Thanks Lyle
Setting an Index on the 'Email ID' field on the Email Error Logs form was 
the solution.

I do the same thing every month deleting 20k-30k items from the messages 
form.  I should probably setup an archive. 
I wonder if ARS 7.5 has the fix  for when you delete the message it 
deletes its associated error log entry.

Thanks again all, for the suggestions.
JK




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We had the exact same issue.  The problem isn?t the number of errors 
associated with any given message, it?s the number of total errors in the 
error log form combined with the fact that 1) BMC didn?t add any indexes 
to the form (that?s an issue in several places), and 2) the form does not 
get cleaned up as e-mails get deleted (that is, BMC didn?t include 
workflow to delete error logs as the corresponding e-mail get deleted). 
The issue is that there is a table on the email messages form that 
references the error logs form, and when you view a message, it refreshes 
the table.  Since the error logs form doesn?t have an index on it, it does 
a table scan in the database every time.
 
To fix it, do at least the following:
 
Add an index on the field ?Email ID? on the AR System Email Error Logs 
forms.
 
That will significantly speed up viewing e-mails regardless of how many 
records are in the error logs form.
 
Next, you can add a filter to AR System Email Messages that runs on Delete 
and performs a Run Process action with the following text:
 
Application-Query-Delete-Entry "AR System Email Error Logs" '18023' = 
"$Email ID$"
 
This will remove errors from the error log as e-mails get deleted from the 
email messages form.  That will keep your error logs from continuously 
growing out of control (assuming that you don?t keep all e-mails in your 
email messages form).
 
Lastly, I would clean out all the current entries in the error logs form, 
unless you need them for some reason.  If you really want to be clever, 
you can only clean out entries that don?t still have a corresponding 
e-mail in the e-mail messages form, but you?d probably have to either 
write program or write some workflow to determine if a given error entry 
has a corresponding e-mail.  You don?t need to worry about deleting large 
amounts of data in the user tool.  I?ve routinely deleted 5-20K records at 
a time in the User tools without causing any issues for other users on the 
system.  It does take a long time, though.
 
Doing all three of those things will keep viewing e-mails fast and keep 
your error logs cleaned up with only relevant data (it?s no longer 
relevant if the corresponding e-mail is no longer there).
 
Good luck,
Lyle
 
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I do have over 95,000 items in the email error logs form. 
Are you saying to delete those out and retry opening the email messages 
form. 

JK 




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What I?ve seen as the usual suspect is the Email Error Logs form . 
Depending on what level of logging you have turned on for E-mail messages, 
that 1 e-mail entry may have 20 entries associated within the error log 
form. (I may be exaggerating) 
  
Tauf Chowdhury 
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Mobile:646.483.2779 
  
  
  
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Its probably not the search of that form but the refresh of several table 
fields that are on that form. 
On Wed, Oct 21, 2009 at 11:10 PM, John Kelley <
john.kel...@dunkinbrands.com> wrote: 

Hi List 
Has anyone had issues loading the AR System Email Messages in search mode? 

It takes way to long to load. 

I deleted all but one entry in the messages form and if I refresh my 
search results, it takes over a minute to load the one entry.   
It is so slow. 

Any Suggestions? 

ARS 7.1 patch 6 
Oracle 10G 

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