of the tickets that get generated supposed to end up being handled
 manually by people?

 Is there more processing and automation that occurs once the ticket is
 generated in Remedy?

 Is the process flow escalation intended to be more than a historical audit
 record of the event?



 Obviously, the volume is really high and it's hard to think of any
 companies that can manually handle that kind of volume on a daily basis so
 that means there is more to the story.

 IMO, Here's the thing to keep in mind, the customer is trying to solve a
 problem

Re: Need Suggestion

2015-01-21 Thread Ray Gellenbeck
Greater minds than me have pointed out the main issues with the stated 
approach...I lived it in the old TelAlert and NetCool gateway days (shudder).

1.  Notifications for alarms should be outsourced to the related application, 
not stuck onto Remedy.  Remedy CAN do it, but it's main focus is processing 
workflow, notifications should be the exception, not the main bulk of its 
focused work.

2.  By putting this load on ARS instead, more resources will have to be devoted 
to scaling ARS appropriately AND its underlying DB cluster.  How is it they 
think they are saving money by doing this?  Reduced headcount because they 
think a dedicated notification person would be needed otherwise?  I hope nobody 
would be that short-sighted.

Here's another simpler thought:  SMS notifications quickly turn into ignored 
white noise by most all that receive them as the volume increases.  There are a 
lot of good bolt-on solutions for this topic, including ones that let 
individuals select when, what and how they get notifications.  Remedy does the 
basics for all 3, but not as well.

A good consultant will first try to sway the customer from this approach, but 
if that doesn't happen, ARS can handle it and someone will make a LOT of money 
from the ongoing care and feeding it will likely require.

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Re: Need Suggestion

2015-01-21 Thread Omega LiPO
I am in the Telco side. Those equipment will generate some huge amount of 
alarms. In the old day microMuse, now IBM got a product called netcool can 
based on the same type of alarm to generate 1 tickets, when the ticket is 
resolved, it help the counterpart, eg, hp openviiew to clear all those alarms.  
Just voice out one possibilities. 

Cheers, 
Omega

-Original Message-
From: Rick Cook remedyr...@gmail.com
Sent: ‎21/‎01/‎2015 01:16
To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
Subject: Re: Need Suggestion

** 
Great points, Janie.  I don't know that Remedy would scale to processing 5 
million Incidents a day, unless the DB was kept VERY well trimmed and tuned.  
If they processed through some very tiny form, then maybe.  But the issue is 
why are there 3-9 million alarms a day going INTO the system.  No one will ever 
actually process those, so deal with the duplicates and non-actionable items 
some other way, and specifically whitelist those you want/need to actually be 
tracked in an Incident.


Rick Cook



On Tue, Jan 20, 2015 at 8:54 AM, Janie Sprenger jrsrem...@gmail.com wrote:

** 
Are you in disagreement because you don't think Remedy can handle the volume or 
the volume won't be appropriately handled by personnel once it's in Remedy?  
Some additional things to think about are:  
By ticket, do you mean Incident or Change Request or Task or Work Order or 
something custom, by escalations do you mean related transaction records?  
Are all of the tickets that get generated supposed to end up being handled 
manually by people?
Is there more processing and automation that occurs once the ticket is 
generated in Remedy?  
Is the process flow escalation intended to be more than a historical audit 
record of the event?
 
Obviously, the volume is really high and it's hard to think of any companies 
that can manually handle that kind of volume on a daily basis so that means 
there is more to the story.  
IMO, Here's the thing to keep in mind, the customer is trying to solve a 
problem.  They are attempting to use Remedy to solve that problem, which is 
good so you don't want to deter from them from what Remedy can and should be 
doing.  But you also need to help to find a solution for the actual issue at 
hand because if they really have 3.5 to 9.5 million daily faults occurring in 
their environment, then they really do have a problem they have to sort out. 
Perhaps it's a matter of getting a handle on what is faulting, maybe SMS or FMS 
is or isn't configured correctly, maybe the faults are warnings and some are 
faults that need to be addressed.  Maybe there is something to be aware of 
other than just processing millions of individual tickets into a 1 to 1 mapping 
between the fault and the ticket.  
 
My suggestion is to find out what the end goal is for the data that goes into 
Remedy, regardless of the volume and see where that takes you with whether or 
not Remedy can assist with solving the customer's problem. 
 
HTH, 
Janie


On Tue, Jan 20, 2015 at 3:25 AM, Saraswat, Praveen psaras...@columnit.com 
wrote:

** 
Hi All,
 I have below requirement from one of the Customer. Wanted to check if anyone 
has done this before for such volume.
 Requirement – Customer wants to send SMS to the stakeholders for any 
escalations on the tickets generated from Alarm (Fault Management System).
Volume of tickets to be generated from Alarms – 3.5 million per day on day 1. 
Eventually the count to increase to 9.5 million per day.
For any given ticket,2 to 3 SMS to flow from the system as part of the 
escalation matrix.
Is remedy system the right place to handle SMS flow of this volume?
 I am in disagreement to use the Remedy System as SMS dispatcher for such a 
large volume of tickets.
What are your thoughts on this? Any suggestions?
 Regards,
Praveen
 
 
 
 
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Need Suggestion

2015-01-20 Thread Saraswat, Praveen
Hi All,



I have below requirement from one of the Customer. Wanted to check if anyone 
has done this before for such volume.



Requirement - Customer wants to send SMS to the stakeholders for any 
escalations on the tickets generated from Alarm (Fault Management System).

Volume of tickets to be generated from Alarms - 3.5 million per day on day 1. 
Eventually the count to increase to 9.5 million per day.

For any given ticket,2 to 3 SMS to flow from the system as part of the 
escalation matrix.

Is remedy system the right place to handle SMS flow of this volume?



I am in disagreement to use the Remedy System as SMS dispatcher for such a 
large volume of tickets.

What are your thoughts on this? Any suggestions?



Regards,

Praveen





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Re: Need Suggestion

2015-01-20 Thread Rick Cook
Great points, Janie.  I don't know that Remedy would scale to processing 5
million Incidents a day, unless the DB was kept VERY well trimmed and
tuned.  If they processed through some very tiny form, then maybe.  But the
issue is why are there 3-9 million alarms a day going INTO the system.  No
one will ever actually process those, so deal with the duplicates and
non-actionable items some other way, and specifically whitelist those you
want/need to actually be tracked in an Incident.

Rick Cook

On Tue, Jan 20, 2015 at 8:54 AM, Janie Sprenger jrsrem...@gmail.com wrote:

 **
 Are you in disagreement because you don't think Remedy can handle the
 volume or the volume won't be appropriately handled by personnel once it's
 in Remedy?
 Some additional things to think about are:
 By ticket, do you mean Incident or Change Request or Task or Work Order or
 something custom, by escalations do you mean related transaction records?
 Are all of the tickets that get generated supposed to end up being handled
 manually by people?
 Is there more processing and automation that occurs once the ticket is
 generated in Remedy?
 Is the process flow escalation intended to be more than a historical audit
 record of the event?

 Obviously, the volume is really high and it's hard to think of any
 companies that can manually handle that kind of volume on a daily basis so
 that means there is more to the story.
 IMO, Here's the thing to keep in mind, the customer is trying to solve a
 problem.  They are attempting to use Remedy to solve that problem, which is
 good so you don't want to deter from them from what Remedy can and should
 be doing.  But you also need to help to find a solution for the actual
 issue at hand because if they really have 3.5 to 9.5 million daily faults
 occurring in their environment, then they really do have a problem they
 have to sort out. Perhaps it's a matter of getting a handle on what is
 faulting, maybe SMS or FMS is or isn't configured correctly, maybe the
 faults are warnings and some are faults that need to be addressed.  Maybe
 there is something to be aware of other than just processing millions of
 individual tickets into a 1 to 1 mapping between the fault and the ticket.

 My suggestion is to find out what the end goal is for the data that goes
 into Remedy, regardless of the volume and see where that takes you with
 whether or not Remedy can assist with solving the customer's problem.

 HTH,
 Janie

 On Tue, Jan 20, 2015 at 3:25 AM, Saraswat, Praveen psaras...@columnit.com
  wrote:

 **

 Hi All,



 I have below requirement from one of the Customer. Wanted to check if
 anyone has done this before for such volume.



 Requirement – Customer wants to send SMS to the stakeholders for any
 escalations on the tickets generated from Alarm (Fault Management System).

 Volume of tickets to be generated from Alarms – 3.5 million per day on
 day 1. Eventually the count to increase to 9.5 million per day.

 For any given ticket,2 to 3 SMS to flow from the system as part of the
 escalation matrix.

 Is remedy system the right place to handle SMS flow of this volume?



 I am in disagreement to use the Remedy System as SMS dispatcher for such
 a large volume of tickets.

 What are your thoughts on this? Any suggestions?



 Regards,

 Praveen








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Re: Need Suggestion

2015-01-20 Thread Janie Sprenger
Are you in disagreement because you don't think Remedy can handle the
volume or the volume won't be appropriately handled by personnel once it's
in Remedy?
Some additional things to think about are:
By ticket, do you mean Incident or Change Request or Task or Work Order or
something custom, by escalations do you mean related transaction records?
Are all of the tickets that get generated supposed to end up being handled
manually by people?
Is there more processing and automation that occurs once the ticket is
generated in Remedy?
Is the process flow escalation intended to be more than a historical audit
record of the event?

Obviously, the volume is really high and it's hard to think of any
companies that can manually handle that kind of volume on a daily basis so
that means there is more to the story.
IMO, Here's the thing to keep in mind, the customer is trying to solve a
problem.  They are attempting to use Remedy to solve that problem, which is
good so you don't want to deter from them from what Remedy can and should
be doing.  But you also need to help to find a solution for the actual
issue at hand because if they really have 3.5 to 9.5 million daily faults
occurring in their environment, then they really do have a problem they
have to sort out. Perhaps it's a matter of getting a handle on what is
faulting, maybe SMS or FMS is or isn't configured correctly, maybe the
faults are warnings and some are faults that need to be addressed.  Maybe
there is something to be aware of other than just processing millions of
individual tickets into a 1 to 1 mapping between the fault and the ticket.

My suggestion is to find out what the end goal is for the data that goes
into Remedy, regardless of the volume and see where that takes you with
whether or not Remedy can assist with solving the customer's problem.

HTH,
Janie

On Tue, Jan 20, 2015 at 3:25 AM, Saraswat, Praveen psaras...@columnit.com
wrote:

 **

 Hi All,



 I have below requirement from one of the Customer. Wanted to check if
 anyone has done this before for such volume.



 Requirement – Customer wants to send SMS to the stakeholders for any
 escalations on the tickets generated from Alarm (Fault Management System).

 Volume of tickets to be generated from Alarms – 3.5 million per day on day
 1. Eventually the count to increase to 9.5 million per day.

 For any given ticket,2 to 3 SMS to flow from the system as part of the
 escalation matrix.

 Is remedy system the right place to handle SMS flow of this volume?



 I am in disagreement to use the Remedy System as SMS dispatcher for such a
 large volume of tickets.

 What are your thoughts on this? Any suggestions?



 Regards,

 Praveen








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Re: Need Suggestion

2015-01-20 Thread LJ LongWing
Praveen,
I'm sure you have already done the math9.5M/day is roughly 110/sec if
averaged out, which it of course wouldn't be.  This sort of volume would be
large just to store that many records per day, let alone 'process' them,
but Remedy is scalable, and is a workflow engine, so yes, an infrastructure
COULD be setup to handle itI'm not sure if Remedy would be doing more
than being a DB repository and lookup location at that point, so it might
make sense to bypass Remedy altogether and just write a Java Daemon or
something that did direct DB lookups for the data you need and called the
external program that's actually doing the paging...

On Tue, Jan 20, 2015 at 11:08 AM, Saraswat, Praveen psaras...@columnit.com
wrote:

 **

 Hi Janie,



 Customer has one of worlds largest passive support for Telcos due to which
 the volume of alarms from different EMSs is high. Actual need was to notify
 the stakeholders through SMS before it qualified to be converted to an
 Incident and follow a set escalation matrix in case Alarm is not able to
 clear itself from EMS systems.

 You are right in your understanding that Customer is trying to solve a
 problem which the FMS(Alarm System) owner has declined to do due to various
 reasons.



 There is a lot of processing done to get appropriate information for SMS
 ,before it goes from Remedy System to the SMS gateway.



 Yes, the volume of the Alarms to be converted to Incidents( only incidents
 will be created from Alarms) is high and the Customer is least bothered
 about handling of these tickets. He just wants to trigger Escalation(SLA
 breach) SMS if the Alarm is not automatically cleared.



 In addition to the above type of tickets. Remedy system is supposed to
 handle approx 70k tickets per day , which will be assigned to the
 appropriate groups and it needs to be worked upon by ground staff using a
 Mobile App. These tickets(Incidents/Change/Problem) also have their own
 processing and automation before it hits the database.SMS flows for these
 type of tickets as well.



 We have already implemented this for 70k tickets per day, but the new
 volume of Alarms makes me little hesitant to commit to the Customer. Also I
 don’t want to make the Remedy System as a SMS dispatcher tool instead of
 its core functionalities of ticket tracking and service management.



 I really appreciate your thoughts and opinion. Thanks



 Regards,

 Praveen



 *From:* Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) [mailto:
 arslist@ARSLIST.ORG] *On Behalf Of *Janie Sprenger
 *Sent:* 20 January 2015 22:24
 *To:* arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
 *Subject:* Re: Need Suggestion



 **

 Are you in disagreement because you don't think Remedy can handle the
 volume or the volume won't be appropriately handled by personnel once it's
 in Remedy?

 Some additional things to think about are:

 By ticket, do you mean Incident or Change Request or Task or Work Order or
 something custom, by escalations do you mean related transaction records?

 Are all of the tickets that get generated supposed to end up being handled
 manually by people?

 Is there more processing and automation that occurs once the ticket is
 generated in Remedy?

 Is the process flow escalation intended to be more than a historical audit
 record of the event?



 Obviously, the volume is really high and it's hard to think of any
 companies that can manually handle that kind of volume on a daily basis so
 that means there is more to the story.

 IMO, Here's the thing to keep in mind, the customer is trying to solve a
 problem.  They are attempting to use Remedy to solve that problem, which is
 good so you don't want to deter from them from what Remedy can and should
 be doing.  But you also need to help to find a solution for the actual
 issue at hand because if they really have 3.5 to 9.5 million daily faults
 occurring in their environment, then they really do have a problem they
 have to sort out. Perhaps it's a matter of getting a handle on what is
 faulting, maybe SMS or FMS is or isn't configured correctly, maybe the
 faults are warnings and some are faults that need to be addressed.  Maybe
 there is something to be aware of other than just processing millions of
 individual tickets into a 1 to 1 mapping between the fault and the ticket.



 My suggestion is to find out what the end goal is for the data that goes
 into Remedy, regardless of the volume and see where that takes you with
 whether or not Remedy can assist with solving the customer's problem.



 HTH,

 Janie



 On Tue, Jan 20, 2015 at 3:25 AM, Saraswat, Praveen psaras...@columnit.com
 wrote:

 **

 Hi All,



 I have below requirement from one of the Customer. Wanted to check if
 anyone has done this before for such volume.



 Requirement – Customer wants to send SMS to the stakeholders for any
 escalations on the tickets generated from Alarm (Fault Management System).

 Volume of tickets to be generated from Alarms – 3.5 million per day on day
 1. Eventually

Re: Need Suggestion

2015-01-20 Thread Pierson, Shawn
Most organizations that I’ve worked in where Incidents are created via a 
monitoring tool do that escalation on the monitoring tool’s side.  That’s 
really where you want to look.  Leave the Incidents for things that actually 
require human intervention.  I would propose getting the monitoring team to do 
two things:

1)  Group alarms into logical relationships to weed out unnecessary alarms 
(e.g. if a switch that has ten servers connected to it is down, you don’t get 
11 Incidents.)

2)  Create a prioritization structure so that Incidents are only created 
when either 1) major failures are reported via monitoring, or 2) medium alarms 
are not resolved in a timely manner and must be looked at by a person.

Additionally, there should be some Problem Management in place to address the 
issues causing these alarms.  That way there can be a representation in Remedy 
as a Problem Investigation or Known Error, yet you don’t need to store each and 
every example of a minor alarm as an entire record in Remedy.

Thanks,

Shawn Pierson
Remedy Developer | Energy Transfer

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[mailto:arslist@ARSLIST.ORG] On Behalf Of Saraswat, Praveen
Sent: Tuesday, January 20, 2015 12:09 PM
To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
Subject: Re: Need Suggestion

**
Hi Janie,

Customer has one of worlds largest passive support for Telcos due to which the 
volume of alarms from different EMSs is high. Actual need was to notify the 
stakeholders through SMS before it qualified to be converted to an Incident and 
follow a set escalation matrix in case Alarm is not able to clear itself from 
EMS systems.
You are right in your understanding that Customer is trying to solve a problem 
which the FMS(Alarm System) owner has declined to do due to various reasons.

There is a lot of processing done to get appropriate information for SMS 
,before it goes from Remedy System to the SMS gateway.

Yes, the volume of the Alarms to be converted to Incidents( only incidents will 
be created from Alarms) is high and the Customer is least bothered about 
handling of these tickets. He just wants to trigger Escalation(SLA breach) SMS 
if the Alarm is not automatically cleared.

In addition to the above type of tickets. Remedy system is supposed to handle 
approx 70k tickets per day , which will be assigned to the appropriate groups 
and it needs to be worked upon by ground staff using a Mobile App. These 
tickets(Incidents/Change/Problem) also have their own processing and automation 
before it hits the database.SMS flows for these type of tickets as well.

We have already implemented this for 70k tickets per day, but the new volume of 
Alarms makes me little hesitant to commit to the Customer. Also I don’t want to 
make the Remedy System as a SMS dispatcher tool instead of its core 
functionalities of ticket tracking and service management.

I really appreciate your thoughts and opinion. Thanks

Regards,
Praveen

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[mailto:arslist@ARSLIST.ORG] On Behalf Of Janie Sprenger
Sent: 20 January 2015 22:24
To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORGmailto:arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
Subject: Re: Need Suggestion

**
Are you in disagreement because you don't think Remedy can handle the volume or 
the volume won't be appropriately handled by personnel once it's in Remedy?
Some additional things to think about are:
By ticket, do you mean Incident or Change Request or Task or Work Order or 
something custom, by escalations do you mean related transaction records?
Are all of the tickets that get generated supposed to end up being handled 
manually by people?
Is there more processing and automation that occurs once the ticket is 
generated in Remedy?
Is the process flow escalation intended to be more than a historical audit 
record of the event?

Obviously, the volume is really high and it's hard to think of any companies 
that can manually handle that kind of volume on a daily basis so that means 
there is more to the story.
IMO, Here's the thing to keep in mind, the customer is trying to solve a 
problem.  They are attempting to use Remedy to solve that problem, which is 
good so you don't want to deter from them from what Remedy can and should be 
doing.  But you also need to help to find a solution for the actual issue at 
hand because if they really have 3.5 to 9.5 million daily faults occurring in 
their environment, then they really do have a problem they have to sort out. 
Perhaps it's a matter of getting a handle on what is faulting, maybe SMS or FMS 
is or isn't configured correctly, maybe the faults are warnings and some are 
faults that need to be addressed.  Maybe there is something to be aware of 
other than just processing millions of individual tickets into a 1 to 1 mapping 
between the fault and the ticket.

My suggestion is to find out what the end goal is for the data that goes into 
Remedy, regardless of the volume and see where that takes you with whether or 
not Remedy can assist

Re: Need Suggestion

2015-01-20 Thread Saraswat, Praveen
Hi Janie,

Customer has one of worlds largest passive support for Telcos due to which the 
volume of alarms from different EMSs is high. Actual need was to notify the 
stakeholders through SMS before it qualified to be converted to an Incident and 
follow a set escalation matrix in case Alarm is not able to clear itself from 
EMS systems.
You are right in your understanding that Customer is trying to solve a problem 
which the FMS(Alarm System) owner has declined to do due to various reasons.

There is a lot of processing done to get appropriate information for SMS 
,before it goes from Remedy System to the SMS gateway.

Yes, the volume of the Alarms to be converted to Incidents( only incidents will 
be created from Alarms) is high and the Customer is least bothered about 
handling of these tickets. He just wants to trigger Escalation(SLA breach) SMS 
if the Alarm is not automatically cleared.

In addition to the above type of tickets. Remedy system is supposed to handle 
approx 70k tickets per day , which will be assigned to the appropriate groups 
and it needs to be worked upon by ground staff using a Mobile App. These 
tickets(Incidents/Change/Problem) also have their own processing and automation 
before it hits the database.SMS flows for these type of tickets as well.

We have already implemented this for 70k tickets per day, but the new volume of 
Alarms makes me little hesitant to commit to the Customer. Also I don’t want to 
make the Remedy System as a SMS dispatcher tool instead of its core 
functionalities of ticket tracking and service management.

I really appreciate your thoughts and opinion. Thanks

Regards,
Praveen

From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) 
[mailto:arslist@ARSLIST.ORG] On Behalf Of Janie Sprenger
Sent: 20 January 2015 22:24
To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
Subject: Re: Need Suggestion

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Are you in disagreement because you don't think Remedy can handle the volume or 
the volume won't be appropriately handled by personnel once it's in Remedy?
Some additional things to think about are:
By ticket, do you mean Incident or Change Request or Task or Work Order or 
something custom, by escalations do you mean related transaction records?
Are all of the tickets that get generated supposed to end up being handled 
manually by people?
Is there more processing and automation that occurs once the ticket is 
generated in Remedy?
Is the process flow escalation intended to be more than a historical audit 
record of the event?

Obviously, the volume is really high and it's hard to think of any companies 
that can manually handle that kind of volume on a daily basis so that means 
there is more to the story.
IMO, Here's the thing to keep in mind, the customer is trying to solve a 
problem.  They are attempting to use Remedy to solve that problem, which is 
good so you don't want to deter from them from what Remedy can and should be 
doing.  But you also need to help to find a solution for the actual issue at 
hand because if they really have 3.5 to 9.5 million daily faults occurring in 
their environment, then they really do have a problem they have to sort out. 
Perhaps it's a matter of getting a handle on what is faulting, maybe SMS or FMS 
is or isn't configured correctly, maybe the faults are warnings and some are 
faults that need to be addressed.  Maybe there is something to be aware of 
other than just processing millions of individual tickets into a 1 to 1 mapping 
between the fault and the ticket.

My suggestion is to find out what the end goal is for the data that goes into 
Remedy, regardless of the volume and see where that takes you with whether or 
not Remedy can assist with solving the customer's problem.

HTH,
Janie

On Tue, Jan 20, 2015 at 3:25 AM, Saraswat, Praveen 
psaras...@columnit.commailto:psaras...@columnit.com wrote:
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Hi All,



I have below requirement from one of the Customer. Wanted to check if anyone 
has done this before for such volume.



Requirement – Customer wants to send SMS to the stakeholders for any 
escalations on the tickets generated from Alarm (Fault Management System).

Volume of tickets to be generated from Alarms – 3.5 million per day on day 1. 
Eventually the count to increase to 9.5 million per day.

For any given ticket,2 to 3 SMS to flow from the system as part of the 
escalation matrix.

Is remedy system the right place to handle SMS flow of this volume?



I am in disagreement to use the Remedy System as SMS dispatcher for such a 
large volume of tickets.

What are your thoughts on this? Any suggestions?



Regards,

Praveen




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