Re: BMC Developer Studio Annoyance
Shawn: Granted, I used to work at BMC and therefore had a lot of exposure with the Developer Studio, I've gained a few tricks here and there. On your Working List window there are three icons on the top right corner of the window, depends on where you put your window, and to the left of the local minimize and maximize buttons. The three buttons are: Single List, View By Type, and View By Form. Obviously, you want View by Type. The Working lists window should separate all workflow based on type. Even as a developer at BMC it took me a long time to figure out this feature. You would have thought they would have given us a tutorial instead of letting us figure things out on our own. Nonetheless, I do agree, DevStudio is definitely a better improvement over the old Admin tool, even though at times I do miss the Admin tool Hope this helps. From: Russ Grant [mailto:rd...@hotmail.com] Sent: Thursday, August 19, 2010 9:48 AM Subject: Re: BMC Developer Studio Annoyance ** Shawn, Hope you don't mind if I add a couple of my own. The Show Relationships feature is a handy feature but the list of related workflow displayed doesn't list execution order. The relationships list is also missing a column to indicated if the workflow is enabled/disabled. To be able to sort the relationships list by execution order would be very helpful. I've been using developer studio for a year or so now and believe it was a great improvement over the old administrator tool. Russ Date: Wed, 18 Aug 2010 16:58:21 +0100 From: i.d.trimn...@open.ac.uk Subject: Re: BMC Developer Studio Annoyance To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG ** On 18/08/2010 16:50, Pierson, Shawn wrote: ** I'm posting this here with the hopes that someone has a solution for me. Migrating to the Developer Studio has been a mixed bag for me as a developer. I am used to it now and like a lot of things about it, but there is one major annoyance for me that I haven't found a good way around yet. I like to use Working Lists. I think it's great and they give me an opportunity to set aside logical groups of things that work together without building it as an Application in Remedy. However, the results list within a Working List is almost useless to a developer. While I'm working on something and testing out different Active Links or Filters, I would like a way to see what is Enabled and what is Disabled. For example, if I were to go to All Objects and select Active Links, I would see these columns in the results list: Name, Enabled, Primary Form, Order, Execute On, Shared, Modified. If I open a Working List I only see these columns in the results list: Name, Object Type, Modified. How can I get the results list to look the same on Working Lists as it does for the All Objects results list? I haven't found any specific Working List options in the preferences where I can change this. Even if it's not something I can configure through the tool, does anyone know of any configuration file settings I could modify to get this? Thanks, Shawn Pierson Hi Shawn, I too like the idea of working lists, especially when I am building a new custom application or modifying an existing one. There is hope for you! The standard way that working lists are presented is to view items by Form. This gives you the columns you are referring to. If, however, you change to view by type (see little icons on the top right of the working group window) then all the columns are displayed. Hope this helps, Ian Ian Trimnell, AR System Lead Developer (amongst other jobs), Specialist Support Development, Training Support Services, Academic Administrative Computing Service Open University, MILTON KEYNES, UK Phone: 01908 653741 web: http://www.open.ac.uk/ The Open University is incorporated by Royal Charter (RC 000391), an exempt charity in England Wales and a charity registered in Scotland (SC 038302). _attend WWRUG10 www.wwrug.com ARSlist: Where the Answers Are_ _attend WWRUG10 www.wwrug.com ARSlist: Where the Answers Are_ - This transmission (including any attachments) may contain confidential information, privileged material (including material protected by the solicitor-client or other applicable privileges), or constitute non-public information. Any use of this information by anyone other than the intended recipient is prohibited. If you have received this transmission in error, please immediately reply to the sender and delete this information from your system. Use, dissemination, distribution, or reproduction of this transmission by unintended recipients is not authorized and may be unlawful. ___ UNSUBSCRIBE or access ARSlist Archives at www.arslist.org attend wwrug10 www.wwrug.com ARSlist: Where the Answers Are
Re: BMC Developer Studio Annoyance
Shawn, Hope you don't mind if I add a couple of my own. The Show Relationships feature is a handy feature but the list of related workflow displayed doesn't list execution order. The relationships list is also missing a column to indicated if the workflow is enabled/disabled. To be able to sort the relationships list by execution order would be very helpful. I've been using developer studio for a year or so now and believe it was a great improvement over the old administrator tool. Russ Date: Wed, 18 Aug 2010 16:58:21 +0100 From: i.d.trimn...@open.ac.uk Subject: Re: BMC Developer Studio Annoyance To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG ** Message body On 18/08/2010 16:50, Pierson, Shawn wrote: ** I’m posting this here with the hopes that someone has a solution for me. Migrating to the Developer Studio has been a mixed bag for me as a developer. I am used to it now and like a lot of things about it, but there is one major annoyance for me that I haven’t found a good way around yet. I like to use Working Lists. I think it’s great and they give me an opportunity to set aside logical groups of things that work together without building it as an Application in Remedy. However, the results list within a Working List is almost useless to a developer. While I’m working on something and testing out different Active Links or Filters, I would like a way to see what is Enabled and what is Disabled. For example, if I were to go to “All Objects” and select “Active Links”, I would see these columns in the results list: Name, Enabled, Primary Form, Order, Execute On, Shared, Modified. If I open a Working List I only see these columns in the results list: Name, Object Type, Modified. How can I get the results list to look the same on Working Lists as it does for the “All Objects” results list? I haven’t found any specific Working List options in the preferences where I can change this. Even if it’s not something I can configure through the tool, does anyone know of any configuration file settings I could modify to get this? Thanks, Shawn Pierson Hi Shawn, I too like the idea of working lists, especially when I am building a new custom application or modifying an existing one. There is hope for you! The standard way that working lists are presented is to view items by Form. This gives you the columns you are referring to. If, however, you change to view by type (see little icons on the top right of the working group window) then all the columns are displayed. Hope this helps, Ian Ian Trimnell, AR System Lead Developer (amongst other jobs), Specialist Support Development, Training Support Services, Academic Administrative Computing Service Open University, MILTON KEYNES, UK Phone: 01908 653741 web: http://www.open.ac.uk/ The Open University is incorporated by Royal Charter (RC 000391), an exempt charity in England Wales and a charity registered in Scotland (SC 038302). _attend WWRUG10 www.wwrug.com ARSlist: Where the Answers Are_ ___ UNSUBSCRIBE or access ARSlist Archives at www.arslist.org attend wwrug10 www.wwrug.com ARSlist: Where the Answers Are
Re: BMC Developer Studio Annoyance
Hi Russ, I'd like to second that request. I love the show relationships feature and use it all the time for quckly locating the code I need to modify or copy. It's great to be able to sort by the type of relationship but it would often be a lot better to sort by execution order. Its a pain to have to open each workflow item just to check its execution order. The disabled/enabled flag would also be very handy. I hope this feature is on the list for 7.6. Rod On 19 August 2010 21:47, Russ Grant rd...@hotmail.com wrote: ** Shawn, Hope you don't mind if I add a couple of my own. The Show Relationships feature is a handy feature but the list of related workflow displayed doesn't list execution order. The relationships list is also missing a column to indicated if the workflow is enabled/disabled. To be able to sort the relationships list by execution order would be very helpful. I've been using developer studio for a year or so now and believe it was a great improvement over the old administrator tool. Russ Date: Wed, 18 Aug 2010 16:58:21 +0100 From: i.d.trimn...@open.ac.uk Subject: Re: BMC Developer Studio Annoyance To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG ** On 18/08/2010 16:50, Pierson, Shawn wrote: ** I’m posting this here with the hopes that someone has a solution for me. Migrating to the Developer Studio has been a mixed bag for me as a developer. I am used to it now and like a lot of things about it, but there is one major annoyance for me that I haven’t found a good way around yet. I like to use Working Lists. I think it’s great and they give me an opportunity to set aside logical groups of things that work together without building it as an Application in Remedy. However, the results list within a Working List is almost useless to a developer. While I’m working on something and testing out different Active Links or Filters, I would like a way to see what is Enabled and what is Disabled. For example, if I were to go to “All Objects” and select “Active Links”, I would see these columns in the results list: Name, Enabled, Primary Form, Order, Execute On, Shared, Modified. If I open a Working List I only see these columns in the results list: Name, Object Type, Modified. How can I get the results list to look the same on Working Lists as it does for the “All Objects” results list? I haven’t found any specific Working List options in the preferences where I can change this. Even if it’s not something I can configure through the tool, does anyone know of any configuration file settings I could modify to get this? Thanks, Shawn Pierson Hi Shawn, I too like the idea of working lists, especially when I am building a new custom application or modifying an existing one. There is hope for you! The standard way that working lists are presented is to view items by Form. This gives you the columns you are referring to. If, however, you change to view by type (see little icons on the top right of the working group window) then all the columns are displayed. Hope this helps, Ian Ian Trimnell, AR System Lead Developer (amongst other jobs), Specialist Support Development, Training Support Services, Academic Administrative Computing Service Open University, MILTON KEYNES, UK Phone: 01908 653741 web: http://www.open.ac.uk/ The Open University is incorporated by Royal Charter (RC 000391), an exempt charity in England Wales and a charity registered in Scotland (SC 038302). _attend WWRUG10 www.wwrug.com ARSlist: Where the Answers Are_ _attend WWRUG10 www.wwrug.com ARSlist: Where the Answers Are_ ___ UNSUBSCRIBE or access ARSlist Archives at www.arslist.org attend wwrug10 www.wwrug.com ARSlist: Where the Answers Are
Re: BMC Developer Studio Annoyance
On 18/08/2010 16:50, Pierson, Shawn wrote: ** I'm posting this here with the hopes that someone has a solution for me. Migrating to the Developer Studio has been a mixed bag for me as a developer. I am used to it now and like a lot of things about it, but there is one major annoyance for me that I haven't found a good way around yet. I like to use Working Lists. I think it's great and they give me an opportunity to set aside logical groups of things that work together without building it as an Application in Remedy. However, the results list within a Working List is almost useless to a developer. While I'm working on something and testing out different Active Links or Filters, I would like a way to see what is Enabled and what is Disabled. For example, if I were to go to All Objects and select Active Links, I would see these columns in the results list: Name, Enabled, Primary Form, Order, Execute On, Shared, Modified. If I open a Working List I only see these columns in the results list: Name, Object Type, Modified. How can I get the results list to look the same on Working Lists as it does for the All Objects results list? I haven't found any specific Working List options in the preferences where I can change this. Even if it's not something I can configure through the tool, does anyone know of any configuration file settings I could modify to get this? Thanks, *Shawn Pierson* Hi Shawn, I too like the idea of working lists, especially when I am building a new custom application or modifying an existing one. There is hope for you! The standard way that working lists are presented is to view items by Form. This gives you the columns you are referring to. If, however, you change to view by type (see little icons on the top right of the working group window) then all the columns are displayed. Hope this helps, Ian Ian Trimnell, AR System Lead Developer (amongst other jobs), Specialist Support Development, Training Support Services, Academic Administrative Computing Service Open University, MILTON KEYNES, UK Phone: 01908 653741 web: http://www.open.ac.uk/ The Open University is incorporated by Royal Charter (RC 000391), an exempt charity in England Wales and a charity registered in Scotland (SC 038302). ___ UNSUBSCRIBE or access ARSlist Archives at www.arslist.org attend wwrug10 www.wwrug.com ARSlist: Where the Answers Are
