Re: Slightly OT: Mid-Tier and Apple iPhone...
Or maybe it's time for BMC to swallow Aeroprise, kinda like Shamu snatching up Nemo! From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) [arslist@ARSLIST.ORG] on behalf of Joe Martin D'Souza [jdso...@shyle.net] Sent: Thursday, March 10, 2011 4:39 PM To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG Subject: Re: Slightly OT: Mid-Tier and Apple iPhone... ** I wonder if that is the direction they might be headed to with version 8 :-) From: Tony W<mailto:tony.worthing...@me.com> Sent: Thursday, March 10, 2011 4:35 PM Newsgroups: public.remedy.arsystem.general To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG<mailto:arslist@ARSLIST.ORG> Subject: Re: Slightly OT: Mid-Tier and Apple iPhone... ** I don't want Flash on my iPhone, but it would be cool to get to Mid-Tier. BMC needs to move away from Flash, and towards HTML 5. Just my personal opinion. :-) Tony On Mar 9, 2011, at 2:55 PM, Joe Martin D'Souza wrote: ___ UNSUBSCRIBE or access ARSlist Archives at www.arslist.org attend wwrug11 www.wwrug.com ARSList: "Where the Answers Are"
Re: Slightly OT: Mid-Tier and Apple iPhone...
Aeroprise created an iPad application that they demonstrated at the WWRUG in Las Vegas. Yes they had to create a new frontend to SRM. -Original Message- From: Joe Martin D'Souza To: arslist Sent: Wed, Mar 9, 2011 3:56 pm Subject: Slightly OT: Mid-Tier and Apple iPhone... ** So most of us who use these phones know that Apple iPhones (maybe iPads too?) do not support Flash, and most of the new ITSM consoles use Flash. So its obvious that currently, iPhones (and perhaps iPads) are not compatible with these applications.. Do the wireless views use Flash? Has anyone gone down the route of finding a workaround? Running remote desktop on iPads may be a workaround if iPads do not support flash, but that would not quite be an option on iPhones.. As jail breaking iPhones & iPads is currently legal (at least in the US), is there a version of flash available for jail broken devices? If so, once a device is jail broken, is it possible to update that device without loosing anything, when a new version of an iOS is available? I’ve read a few blogs one of which said you may loose about 500 MB of disk space on a phone if you jail break it and then update to a new version of an iOS.. This post is for my information only and does not involve work that I am currently doing. My current customer does not have this as a requirement, but I figured I may be faced with this at some point somewhere.. Joe _attend WWRUG11 www.wwrug.com ARSlist: "Where the Answers Are"_ ___ UNSUBSCRIBE or access ARSlist Archives at www.arslist.org attend wwrug11 www.wwrug.com ARSList: "Where the Answers Are"
Re: Slightly OT: Mid-Tier and Apple iPhone...
Joe, Right on queue, check out this article on Adobe's new "Wallaby" initiative to convert Flash to HTML5 in an effort to break into the mobile phone/tablet market! http://arstechnica.com/software/news/2011/03/adobe-targets-ios-with-wall aby-flash-to-html5-converter.ars Tauf Chowdhury | Forest Laboratories, Inc. Analyst, Service Management Mobile:646.483.2779 From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) [mailto:arslist@ARSLIST.ORG] On Behalf Of Joe Martin D'Souza Sent: Wednesday, March 09, 2011 3:56 PM To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG Subject: Slightly OT: Mid-Tier and Apple iPhone... So most of us who use these phones know that Apple iPhones (maybe iPads too?) do not support Flash, and most of the new ITSM consoles use Flash. So its obvious that currently, iPhones (and perhaps iPads) are not compatible with these applications.. Do the wireless views use Flash? Has anyone gone down the route of finding a workaround? Running remote desktop on iPads may be a workaround if iPads do not support flash, but that would not quite be an option on iPhones.. As jail breaking iPhones & iPads is currently legal (at least in the US), is there a version of flash available for jail broken devices? If so, once a device is jail broken, is it possible to update that device without loosing anything, when a new version of an iOS is available? I've read a few blogs one of which said you may loose about 500 MB of disk space on a phone if you jail break it and then update to a new version of an iOS.. This post is for my information only and does not involve work that I am currently doing. My current customer does not have this as a requirement, but I figured I may be faced with this at some point somewhere.. Joe _attend WWRUG11 www.wwrug.com ARSlist: "Where the Answers Are"_ ** This e-mail and its attachments may contain Forest Laboratories, Inc. proprietary information that is privileged, confidential or subject to copyright belonging to Forest Laboratories, Inc. This e-mail is intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to which it is addressed. If you are not the intended recipient of this e-mail, or the employee or agent responsible for delivering this e-mail to the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any dissemination, distribution, copying or action taken in relation to the contents of and attachments to this e-mail is strictly prohibited and may be unlawful. If you have received this e-mail in error, please notify the sender immediately and permanently delete the original and any copy of this e-mail and any printout. ___ UNSUBSCRIBE or access ARSlist Archives at www.arslist.org attend wwrug11 www.wwrug.com ARSList: "Where the Answers Are"
Re: Slightly OT: Mid-Tier and Apple iPhone...
Supposedly there is a web browser app named Skyfire that can handle flash. -Original Message- From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) [mailto:arslist@ARSLIST.ORG] On Behalf Of Roger Justice Sent: Wednesday, March 09, 2011 3:59 PM To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG Subject: Re: Slightly OT: Mid-Tier and Apple iPhone... ** Aeroprise created an iPad application that they demonstrated at the WWRUG in Las Vegas. Yes they had to create a new frontend to SRM. -Original Message- From: Joe Martin D'Souza To: arslist Sent: Wed, Mar 9, 2011 3:56 pm Subject: Slightly OT: Mid-Tier and Apple iPhone... ** So most of us who use these phones know that Apple iPhones (maybe iPads too?) do not support Flash, and most of the new ITSM consoles use Flash. So its obvious that currently, iPhones (and perhaps iPads) are not compatible with these applications.. Do the wireless views use Flash? Has anyone gone down the route of finding a workaround? Running remote desktop on iPads may be a workaround if iPads do not support flash, but that would not quite be an option on iPhones.. As jail breaking iPhones & iPads is currently legal (at least in the US), is there a version of flash available for jail broken devices? If so, once a device is jail broken, is it possible to update that device without loosing anything, when a new version of an iOS is available? I’ve read a few blogs one of which said you may loose about 500 MB of disk space on a phone if you jail break it and then update to a new version of an iOS.. This post is for my information only and does not involve work that I am currently doing. My current customer does not have this as a requirement, but I figured I may be faced with this at some point somewhere.. Joe _attend WWRUG11 www.wwrug.com <http://www.wwrug.com/> ARSlist: "Where the Answers Are"_ _attend WWRUG11 www.wwrug.com ARSlist: "Where the Answers Are"_
Re: Slightly OT: Mid-Tier and Apple iPhone...
Hi Roger, Is it a browser based application or a iPad application? Did they say they may me making something similar for an iPhone? Joe From: Roger Justice Sent: Wednesday, March 09, 2011 3:58 PM Newsgroups: public.remedy.arsystem.general To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG Subject: Re: Slightly OT: Mid-Tier and Apple iPhone... ** Aeroprise created an iPad application that they demonstrated at the WWRUG in Las Vegas. Yes they had to create a new frontend to SRM. -Original Message- From: Joe Martin D'Souza To: arslist Sent: Wed, Mar 9, 2011 3:56 pm Subject: Slightly OT: Mid-Tier and Apple iPhone... ** So most of us who use these phones know that Apple iPhones (maybe iPads too?) do not support Flash, and most of the new ITSM consoles use Flash. So its obvious that currently, iPhones (and perhaps iPads) are not compatible with these applications.. Do the wireless views use Flash? Has anyone gone down the route of finding a workaround? Running remote desktop on iPads may be a workaround if iPads do not support flash, but that would not quite be an option on iPhones.. As jail breaking iPhones & iPads is currently legal (at least in the US), is there a version of flash available for jail broken devices? If so, once a device is jail broken, is it possible to update that device without loosing anything, when a new version of an iOS is available? I’ve read a few blogs one of which said you may loose about 500 MB of disk space on a phone if you jail break it and then update to a new version of an iOS.. This post is for my information only and does not involve work that I am currently doing. My current customer does not have this as a requirement, but I figured I may be faced with this at some point somewhere.. Joe ___ UNSUBSCRIBE or access ARSlist Archives at www.arslist.org attend wwrug11 www.wwrug.com ARSList: "Where the Answers Are"
Re: Slightly OT: Mid-Tier and Apple iPhone...
That’s an interesting bit of news. I had never heard of it.. Thank you for sharing. Joe From: Chowdhury, Tauf Sent: Wednesday, March 09, 2011 4:01 PM Newsgroups: public.remedy.arsystem.general To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG Subject: Re: Slightly OT: Mid-Tier and Apple iPhone... ** Joe, Right on queue, check out this article on Adobe’s new “Wallaby” initiative to convert Flash to HTML5 in an effort to break into the mobile phone/tablet market! http://arstechnica.com/software/news/2011/03/adobe-targets-ios-with-wallaby-flash-to-html5-converter.ars Tauf Chowdhury | Forest Laboratories, Inc. Analyst, Service Management Mobile:646.483.2779 From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) [mailto:arslist@ARSLIST.ORG] On Behalf Of Joe Martin D'Souza Sent: Wednesday, March 09, 2011 3:56 PM To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG Subject: Slightly OT: Mid-Tier and Apple iPhone... So most of us who use these phones know that Apple iPhones (maybe iPads too?) do not support Flash, and most of the new ITSM consoles use Flash. So its obvious that currently, iPhones (and perhaps iPads) are not compatible with these applications.. Do the wireless views use Flash? Has anyone gone down the route of finding a workaround? Running remote desktop on iPads may be a workaround if iPads do not support flash, but that would not quite be an option on iPhones.. As jail breaking iPhones & iPads is currently legal (at least in the US), is there a version of flash available for jail broken devices? If so, once a device is jail broken, is it possible to update that device without loosing anything, when a new version of an iOS is available? I’ve read a few blogs one of which said you may loose about 500 MB of disk space on a phone if you jail break it and then update to a new version of an iOS.. This post is for my information only and does not involve work that I am currently doing. My current customer does not have this as a requirement, but I figured I may be faced with this at some point somewhere.. Joe This e-mail and its attachments may contain Forest Laboratories, Inc. proprietary information that is privileged, confidential or subject to copyright belonging to Forest Laboratories, Inc. This e-mail is intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to which it is addressed. If you are not the intended recipient of this e-mail, or the employee or agent responsible for delivering this e-mail to the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any dissemination, distribution, copying or action taken in relation to the contents of and attachments to this e-mail is strictly prohibited and may be unlawful. If you have received this e-mail in error, please notify the sender immediately and permanently delete the original and any copy of this e-mail and any printout. _attend WWRUG11 www.wwrug.com ARSlist: "Where the Answers Are"_ _attend WWRUG11 www.wwrug.com ARSlist: "Where the Answers Are"_ ___ UNSUBSCRIBE or access ARSlist Archives at www.arslist.org attend wwrug11 www.wwrug.com ARSList: "Where the Answers Are"
Re: Slightly OT: Mid-Tier and Apple iPhone...
Skyfire is for Flash based video playback - not general flash applications. http://www.skyfire.com/ "Skyfire enables users to play millions of flash videos from the web that otherwise do not play or play poorly on mobiles. Unlock the content trapped behind those flash error messages when Skyfire transcodes videos into HTML5 on our servers and delivers a smart video stream to your mobile." -David J. Easter Manager of Product Management, Remedy Platform BMC Software, Inc. The opinions, statements, and/or suggested courses of action expressed in this E-mail do not necessarily reflect those of BMC Software, Inc. My voluntary participation in this forum is not intended to convey a role as a spokesperson, liaison or public relations representative for BMC Software, Inc. -Original Message- From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) [mailto:arslist@ARSLIST.ORG] On Behalf Of Puente, Christopher J Mr CTR USSOCOM HQ Sent: Wednesday, March 09, 2011 01:02 PM To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG Subject: Re: Slightly OT: Mid-Tier and Apple iPhone... Supposedly there is a web browser app named Skyfire that can handle flash. -Original Message- From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) [mailto:arslist@ARSLIST.ORG] On Behalf Of Roger Justice Sent: Wednesday, March 09, 2011 3:59 PM To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG Subject: Re: Slightly OT: Mid-Tier and Apple iPhone... ** Aeroprise created an iPad application that they demonstrated at the WWRUG in Las Vegas. Yes they had to create a new frontend to SRM. -Original Message- From: Joe Martin D'Souza To: arslist Sent: Wed, Mar 9, 2011 3:56 pm Subject: Slightly OT: Mid-Tier and Apple iPhone... ** So most of us who use these phones know that Apple iPhones (maybe iPads too?) do not support Flash, and most of the new ITSM consoles use Flash. So its obvious that currently, iPhones (and perhaps iPads) are not compatible with these applications.. Do the wireless views use Flash? Has anyone gone down the route of finding a workaround? Running remote desktop on iPads may be a workaround if iPads do not support flash, but that would not quite be an option on iPhones.. As jail breaking iPhones & iPads is currently legal (at least in the US), is there a version of flash available for jail broken devices? If so, once a device is jail broken, is it possible to update that device without loosing anything, when a new version of an iOS is available? I’ve read a few blogs one of which said you may loose about 500 MB of disk space on a phone if you jail break it and then update to a new version of an iOS.. This post is for my information only and does not involve work that I am currently doing. My current customer does not have this as a requirement, but I figured I may be faced with this at some point somewhere.. Joe _attend WWRUG11 www.wwrug.com <http://www.wwrug.com/> ARSlist: "Where the Answers Are"_ _attend WWRUG11 www.wwrug.com ARSlist: "Where the Answers Are"_
Re: Slightly OT: Mid-Tier and Apple iPhone...
Meaning it has an internal engine (not flash) which can handle 'all kinds' of flash objects??? Joe -Original Message- From: Puente, Christopher J Mr CTR USSOCOM HQ Sent: Wednesday, March 09, 2011 4:01 PM Newsgroups: public.remedy.arsystem.general To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG Subject: Re: Slightly OT: Mid-Tier and Apple iPhone... Supposedly there is a web browser app named Skyfire that can handle flash. -Original Message- From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) [mailto:arslist@ARSLIST.ORG] On Behalf Of Roger Justice Sent: Wednesday, March 09, 2011 3:59 PM To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG Subject: Re: Slightly OT: Mid-Tier and Apple iPhone... ** Aeroprise created an iPad application that they demonstrated at the WWRUG in Las Vegas. Yes they had to create a new frontend to SRM. -Original Message- From: Joe Martin D'Souza To: arslist Sent: Wed, Mar 9, 2011 3:56 pm Subject: Slightly OT: Mid-Tier and Apple iPhone... ** So most of us who use these phones know that Apple iPhones (maybe iPads too?) do not support Flash, and most of the new ITSM consoles use Flash. So its obvious that currently, iPhones (and perhaps iPads) are not compatible with these applications.. Do the wireless views use Flash? Has anyone gone down the route of finding a workaround? Running remote desktop on iPads may be a workaround if iPads do not support flash, but that would not quite be an option on iPhones.. As jail breaking iPhones & iPads is currently legal (at least in the US), is there a version of flash available for jail broken devices? If so, once a device is jail broken, is it possible to update that device without loosing anything, when a new version of an iOS is available? I’ve read a few blogs one of which said you may loose about 500 MB of disk space on a phone if you jail break it and then update to a new version of an iOS.. This post is for my information only and does not involve work that I am currently doing. My current customer does not have this as a requirement, but I figured I may be faced with this at some point somewhere.. Joe ___ UNSUBSCRIBE or access ARSlist Archives at www.arslist.org attend wwrug11 www.wwrug.com ARSList: "Where the Answers Are"
Re: Slightly OT: Mid-Tier and Apple iPhone...
Yes that’s what I thought when I read that which is why I asked if it supports 'all kinds' of flash objects.. The Remedy ITSM consoles do not contain flash videos.. They contain Flash action objects such as buttons, menus, etc. Those will not be handled by a flash video controller.. Joe -Original Message- From: Easter, David Sent: Wednesday, March 09, 2011 4:06 PM Newsgroups: public.remedy.arsystem.general To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG Subject: Re: Slightly OT: Mid-Tier and Apple iPhone... Skyfire is for Flash based video playback - not general flash applications. http://www.skyfire.com/ "Skyfire enables users to play millions of flash videos from the web that otherwise do not play or play poorly on mobiles. Unlock the content trapped behind those flash error messages when Skyfire transcodes videos into HTML5 on our servers and delivers a smart video stream to your mobile." -David J. Easter Manager of Product Management, Remedy Platform BMC Software, Inc. The opinions, statements, and/or suggested courses of action expressed in this E-mail do not necessarily reflect those of BMC Software, Inc. My voluntary participation in this forum is not intended to convey a role as a spokesperson, liaison or public relations representative for BMC Software, Inc. -Original Message- From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) [mailto:arslist@ARSLIST.ORG] On Behalf Of Puente, Christopher J Mr CTR USSOCOM HQ Sent: Wednesday, March 09, 2011 01:02 PM To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG Subject: Re: Slightly OT: Mid-Tier and Apple iPhone... Supposedly there is a web browser app named Skyfire that can handle flash. -Original Message- From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) [mailto:arslist@ARSLIST.ORG] On Behalf Of Roger Justice Sent: Wednesday, March 09, 2011 3:59 PM To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG Subject: Re: Slightly OT: Mid-Tier and Apple iPhone... ** Aeroprise created an iPad application that they demonstrated at the WWRUG in Las Vegas. Yes they had to create a new frontend to SRM. -Original Message- From: Joe Martin D'Souza To: arslist Sent: Wed, Mar 9, 2011 3:56 pm Subject: Slightly OT: Mid-Tier and Apple iPhone... ** So most of us who use these phones know that Apple iPhones (maybe iPads too?) do not support Flash, and most of the new ITSM consoles use Flash. So its obvious that currently, iPhones (and perhaps iPads) are not compatible with these applications.. Do the wireless views use Flash? Has anyone gone down the route of finding a workaround? Running remote desktop on iPads may be a workaround if iPads do not support flash, but that would not quite be an option on iPhones.. As jail breaking iPhones & iPads is currently legal (at least in the US), is there a version of flash available for jail broken devices? If so, once a device is jail broken, is it possible to update that device without loosing anything, when a new version of an iOS is available? I’ve read a few blogs one of which said you may loose about 500 MB of disk space on a phone if you jail break it and then update to a new version of an iOS.. This post is for my information only and does not involve work that I am currently doing. My current customer does not have this as a requirement, but I figured I may be faced with this at some point somewhere.. Joe ___ UNSUBSCRIBE or access ARSlist Archives at www.arslist.org attend wwrug11 www.wwrug.com ARSList: "Where the Answers Are"
Re: Slightly OT: Mid-Tier and Apple iPhone...
Another option if the customer has a Citrix environment is to use the Citrix Receiver. There is one for iPhone/iPad and Android. With Citrix you are then using a supported browser on a server that hopefully has Flash installed. You can use the WUT for that matter (while supplies last). Jason On Wed, Mar 9, 2011 at 1:12 PM, Joe Martin D'Souza wrote: > Yes that’s what I thought when I read that which is why I asked if it > supports 'all kinds' of flash objects.. The Remedy ITSM consoles do not > contain flash videos.. They contain Flash action objects such as buttons, > menus, etc. Those will not be handled by a flash video controller.. > > Joe > > -Original Message- From: Easter, David > Sent: Wednesday, March 09, 2011 4:06 PM Newsgroups: > public.remedy.arsystem.general > > To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG > Subject: Re: Slightly OT: Mid-Tier and Apple iPhone... > > Skyfire is for Flash based video playback - not general flash applications. > > http://www.skyfire.com/ > > "Skyfire enables users to play millions of flash videos from the web that > otherwise do not play or play poorly on mobiles. Unlock the content trapped > behind those flash error messages when Skyfire transcodes videos into HTML5 > on our servers and delivers a smart video stream to your mobile." > > -David J. Easter > Manager of Product Management, Remedy Platform > BMC Software, Inc. > > The opinions, statements, and/or suggested courses of action expressed in > this E-mail do not necessarily reflect those of BMC Software, Inc. My > voluntary participation in this forum is not intended to convey a role as a > spokesperson, liaison or public relations representative for BMC Software, > Inc. > > -Original Message- > From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) [mailto: > arslist@ARSLIST.ORG] On Behalf Of Puente, Christopher J Mr CTR USSOCOM HQ > Sent: Wednesday, March 09, 2011 01:02 PM > To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG > Subject: Re: Slightly OT: Mid-Tier and Apple iPhone... > > Supposedly there is a web browser app named Skyfire that can handle flash. > > -Original Message- > From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) [mailto: > arslist@ARSLIST.ORG] On Behalf Of Roger Justice > Sent: Wednesday, March 09, 2011 3:59 PM > To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG > Subject: Re: Slightly OT: Mid-Tier and Apple iPhone... > > ** Aeroprise created an iPad application that they demonstrated at the > WWRUG in Las Vegas. Yes they had to create a new frontend to SRM. > > > > > -Original Message- > From: Joe Martin D'Souza > To: arslist > Sent: Wed, Mar 9, 2011 3:56 pm > Subject: Slightly OT: Mid-Tier and Apple iPhone... > > > ** > > So most of us who use these phones know that Apple iPhones (maybe iPads > too?) do not support Flash, and most of the new ITSM consoles use Flash. So > its obvious that currently, iPhones (and perhaps iPads) are not compatible > with these applications.. Do the wireless views use Flash? > > Has anyone gone down the route of finding a workaround? Running remote > desktop on iPads may be a workaround if iPads do not support flash, but that > would not quite be an option on iPhones.. > > As jail breaking iPhones & iPads is currently legal (at least in the US), > is there a version of flash available for jail broken devices? If so, once a > device is jail broken, is it possible to update that device without loosing > anything, when a new version of an iOS is available? I’ve read a few blogs > one of which said you may loose about 500 MB of disk space on a phone if you > jail break it and then update to a new version of an iOS.. > > This post is for my information only and does not involve work that I am > currently doing. My current customer does not have this as a requirement, > but I figured I may be faced with this at some point somewhere.. > > Joe > > ___ > UNSUBSCRIBE or access ARSlist Archives at www.arslist.org > attend wwrug11 www.wwrug.com ARSList: "Where the Answers Are" > ___ UNSUBSCRIBE or access ARSlist Archives at www.arslist.org attend wwrug11 www.wwrug.com ARSList: "Where the Answers Are"
Re: Slightly OT: Mid-Tier and Apple iPhone...
Yup, that’s the Remote Desktop like option using CDE right? Joe From: Jason Miller Sent: Wednesday, March 09, 2011 4:36 PM Newsgroups: public.remedy.arsystem.general To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG Subject: Re: Slightly OT: Mid-Tier and Apple iPhone... ** Another option if the customer has a Citrix environment is to use the Citrix Receiver. There is one for iPhone/iPad and Android. With Citrix you are then using a supported browser on a server that hopefully has Flash installed. You can use the WUT for that matter (while supplies last). Jason On Wed, Mar 9, 2011 at 1:12 PM, Joe Martin D'Souza wrote: Yes that’s what I thought when I read that which is why I asked if it supports 'all kinds' of flash objects.. The Remedy ITSM consoles do not contain flash videos.. They contain Flash action objects such as buttons, menus, etc. Those will not be handled by a flash video controller.. Joe -Original Message- From: Easter, David Sent: Wednesday, March 09, 2011 4:06 PM Newsgroups: public.remedy.arsystem.general To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG Subject: Re: Slightly OT: Mid-Tier and Apple iPhone... Skyfire is for Flash based video playback - not general flash applications. http://www.skyfire.com/ "Skyfire enables users to play millions of flash videos from the web that otherwise do not play or play poorly on mobiles. Unlock the content trapped behind those flash error messages when Skyfire transcodes videos into HTML5 on our servers and delivers a smart video stream to your mobile." -David J. Easter Manager of Product Management, Remedy Platform BMC Software, Inc. The opinions, statements, and/or suggested courses of action expressed in this E-mail do not necessarily reflect those of BMC Software, Inc. My voluntary participation in this forum is not intended to convey a role as a spokesperson, liaison or public relations representative for BMC Software, Inc. -Original Message- From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) [mailto:arslist@ARSLIST.ORG] On Behalf Of Puente, Christopher J Mr CTR USSOCOM HQ Sent: Wednesday, March 09, 2011 01:02 PM To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG Subject: Re: Slightly OT: Mid-Tier and Apple iPhone... Supposedly there is a web browser app named Skyfire that can handle flash. -Original Message- From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) [mailto:arslist@ARSLIST.ORG] On Behalf Of Roger Justice Sent: Wednesday, March 09, 2011 3:59 PM To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG Subject: Re: Slightly OT: Mid-Tier and Apple iPhone... ** Aeroprise created an iPad application that they demonstrated at the WWRUG in Las Vegas. Yes they had to create a new frontend to SRM. -Original Message- From: Joe Martin D'Souza To: arslist Sent: Wed, Mar 9, 2011 3:56 pm Subject: Slightly OT: Mid-Tier and Apple iPhone... ** So most of us who use these phones know that Apple iPhones (maybe iPads too?) do not support Flash, and most of the new ITSM consoles use Flash. So its obvious that currently, iPhones (and perhaps iPads) are not compatible with these applications.. Do the wireless views use Flash? Has anyone gone down the route of finding a workaround? Running remote desktop on iPads may be a workaround if iPads do not support flash, but that would not quite be an option on iPhones.. As jail breaking iPhones & iPads is currently legal (at least in the US), is there a version of flash available for jail broken devices? If so, once a device is jail broken, is it possible to update that device without loosing anything, when a new version of an iOS is available? I’ve read a few blogs one of which said you may loose about 500 MB of disk space on a phone if you jail break it and then update to a new version of an iOS.. This post is for my information only and does not involve work that I am currently doing. My current customer does not have this as a requirement, but I figured I may be faced with this at some point somewhere.. Joe ___ UNSUBSCRIBE or access ARSlist Archives at www.arslist.org attend wwrug11 www.wwrug.com ARSList: "Where the Answers Are"
Re: Slightly OT: Mid-Tier and Apple iPhone...
Joe, Apple iOS does not support browser flash for either the iPhone, iPod or iPad. Apple reconsidered its position on flash apps targeted for iOS, with the caveat that there be no calls to external functions. “Jailbreaking”, while legal, subjects the iOS device to hackers. If “jailbroken” iOS devices are updated to a later version of IOS, it removes the “jailbreak”, I have never heard of losing 500MB, but then I would never “jailbreak” as it is far too risky to compensate for any perceived benefit, which is likely free apps. The reason for this is likely to prevent Apple’s users from suffering the malware attacks so prevalent on PCs and lately Androids. The Apple iTunes model is structured to protect the brand, as well as the thousands of developers it has attracted. Chas ** So most of us who use these phones know that Apple iPhones (maybe iPads too?) do not support Flash, and most of the new ITSM consoles use Flash. So its obvious that currently, iPhones (and perhaps iPads) are not compatible with these applications.. Do the wireless views use Flash? Has anyone gone down the route of finding a workaround? Running remote desktop on iPads may be a workaround if iPads do not support flash, but that would not quite be an option on iPhones.. As jail breaking iPhones & iPads is currently legal (at least in the US), is there a version of flash available for jail broken devices? If so, once a device is jail broken, is it possible to update that device without loosing anything, when a new version of an iOS is available? I’ve read a few blogs one of which said you may loose about 500 MB of disk space on a phone if you jail break it and then update to a new version of an iOS.. This post is for my information only and does not involve work that I am currently doing. My current customer does not have this as a requirement, but I figured I may be faced with this at some point somewhere.. Joe _attend WWRUG11 www.wwrug.com ARSlist: "Where the Answers Are"_ This email is confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual(s) to whom it is addressed. The information contained in this message may be privileged and confidential and protected from disclosure. If you are not the author's intended recipient, be advised that you have received this email in error and that any use, dissemination, forwarding, printing, or copying of this email is strictly prohibited. If you have received this email in error please delete all copies, both electronic and printed, and contact the author immediately.
Re: Slightly OT: Mid-Tier and Apple iPhone...
Yes, I believe it uses some form of terminal services (I am not a Citrix admin though). On Wed, Mar 9, 2011 at 1:39 PM, Joe Martin D'Souza wrote: > ** > > Yup, that’s the Remote Desktop like option using CDE right? > > Joe > > *From:* Jason Miller > *Sent:* Wednesday, March 09, 2011 4:36 PM > *Newsgroups:* public.remedy.arsystem.general > *To:* arslist@ARSLIST.ORG > *Subject:* Re: Slightly OT: Mid-Tier and Apple iPhone... > > ** Another option if the customer has a Citrix environment is to use the > Citrix Receiver. There is one for iPhone/iPad and Android. With Citrix you > are then using a supported browser on a server that hopefully has Flash > installed. You can use the WUT for that matter (while supplies last). > > > Jason > > On Wed, Mar 9, 2011 at 1:12 PM, Joe Martin D'Souza wrote: > >> Yes that’s what I thought when I read that which is why I asked if it >> supports 'all kinds' of flash objects.. The Remedy ITSM consoles do not >> contain flash videos.. They contain Flash action objects such as buttons, >> menus, etc. Those will not be handled by a flash video controller.. >> >> Joe >> >> -Original Message- From: Easter, David >> Sent: Wednesday, March 09, 2011 4:06 PM Newsgroups: >> public.remedy.arsystem.general >> >> To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG >> Subject: Re: Slightly OT: Mid-Tier and Apple iPhone... >> >> Skyfire is for Flash based video playback - not general flash >> applications. >> >> http://www.skyfire.com/ >> >> "Skyfire enables users to play millions of flash videos from the web that >> otherwise do not play or play poorly on mobiles. Unlock the content trapped >> behind those flash error messages when Skyfire transcodes videos into HTML5 >> on our servers and delivers a smart video stream to your mobile." >> >> -David J. Easter >> Manager of Product Management, Remedy Platform >> BMC Software, Inc. >> >> The opinions, statements, and/or suggested courses of action expressed in >> this E-mail do not necessarily reflect those of BMC Software, Inc. My >> voluntary participation in this forum is not intended to convey a role as a >> spokesperson, liaison or public relations representative for BMC Software, >> Inc. >> >> -Original Message- >> From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) [mailto: >> arslist@ARSLIST.ORG] On Behalf Of Puente, Christopher J Mr CTR USSOCOM HQ >> Sent: Wednesday, March 09, 2011 01:02 PM >> To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG >> Subject: Re: Slightly OT: Mid-Tier and Apple iPhone... >> >> Supposedly there is a web browser app named Skyfire that can handle flash. >> >> -Original Message- >> From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) [mailto: >> arslist@ARSLIST.ORG] On Behalf Of Roger Justice >> Sent: Wednesday, March 09, 2011 3:59 PM >> To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG >> Subject: Re: Slightly OT: Mid-Tier and Apple iPhone... >> >> ** Aeroprise created an iPad application that they demonstrated at the >> WWRUG in Las Vegas. Yes they had to create a new frontend to SRM. >> >> >> >> >> -Original Message- >> From: Joe Martin D'Souza >> To: arslist >> Sent: Wed, Mar 9, 2011 3:56 pm >> Subject: Slightly OT: Mid-Tier and Apple iPhone... >> >> >> ** >> >> So most of us who use these phones know that Apple iPhones (maybe iPads >> too?) do not support Flash, and most of the new ITSM consoles use Flash. So >> its obvious that currently, iPhones (and perhaps iPads) are not compatible >> with these applications.. Do the wireless views use Flash? >> >> Has anyone gone down the route of finding a workaround? Running remote >> desktop on iPads may be a workaround if iPads do not support flash, but that >> would not quite be an option on iPhones.. >> >> As jail breaking iPhones & iPads is currently legal (at least in the US), >> is there a version of flash available for jail broken devices? If so, once a >> device is jail broken, is it possible to update that device without loosing >> anything, when a new version of an iOS is available? I’ve read a few blogs >> one of which said you may loose about 500 MB of disk space on a phone if you >> jail break it and then update to a new version of an iOS.. >> >> This post is for my information only and does not involve work that I am >> currently doing. My current customer does not have this as a requirement, >> but I figured I may be faced with this at some point somewhere.. >> >> Joe >> > _attend WWRUG11 www.wwrug.com ARSlist: "Where the Answers Are"_ ___ UNSUBSCRIBE or access ARSlist Archives at www.arslist.org attend wwrug11 www.wwrug.com ARSList: "Where the Answers Are"
Re: Slightly OT: Mid-Tier and Apple iPhone...
Thanks for that information. I am just getting into the whole iOS thing more as a hobby, so am still learning about the OS and its features.. This is useful information. I wasn’t aware of the security side of things when I jail broke my iPhone a couple of weeks ago. I did it cause I thought it was fun and wanted to see what I could do with my phone after jail breaking it. I thought it may open options that were otherwise not available (this flash thing being one of them). And you are right about there not being too many advantages to it apart from some free apps or cheaper apps.. The biggest advantage being you can buy some apps which have a one time fee which is almost nothing at all for eg. internet tethering. In response to Jason Miller, yes I think the Citrix options for iPhones and iPads use terminal services.. So it does not require flash to be installed or running on the device.. Joe From: Roberts, Chas Sent: Wednesday, March 09, 2011 5:09 PM Newsgroups: public.remedy.arsystem.general To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG Subject: Re: Slightly OT: Mid-Tier and Apple iPhone... Joe, Apple iOS does not support browser flash for either the iPhone, iPod or iPad. Apple reconsidered its position on flash apps targeted for iOS, with the caveat that there be no calls to external functions. “Jailbreaking”, while legal, subjects the iOS device to hackers. If “jailbroken” iOS devices are updated to a later version of IOS, it removes the “jailbreak”, I have never heard of losing 500MB, but then I would never “jailbreak” as it is far too risky to compensate for any perceived benefit, which is likely free apps. The reason for this is likely to prevent Apple’s users from suffering the malware attacks so prevalent on PCs and lately Androids. The Apple iTunes model is structured to protect the brand, as well as the thousands of developers it has attracted. Chas ** So most of us who use these phones know that Apple iPhones (maybe iPads too?) do not support Flash, and most of the new ITSM consoles use Flash. So its obvious that currently, iPhones (and perhaps iPads) are not compatible with these applications.. Do the wireless views use Flash? Has anyone gone down the route of finding a workaround? Running remote desktop on iPads may be a workaround if iPads do not support flash, but that would not quite be an option on iPhones.. As jail breaking iPhones & iPads is currently legal (at least in the US), is there a version of flash available for jail broken devices? If so, once a device is jail broken, is it possible to update that device without loosing anything, when a new version of an iOS is available? I’ve read a few blogs one of which said you may loose about 500 MB of disk space on a phone if you jail break it and then update to a new version of an iOS.. This post is for my information only and does not involve work that I am currently doing. My current customer does not have this as a requirement, but I figured I may be faced with this at some point somewhere.. Joe ___ UNSUBSCRIBE or access ARSlist Archives at www.arslist.org attend wwrug11 www.wwrug.com ARSList: "Where the Answers Are"
Re: Slightly OT: Mid-Tier and Apple iPhone...
I just picked up a Motorola Xoom, an Android tablet device, which will have Adobe Flash 10.3 support within the next few weeks (if one believes the hype, in any case). I plan on testing it out against our Remedy applications just as soon as that happens (over the air update). I'll let you all know if it does work... just some first impressions, though... the browsing experience on the Xoom is night-and-day better than Safari on the iPad. Much faster, IMHO, and is more comfortable to use. Enjoy! Matt From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) [mailto:arslist@ARSLIST.ORG] On Behalf Of Roberts, Chas Sent: Wednesday, March 09, 2011 4:10 PM To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG Subject: Re: Slightly OT: Mid-Tier and Apple iPhone... Joe, Apple iOS does not support browser flash for either the iPhone, iPod or iPad. Apple reconsidered its position on flash apps targeted for iOS, with the caveat that there be no calls to external functions. “Jailbreaking”, while legal, subjects the iOS device to hackers. If “jailbroken” iOS devices are updated to a later version of IOS, it removes the “jailbreak”, I have never heard of losing 500MB, but then I would never “jailbreak” as it is far too risky to compensate for any perceived benefit, which is likely free apps. The reason for this is likely to prevent Apple’s users from suffering the malware attacks so prevalent on PCs and lately Androids. The Apple iTunes model is structured to protect the brand, as well as the thousands of developers it has attracted. Chas ** So most of us who use these phones know that Apple iPhones (maybe iPads too?) do not support Flash, and most of the new ITSM consoles use Flash. So its obvious that currently, iPhones (and perhaps iPads) are not compatible with these applications.. Do the wireless views use Flash? Has anyone gone down the route of finding a workaround? Running remote desktop on iPads may be a workaround if iPads do not support flash, but that would not quite be an option on iPhones.. As jail breaking iPhones & iPads is currently legal (at least in the US), is there a version of flash available for jail broken devices? If so, once a device is jail broken, is it possible to update that device without loosing anything, when a new version of an iOS is available? I’ve read a few blogs one of which said you may loose about 500 MB of disk space on a phone if you jail break it and then update to a new version of an iOS.. This post is for my information only and does not involve work that I am currently doing. My current customer does not have this as a requirement, but I figured I may be faced with this at some point somewhere.. Joe _attend WWRUG11 www.wwrug.com ARSlist: "Where the Answers Are"_ _ This email is confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual(s) to whom it is addressed. The information contained in this message may be privileged and confidential and protected from disclosure. If you are not the author's intended recipient, be advised that you have received this email in error and that any use, dissemination, forwarding, printing, or copying of this email is strictly prohibited. If you have received this email in error please delete all copies, both electronic and printed, and contact the author immediately. ___ UNSUBSCRIBE or access ARSlist Archives at www.arslist.org attend wwrug11 www.wwrug.com ARSList: "Where the Answers Are"
Re: Slightly OT: Mid-Tier and Apple iPhone...
Have you tried Safari with the new update of iOS 4.3? It was released 2 days ago and from the release notes is supposed to be a lot faster in performance than the one bundled in iOS 4.2 and below.. I just updated mine today and it does feel like the pages load quicker than they used to.. Joe From: Matt Reinfeldt Sent: Wednesday, March 09, 2011 6:05 PM Newsgroups: public.remedy.arsystem.general To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG Subject: Re: Slightly OT: Mid-Tier and Apple iPhone... ** I just picked up a Motorola Xoom, an Android tablet device, which will have Adobe Flash 10.3 support within the next few weeks (if one believes the hype, in any case). I plan on testing it out against our Remedy applications just as soon as that happens (over the air update). I'll let you all know if it does work... just some first impressions, though... the browsing experience on the Xoom is night-and-day better than Safari on the iPad. Much faster, IMHO, and is more comfortable to use. Enjoy! Matt From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) [mailto:arslist@ARSLIST.ORG] On Behalf Of Roberts, Chas Sent: Wednesday, March 09, 2011 4:10 PM To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG Subject: Re: Slightly OT: Mid-Tier and Apple iPhone... Joe, Apple iOS does not support browser flash for either the iPhone, iPod or iPad. Apple reconsidered its position on flash apps targeted for iOS, with the caveat that there be no calls to external functions. “Jailbreaking”, while legal, subjects the iOS device to hackers. If “jailbroken” iOS devices are updated to a later version of IOS, it removes the “jailbreak”, I have never heard of losing 500MB, but then I would never “jailbreak” as it is far too risky to compensate for any perceived benefit, which is likely free apps. The reason for this is likely to prevent Apple’s users from suffering the malware attacks so prevalent on PCs and lately Androids. The Apple iTunes model is structured to protect the brand, as well as the thousands of developers it has attracted. Chas ** So most of us who use these phones know that Apple iPhones (maybe iPads too?) do not support Flash, and most of the new ITSM consoles use Flash. So its obvious that currently, iPhones (and perhaps iPads) are not compatible with these applications.. Do the wireless views use Flash? Has anyone gone down the route of finding a workaround? Running remote desktop on iPads may be a workaround if iPads do not support flash, but that would not quite be an option on iPhones.. As jail breaking iPhones & iPads is currently legal (at least in the US), is there a version of flash available for jail broken devices? If so, once a device is jail broken, is it possible to update that device without loosing anything, when a new version of an iOS is available? I’ve read a few blogs one of which said you may loose about 500 MB of disk space on a phone if you jail break it and then update to a new version of an iOS.. This post is for my information only and does not involve work that I am currently doing. My current customer does not have this as a requirement, but I figured I may be faced with this at some point somewhere.. Joe ___ UNSUBSCRIBE or access ARSlist Archives at www.arslist.org attend wwrug11 www.wwrug.com ARSList: "Where the Answers Are"
Re: Slightly OT: Mid-Tier and Apple iPhone...
Matt, Does the Xoom ship with any Flash? I have access the Atrium Console from my Droid X with Flash 10.1. The problem I found was I had no way of right clicking to expand/collapse relationships. I don't think the Flash will be the problem with the Xoom as much as some of the native Mid-Tier functionality. At least with MT 7.5 p4 drop down menus are king of hit and miss as well as double tap to drill down into a table zooms in and out. Panel and Application List fields also don't appear to play well with the Android browser. For giggles I just tried Firefox (recently re-branded from Fennec) and the drop down menus worked better but Panels and Application Lists still had an issue. We'll be deploying a 7.6.04 MT soon. I'll try again with that setup. Jason On Wed, Mar 9, 2011 at 3:05 PM, Matt Reinfeldt wrote: > ** > > I just picked up a Motorola Xoom, an Android tablet device, which will have > Adobe Flash 10.3 support within the next few weeks (if one believes the > hype, in any case). I plan on testing it out against our Remedy > applications just as soon as that happens (over the air update). > > > > I'll let you all know if it does work... just some first impressions, > though... the browsing experience on the Xoom is night-and-day better than > Safari on the iPad. Much faster, IMHO, and is more comfortable to use. > > > > Enjoy! > > > > Matt > > > > *From:* Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) [mailto: > arslist@ARSLIST.ORG] *On Behalf Of *Roberts, Chas > *Sent:* Wednesday, March 09, 2011 4:10 PM > > *To:* arslist@ARSLIST.ORG > *Subject:* Re: Slightly OT: Mid-Tier and Apple iPhone... > > > > Joe, > > > > Apple iOS does not support browser flash for either the iPhone, iPod or > iPad. > > > > Apple reconsidered its position on flash apps targeted for iOS, with the > caveat that there be no calls to external functions. > > > > “Jailbreaking”, while legal, subjects the iOS device to hackers. If > “jailbroken” iOS devices are updated to a later version of IOS, it removes > the “jailbreak”, I have never heard of losing 500MB, but then I would never > “jailbreak” as it is far too risky to compensate for any perceived benefit, > which is likely free apps. > > > > The reason for this is likely to prevent Apple’s users from suffering the > malware attacks so prevalent on PCs and lately Androids. The Apple iTunes > model is structured to protect the brand, as well as the thousands of > developers it has attracted. > > > > > > > > Chas > > > > > > > > > > > > ** > > > > So most of us who use these phones know that Apple iPhones (maybe iPads > too?) do not support Flash, and most of the new ITSM consoles use Flash. So > its obvious that currently, iPhones (and perhaps iPads) are not compatible > with these applications.. Do the wireless views use Flash? > > > > Has anyone gone down the route of finding a workaround? Running remote > desktop on iPads may be a workaround if iPads do not support flash, but that > would not quite be an option on iPhones.. > > > > As jail breaking iPhones & iPads is currently legal (at least in the US), > is there a version of flash available for jail broken devices? If so, once a > device is jail broken, is it possible to update that device without loosing > anything, when a new version of an iOS is available? I’ve read a few blogs > one of which said you may loose about 500 MB of disk space on a phone if you > jail break it and then update to a new version of an iOS.. > > > > This post is for my information only and does not involve work that I am > currently doing. My current customer does not have this as a requirement, > but I figured I may be faced with this at some point somewhere.. > > > > Joe > > _attend WWRUG11 www.wwrug.com ARSlist: "Where the Answers Are"_ > > > -- > > This email is confidential and intended solely for the use of the > individual(s) to whom it is addressed. The information contained in this > message may be privileged and confidential and protected from disclosure. > > If you are not the author's intended recipient, be advised that you have > received this email in error and that any use, dissemination, forwarding, > printing, or copying of this email is strictly prohibited. If you have > received this email in error please delete all copies, both electronic and > printed, and contact the author immediately. > _attend WWRUG11 www.wwrug.com ARSlist: "Where the Answers Are"_ > ___ UNSUBSCRIBE or access ARSlist Archives at www.arslist.org attend wwrug11 www.wwrug.com ARSList: "Where the Answers Are"
Re: Slightly OT: Mid-Tier and Apple iPhone...
I don't want Flash on my iPhone, but it would be cool to get to Mid-Tier. BMC needs to move away from Flash, and towards HTML 5. Just my personal opinion. :-) Tony On Mar 9, 2011, at 2:55 PM, Joe Martin D'Souza wrote: > ** > > So most of us who use these phones know that Apple iPhones (maybe iPads too?) > do not support Flash, and most of the new ITSM consoles use Flash. So its > obvious that currently, iPhones (and perhaps iPads) are not compatible with > these applications.. Do the wireless views use Flash? > > Has anyone gone down the route of finding a workaround? Running remote > desktop on iPads may be a workaround if iPads do not support flash, but that > would not quite be an option on iPhones.. > > As jail breaking iPhones & iPads is currently legal (at least in the US), is > there a version of flash available for jail broken devices? If so, once a > device is jail broken, is it possible to update that device without loosing > anything, when a new version of an iOS is available? I’ve read a few blogs > one of which said you may loose about 500 MB of disk space on a phone if you > jail break it and then update to a new version of an iOS.. > > This post is for my information only and does not involve work that I am > currently doing. My current customer does not have this as a requirement, but > I figured I may be faced with this at some point somewhere.. > > Joe > _attend WWRUG11 www.wwrug.com ARSlist: "Where the Answers Are"_ ___ UNSUBSCRIBE or access ARSlist Archives at www.arslist.org attend wwrug11 www.wwrug.com ARSList: "Where the Answers Are"
Re: Slightly OT: Mid-Tier and Apple iPhone...
I wonder if that is the direction they might be headed to with version 8 :-) From: Tony W Sent: Thursday, March 10, 2011 4:35 PM Newsgroups: public.remedy.arsystem.general To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG Subject: Re: Slightly OT: Mid-Tier and Apple iPhone... ** I don't want Flash on my iPhone, but it would be cool to get to Mid-Tier. BMC needs to move away from Flash, and towards HTML 5. Just my personal opinion. :-) Tony On Mar 9, 2011, at 2:55 PM, Joe Martin D'Souza wrote: ** So most of us who use these phones know that Apple iPhones (maybe iPads too?) do not support Flash, and most of the new ITSM consoles use Flash. So its obvious that currently, iPhones (and perhaps iPads) are not compatible with these applications.. Do the wireless views use Flash? Has anyone gone down the route of finding a workaround? Running remote desktop on iPads may be a workaround if iPads do not support flash, but that would not quite be an option on iPhones.. As jail breaking iPhones & iPads is currently legal (at least in the US), is there a version of flash available for jail broken devices? If so, once a device is jail broken, is it possible to update that device without loosing anything, when a new version of an iOS is available? I’ve read a few blogs one of which said you may loose about 500 MB of disk space on a phone if you jail break it and then update to a new version of an iOS.. This post is for my information only and does not involve work that I am currently doing. My current customer does not have this as a requirement, but I figured I may be faced with this at some point somewhere.. Joe ___ UNSUBSCRIBE or access ARSlist Archives at www.arslist.org attend wwrug11 www.wwrug.com ARSList: "Where the Answers Are"
