Re: Outgoing email address rejection list

2011-10-20 Thread Logan, Kelly
Of course - the email engine query is mailbox-specific; I forgot that.  (I'm 
trying to reduce size of that nasty NOT IN query it runs.)  That's an excellent 
solution, Fred.  Thanks!


Kelly Logan, Sr. Systems Administrator (Remedy), GMS
ProQuest | 789 E. Eisenhower Parkway, P.O. Box 1346 | Ann Arbor MI 48106-1346 
USA | 734.997.4777
kelly.lo...@proquest.commailto:kelly.lo...@proquest.com
www.proquest.com

ProQuest...Start here. 2010 InformationWeek 500 Top Innovator

P Please consider the environment before printing this email.

This email and any files transmitted with it are confidential and intended 
solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. If 
you have received this email in error please notify the sender, and delete the 
message from your computer.



From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) 
[mailto:arslist@ARSLIST.ORG] On Behalf Of Grooms, Frederick W
Sent: Wednesday, October 19, 2011 5:51 PM
To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
Subject: Re: Outgoing email address rejection list

**
Not if the configuration for that new Invalid mailbox is set to Disabled in 
the AR System Email Mailbox Configuration form.  Then the messages should sit 
in the Email Messages form where you can use other workflow to delete them.

Fred


From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) 
[mailto:arslist@ARSLIST.ORG] On Behalf Of Logan, Kelly
Sent: Wednesday, October 19, 2011 3:17 PM
To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
Subject: Re: Outgoing email address rejection list

**
Interesting thought, Fred, but I believe the email would still be in the 
mailbox and scanned as outgoing though, which I am trying to avoid.

Jason - thanks for the 'To' swap idea.  That's pretty much my last resort, as 
it would require sending the emails then deleting them, which is such a waste.

Doesn't it seem odd though that there is no way to simply stop an outgoing 
email?  And that whatever is changing the 'Send Message' field back to Yes 
doesn't show up on the logs?  Just as odd - I tried setting the 'Status' as 
well to Rejected as a flag, and found that while the filters ran, the 
'Status' field on the new entry was set back to New.  What is doing this?


Kelly Logan, Sr. Systems Administrator (Remedy), GMS
ProQuest | 789 E. Eisenhower Parkway, P.O. Box 1346 | Ann Arbor MI 48106-1346 
USA | 734.997.4777
kelly.lo...@proquest.commailto:kelly.lo...@proquest.com
www.proquest.com

ProQuest...Start here. 2010 InformationWeek 500 Top Innovator

P Please consider the environment before printing this email.

This email and any files transmitted with it are confidential and intended 
solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. If 
you have received this email in error please notify the sender, and delete the 
message from your computer.



From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) 
[mailto:arslist@ARSLIST.ORG] On Behalf Of Grooms, Frederick W
Sent: Wednesday, October 19, 2011 3:40 PM
To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
Subject: Re: Outgoing email address rejection list

**
How about if you change to a different mailbox name with Submit filters

Fred

From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) 
[mailto:arslist@ARSLIST.ORG] On Behalf Of Logan, Kelly
Sent: Wednesday, October 19, 2011 1:48 PM
To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
Subject: Re: Outgoing email address rejection list

**
Or perhaps others can't comment.  :^)

Thanks for the confirmation on this issue, David; it helps to know that it is 
related to something normal in Remedy and not another custom code issue.  I 
can't throw an error though, because that would error out the originating 
Incident transaction, which I don't want to do.

(Thank you Marcelo as well, but the list is of invalid addresses that aren't 
connected to contacts.  Please don't ask me why it's necessary for our custom 
code to set invalid email addresses, I won't have a pleasant or printable 
answer.  ;^)



Kelly Logan, Sr. Systems Administrator (Remedy), GMS
ProQuest | 789 E. Eisenhower Parkway, P.O. Box 1346 | Ann Arbor MI 48106-1346 
USA | 734.997.4777
kelly.lo...@proquest.commailto:kelly.lo...@proquest.com
www.proquest.com

ProQuest...Start here. 2010 InformationWeek 500 Top Innovator

P Please consider the environment before printing this email.

This email and any files transmitted with it are confidential and intended 
solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. If 
you have received this email in error please notify the sender, and delete the 
message from your computer.



From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) 
[mailto:arslist@ARSLIST.ORG] On Behalf Of David Durling
Sent: Tuesday, October 18, 2011 5:29 PM
To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
Subject: Re: Outgoing email address rejection list

**
I'm not a mail guru at all, but I have seen that issue with a message going out 
even after I manually set 'Send Message' to No - maybe ARS 6.0 and perhaps 
7.5, too.  Sometimes I think it's a timing issue with the mail processing

Re: Outgoing email address rejection list

2011-10-19 Thread Logan, Kelly
Or perhaps others can't comment.  :^)

Thanks for the confirmation on this issue, David; it helps to know that it is 
related to something normal in Remedy and not another custom code issue.  I 
can't throw an error though, because that would error out the originating 
Incident transaction, which I don't want to do.

(Thank you Marcelo as well, but the list is of invalid addresses that aren't 
connected to contacts.  Please don't ask me why it's necessary for our custom 
code to set invalid email addresses, I won't have a pleasant or printable 
answer.  ;^)



Kelly Logan, Sr. Systems Administrator (Remedy), GMS
ProQuest | 789 E. Eisenhower Parkway, P.O. Box 1346 | Ann Arbor MI 48106-1346 
USA | 734.997.4777
kelly.lo...@proquest.commailto:kelly.lo...@proquest.com
www.proquest.com

ProQuest...Start here. 2010 InformationWeek 500 Top Innovator

P Please consider the environment before printing this email.

This email and any files transmitted with it are confidential and intended 
solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. If 
you have received this email in error please notify the sender, and delete the 
message from your computer.



From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) 
[mailto:arslist@ARSLIST.ORG] On Behalf Of David Durling
Sent: Tuesday, October 18, 2011 5:29 PM
To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
Subject: Re: Outgoing email address rejection list

**
I'm not a mail guru at all, but I have seen that issue with a message going out 
even after I manually set 'Send Message' to No - maybe ARS 6.0 and perhaps 
7.5, too.  Sometimes I think it's a timing issue with the mail processing.

How about throwing an error on submit so a mail record isn't even created?  Not 
sure if that would interfere with processing the other mail you *do* want to 
send or not.  It would make me a little nervous, but perhaps others could 
comment on whether that's a good solution.

David Durling
Enterprise Information Technology Services
University of Georgia

From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) 
[mailto:arslist@ARSLIST.ORG] On Behalf Of Logan, Kelly
Sent: Tuesday, October 18, 2011 4:41 PM
To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
Subject: Outgoing email address rejection list

**
Going out to the email gurus -

I need to pull out standard email notifications to certain email addresses.  I 
have created a rejection list form and put in filters that check the 'To' 
address of outgoing emails against this list.  The mechanism I have tried so 
far is to set the 'Send Message' field to No (0) and jumping to 999 to short 
circuit any other processing.  This workflow is running, 'Send Message' is set 
to 0, and no other workflow in the filter log touches the field after that, yet 
when I check the entry, 'Send Message' is set to Send (1).  Note I am on ARS 
7.1, patch 009.

Is there some background process associated with the Email Engine that is 
interfering?  Alternately, is there another mechanism I can use to prevent a 
message from being sent during the submit?  (Trying to catch it before then 
would be significantly more difficult, involving multiple sets of code.)

Thank you in advance for your help,

Kelly Logan, Sr. Systems Administrator (Remedy), GMS
ProQuest | 789 E. Eisenhower Parkway, P.O. Box 1346 | Ann Arbor MI 48106-1346 
USA | 734.997.4777
kelly.lo...@proquest.commailto:kelly.lo...@proquest.com
www.proquest.com

ProQuest...Start here. 2010 InformationWeek 500 Top Innovator

P Please consider the environment before printing this email.

This email and any files transmitted with it are confidential and intended 
solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. If 
you have received this email in error please notify the sender, and delete the 
message from your computer.

_attend WWRUG11 www.wwrug.comhttp://www.wwrug.com ARSlist: Where the Answers 
Are_
_attend WWRUG11 www.wwrug.comhttp://www.wwrug.com ARSlist: Where the Answers 
Are_

___
UNSUBSCRIBE or access ARSlist Archives at www.arslist.org
attend wwrug11 www.wwrug.com ARSList: Where the Answers Are


Re: Outgoing email address rejection list

2011-10-19 Thread Grooms, Frederick W
How about if you change to a different mailbox name with Submit filters

Fred

From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) 
[mailto:arslist@ARSLIST.ORG] On Behalf Of Logan, Kelly
Sent: Wednesday, October 19, 2011 1:48 PM
To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
Subject: Re: Outgoing email address rejection list

**
Or perhaps others can't comment.  :^)

Thanks for the confirmation on this issue, David; it helps to know that it is 
related to something normal in Remedy and not another custom code issue.  I 
can't throw an error though, because that would error out the originating 
Incident transaction, which I don't want to do.

(Thank you Marcelo as well, but the list is of invalid addresses that aren't 
connected to contacts.  Please don't ask me why it's necessary for our custom 
code to set invalid email addresses, I won't have a pleasant or printable 
answer.  ;^)



Kelly Logan, Sr. Systems Administrator (Remedy), GMS
ProQuest | 789 E. Eisenhower Parkway, P.O. Box 1346 | Ann Arbor MI 48106-1346 
USA | 734.997.4777
kelly.lo...@proquest.commailto:kelly.lo...@proquest.com
www.proquest.com

ProQuest...Start here. 2010 InformationWeek 500 Top Innovator

P Please consider the environment before printing this email.

This email and any files transmitted with it are confidential and intended 
solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. If 
you have received this email in error please notify the sender, and delete the 
message from your computer.



From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) 
[mailto:arslist@ARSLIST.ORG] On Behalf Of David Durling
Sent: Tuesday, October 18, 2011 5:29 PM
To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
Subject: Re: Outgoing email address rejection list

**
I'm not a mail guru at all, but I have seen that issue with a message going out 
even after I manually set 'Send Message' to No - maybe ARS 6.0 and perhaps 
7.5, too.  Sometimes I think it's a timing issue with the mail processing.

How about throwing an error on submit so a mail record isn't even created?  Not 
sure if that would interfere with processing the other mail you *do* want to 
send or not.  It would make me a little nervous, but perhaps others could 
comment on whether that's a good solution.

David Durling
Enterprise Information Technology Services
University of Georgia

From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) 
[mailto:arslist@ARSLIST.ORG] On Behalf Of Logan, Kelly
Sent: Tuesday, October 18, 2011 4:41 PM
To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
Subject: Outgoing email address rejection list

**
Going out to the email gurus -

I need to pull out standard email notifications to certain email addresses.  I 
have created a rejection list form and put in filters that check the 'To' 
address of outgoing emails against this list.  The mechanism I have tried so 
far is to set the 'Send Message' field to No (0) and jumping to 999 to short 
circuit any other processing.  This workflow is running, 'Send Message' is set 
to 0, and no other workflow in the filter log touches the field after that, yet 
when I check the entry, 'Send Message' is set to Send (1).  Note I am on ARS 
7.1, patch 009.

Is there some background process associated with the Email Engine that is 
interfering?  Alternately, is there another mechanism I can use to prevent a 
message from being sent during the submit?  (Trying to catch it before then 
would be significantly more difficult, involving multiple sets of code.)

Thank you in advance for your help,

Kelly Logan, Sr. Systems Administrator (Remedy), GMS
ProQuest | 789 E. Eisenhower Parkway, P.O. Box 1346 | Ann Arbor MI 48106-1346 
USA | 734.997.4777
kelly.lo...@proquest.commailto:kelly.lo...@proquest.com
www.proquest.com

ProQuest...Start here. 2010 InformationWeek 500 Top Innovator

P Please consider the environment before printing this email.

This email and any files transmitted with it are confidential and intended 
solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. If 
you have received this email in error please notify the sender, and delete the 
message from your computer.




___
UNSUBSCRIBE or access ARSlist Archives at www.arslist.org
attend wwrug11 www.wwrug.com ARSList: Where the Answers Are


Re: Outgoing email address rejection list

2011-10-19 Thread Logan, Kelly
Interesting thought, Fred, but I believe the email would still be in the 
mailbox and scanned as outgoing though, which I am trying to avoid.

Jason - thanks for the 'To' swap idea.  That's pretty much my last resort, as 
it would require sending the emails then deleting them, which is such a waste.

Doesn't it seem odd though that there is no way to simply stop an outgoing 
email?  And that whatever is changing the 'Send Message' field back to Yes 
doesn't show up on the logs?  Just as odd - I tried setting the 'Status' as 
well to Rejected as a flag, and found that while the filters ran, the 
'Status' field on the new entry was set back to New.  What is doing this?


Kelly Logan, Sr. Systems Administrator (Remedy), GMS
ProQuest | 789 E. Eisenhower Parkway, P.O. Box 1346 | Ann Arbor MI 48106-1346 
USA | 734.997.4777
kelly.lo...@proquest.commailto:kelly.lo...@proquest.com
www.proquest.com

ProQuest...Start here. 2010 InformationWeek 500 Top Innovator

P Please consider the environment before printing this email.

This email and any files transmitted with it are confidential and intended 
solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. If 
you have received this email in error please notify the sender, and delete the 
message from your computer.



From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) 
[mailto:arslist@ARSLIST.ORG] On Behalf Of Grooms, Frederick W
Sent: Wednesday, October 19, 2011 3:40 PM
To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
Subject: Re: Outgoing email address rejection list

**
How about if you change to a different mailbox name with Submit filters

Fred

From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) 
[mailto:arslist@ARSLIST.ORG] On Behalf Of Logan, Kelly
Sent: Wednesday, October 19, 2011 1:48 PM
To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
Subject: Re: Outgoing email address rejection list

**
Or perhaps others can't comment.  :^)

Thanks for the confirmation on this issue, David; it helps to know that it is 
related to something normal in Remedy and not another custom code issue.  I 
can't throw an error though, because that would error out the originating 
Incident transaction, which I don't want to do.

(Thank you Marcelo as well, but the list is of invalid addresses that aren't 
connected to contacts.  Please don't ask me why it's necessary for our custom 
code to set invalid email addresses, I won't have a pleasant or printable 
answer.  ;^)



Kelly Logan, Sr. Systems Administrator (Remedy), GMS
ProQuest | 789 E. Eisenhower Parkway, P.O. Box 1346 | Ann Arbor MI 48106-1346 
USA | 734.997.4777
kelly.lo...@proquest.commailto:kelly.lo...@proquest.com
www.proquest.com

ProQuest...Start here. 2010 InformationWeek 500 Top Innovator

P Please consider the environment before printing this email.

This email and any files transmitted with it are confidential and intended 
solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. If 
you have received this email in error please notify the sender, and delete the 
message from your computer.



From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) 
[mailto:arslist@ARSLIST.ORG] On Behalf Of David Durling
Sent: Tuesday, October 18, 2011 5:29 PM
To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
Subject: Re: Outgoing email address rejection list

**
I'm not a mail guru at all, but I have seen that issue with a message going out 
even after I manually set 'Send Message' to No - maybe ARS 6.0 and perhaps 
7.5, too.  Sometimes I think it's a timing issue with the mail processing.

How about throwing an error on submit so a mail record isn't even created?  Not 
sure if that would interfere with processing the other mail you *do* want to 
send or not.  It would make me a little nervous, but perhaps others could 
comment on whether that's a good solution.

David Durling
Enterprise Information Technology Services
University of Georgia

From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) 
[mailto:arslist@ARSLIST.ORG] On Behalf Of Logan, Kelly
Sent: Tuesday, October 18, 2011 4:41 PM
To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
Subject: Outgoing email address rejection list

**
Going out to the email gurus -

I need to pull out standard email notifications to certain email addresses.  I 
have created a rejection list form and put in filters that check the 'To' 
address of outgoing emails against this list.  The mechanism I have tried so 
far is to set the 'Send Message' field to No (0) and jumping to 999 to short 
circuit any other processing.  This workflow is running, 'Send Message' is set 
to 0, and no other workflow in the filter log touches the field after that, yet 
when I check the entry, 'Send Message' is set to Send (1).  Note I am on ARS 
7.1, patch 009.

Is there some background process associated with the Email Engine that is 
interfering?  Alternately, is there another mechanism I can use to prevent a 
message from being sent during the submit?  (Trying to catch it before then 
would be significantly more difficult, involving multiple sets of code.)

Thank you in advance

Re: Outgoing email address rejection list

2011-10-19 Thread Jason Miller
Yeah, in our case for our test system it works well because we can go to
that email box and verify that the email looks like we expected it to.  The
emails are automatically deleted via exchange policy after x number of days.

On Wed, Oct 19, 2011 at 1:17 PM, Logan, Kelly kelly.lo...@proquest.comwrote:

 **

 Interesting thought, Fred, but I believe the email would still be in the
 mailbox and scanned as outgoing though, which I am trying to avoid.

 ** **

 Jason – thanks for the ‘To’ swap idea.  That’s pretty much my last resort,
 as it would require sending the emails then deleting them, which is such a
 waste.

 ** **

 Doesn’t it seem odd though that there is no way to simply stop an outgoing
 email?  And that whatever is changing the ‘Send Message’ field back to “Yes”
 doesn’t show up on the logs?  Just as odd – I tried setting the ‘Status’ as
 well to “Rejected” as a flag, and found that while the filters ran, the
 ‘Status’ field on the new entry was set back to “New”.  What is doing this?
 

 ** **

 ** **

 *Kelly Logan*, Sr. Systems Administrator (Remedy), GMS

 ProQuest | 789 E. Eisenhower Parkway, P.O. Box 1346 | Ann Arbor MI
 48106-1346 USA | 734.997.4777 

 kelly.lo...@proquest.com

 www.proquest.com 

 ** **

 *ProQuest*...Start here. 2010 InformationWeek 500 Top Innovator

 ** **

 P Please consider the environment before printing this email. 

 ** **

 *This email and any files transmitted with it are confidential and
 intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are
 addressed. If you have received this email in error please notify the
 sender, and delete the message from your computer*.

 ** **

 ** **

 ** **

 *From:* Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) [mailto:
 arslist@ARSLIST.ORG] *On Behalf Of *Grooms, Frederick W
 *Sent:* Wednesday, October 19, 2011 3:40 PM

 *To:* arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
 *Subject:* Re: Outgoing email address rejection list

 ** **

 ** 

 How about if you change to a different mailbox name with Submit filters***
 *

 ** **

 Fred

 ** **

 *From:* Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) [mailto:
 arslist@ARSLIST.ORG] *On Behalf Of *Logan, Kelly
 *Sent:* Wednesday, October 19, 2011 1:48 PM
 *To:* arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
 *Subject:* Re: Outgoing email address rejection list

 ** **

 ** 

 Or perhaps others can’t comment.  :^)

 ** **

 Thanks for the confirmation on this issue, David; it helps to know that it
 is related to something normal in Remedy and not another custom code issue.
 I can’t throw an error though, because that would error out the originating
 Incident transaction, which I don’t want to do.

 ** **

 (Thank you Marcelo as well, but the list is of invalid addresses that
 aren’t connected to contacts.  Please don’t ask me why it’s necessary for
 our custom code to set invalid email addresses, I won’t have a pleasant or
 printable answer.  ;^)

 ** **

 ** **

 ** **

 *Kelly Logan*, Sr. Systems Administrator (Remedy), GMS

 ProQuest | 789 E. Eisenhower Parkway, P.O. Box 1346 | Ann Arbor MI
 48106-1346 USA | 734.997.4777 

 kelly.lo...@proquest.com

 www.proquest.com 

 ** **

 *ProQuest*...Start here. 2010 InformationWeek 500 Top Innovator

 ** **

 P Please consider the environment before printing this email. 

 ** **

 *This email and any files transmitted with it are confidential and
 intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are
 addressed. If you have received this email in error please notify the
 sender, and delete the message from your computer*.

 ** **

 ** **

 ** **

 *From:* Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) [mailto:
 arslist@ARSLIST.ORG] *On Behalf Of *David Durling
 *Sent:* Tuesday, October 18, 2011 5:29 PM
 *To:* arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
 *Subject:* Re: Outgoing email address rejection list

 ** **

 ** 

 I’m not a mail guru at all, but I have seen that issue with a message going
 out even after I manually set ‘Send Message’ to “No” – maybe ARS 6.0 and
 perhaps 7.5, too.  Sometimes I think it’s a timing issue with the mail
 processing.

 ** **

 How about throwing an error on submit so a mail record isn’t even created?
 Not sure if that would interfere with processing the other mail you **do**
 want to send or not.  It would make me a little nervous, but perhaps others
 could comment on whether that’s a good solution.

 ** **

 David Durling

 Enterprise Information Technology Services

 University of Georgia

 ** **

 *From:* Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) [mailto:
 arslist@ARSLIST.ORG] *On Behalf Of *Logan, Kelly
 *Sent:* Tuesday, October 18, 2011 4:41 PM
 *To:* arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
 *Subject:* Outgoing email address rejection list

 ** **

 ** 

 Going out to the email gurus - 

 ** **

 I need to pull out standard email notifications to certain email
 addresses.  I have created a rejection list form

Re: Outgoing email address rejection list

2011-10-19 Thread Thad Esser
Kelly,

Just as a troubleshooting step, what happens if you get rid of any Run-if
(so the filter always runs) on your filter and take out any actions other
than setting the Send Messages field to No.  If that sets all messages to
No (and the value sticks), then you know your problem isn't with the setting
of the Send Messages field.  Conversely, if its still getting set back to
Yes,  then that might make it more clear as to what is setting the value.

(we do what you are trying to do, and setting the field to No works as
expected).

Hope that helps some.
Thad
On Tue, Oct 18, 2011 at 1:41 PM, Logan, Kelly kelly.lo...@proquest.comwrote:

 **

 Going out to the email gurus - 

 ** **

 I need to pull out standard email notifications to certain email
 addresses.  I have created a rejection list form and put in filters that
 check the ‘To’ address of outgoing emails against this list.  The mechanism
 I have tried so far is to set the ‘Send Message’ field to “No” (0) and
 jumping to 999 to short circuit any other processing.  This workflow is
 running, ‘Send Message’ is set to 0, and no other workflow in the filter log
 touches the field after that, yet when I check the entry, ‘Send Message’ is
 set to “Send” (1).  Note I am on ARS 7.1, patch 009.

 ** **

 Is there some background process associated with the Email Engine that is
 interfering?  Alternately, is there another mechanism I can use to prevent a
 message from being sent during the submit?  (Trying to catch it before then
 would be significantly more difficult, involving multiple sets of code.)**
 **

 ** **

 Thank you in advance for your help,

 ** **

 *Kelly Logan*, Sr. Systems Administrator (Remedy), GMS

 ProQuest | 789 E. Eisenhower Parkway, P.O. Box 1346 | Ann Arbor MI
 48106-1346 USA | 734.997.4777 

 kelly.lo...@proquest.com

 www.proquest.com 

 ** **

 *ProQuest*...Start here. 2010 InformationWeek 500 Top Innovator

 ** **

 P Please consider the environment before printing this email. 

 ** **

 *This email and any files transmitted with it are confidential and
 intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are
 addressed. If you have received this email in error please notify the
 sender, and delete the message from your computer*.

 ** **
 _attend WWRUG11 www.wwrug.com ARSlist: Where the Answers Are_

___
UNSUBSCRIBE or access ARSlist Archives at www.arslist.org
attend wwrug11 www.wwrug.com ARSList: Where the Answers Are


Re: Outgoing email address rejection list

2011-10-19 Thread Grooms, Frederick W
Not if the configuration for that new Invalid mailbox is set to Disabled in 
the AR System Email Mailbox Configuration form.  Then the messages should sit 
in the Email Messages form where you can use other workflow to delete them.

Fred


From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) 
[mailto:arslist@ARSLIST.ORG] On Behalf Of Logan, Kelly
Sent: Wednesday, October 19, 2011 3:17 PM
To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
Subject: Re: Outgoing email address rejection list

**
Interesting thought, Fred, but I believe the email would still be in the 
mailbox and scanned as outgoing though, which I am trying to avoid.

Jason - thanks for the 'To' swap idea.  That's pretty much my last resort, as 
it would require sending the emails then deleting them, which is such a waste.

Doesn't it seem odd though that there is no way to simply stop an outgoing 
email?  And that whatever is changing the 'Send Message' field back to Yes 
doesn't show up on the logs?  Just as odd - I tried setting the 'Status' as 
well to Rejected as a flag, and found that while the filters ran, the 
'Status' field on the new entry was set back to New.  What is doing this?


Kelly Logan, Sr. Systems Administrator (Remedy), GMS
ProQuest | 789 E. Eisenhower Parkway, P.O. Box 1346 | Ann Arbor MI 48106-1346 
USA | 734.997.4777
kelly.lo...@proquest.commailto:kelly.lo...@proquest.com
www.proquest.com

ProQuest...Start here. 2010 InformationWeek 500 Top Innovator

P Please consider the environment before printing this email.

This email and any files transmitted with it are confidential and intended 
solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. If 
you have received this email in error please notify the sender, and delete the 
message from your computer.



From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) 
[mailto:arslist@ARSLIST.ORG] On Behalf Of Grooms, Frederick W
Sent: Wednesday, October 19, 2011 3:40 PM
To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
Subject: Re: Outgoing email address rejection list

**
How about if you change to a different mailbox name with Submit filters

Fred

From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) 
[mailto:arslist@ARSLIST.ORG] On Behalf Of Logan, Kelly
Sent: Wednesday, October 19, 2011 1:48 PM
To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
Subject: Re: Outgoing email address rejection list

**
Or perhaps others can't comment.  :^)

Thanks for the confirmation on this issue, David; it helps to know that it is 
related to something normal in Remedy and not another custom code issue.  I 
can't throw an error though, because that would error out the originating 
Incident transaction, which I don't want to do.

(Thank you Marcelo as well, but the list is of invalid addresses that aren't 
connected to contacts.  Please don't ask me why it's necessary for our custom 
code to set invalid email addresses, I won't have a pleasant or printable 
answer.  ;^)



Kelly Logan, Sr. Systems Administrator (Remedy), GMS
ProQuest | 789 E. Eisenhower Parkway, P.O. Box 1346 | Ann Arbor MI 48106-1346 
USA | 734.997.4777
kelly.lo...@proquest.commailto:kelly.lo...@proquest.com
www.proquest.com

ProQuest...Start here. 2010 InformationWeek 500 Top Innovator

P Please consider the environment before printing this email.

This email and any files transmitted with it are confidential and intended 
solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. If 
you have received this email in error please notify the sender, and delete the 
message from your computer.



From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) 
[mailto:arslist@ARSLIST.ORG] On Behalf Of David Durling
Sent: Tuesday, October 18, 2011 5:29 PM
To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
Subject: Re: Outgoing email address rejection list

**
I'm not a mail guru at all, but I have seen that issue with a message going out 
even after I manually set 'Send Message' to No - maybe ARS 6.0 and perhaps 
7.5, too.  Sometimes I think it's a timing issue with the mail processing.

How about throwing an error on submit so a mail record isn't even created?  Not 
sure if that would interfere with processing the other mail you *do* want to 
send or not.  It would make me a little nervous, but perhaps others could 
comment on whether that's a good solution.

David Durling
Enterprise Information Technology Services
University of Georgia

From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) 
[mailto:arslist@ARSLIST.ORG] On Behalf Of Logan, Kelly
Sent: Tuesday, October 18, 2011 4:41 PM
To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
Subject: Outgoing email address rejection list

**
Going out to the email gurus -

I need to pull out standard email notifications to certain email addresses.  I 
have created a rejection list form and put in filters that check the 'To' 
address of outgoing emails against this list.  The mechanism I have tried so 
far is to set the 'Send Message' field to No (0) and jumping to 999 to short 
circuit any other processing.  This workflow is running, 'Send Message' is set 
to 0, and no other workflow

Outgoing email address rejection list

2011-10-18 Thread Logan, Kelly
Going out to the email gurus -

I need to pull out standard email notifications to certain email addresses.  I 
have created a rejection list form and put in filters that check the 'To' 
address of outgoing emails against this list.  The mechanism I have tried so 
far is to set the 'Send Message' field to No (0) and jumping to 999 to short 
circuit any other processing.  This workflow is running, 'Send Message' is set 
to 0, and no other workflow in the filter log touches the field after that, yet 
when I check the entry, 'Send Message' is set to Send (1).  Note I am on ARS 
7.1, patch 009.

Is there some background process associated with the Email Engine that is 
interfering?  Alternately, is there another mechanism I can use to prevent a 
message from being sent during the submit?  (Trying to catch it before then 
would be significantly more difficult, involving multiple sets of code.)

Thank you in advance for your help,

Kelly Logan, Sr. Systems Administrator (Remedy), GMS
ProQuest | 789 E. Eisenhower Parkway, P.O. Box 1346 | Ann Arbor MI 48106-1346 
USA | 734.997.4777
kelly.lo...@proquest.commailto:kelly.lo...@proquest.com
www.proquest.com

ProQuest...Start here. 2010 InformationWeek 500 Top Innovator

P Please consider the environment before printing this email.

This email and any files transmitted with it are confidential and intended 
solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. If 
you have received this email in error please notify the sender, and delete the 
message from your computer.


___
UNSUBSCRIBE or access ARSlist Archives at www.arslist.org
attend wwrug11 www.wwrug.com ARSList: Where the Answers Are


Re: Outgoing email address rejection list

2011-10-18 Thread Martinez, Marcelo A
Kelly,
Not a guru here but may be have an alternative. IF your blacklist of email 
address is for certain people, could it be possible to go into their people's 
record and set 'notification availability' to No ?

Just a thought..



From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) 
[mailto:arslist@ARSLIST.ORG] On Behalf Of Logan, Kelly
Sent: Tuesday, October 18, 2011 3:41 PM
To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
Subject: Outgoing email address rejection list

**
Going out to the email gurus -

I need to pull out standard email notifications to certain email addresses.  I 
have created a rejection list form and put in filters that check the 'To' 
address of outgoing emails against this list.  The mechanism I have tried so 
far is to set the 'Send Message' field to No (0) and jumping to 999 to short 
circuit any other processing.  This workflow is running, 'Send Message' is set 
to 0, and no other workflow in the filter log touches the field after that, yet 
when I check the entry, 'Send Message' is set to Send (1).  Note I am on ARS 
7.1, patch 009.

Is there some background process associated with the Email Engine that is 
interfering?  Alternately, is there another mechanism I can use to prevent a 
message from being sent during the submit?  (Trying to catch it before then 
would be significantly more difficult, involving multiple sets of code.)

Thank you in advance for your help,

Kelly Logan, Sr. Systems Administrator (Remedy), GMS
ProQuest | 789 E. Eisenhower Parkway, P.O. Box 1346 | Ann Arbor MI 48106-1346 
USA | 734.997.4777
kelly.lo...@proquest.commailto:kelly.lo...@proquest.com
www.proquest.com

ProQuest...Start here. 2010 InformationWeek 500 Top Innovator

P Please consider the environment before printing this email.

This email and any files transmitted with it are confidential and intended 
solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. If 
you have received this email in error please notify the sender, and delete the 
message from your computer.

_attend WWRUG11 www.wwrug.com ARSlist: Where the Answers Are_

___
UNSUBSCRIBE or access ARSlist Archives at www.arslist.org
attend wwrug11 www.wwrug.com ARSList: Where the Answers Are


Re: Outgoing email address rejection list

2011-10-18 Thread David Durling
I'm not a mail guru at all, but I have seen that issue with a message going out 
even after I manually set 'Send Message' to No - maybe ARS 6.0 and perhaps 
7.5, too.  Sometimes I think it's a timing issue with the mail processing.

How about throwing an error on submit so a mail record isn't even created?  Not 
sure if that would interfere with processing the other mail you *do* want to 
send or not.  It would make me a little nervous, but perhaps others could 
comment on whether that's a good solution.

David Durling
Enterprise Information Technology Services
University of Georgia

From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) 
[mailto:arslist@ARSLIST.ORG] On Behalf Of Logan, Kelly
Sent: Tuesday, October 18, 2011 4:41 PM
To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
Subject: Outgoing email address rejection list

**
Going out to the email gurus -

I need to pull out standard email notifications to certain email addresses.  I 
have created a rejection list form and put in filters that check the 'To' 
address of outgoing emails against this list.  The mechanism I have tried so 
far is to set the 'Send Message' field to No (0) and jumping to 999 to short 
circuit any other processing.  This workflow is running, 'Send Message' is set 
to 0, and no other workflow in the filter log touches the field after that, yet 
when I check the entry, 'Send Message' is set to Send (1).  Note I am on ARS 
7.1, patch 009.

Is there some background process associated with the Email Engine that is 
interfering?  Alternately, is there another mechanism I can use to prevent a 
message from being sent during the submit?  (Trying to catch it before then 
would be significantly more difficult, involving multiple sets of code.)

Thank you in advance for your help,

Kelly Logan, Sr. Systems Administrator (Remedy), GMS
ProQuest | 789 E. Eisenhower Parkway, P.O. Box 1346 | Ann Arbor MI 48106-1346 
USA | 734.997.4777
kelly.lo...@proquest.commailto:kelly.lo...@proquest.com
www.proquest.com

ProQuest...Start here. 2010 InformationWeek 500 Top Innovator

P Please consider the environment before printing this email.

This email and any files transmitted with it are confidential and intended 
solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. If 
you have received this email in error please notify the sender, and delete the 
message from your computer.

_attend WWRUG11 www.wwrug.comhttp://www.wwrug.com ARSlist: Where the Answers 
Are_

___
UNSUBSCRIBE or access ARSlist Archives at www.arslist.org
attend wwrug11 www.wwrug.com ARSList: Where the Answers Are


Re: Outgoing email address rejection list

2011-10-18 Thread Jason Miller
We had the same issue with trying to set Sent Message to No.

Here is what we do for our test environment where we don't want to spam
regular users.  Unless the email address is whitelisted we tack the
address in the To: field on to the end of the subject and replace the To:
with the email address of an account created for these redirected messages.
We also have workflow to look at CC: and BCC: but I can't remember if it
just nulls them out or does the whitelist check also.

Jason

On Tue, Oct 18, 2011 at 2:29 PM, David Durling durl...@uga.edu wrote:

 **

 I’m not a mail guru at all, but I have seen that issue with a message going
 out even after I manually set ‘Send Message’ to “No” – maybe ARS 6.0 and
 perhaps 7.5, too.  Sometimes I think it’s a timing issue with the mail
 processing.

 ** **

 How about throwing an error on submit so a mail record isn’t even created?
 Not sure if that would interfere with processing the other mail you **do**
 want to send or not.  It would make me a little nervous, but perhaps others
 could comment on whether that’s a good solution.

 ** **

 David Durling

 Enterprise Information Technology Services

 University of Georgia

 ** **

 *From:* Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) [mailto:
 arslist@ARSLIST.ORG] *On Behalf Of *Logan, Kelly
 *Sent:* Tuesday, October 18, 2011 4:41 PM
 *To:* arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
 *Subject:* Outgoing email address rejection list

 ** **

 ** 

 Going out to the email gurus - 

 ** **

 I need to pull out standard email notifications to certain email
 addresses.  I have created a rejection list form and put in filters that
 check the ‘To’ address of outgoing emails against this list.  The mechanism
 I have tried so far is to set the ‘Send Message’ field to “No” (0) and
 jumping to 999 to short circuit any other processing.  This workflow is
 running, ‘Send Message’ is set to 0, and no other workflow in the filter log
 touches the field after that, yet when I check the entry, ‘Send Message’ is
 set to “Send” (1).  Note I am on ARS 7.1, patch 009.

 ** **

 Is there some background process associated with the Email Engine that is
 interfering?  Alternately, is there another mechanism I can use to prevent a
 message from being sent during the submit?  (Trying to catch it before then
 would be significantly more difficult, involving multiple sets of code.)**
 **

 ** **

 Thank you in advance for your help,

 ** **

 *Kelly Logan*, Sr. Systems Administrator (Remedy), GMS

 ProQuest | 789 E. Eisenhower Parkway, P.O. Box 1346 | Ann Arbor MI
 48106-1346 USA | 734.997.4777 

 kelly.lo...@proquest.com

 www.proquest.com 

 ** **

 *ProQuest*...Start here. 2010 InformationWeek 500 Top Innovator

 ** **

 P Please consider the environment before printing this email. 

 ** **

 *This email and any files transmitted with it are confidential and
 intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are
 addressed. If you have received this email in error please notify the
 sender, and delete the message from your computer*.

 ** **

 _attend WWRUG11 www.wwrug.com ARSlist: Where the Answers Are_ 
   _attend WWRUG11 www.wwrug.com ARSlist: Where the Answers Are_


___
UNSUBSCRIBE or access ARSlist Archives at www.arslist.org
attend wwrug11 www.wwrug.com ARSList: Where the Answers Are