Re: A little bit early for Halloween or a little late for Friday the 13th
Hi Joe, That is Dev and it is a simple set field, which I know exactly where and what to look for at the DB level. I just don't want to go there at this point. I am trying to find out (if possible) what happened (and why). If there is a step we missed on the cleaning/flushing, bitting the head of the chicken, spinning on our heads, incantations, etc. If anyone else encountered something similar. There is obviously something corrupted. jdso...@shyle.net Sent by: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG 09/20/2013 11:29 AM Please respond to arslist@ARSLIST.ORG To arslist@ARSLIST.ORG cc Subject Re: A little bit early for Halloween or a little late for Friday the 13th What environment are you facing that on? Dev? Test/QA/Staging? Prod? Even if it is production, since its only an active link - less of an impact as opposed to a filter, delete the offending AL, re-cache the Mid-Tier and see if it still shows up or fires.. Take a backup of the AL before deleting. If it still fires post deleting, then I may have a few suggestions to look up in the data tables where data related to active links is stored.. I'd need to know what actions are in it to be able to guide you to what you should be looking for. Cheers Joe -Original Message- From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) [mailto:arslist@ARSLIST.ORG] On Behalf Of pascale.sterr...@daimler.com Sent: Friday, September 20, 2013 2:21 PM To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG Subject: Re: A little bit early for Halloween or a little late for Friday the 13th This is a copy/paste of the name. And this is a new application that only exists only on a dev server. nowhere else. I wish it would have been that simple Thank you, Pascale Sterrett Kenavo ar wech all jdso...@shyle.net Sent by: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG 09/20/2013 10:47 AM Please respond to arslist@ARSLIST.ORG To arslist@ARSLIST.ORG cc Subject Re: A little bit early for Halloween or a little late for Friday the 13th Or you man *think* it's the same active link because it almost looks similar to a human eye. Did you look at your AL log by looking for the AL name by doing a find by the exact name? There must be a sort of a duplicate with a similar name that you are seeing in your logs that is firing? Or maybe you are disabling it in one environment and testing results in another? Cheers Joe -Original Message- From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) [mailto:arslist@ARSLIST.ORG] On Behalf Of pascale.sterr...@daimler.com Sent: Friday, September 20, 2013 12:01 PM To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG Subject: Re: A little bit early for Halloween or a little late for Friday the 13th That was one of our first step. And did not change anything. taufc...@gmail.com Sent by: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG 09/20/2013 08:48 AM Please respond to arslist@ARSLIST.ORG To arslist@ARSLIST.ORG cc Subject Re: A little bit early for Halloween or a little late for Friday the 13th It sounds like an issue with the server cache getting jacked up. I wonder what would've happened if you re-enabled the AL. That would force a recache (I think). Tauf Chowdhury > On Sep 20, 2013, at 9:44 AM, "pascale.sterr...@daimler.com" wrote: > > Hi all, > > This will sound like a Friday joke but it is not > > We just have a little bit of the spooky weird one here. And I wonder if > anyone else had this kind of weird behavior. > I just want to know if there is a step of cache clearing/cleaning we > missed > > We are 100% custom apps. > 7.6.4 SP5 mainly WUT > MSSQL 2005 > Win 2003 > > We are not using Best Practice Mode. So no Overlay > > #1 Weird occurrence: > > My colleague disabled an Active Link. But still it is triggering. In the > logs, we see the AL being triggered. It is the same name but with a bunch > of numbers following the name. If we do a search on Dev studio for that > particular name with those number we can't find it. Just the one without > the numbers. And that one is disabled in both Dev and Best Practice Mode. > > Regardless of restarting the server, closing the WUT and relogin, clearing > the WUT cache, the AL regardless is triggering and showing up in the Logs. > > > #2 occurrence > I deleted an AL (different one). Still in Dev mode. The AL still > triggered. Still showed in the logs. > Regardless of restarting the server, closing the WUT and relogin, clearing > the WUT cache, the AL regardless is triggering and showing up in the Logs. > > But if I looked for it in dev studio it was no longer there. > > #3 > This morning, the deleted AL is no longer showing in the logs and all is > working fine for now... > > > Anyone experienced ghostly AL? > > > Thank you, > > Pascale Sterrett > Kenavo ar wech all > > > If you are not the intended addressee, please inform us immediately that you
Re: A little bit early for Halloween or a little late for Friday the 13th
I've seen weird things in Dev Studio when you have object relationships turned on and they get corruptedturning them off (but not restarting the server) seems to fix the Dev Studio weirdness (must turn it back on before restarting, or it needs to be rebuilt, but rebuilding it fixes the reference problems) I don't think you are dealing with a 're-cache' issue as Tauf suggested, because you have restarted the server, which is the ultimate recache... so I guess my recommendation would be to turn off object relationships, restart, turn it back on, restartsee if it's fixed after turning it off though. On Fri, Sep 20, 2013 at 9:43 AM, wrote: > Hi all, > > This will sound like a Friday joke but it is not > > We just have a little bit of the spooky weird one here. And I wonder if > anyone else had this kind of weird behavior. > I just want to know if there is a step of cache clearing/cleaning we > missed > > We are 100% custom apps. > 7.6.4 SP5 mainly WUT > MSSQL 2005 > Win 2003 > > We are not using Best Practice Mode. So no Overlay > > #1 Weird occurrence: > > My colleague disabled an Active Link. But still it is triggering. In the > logs, we see the AL being triggered. It is the same name but with a bunch > of numbers following the name. If we do a search on Dev studio for that > particular name with those number we can't find it. Just the one without > the numbers. And that one is disabled in both Dev and Best Practice Mode. > > Regardless of restarting the server, closing the WUT and relogin, clearing > the WUT cache, the AL regardless is triggering and showing up in the Logs. > > > #2 occurrence > I deleted an AL (different one). Still in Dev mode. The AL still > triggered. Still showed in the logs. > Regardless of restarting the server, closing the WUT and relogin, clearing > the WUT cache, the AL regardless is triggering and showing up in the Logs. > > But if I looked for it in dev studio it was no longer there. > > #3 > This morning, the deleted AL is no longer showing in the logs and all is > working fine for now... > > > Anyone experienced ghostly AL? > > > Thank you, > > Pascale Sterrett > Kenavo ar wech all > > > If you are not the intended addressee, please inform us immediately that > you have received this e-mail in error, and delete it. We thank you for > your cooperation. > > ___ > UNSUBSCRIBE or access ARSlist Archives at www.arslist.org > "Where the Answers Are, and have been for 20 years" > ___ UNSUBSCRIBE or access ARSlist Archives at www.arslist.org "Where the Answers Are, and have been for 20 years"
Re: A little bit early for Halloween or a little late for Friday the 13th
It sounds like an issue with the server cache getting jacked up. I wonder what would've happened if you re-enabled the AL. That would force a recache (I think). Tauf Chowdhury > On Sep 20, 2013, at 9:44 AM, "pascale.sterr...@daimler.com" > wrote: > > Hi all, > > This will sound like a Friday joke but it is not > > We just have a little bit of the spooky weird one here. And I wonder if > anyone else had this kind of weird behavior. > I just want to know if there is a step of cache clearing/cleaning we > missed > > We are 100% custom apps. > 7.6.4 SP5 mainly WUT > MSSQL 2005 > Win 2003 > > We are not using Best Practice Mode. So no Overlay > > #1 Weird occurrence: > > My colleague disabled an Active Link. But still it is triggering. In the > logs, we see the AL being triggered. It is the same name but with a bunch > of numbers following the name. If we do a search on Dev studio for that > particular name with those number we can't find it. Just the one without > the numbers. And that one is disabled in both Dev and Best Practice Mode. > > Regardless of restarting the server, closing the WUT and relogin, clearing > the WUT cache, the AL regardless is triggering and showing up in the Logs. > > > #2 occurrence > I deleted an AL (different one). Still in Dev mode. The AL still > triggered. Still showed in the logs. > Regardless of restarting the server, closing the WUT and relogin, clearing > the WUT cache, the AL regardless is triggering and showing up in the Logs. > > But if I looked for it in dev studio it was no longer there. > > #3 > This morning, the deleted AL is no longer showing in the logs and all is > working fine for now... > > > Anyone experienced ghostly AL? > > > Thank you, > > Pascale Sterrett > Kenavo ar wech all > > > If you are not the intended addressee, please inform us immediately that you > have received this e-mail in error, and delete it. We thank you for your > cooperation. > ___ > UNSUBSCRIBE or access ARSlist Archives at www.arslist.org > "Where the Answers Are, and have been for 20 years" ___ UNSUBSCRIBE or access ARSlist Archives at www.arslist.org "Where the Answers Are, and have been for 20 years"
Re: A little bit early for Halloween or a little late for Friday the 13th
One is a WUT issue, the other on the Mid Tier. The deleted AL that kept showing up was on the WUT only. That one all by itself is fixed. The Deleted AL is not longer showing up in the logs. With absolutely nothing being done on our side. (I can hear the twilight zone music playing in the background) The other AL, beind disabled but still triggering, is for both WUT and Mid Tier apps. So that one, may be a load balancing issue. We will look into that one. dave.shell...@te.com Sent by: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG 09/20/2013 12:18 PM Please respond to arslist@ARSLIST.ORG To arslist@ARSLIST.ORG cc Subject Re: A little bit early for Halloween or a little late for Friday the 13th Pascale, You said this was the Windows User Tool? If so were all windows for that form closed before loading the form again? I've gotten bite once or twice by forgetting I had the form open in another window in the WUT. Dave -Original Message- From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) [mailto:arslist@ARSLIST.ORG] On Behalf Of pascale.sterr...@daimler.com Sent: Friday, September 20, 2013 3:05 PM To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG Subject: Re: A little bit early for Halloween or a little late for Friday the 13th Hi Joe, That is Dev and it is a simple set field, which I know exactly where and what to look for at the DB level. I just don't want to go there at this point. I am trying to find out (if possible) what happened (and why). If there is a step we missed on the cleaning/flushing, bitting the head of the chicken, spinning on our heads, incantations, etc. If anyone else encountered something similar. There is obviously something corrupted. jdso...@shyle.net Sent by: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG 09/20/2013 11:29 AM Please respond to arslist@ARSLIST.ORG To arslist@ARSLIST.ORG cc Subject Re: A little bit early for Halloween or a little late for Friday the 13th What environment are you facing that on? Dev? Test/QA/Staging? Prod? Even if it is production, since its only an active link - less of an impact as opposed to a filter, delete the offending AL, re-cache the Mid-Tier and see if it still shows up or fires.. Take a backup of the AL before deleting. If it still fires post deleting, then I may have a few suggestions to look up in the data tables where data related to active links is stored.. I'd need to know what actions are in it to be able to guide you to what you should be looking for. Cheers Joe -Original Message- From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) [mailto:arslist@ARSLIST.ORG] On Behalf Of pascale.sterr...@daimler.com Sent: Friday, September 20, 2013 2:21 PM To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG Subject: Re: A little bit early for Halloween or a little late for Friday the 13th This is a copy/paste of the name. And this is a new application that only exists only on a dev server. nowhere else. I wish it would have been that simple Thank you, Pascale Sterrett Kenavo ar wech all jdso...@shyle.net Sent by: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG 09/20/2013 10:47 AM Please respond to arslist@ARSLIST.ORG To arslist@ARSLIST.ORG cc Subject Re: A little bit early for Halloween or a little late for Friday the 13th Or you man *think* it's the same active link because it almost looks similar to a human eye. Did you look at your AL log by looking for the AL name by doing a find by the exact name? There must be a sort of a duplicate with a similar name that you are seeing in your logs that is firing? Or maybe you are disabling it in one environment and testing results in another? Cheers Joe -Original Message- From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) [mailto:arslist@ARSLIST.ORG] On Behalf Of pascale.sterr...@daimler.com Sent: Friday, September 20, 2013 12:01 PM To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG Subject: Re: A little bit early for Halloween or a little late for Friday the 13th That was one of our first step. And did not change anything. taufc...@gmail.com Sent by: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG 09/20/2013 08:48 AM Please respond to arslist@ARSLIST.ORG To arslist@ARSLIST.ORG cc Subject Re: A little bit early for Halloween or a little late for Friday the 13th It sounds like an issue with the server cache getting jacked up. I wonder what would've happened if you re-enabled the AL. That would force a recache (I think). Tauf Chowdhury > On Sep 20, 2013, at 9:44 AM, "pascale.sterr...@daimler.com" wrote: > > Hi all, > > This will sound like a Friday joke but it is not > > We just have a little bit of the spooky weird one here. And I wonder if > anyone else had this kind of weird behavior. > I just want to know if there is a step of cache clearing/cleaning we > missed > > We are 100% custom apps. > 7.6.4 SP5 mainly WUT > MSSQL 2005 > Win 2003 > > We are not using Best Practice Mode. So no Overlay > > #1 Weird occurrence: > > My colleague disabled an Active Link. But s
Re: A little bit early for Halloween or a little late for Friday the 13th
The mid-tier cache is somehow not being reset. One thing I can think of is
that if you have changed the user that starts the web server, and that user
can read the old cache but cant write or update it and the directory the
cache gets built in, that could potentially happen..
Cheers
Joe
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the 13th
no server group.
No load balancing cache issue either.
Further testing. On the WUT, the disabled AL is no longer firing... we
are making progress. But on the Mid Tier it is still firing, with the AL
showing in the log with the same name as in dev studio, but with the
number 1379705620484150 at the end of the name.
bauti...@bullcreek.com
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** If you are running a server group in DEV (great but not common in my
experience), and you want to synch server cache across all the servers in
the group then you would want to run the arsignal command:
arsignal (arsignal.exe)
Description
The arsignal utility forces an AR System server to load or reload
information. The process can be run on any machine.
Synopsis
arsignal {-c|-g|-l|-a} [:port][sigArgument]
The server name identifies the server that is to reload information. If a
TCP
port is to be specified as well (needed if the server does not register
with
AR System Portmapper), it is appended to the server name, separated by a
colon. The string
sigArgument is applicable when using the -a option.
From: pascale.sterr...@daimler.com
Sent: Friday, September 20, 2013 2:52 PM
To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
Subject: Re: A little bit early for Halloween or a little late for Friday
the 13th
One is a WUT issue, the other on the Mid Tier.
The deleted AL that kept showing up was on the WUT only. That one all by
itself is fixed. The Deleted AL is not longer showing up in the logs.
With absolutely nothing being done on our side.
(I can hear the twilight zone music playing in the background)
The other AL, beind disabled but still triggering, is for both WUT and Mid
Tier apps. So that one, may be a load balancing issue. We will look into
that one.
dave.shell...@te.com
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Pascale,
You said this was the Windows User Tool? If so were all windows for that
form closed before loading the form again?
I've gotten bite once or twice by forgetting I had the form open in
another window in the WUT.
Dave
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the 13th
Hi Joe,
That is Dev and it is a simple set field, which I know exactly where and
what to look for at the DB level. I just don't want to go there at this
point.
I am trying to find out (if possible) what happened (and why). If there
is a step we missed on the cleaning/flushing, bitting the head of the
chicken, spinning on our heads, incantations, etc. If anyone else
encountered something similar. There is obviously something corrupted.
jdso...@shyle.net
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What environment are you facing that on? Dev? Test/QA/Staging? Prod?
Even if it is production, since its only an active link - less of an
impact
as opposed to a filter, delete the offending AL, re-cache the Mid-Tier and
see if it still shows up or fires..
Take a backup of the AL before deleting.
If it still fires post deleting, then I may have a few suggestions to look
up in the data tables where data related to active links is stored.. I'd
need to know what actions are in it to be able to guide you to what you
should be looking for.
Cheers
Joe
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Sent: Friday, September 20, 2013 2:21 PM
To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
Subject: Re: A little bit early for Halloween or a little late for Friday
the 13th
This is a copy/paste of the name.
And this is a new application that only exists only on a dev server.
nowhere else.
I wish it would have been that s
Re: A little bit early for Halloween or a little late for Friday the 13th
Pascale, You said this was the Windows User Tool? If so were all windows for that form closed before loading the form again? I've gotten bite once or twice by forgetting I had the form open in another window in the WUT. Dave -Original Message- From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) [mailto:arslist@ARSLIST.ORG] On Behalf Of pascale.sterr...@daimler.com Sent: Friday, September 20, 2013 3:05 PM To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG Subject: Re: A little bit early for Halloween or a little late for Friday the 13th Hi Joe, That is Dev and it is a simple set field, which I know exactly where and what to look for at the DB level. I just don't want to go there at this point. I am trying to find out (if possible) what happened (and why). If there is a step we missed on the cleaning/flushing, bitting the head of the chicken, spinning on our heads, incantations, etc. If anyone else encountered something similar. There is obviously something corrupted. jdso...@shyle.net Sent by: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG 09/20/2013 11:29 AM Please respond to arslist@ARSLIST.ORG To arslist@ARSLIST.ORG cc Subject Re: A little bit early for Halloween or a little late for Friday the 13th What environment are you facing that on? Dev? Test/QA/Staging? Prod? Even if it is production, since its only an active link - less of an impact as opposed to a filter, delete the offending AL, re-cache the Mid-Tier and see if it still shows up or fires.. Take a backup of the AL before deleting. If it still fires post deleting, then I may have a few suggestions to look up in the data tables where data related to active links is stored.. I'd need to know what actions are in it to be able to guide you to what you should be looking for. Cheers Joe -Original Message- From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) [mailto:arslist@ARSLIST.ORG] On Behalf Of pascale.sterr...@daimler.com Sent: Friday, September 20, 2013 2:21 PM To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG Subject: Re: A little bit early for Halloween or a little late for Friday the 13th This is a copy/paste of the name. And this is a new application that only exists only on a dev server. nowhere else. I wish it would have been that simple Thank you, Pascale Sterrett Kenavo ar wech all jdso...@shyle.net Sent by: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG 09/20/2013 10:47 AM Please respond to arslist@ARSLIST.ORG To arslist@ARSLIST.ORG cc Subject Re: A little bit early for Halloween or a little late for Friday the 13th Or you man *think* it's the same active link because it almost looks similar to a human eye. Did you look at your AL log by looking for the AL name by doing a find by the exact name? There must be a sort of a duplicate with a similar name that you are seeing in your logs that is firing? Or maybe you are disabling it in one environment and testing results in another? Cheers Joe -Original Message- From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) [mailto:arslist@ARSLIST.ORG] On Behalf Of pascale.sterr...@daimler.com Sent: Friday, September 20, 2013 12:01 PM To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG Subject: Re: A little bit early for Halloween or a little late for Friday the 13th That was one of our first step. And did not change anything. taufc...@gmail.com Sent by: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG 09/20/2013 08:48 AM Please respond to arslist@ARSLIST.ORG To arslist@ARSLIST.ORG cc Subject Re: A little bit early for Halloween or a little late for Friday the 13th It sounds like an issue with the server cache getting jacked up. I wonder what would've happened if you re-enabled the AL. That would force a recache (I think). Tauf Chowdhury > On Sep 20, 2013, at 9:44 AM, "pascale.sterr...@daimler.com" wrote: > > Hi all, > > This will sound like a Friday joke but it is not > > We just have a little bit of the spooky weird one here. And I wonder if > anyone else had this kind of weird behavior. > I just want to know if there is a step of cache clearing/cleaning we > missed > > We are 100% custom apps. > 7.6.4 SP5 mainly WUT > MSSQL 2005 > Win 2003 > > We are not using Best Practice Mode. So no Overlay > > #1 Weird occurrence: > > My colleague disabled an Active Link. But still it is triggering. In the > logs, we see the AL being triggered. It is the same name but with a bunch > of numbers following the name. If we do a search on Dev studio for that > particular name with those number we can't find it. Just the one without > the numbers. And that one is disabled in both Dev and Best Practice Mode. > > Regardless of restarting the server, closing the WUT and relogin, clearing > the WUT cache, the AL regardless is triggering and showing up in the Logs. > > > #2 occurrence > I deleted an AL (different one). Still in Dev mode. The AL still > triggered. Still showed in the logs. > Regardless of restarting
Re: A little bit early for Halloween or a little late for Friday the 13th
If you are running a server group in DEV (great but not common in my
experience), and you want to synch server cache across all the servers in
the group then you would want to run the arsignal command:
arsignal (arsignal.exe) Description The arsignal utility forces an
AR System server to load or reload
information. The process can be run on any machine.
Synopsis arsignal {-c|-g|-l|-a} [:port][sigArgument]
The server name identifies the server that is to reload information. If a
TCP port is to be specified as well (needed if the server does not register
with AR System Portmapper), it is appended to the server name, separated by
a
colon. The string
sigArgument is applicable when using the -a option.
From: pascale.sterr...@daimler.com
Sent: Friday, September 20, 2013 2:52 PM
To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
Subject: Re: A little bit early for Halloween or a little late for Friday
the 13th
One is a WUT issue, the other on the Mid Tier.
The deleted AL that kept showing up was on the WUT only. That one all by
itself is fixed. The Deleted AL is not longer showing up in the logs.
With absolutely nothing being done on our side.
(I can hear the twilight zone music playing in the background)
The other AL, beind disabled but still triggering, is for both WUT and Mid
Tier apps. So that one, may be a load balancing issue. We will look into
that one.
dave.shell...@te.com
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Pascale,
You said this was the Windows User Tool? If so were all windows for that
form closed before loading the form again?
I've gotten bite once or twice by forgetting I had the form open in
another window in the WUT.
Dave
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To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
Subject: Re: A little bit early for Halloween or a little late for Friday
the 13th
Hi Joe,
That is Dev and it is a simple set field, which I know exactly where and
what to look for at the DB level. I just don't want to go there at this
point.
I am trying to find out (if possible) what happened (and why). If there
is a step we missed on the cleaning/flushing, bitting the head of the
chicken, spinning on our heads, incantations, etc. If anyone else
encountered something similar. There is obviously something corrupted.
jdso...@shyle.net
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What environment are you facing that on? Dev? Test/QA/Staging? Prod?
Even if it is production, since its only an active link - less of an
impact
as opposed to a filter, delete the offending AL, re-cache the Mid-Tier and
see if it still shows up or fires..
Take a backup of the AL before deleting.
If it still fires post deleting, then I may have a few suggestions to look
up in the data tables where data related to active links is stored.. I'd
need to know what actions are in it to be able to guide you to what you
should be looking for.
Cheers
Joe
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Sent: Friday, September 20, 2013 2:21 PM
To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
Subject: Re: A little bit early for Halloween or a little late for Friday
the 13th
This is a copy/paste of the name.
And this is a new application that only exists only on a dev server.
nowhere else.
I wish it would have been that simple
Thank you,
Pascale Sterrett
Kenavo ar wech all
jdso...@shyle.net
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Or you man *think* it's the same active link because it almost looks
similar
to a human eye. Did you look at your AL log by looking for the AL name by
doing a find by the exact name? There must be a sort of a duplicate with a
similar name that you are seeing in your logs that is firing?
Or maybe you are disabling it in one environment and testing results in
another?
Cheers
Joe
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the 13th
That was one of our first step. And did not change anything.
taufc...@gmail.com
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Re: A little bit early for Halloween or a little late for Friday the 13th
This is a copy/paste of the name. And this is a new application that only exists only on a dev server. nowhere else. I wish it would have been that simple Thank you, Pascale Sterrett Kenavo ar wech all jdso...@shyle.net Sent by: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG 09/20/2013 10:47 AM Please respond to arslist@ARSLIST.ORG To arslist@ARSLIST.ORG cc Subject Re: A little bit early for Halloween or a little late for Friday the 13th Or you man *think* it's the same active link because it almost looks similar to a human eye. Did you look at your AL log by looking for the AL name by doing a find by the exact name? There must be a sort of a duplicate with a similar name that you are seeing in your logs that is firing? Or maybe you are disabling it in one environment and testing results in another? Cheers Joe -Original Message- From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) [mailto:arslist@ARSLIST.ORG] On Behalf Of pascale.sterr...@daimler.com Sent: Friday, September 20, 2013 12:01 PM To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG Subject: Re: A little bit early for Halloween or a little late for Friday the 13th That was one of our first step. And did not change anything. taufc...@gmail.com Sent by: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG 09/20/2013 08:48 AM Please respond to arslist@ARSLIST.ORG To arslist@ARSLIST.ORG cc Subject Re: A little bit early for Halloween or a little late for Friday the 13th It sounds like an issue with the server cache getting jacked up. I wonder what would've happened if you re-enabled the AL. That would force a recache (I think). Tauf Chowdhury > On Sep 20, 2013, at 9:44 AM, "pascale.sterr...@daimler.com" wrote: > > Hi all, > > This will sound like a Friday joke but it is not > > We just have a little bit of the spooky weird one here. And I wonder if > anyone else had this kind of weird behavior. > I just want to know if there is a step of cache clearing/cleaning we > missed > > We are 100% custom apps. > 7.6.4 SP5 mainly WUT > MSSQL 2005 > Win 2003 > > We are not using Best Practice Mode. So no Overlay > > #1 Weird occurrence: > > My colleague disabled an Active Link. But still it is triggering. In the > logs, we see the AL being triggered. It is the same name but with a bunch > of numbers following the name. If we do a search on Dev studio for that > particular name with those number we can't find it. Just the one without > the numbers. And that one is disabled in both Dev and Best Practice Mode. > > Regardless of restarting the server, closing the WUT and relogin, clearing > the WUT cache, the AL regardless is triggering and showing up in the Logs. > > > #2 occurrence > I deleted an AL (different one). Still in Dev mode. The AL still > triggered. Still showed in the logs. > Regardless of restarting the server, closing the WUT and relogin, clearing > the WUT cache, the AL regardless is triggering and showing up in the Logs. > > But if I looked for it in dev studio it was no longer there. > > #3 > This morning, the deleted AL is no longer showing in the logs and all is > working fine for now... > > > Anyone experienced ghostly AL? > > > Thank you, > > Pascale Sterrett > Kenavo ar wech all > > > If you are not the intended addressee, please inform us immediately that you have received this e-mail in error, and delete it. We thank you for your cooperation. > ___ > UNSUBSCRIBE or access ARSlist Archives at www.arslist.org > "Where the Answers Are, and have been for 20 years" ___ UNSUBSCRIBE or access ARSlist Archives at www.arslist.org "Where the Answers Are, and have been for 20 years" If you are not the intended addressee, please inform us immediately that you have received this e-mail in error, and delete it. We thank you for your cooperation. ___ UNSUBSCRIBE or access ARSlist Archives at www.arslist.org "Where the Answers Are, and have been for 20 years" ___ UNSUBSCRIBE or access ARSlist Archives at www.arslist.org "Where the Answers Are, and have been for 20 years" If you are not the intended addressee, please inform us immediately that you have received this e-mail in error, and delete it. We thank you for your cooperation. ___ UNSUBSCRIBE or access ARSlist Archives at www.arslist.org "Where the Answers Are, and have been for 20 years"
Re: A little bit early for Halloween or a little late for Friday the 13th
That was one of our first step. And did not change anything. taufc...@gmail.com Sent by: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG 09/20/2013 08:48 AM Please respond to arslist@ARSLIST.ORG To arslist@ARSLIST.ORG cc Subject Re: A little bit early for Halloween or a little late for Friday the 13th It sounds like an issue with the server cache getting jacked up. I wonder what would've happened if you re-enabled the AL. That would force a recache (I think). Tauf Chowdhury > On Sep 20, 2013, at 9:44 AM, "pascale.sterr...@daimler.com" wrote: > > Hi all, > > This will sound like a Friday joke but it is not > > We just have a little bit of the spooky weird one here. And I wonder if > anyone else had this kind of weird behavior. > I just want to know if there is a step of cache clearing/cleaning we > missed > > We are 100% custom apps. > 7.6.4 SP5 mainly WUT > MSSQL 2005 > Win 2003 > > We are not using Best Practice Mode. So no Overlay > > #1 Weird occurrence: > > My colleague disabled an Active Link. But still it is triggering. In the > logs, we see the AL being triggered. It is the same name but with a bunch > of numbers following the name. If we do a search on Dev studio for that > particular name with those number we can't find it. Just the one without > the numbers. And that one is disabled in both Dev and Best Practice Mode. > > Regardless of restarting the server, closing the WUT and relogin, clearing > the WUT cache, the AL regardless is triggering and showing up in the Logs. > > > #2 occurrence > I deleted an AL (different one). Still in Dev mode. The AL still > triggered. Still showed in the logs. > Regardless of restarting the server, closing the WUT and relogin, clearing > the WUT cache, the AL regardless is triggering and showing up in the Logs. > > But if I looked for it in dev studio it was no longer there. > > #3 > This morning, the deleted AL is no longer showing in the logs and all is > working fine for now... > > > Anyone experienced ghostly AL? > > > Thank you, > > Pascale Sterrett > Kenavo ar wech all > > > If you are not the intended addressee, please inform us immediately that you have received this e-mail in error, and delete it. We thank you for your cooperation. > ___ > UNSUBSCRIBE or access ARSlist Archives at www.arslist.org > "Where the Answers Are, and have been for 20 years" ___ UNSUBSCRIBE or access ARSlist Archives at www.arslist.org "Where the Answers Are, and have been for 20 years" If you are not the intended addressee, please inform us immediately that you have received this e-mail in error, and delete it. We thank you for your cooperation. ___ UNSUBSCRIBE or access ARSlist Archives at www.arslist.org "Where the Answers Are, and have been for 20 years"
Re: A little bit early for Halloween or a little late for Friday the 13th
What environment are you facing that on? Dev? Test/QA/Staging? Prod? Even if it is production, since its only an active link - less of an impact as opposed to a filter, delete the offending AL, re-cache the Mid-Tier and see if it still shows up or fires.. Take a backup of the AL before deleting. If it still fires post deleting, then I may have a few suggestions to look up in the data tables where data related to active links is stored.. I'd need to know what actions are in it to be able to guide you to what you should be looking for. Cheers Joe -Original Message- From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) [mailto:arslist@ARSLIST.ORG] On Behalf Of pascale.sterr...@daimler.com Sent: Friday, September 20, 2013 2:21 PM To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG Subject: Re: A little bit early for Halloween or a little late for Friday the 13th This is a copy/paste of the name. And this is a new application that only exists only on a dev server. nowhere else. I wish it would have been that simple Thank you, Pascale Sterrett Kenavo ar wech all jdso...@shyle.net Sent by: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG 09/20/2013 10:47 AM Please respond to arslist@ARSLIST.ORG To arslist@ARSLIST.ORG cc Subject Re: A little bit early for Halloween or a little late for Friday the 13th Or you man *think* it's the same active link because it almost looks similar to a human eye. Did you look at your AL log by looking for the AL name by doing a find by the exact name? There must be a sort of a duplicate with a similar name that you are seeing in your logs that is firing? Or maybe you are disabling it in one environment and testing results in another? Cheers Joe -Original Message- From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) [mailto:arslist@ARSLIST.ORG] On Behalf Of pascale.sterr...@daimler.com Sent: Friday, September 20, 2013 12:01 PM To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG Subject: Re: A little bit early for Halloween or a little late for Friday the 13th That was one of our first step. And did not change anything. taufc...@gmail.com Sent by: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG 09/20/2013 08:48 AM Please respond to arslist@ARSLIST.ORG To arslist@ARSLIST.ORG cc Subject Re: A little bit early for Halloween or a little late for Friday the 13th It sounds like an issue with the server cache getting jacked up. I wonder what would've happened if you re-enabled the AL. That would force a recache (I think). Tauf Chowdhury > On Sep 20, 2013, at 9:44 AM, "pascale.sterr...@daimler.com" wrote: > > Hi all, > > This will sound like a Friday joke but it is not > > We just have a little bit of the spooky weird one here. And I wonder if > anyone else had this kind of weird behavior. > I just want to know if there is a step of cache clearing/cleaning we > missed > > We are 100% custom apps. > 7.6.4 SP5 mainly WUT > MSSQL 2005 > Win 2003 > > We are not using Best Practice Mode. So no Overlay > > #1 Weird occurrence: > > My colleague disabled an Active Link. But still it is triggering. In the > logs, we see the AL being triggered. It is the same name but with a bunch > of numbers following the name. If we do a search on Dev studio for that > particular name with those number we can't find it. Just the one without > the numbers. And that one is disabled in both Dev and Best Practice Mode. > > Regardless of restarting the server, closing the WUT and relogin, clearing > the WUT cache, the AL regardless is triggering and showing up in the Logs. > > > #2 occurrence > I deleted an AL (different one). Still in Dev mode. The AL still > triggered. Still showed in the logs. > Regardless of restarting the server, closing the WUT and relogin, clearing > the WUT cache, the AL regardless is triggering and showing up in the Logs. > > But if I looked for it in dev studio it was no longer there. > > #3 > This morning, the deleted AL is no longer showing in the logs and all is > working fine for now... > > > Anyone experienced ghostly AL? > > > Thank you, > > Pascale Sterrett > Kenavo ar wech all > > > If you are not the intended addressee, please inform us immediately that you have received this e-mail in error, and delete it. We thank you for your cooperation. > ___ > UNSUBSCRIBE or access ARSlist Archives at www.arslist.org > "Where the Answers Are, and have been for 20 years" ___ UNSUBSCRIBE or access ARSlist Archives at www.arslist.org "Where the Answers Are, and have been for 20 years" If you are not the intended addressee, please inform us immediately that you have received this e-mail in error, and delete it. We than
Re: A little bit early for Halloween or a little late for Friday the 13th
no server group.
No load balancing cache issue either.
Further testing. On the WUT, the disabled AL is no longer firing... we
are making progress. But on the Mid Tier it is still firing, with the AL
showing in the log with the same name as in dev studio, but with the
number 1379705620484150 at the end of the name.
bauti...@bullcreek.com
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** If you are running a server group in DEV (great but not common in my
experience), and you want to synch server cache across all the servers in
the group then you would want to run the arsignal command:
arsignal (arsignal.exe)
Description
The arsignal utility forces an AR System server to load or reload
information. The process can be run on any machine.
Synopsis
arsignal {-c|-g|-l|-a} [:port][sigArgument]
The server name identifies the server that is to reload information. If a
TCP
port is to be specified as well (needed if the server does not register
with
AR System Portmapper), it is appended to the server name, separated by a
colon. The string
sigArgument is applicable when using the -a option.
From: pascale.sterr...@daimler.com
Sent: Friday, September 20, 2013 2:52 PM
To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
Subject: Re: A little bit early for Halloween or a little late for Friday
the 13th
One is a WUT issue, the other on the Mid Tier.
The deleted AL that kept showing up was on the WUT only. That one all by
itself is fixed. The Deleted AL is not longer showing up in the logs.
With absolutely nothing being done on our side.
(I can hear the twilight zone music playing in the background)
The other AL, beind disabled but still triggering, is for both WUT and Mid
Tier apps. So that one, may be a load balancing issue. We will look into
that one.
dave.shell...@te.com
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Pascale,
You said this was the Windows User Tool? If so were all windows for that
form closed before loading the form again?
I've gotten bite once or twice by forgetting I had the form open in
another window in the WUT.
Dave
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Sent: Friday, September 20, 2013 3:05 PM
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Subject: Re: A little bit early for Halloween or a little late for Friday
the 13th
Hi Joe,
That is Dev and it is a simple set field, which I know exactly where and
what to look for at the DB level. I just don't want to go there at this
point.
I am trying to find out (if possible) what happened (and why). If there
is a step we missed on the cleaning/flushing, bitting the head of the
chicken, spinning on our heads, incantations, etc. If anyone else
encountered something similar. There is obviously something corrupted.
jdso...@shyle.net
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What environment are you facing that on? Dev? Test/QA/Staging? Prod?
Even if it is production, since its only an active link - less of an
impact
as opposed to a filter, delete the offending AL, re-cache the Mid-Tier and
see if it still shows up or fires..
Take a backup of the AL before deleting.
If it still fires post deleting, then I may have a few suggestions to look
up in the data tables where data related to active links is stored.. I'd
need to know what actions are in it to be able to guide you to what you
should be looking for.
Cheers
Joe
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Sent: Friday, September 20, 2013 2:21 PM
To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
Subject: Re: A little bit early for Halloween or a little late for Friday
the 13th
This is a copy/paste of the name.
And this is a new application that only exists only on a dev server.
nowhere else.
I wish it would have been that simple
Thank you,
Pascale Sterrett
Kenavo ar wech all
jdso...@shyle.net
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Or you man *think* it's the same active link because it almost looks
similar
to a human eye. Did you look at your AL log by looking for the AL name by
doing a find by the exact name? There must be a sort of a duplicate with a
similar name that you are seeing in your logs that is firing?
Or maybe you are
Re: A little bit early for Halloween or a little late for Friday the 13th
hmmm.. Will verify that. jdso...@shyle.net Sent by: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG 09/20/2013 12:19 PM Please respond to arslist@ARSLIST.ORG To arslist@ARSLIST.ORG cc Subject Re: A little bit early for Halloween or a little late for Friday the 13th The only thing that comes to my mind is sometimes in a load balanced environment, some load balancers keep a copy of the mid-tier cache. Check out with the load balancer guys to see if its doing that.. Cheers Joe -Original Message- From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) [mailto:arslist@ARSLIST.ORG] On Behalf Of pascale.sterr...@daimler.com Sent: Friday, September 20, 2013 3:05 PM To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG Subject: Re: A little bit early for Halloween or a little late for Friday the 13th Hi Joe, That is Dev and it is a simple set field, which I know exactly where and what to look for at the DB level. I just don't want to go there at this point. I am trying to find out (if possible) what happened (and why). If there is a step we missed on the cleaning/flushing, bitting the head of the chicken, spinning on our heads, incantations, etc. If anyone else encountered something similar. There is obviously something corrupted. jdso...@shyle.net Sent by: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG 09/20/2013 11:29 AM Please respond to arslist@ARSLIST.ORG To arslist@ARSLIST.ORG cc Subject Re: A little bit early for Halloween or a little late for Friday the 13th What environment are you facing that on? Dev? Test/QA/Staging? Prod? Even if it is production, since its only an active link - less of an impact as opposed to a filter, delete the offending AL, re-cache the Mid-Tier and see if it still shows up or fires.. Take a backup of the AL before deleting. If it still fires post deleting, then I may have a few suggestions to look up in the data tables where data related to active links is stored.. I'd need to know what actions are in it to be able to guide you to what you should be looking for. Cheers Joe -Original Message- From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) [mailto:arslist@ARSLIST.ORG] On Behalf Of pascale.sterr...@daimler.com Sent: Friday, September 20, 2013 2:21 PM To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG Subject: Re: A little bit early for Halloween or a little late for Friday the 13th This is a copy/paste of the name. And this is a new application that only exists only on a dev server. nowhere else. I wish it would have been that simple Thank you, Pascale Sterrett Kenavo ar wech all jdso...@shyle.net Sent by: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG 09/20/2013 10:47 AM Please respond to arslist@ARSLIST.ORG To arslist@ARSLIST.ORG cc Subject Re: A little bit early for Halloween or a little late for Friday the 13th Or you man *think* it's the same active link because it almost looks similar to a human eye. Did you look at your AL log by looking for the AL name by doing a find by the exact name? There must be a sort of a duplicate with a similar name that you are seeing in your logs that is firing? Or maybe you are disabling it in one environment and testing results in another? Cheers Joe -Original Message- From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) [mailto:arslist@ARSLIST.ORG] On Behalf Of pascale.sterr...@daimler.com Sent: Friday, September 20, 2013 12:01 PM To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG Subject: Re: A little bit early for Halloween or a little late for Friday the 13th That was one of our first step. And did not change anything. taufc...@gmail.com Sent by: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG 09/20/2013 08:48 AM Please respond to arslist@ARSLIST.ORG To arslist@ARSLIST.ORG cc Subject Re: A little bit early for Halloween or a little late for Friday the 13th It sounds like an issue with the server cache getting jacked up. I wonder what would've happened if you re-enabled the AL. That would force a recache (I think). Tauf Chowdhury > On Sep 20, 2013, at 9:44 AM, "pascale.sterr...@daimler.com" wrote: > > Hi all, > > This will sound like a Friday joke but it is not > > We just have a little bit of the spooky weird one here. And I wonder if > anyone else had this kind of weird behavior. > I just want to know if there is a step of cache clearing/cleaning we > missed > > We are 100% custom apps. > 7.6.4 SP5 mainly WUT > MSSQL 2005 > Win 2003 > > We are not using Best Practice Mode. So no Overlay > > #1 Weird occurrence: > > My colleague disabled an Active Link. But still it is triggering. In the > logs, we see the AL being triggered. It is the same name but with a bunch > of numbers following the name. If we do a search on Dev studio for that > particular name with those number we can't find it. Just the one without > the numbers. And that one is disabled in both Dev and Best Practice Mode. > > Regardless of restarting the server, closing the WUT and relogin, clearing > the WUT cache, the AL
Re: A little bit early for Halloween or a little late for Friday the 13th
Sorry, reread the original email and see that the server has been restarted, WUT closed and new login, etc. Dave -Original Message- From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) [mailto:arslist@ARSLIST.ORG] On Behalf Of Shellman, David Sent: Friday, September 20, 2013 3:18 PM To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG Subject: Re: A little bit early for Halloween or a little late for Friday the 13th Pascale, You said this was the Windows User Tool? If so were all windows for that form closed before loading the form again? I've gotten bite once or twice by forgetting I had the form open in another window in the WUT. Dave -Original Message- From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) [mailto:arslist@ARSLIST.ORG] On Behalf Of pascale.sterr...@daimler.com Sent: Friday, September 20, 2013 3:05 PM To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG Subject: Re: A little bit early for Halloween or a little late for Friday the 13th Hi Joe, That is Dev and it is a simple set field, which I know exactly where and what to look for at the DB level. I just don't want to go there at this point. I am trying to find out (if possible) what happened (and why). If there is a step we missed on the cleaning/flushing, bitting the head of the chicken, spinning on our heads, incantations, etc. If anyone else encountered something similar. There is obviously something corrupted. jdso...@shyle.net Sent by: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG 09/20/2013 11:29 AM Please respond to arslist@ARSLIST.ORG To arslist@ARSLIST.ORG cc Subject Re: A little bit early for Halloween or a little late for Friday the 13th What environment are you facing that on? Dev? Test/QA/Staging? Prod? Even if it is production, since its only an active link - less of an impact as opposed to a filter, delete the offending AL, re-cache the Mid-Tier and see if it still shows up or fires.. Take a backup of the AL before deleting. If it still fires post deleting, then I may have a few suggestions to look up in the data tables where data related to active links is stored.. I'd need to know what actions are in it to be able to guide you to what you should be looking for. Cheers Joe -Original Message- From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) [mailto:arslist@ARSLIST.ORG] On Behalf Of pascale.sterr...@daimler.com Sent: Friday, September 20, 2013 2:21 PM To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG Subject: Re: A little bit early for Halloween or a little late for Friday the 13th This is a copy/paste of the name. And this is a new application that only exists only on a dev server. nowhere else. I wish it would have been that simple Thank you, Pascale Sterrett Kenavo ar wech all jdso...@shyle.net Sent by: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG 09/20/2013 10:47 AM Please respond to arslist@ARSLIST.ORG To arslist@ARSLIST.ORG cc Subject Re: A little bit early for Halloween or a little late for Friday the 13th Or you man *think* it's the same active link because it almost looks similar to a human eye. Did you look at your AL log by looking for the AL name by doing a find by the exact name? There must be a sort of a duplicate with a similar name that you are seeing in your logs that is firing? Or maybe you are disabling it in one environment and testing results in another? Cheers Joe -Original Message- From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) [mailto:arslist@ARSLIST.ORG] On Behalf Of pascale.sterr...@daimler.com Sent: Friday, September 20, 2013 12:01 PM To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG Subject: Re: A little bit early for Halloween or a little late for Friday the 13th That was one of our first step. And did not change anything. taufc...@gmail.com Sent by: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG 09/20/2013 08:48 AM Please respond to arslist@ARSLIST.ORG To arslist@ARSLIST.ORG cc Subject Re: A little bit early for Halloween or a little late for Friday the 13th It sounds like an issue with the server cache getting jacked up. I wonder what would've happened if you re-enabled the AL. That would force a recache (I think). Tauf Chowdhury > On Sep 20, 2013, at 9:44 AM, "pascale.sterr...@daimler.com" wrote: > > Hi all, > > This will sound like a Friday joke but it is not > > We just have a little bit of the spooky weird one here. And I wonder if > anyone else had this kind of weird behavior. > I just want to know if there is a step of cache clearing/cleaning we > missed > > We are 100% custom apps. > 7.6.4 SP5 mainly WUT > MSSQL 2005 > Win 2003 > > We are not using Best Practice Mode. So no Overlay > > #1 Weird occurrence: > > My colleague disabled an Active Link. But still it is triggering. In the > logs, we see the AL being triggered. It is the same name but with a bunch > of numbers following the name. If we do a search on Dev studio for that > particular name with those number we can't find it. Just the one without > the numbe
Re: A little bit early for Halloween or a little late for Friday the 13th
The only thing that comes to my mind is sometimes in a load balanced environment, some load balancers keep a copy of the mid-tier cache. Check out with the load balancer guys to see if its doing that.. Cheers Joe -Original Message- From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) [mailto:arslist@ARSLIST.ORG] On Behalf Of pascale.sterr...@daimler.com Sent: Friday, September 20, 2013 3:05 PM To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG Subject: Re: A little bit early for Halloween or a little late for Friday the 13th Hi Joe, That is Dev and it is a simple set field, which I know exactly where and what to look for at the DB level. I just don't want to go there at this point. I am trying to find out (if possible) what happened (and why). If there is a step we missed on the cleaning/flushing, bitting the head of the chicken, spinning on our heads, incantations, etc. If anyone else encountered something similar. There is obviously something corrupted. jdso...@shyle.net Sent by: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG 09/20/2013 11:29 AM Please respond to arslist@ARSLIST.ORG To arslist@ARSLIST.ORG cc Subject Re: A little bit early for Halloween or a little late for Friday the 13th What environment are you facing that on? Dev? Test/QA/Staging? Prod? Even if it is production, since its only an active link - less of an impact as opposed to a filter, delete the offending AL, re-cache the Mid-Tier and see if it still shows up or fires.. Take a backup of the AL before deleting. If it still fires post deleting, then I may have a few suggestions to look up in the data tables where data related to active links is stored.. I'd need to know what actions are in it to be able to guide you to what you should be looking for. Cheers Joe -Original Message- From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) [mailto:arslist@ARSLIST.ORG] On Behalf Of pascale.sterr...@daimler.com Sent: Friday, September 20, 2013 2:21 PM To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG Subject: Re: A little bit early for Halloween or a little late for Friday the 13th This is a copy/paste of the name. And this is a new application that only exists only on a dev server. nowhere else. I wish it would have been that simple Thank you, Pascale Sterrett Kenavo ar wech all jdso...@shyle.net Sent by: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG 09/20/2013 10:47 AM Please respond to arslist@ARSLIST.ORG To arslist@ARSLIST.ORG cc Subject Re: A little bit early for Halloween or a little late for Friday the 13th Or you man *think* it's the same active link because it almost looks similar to a human eye. Did you look at your AL log by looking for the AL name by doing a find by the exact name? There must be a sort of a duplicate with a similar name that you are seeing in your logs that is firing? Or maybe you are disabling it in one environment and testing results in another? Cheers Joe -Original Message- From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) [mailto:arslist@ARSLIST.ORG] On Behalf Of pascale.sterr...@daimler.com Sent: Friday, September 20, 2013 12:01 PM To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG Subject: Re: A little bit early for Halloween or a little late for Friday the 13th That was one of our first step. And did not change anything. taufc...@gmail.com Sent by: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG 09/20/2013 08:48 AM Please respond to arslist@ARSLIST.ORG To arslist@ARSLIST.ORG cc Subject Re: A little bit early for Halloween or a little late for Friday the 13th It sounds like an issue with the server cache getting jacked up. I wonder what would've happened if you re-enabled the AL. That would force a recache (I think). Tauf Chowdhury > On Sep 20, 2013, at 9:44 AM, "pascale.sterr...@daimler.com" wrote: > > Hi all, > > This will sound like a Friday joke but it is not > > We just have a little bit of the spooky weird one here. And I wonder if > anyone else had this kind of weird behavior. > I just want to know if there is a step of cache clearing/cleaning we > missed > > We are 100% custom apps. > 7.6.4 SP5 mainly WUT > MSSQL 2005 > Win 2003 > > We are not using Best Practice Mode. So no Overlay > > #1 Weird occurrence: > > My colleague disabled an Active Link. But still it is triggering. In the > logs, we see the AL being triggered. It is the same name but with a bunch > of numbers following the name. If we do a search on Dev studio for that > particular name with those number we can't find it. Just the one without > the numbers. And that one is disabled in both Dev and Best Practice Mode. > > Regardless of restarting the server, closing the WUT and relogin, clearing > the WUT cache, the AL regardless is triggering and showing up in the Logs. > > > #2 occurrence > I deleted an AL (different one). Still in Dev mode. The AL still > triggered. Still showed in the logs. > Regardless of restarting the server, closing the W
Re: A little bit early for Halloween or a little late for Friday the 13th
Or you man *think* it's the same active link because it almost looks similar to a human eye. Did you look at your AL log by looking for the AL name by doing a find by the exact name? There must be a sort of a duplicate with a similar name that you are seeing in your logs that is firing? Or maybe you are disabling it in one environment and testing results in another? Cheers Joe -Original Message- From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) [mailto:arslist@ARSLIST.ORG] On Behalf Of pascale.sterr...@daimler.com Sent: Friday, September 20, 2013 12:01 PM To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG Subject: Re: A little bit early for Halloween or a little late for Friday the 13th That was one of our first step. And did not change anything. taufc...@gmail.com Sent by: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG 09/20/2013 08:48 AM Please respond to arslist@ARSLIST.ORG To arslist@ARSLIST.ORG cc Subject Re: A little bit early for Halloween or a little late for Friday the 13th It sounds like an issue with the server cache getting jacked up. I wonder what would've happened if you re-enabled the AL. That would force a recache (I think). Tauf Chowdhury > On Sep 20, 2013, at 9:44 AM, "pascale.sterr...@daimler.com" wrote: > > Hi all, > > This will sound like a Friday joke but it is not > > We just have a little bit of the spooky weird one here. And I wonder if > anyone else had this kind of weird behavior. > I just want to know if there is a step of cache clearing/cleaning we > missed > > We are 100% custom apps. > 7.6.4 SP5 mainly WUT > MSSQL 2005 > Win 2003 > > We are not using Best Practice Mode. So no Overlay > > #1 Weird occurrence: > > My colleague disabled an Active Link. But still it is triggering. In the > logs, we see the AL being triggered. It is the same name but with a bunch > of numbers following the name. If we do a search on Dev studio for that > particular name with those number we can't find it. Just the one without > the numbers. And that one is disabled in both Dev and Best Practice Mode. > > Regardless of restarting the server, closing the WUT and relogin, clearing > the WUT cache, the AL regardless is triggering and showing up in the Logs. > > > #2 occurrence > I deleted an AL (different one). Still in Dev mode. The AL still > triggered. Still showed in the logs. > Regardless of restarting the server, closing the WUT and relogin, clearing > the WUT cache, the AL regardless is triggering and showing up in the Logs. > > But if I looked for it in dev studio it was no longer there. > > #3 > This morning, the deleted AL is no longer showing in the logs and all is > working fine for now... > > > Anyone experienced ghostly AL? > > > Thank you, > > Pascale Sterrett > Kenavo ar wech all > > > If you are not the intended addressee, please inform us immediately that you have received this e-mail in error, and delete it. We thank you for your cooperation. > ___ > UNSUBSCRIBE or access ARSlist Archives at www.arslist.org > "Where the Answers Are, and have been for 20 years" ___ UNSUBSCRIBE or access ARSlist Archives at www.arslist.org "Where the Answers Are, and have been for 20 years" If you are not the intended addressee, please inform us immediately that you have received this e-mail in error, and delete it. We thank you for your cooperation. ___ UNSUBSCRIBE or access ARSlist Archives at www.arslist.org "Where the Answers Are, and have been for 20 years" ___ UNSUBSCRIBE or access ARSlist Archives at www.arslist.org "Where the Answers Are, and have been for 20 years"
Re: A little bit early for Halloween or a little late for Friday the 13th
Yes the Dev cache mode is on. And I made sure that I cleared the cache. Dev Studio Cache and the Client Cache too. Thank you, Pascale Sterrett Remedy Technical Lead & Developer Integration and Standard Process (IPS) Daimler Trucks North America LLC Montgomery Park, 9th floor Portland, OR 97210 U.S.A Phone:503-745-6569 Email:pascale.sterr...@daimler.com http://www.daimler-trucksnorthamerica.com Kenavo ar wech all remedyr...@gmail.com Sent by: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG 09/20/2013 09:36 AM Please respond to arslist@ARSLIST.ORG To arslist@ARSLIST.ORG cc Subject Re: A little bit early for Halloween or a little late for Friday the 13th ** Is Development Cache mode turned on? Remember that Active Links are cached to the clients as part of the Form definition. Rick On Sep 20, 2013 8:44 AM, wrote: Hi all, This will sound like a Friday joke but it is not We just have a little bit of the spooky weird one here. And I wonder if anyone else had this kind of weird behavior. I just want to know if there is a step of cache clearing/cleaning we missed We are 100% custom apps. 7.6.4 SP5 mainly WUT MSSQL 2005 Win 2003 We are not using Best Practice Mode. So no Overlay #1 Weird occurrence: My colleague disabled an Active Link. But still it is triggering. In the logs, we see the AL being triggered. It is the same name but with a bunch of numbers following the name. If we do a search on Dev studio for that particular name with those number we can't find it. Just the one without the numbers. And that one is disabled in both Dev and Best Practice Mode. Regardless of restarting the server, closing the WUT and relogin, clearing the WUT cache, the AL regardless is triggering and showing up in the Logs. #2 occurrence I deleted an AL (different one). Still in Dev mode. The AL still triggered. Still showed in the logs. Regardless of restarting the server, closing the WUT and relogin, clearing the WUT cache, the AL regardless is triggering and showing up in the Logs. But if I looked for it in dev studio it was no longer there. #3 This morning, the deleted AL is no longer showing in the logs and all is working fine for now... Anyone experienced ghostly AL? Thank you, Pascale Sterrett Kenavo ar wech all If you are not the intended addressee, please inform us immediately that you have received this e-mail in error, and delete it. We thank you for your cooperation. ___ UNSUBSCRIBE or access ARSlist Archives at www.arslist.org "Where the Answers Are, and have been for 20 years" _ARSlist: "Where the Answers Are" and have been for 20 years_ If you are not the intended addressee, please inform us immediately that you have received this e-mail in error, and delete it. We thank you for your cooperation. ___ UNSUBSCRIBE or access ARSlist Archives at www.arslist.org "Where the Answers Are, and have been for 20 years"
Re: A little bit early for Halloween or a little late for Friday the 13th
Ok, I will try that. And see if that makes any difference. Thank you, Pascale Sterrett Kenavo ar wech all llongw...@usgs.gov Sent by: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG 09/20/2013 08:51 AM Please respond to arslist@ARSLIST.ORG To arslist@ARSLIST.ORG cc Subject Re: A little bit early for Halloween or a little late for Friday the 13th ** I've seen weird things in Dev Studio when you have object relationships turned on and they get corruptedturning them off (but not restarting the server) seems to fix the Dev Studio weirdness (must turn it back on before restarting, or it needs to be rebuilt, but rebuilding it fixes the reference problems) I don't think you are dealing with a 're-cache' issue as Tauf suggested, because you have restarted the server, which is the ultimate recache... so I guess my recommendation would be to turn off object relationships, restart, turn it back on, restartsee if it's fixed after turning it off though. On Fri, Sep 20, 2013 at 9:43 AM, wrote: Hi all, This will sound like a Friday joke but it is not We just have a little bit of the spooky weird one here. And I wonder if anyone else had this kind of weird behavior. I just want to know if there is a step of cache clearing/cleaning we missed We are 100% custom apps. 7.6.4 SP5 mainly WUT MSSQL 2005 Win 2003 We are not using Best Practice Mode. So no Overlay #1 Weird occurrence: My colleague disabled an Active Link. But still it is triggering. In the logs, we see the AL being triggered. It is the same name but with a bunch of numbers following the name. If we do a search on Dev studio for that particular name with those number we can't find it. Just the one without the numbers. And that one is disabled in both Dev and Best Practice Mode. Regardless of restarting the server, closing the WUT and relogin, clearing the WUT cache, the AL regardless is triggering and showing up in the Logs. #2 occurrence I deleted an AL (different one). Still in Dev mode. The AL still triggered. Still showed in the logs. Regardless of restarting the server, closing the WUT and relogin, clearing the WUT cache, the AL regardless is triggering and showing up in the Logs. But if I looked for it in dev studio it was no longer there. #3 This morning, the deleted AL is no longer showing in the logs and all is working fine for now... Anyone experienced ghostly AL? Thank you, Pascale Sterrett Kenavo ar wech all If you are not the intended addressee, please inform us immediately that you have received this e-mail in error, and delete it. We thank you for your cooperation. ___ UNSUBSCRIBE or access ARSlist Archives at www.arslist.org "Where the Answers Are, and have been for 20 years" _ARSlist: "Where the Answers Are" and have been for 20 years_ If you are not the intended addressee, please inform us immediately that you have received this e-mail in error, and delete it. We thank you for your cooperation. ___ UNSUBSCRIBE or access ARSlist Archives at www.arslist.org "Where the Answers Are, and have been for 20 years"
Re: A little bit early for Halloween or a little late for Friday the 13th
Is Development Cache mode turned on? Remember that Active Links are cached to the clients as part of the Form definition. Rick On Sep 20, 2013 8:44 AM, wrote: > Hi all, > > This will sound like a Friday joke but it is not > > We just have a little bit of the spooky weird one here. And I wonder if > anyone else had this kind of weird behavior. > I just want to know if there is a step of cache clearing/cleaning we > missed > > We are 100% custom apps. > 7.6.4 SP5 mainly WUT > MSSQL 2005 > Win 2003 > > We are not using Best Practice Mode. So no Overlay > > #1 Weird occurrence: > > My colleague disabled an Active Link. But still it is triggering. In the > logs, we see the AL being triggered. It is the same name but with a bunch > of numbers following the name. If we do a search on Dev studio for that > particular name with those number we can't find it. Just the one without > the numbers. And that one is disabled in both Dev and Best Practice Mode. > > Regardless of restarting the server, closing the WUT and relogin, clearing > the WUT cache, the AL regardless is triggering and showing up in the Logs. > > > #2 occurrence > I deleted an AL (different one). Still in Dev mode. The AL still > triggered. Still showed in the logs. > Regardless of restarting the server, closing the WUT and relogin, clearing > the WUT cache, the AL regardless is triggering and showing up in the Logs. > > But if I looked for it in dev studio it was no longer there. > > #3 > This morning, the deleted AL is no longer showing in the logs and all is > working fine for now... > > > Anyone experienced ghostly AL? > > > Thank you, > > Pascale Sterrett > Kenavo ar wech all > > > If you are not the intended addressee, please inform us immediately that > you have received this e-mail in error, and delete it. We thank you for > your cooperation. > > ___ > UNSUBSCRIBE or access ARSlist Archives at www.arslist.org > "Where the Answers Are, and have been for 20 years" > ___ UNSUBSCRIBE or access ARSlist Archives at www.arslist.org "Where the Answers Are, and have been for 20 years"
