Re: Unable to retrieve data from a form

2008-06-19 Thread Ankur Gulati
I took the db and API log for the search action on the form. 
 
I opened the form in the search mode, put in the request id
=001 to search for.
 
In the logs,  It starts with ARGetEntry and fetches this record but the
last SQL that runs is bit intruding...It selects all request_ID and
assigned to 
 
SELECT T102.C1,C4 FROM T102 ORDER BY 1 ASC
 
Now this query took 30 mins. there are just 69000 records in this form.
 
Why is this SQL running? or is this normal ? Attached is the excerpt
from the log.  
 
This Darn issue has extended my stay in Sweden...its funny sometimes
when the travel plan gets affected with some technical issues
 
Regards
Ankur
 




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Subject: Re: Unable to retrieve data from a form


** 
From the User tool turn on logging (at least API and Database)
and see what SQL statement is the one taking so long



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Thank you for the script Fred,
 
All the concerned B Table indexes are coming up as Valid. The
selection query for the table does use indexed fields too.
 
Any other things I can check up
 
_
Ankur




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Subject: Re: Unable to retrieve data from a form



Fred,
 
There are three tables on the form(Email handler Form) 
 
First table is attachment table, this brings the
attachment to this form from another form. 
Second table is the attachment pool.
Third table fetches the data from AR System Email
Attachment Join.
 
I have also turned down the table refreshes on display.
No Improvement. 
 
I'd be glad if you can fwd me the script to check
indexes on tables.
 
Regards
Ankur




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Frederick W
Sent: 18 June 2008 07:31 PM
To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
Subject: Re: Unable to retrieve data from a form



What table do you have on the form?  It still
sounds like an index problem (Either you are missing an index on the B
table or your selection query for your table on the form is not using an
index).
 
Since you are on Oracle I have a script you can
use to verify if all tables have their primary (Remedy defined), and
User defined indexes.
 
Fred



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Subject: Re: Unable to retrieve data from a form



Hi Guys,
 
Another thing which I forgot to mention, the
status bar at the bottom does show that it found the record and it gets
stuck saying Refreshing table up to Administrator`s limit
 
 
Ankur




From: Ankur Gulati 
Sent: 18 June 2008 03:30 PM
To: 'arslist@ARSLIST.ORG'
Subject: Unable to retrieve data from a
form


Hi Listers,
 
We have a form which has 5 BLOB fields.
There are around 67000 records and it takes around 3-4 hrs to search for
a single record. I search on the request_id. We do have couple of other

Re: Unable to retrieve data from a form

2008-06-19 Thread Carey Matthew Black
Ankur,

Actually the API call structure in the log shows that the select that
you are speaking of is from a GLEWF ARGetListEntryWithFields  API
call. That most likely means that a table field is being refreshed and
the qualification on the table field is unqualified. I would look for
any Table field with no qualification, or any table field that is
totally dependent on one or more EXTERNAL() operators that may be
referencing a field that is still NULL at the time the table field is
being refreshed.

HTH

-- 
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Remedy Skilled Professional (RSP)
ARS = Action Request System(Remedy)

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Solution = People + Process + Tools
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On Thu, Jun 19, 2008 at 6:44 AM, Ankur Gulati [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 **
 I took the db and API log for the search action on the form.

 I opened the form in the search mode, put in the request id =001
 to search for.

 In the logs,  It starts with ARGetEntry and fetches this record but the last
 SQL that runs is bit intruding...It selects all request_ID and assigned to

 SELECT T102.C1,C4 FROM T102 ORDER BY 1 ASC

 Now this query took 30 mins. there are just 69000 records in this form.

 Why is this SQL running? or is this normal ? Attached is the excerpt from
 the log.

 This Darn issue has extended my stay in Sweden...its funny
 sometimes when the travel plan gets affected with some technical issues

 Regards
 Ankur

 
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 Sent: 18 June 2008 10:59 PM
 To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
 Subject: Re: Unable to retrieve data from a form

 **
 From the User tool turn on logging (at least API and Database) and see what
 SQL statement is the one taking so long
 
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 Sent: Wednesday, June 18, 2008 5:15 AM
 To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
 Subject: Re: Unable to retrieve data from a form

 Hi Guys,

 Another thing which I forgot to mention, the status bar at the bottom does
 show that it found the record and it gets stuck saying Refreshing table up
 to Administrator`s limit


 Ankur

 
 From: Ankur Gulati
 Sent: 18 June 2008 03:30 PM
 To: 'arslist@ARSLIST.ORG'
 Subject: Unable to retrieve data from a form

 Hi Listers,

 We have a form which has 5 BLOB fields. There are around 67000 records and
 it takes around 3-4 hrs to search for a single record. I search on the
 request_id. We do have couple of other indexes in place apart on Request ID
 field.

 The actual workflow is that an AL does a push field and creates a new record
 in a form and then second Set field is fired in same AL which opens this new
 record in modify window. So this is where it fails to open this new record
 and even if I open the form and search for any record it takes forever to
 show up and usually it freezes.

 I have rebuild the indexes but no improvement. On another form without no
 BLOB data and 100+ fields, it takes less than a sec to search a record.

 Logs doesn't show anything. AL, SQL and filter log just shows the perfect
 creation of new record and then on Display it does show the opening of the
 form in SET Operation.

 What all should I check?

 ARS. 7.0 Patch 5
 DatabaseOracle 9i

 Regards
 Ankur

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Re: Unable to retrieve data from a form

2008-06-18 Thread Ankur Gulati
Hi Guys,
 
Another thing which I forgot to mention, the status bar at the bottom
does show that it found the record and it gets stuck saying Refreshing
table up to Administrator`s limit
 
 
Ankur




From: Ankur Gulati 
Sent: 18 June 2008 03:30 PM
To: 'arslist@ARSLIST.ORG'
Subject: Unable to retrieve data from a form


Hi Listers,
 
We have a form which has 5 BLOB fields. There are around 67000
records and it takes around 3-4 hrs to search for a single record. I
search on the request_id. We do have couple of other indexes in place
apart on Request ID field.
 

The actual workflow is that an AL does a push field and creates
a new record in a form and then second Set field is fired in same AL
which opens this new record in modify window. So this is where it fails
to open this new record and even if I open the form and search for any
record it takes forever to show up and usually it freezes.
 
I have rebuild the indexes but no improvement. On another form
without no BLOB data and 100+ fields, it takes less than a sec to search
a record.
 
Logs doesn't show anything. AL, SQL and filter log just shows
the perfect creation of new record and then on Display it does show the
opening of the form in SET Operation. 
 
What all should I check? 
 
ARS. 7.0 Patch 5
DatabaseOracle 9i
 
 
Regards
Ankur
 
 
 
 
 
 


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Re: Unable to retrieve data from a form

2008-06-18 Thread Brian Gillock
Ankur,

Try turning off the table refreshes on open and see if it
still takes a long time.  If it's the tables, then you need to look at your
table qualifications and try to slim the results down or chunk them.  And
what I would do if it is the blobs that's causing your problem is move them
off to another table with an ID field to reference them.  But, I'm
relatively new to this game, so I'm sure there are other, better ways.

 

Brian

 

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** 

Hi Guys,

 

Another thing which I forgot to mention, the status bar at the bottom does
show that it found the record and it gets stuck saying Refreshing table up
to Administrator`s limit

 

 

Ankur

 

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From: Ankur Gulati 
Sent: 18 June 2008 03:30 PM
To: 'arslist@ARSLIST.ORG'
Subject: Unable to retrieve data from a form

Hi Listers,

 

We have a form which has 5 BLOB fields. There are around 67000 records and
it takes around 3-4 hrs to search for a single record. I search on the
request_id. We do have couple of other indexes in place apart on Request ID
field.

 

The actual workflow is that an AL does a push field and creates a new record
in a form and then second Set field is fired in same AL which opens this new
record in modify window. So this is where it fails to open this new record
and even if I open the form and search for any record it takes forever to
show up and usually it freezes.

 

I have rebuild the indexes but no improvement. On another form without no
BLOB data and 100+ fields, it takes less than a sec to search a record.

 

Logs doesn't show anything. AL, SQL and filter log just shows the perfect
creation of new record and then on Display it does show the opening of the
form in SET Operation. 

 

What all should I check? 

 

ARS. 7.0 Patch 5

DatabaseOracle 9i

 

 

Regards

Ankur

 

 

 

 

 

 

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Re: Unable to retrieve data from a form

2008-06-18 Thread Frank Caruso
You need to look at what the table field(s) are doing on that form. My guess
is that they are pulling every record from the underlying table which is why
it takes so long and often hangs.

On Wed, Jun 18, 2008 at 9:09 AM, Brian Gillock [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:

 **

 Ankur,

 Try turning off the table refreshes on open and see if it
 still takes a long time.  If it's the tables, then you need to look at your
 table qualifications and try to slim the results down or chunk them.  And
 what I would do if it is the blobs that's causing your problem is move them
 off to another table with an ID field to reference them.  But, I'm
 relatively new to this game, so I'm sure there are other, better ways.



 Brian



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 **

 Hi Guys,



 Another thing which I forgot to mention, the status bar at the bottom does
 show that it found the record and it gets stuck saying *Refreshing table
 up to Administrator`s limit*





 Ankur


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 *From:* Ankur Gulati
 *Sent:* 18 June 2008 03:30 PM
 *To:* 'arslist@ARSLIST.ORG'
 *Subject:* Unable to retrieve data from a form

 Hi Listers,



 We have a form which has 5 BLOB fields. There are around 67000 records and
 it takes around 3-4 hrs to search for a single record. I search on the
 request_id. We do have couple of other indexes in place apart on Request ID
 field.



 The actual workflow is that an AL does a push field and creates a new
 record in a form and then second Set field is fired in same AL which opens
 this new record in modify window. So this is where it fails to open this new
 record and even if I open the form and search for any record it takes
 forever to show up and usually it freezes.



 I have rebuild the indexes but no improvement. On another form without no
 BLOB data and 100+ fields, it takes less than a sec to search a record.



 Logs doesn't show anything. AL, SQL and filter log just shows the perfect
 creation of new record and then on Display it does show the opening of the
 form in SET Operation.



 What all should I check?



 ARS. 7.0 Patch 5

 DatabaseOracle 9i





 Regards

 Ankur













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Re: Unable to retrieve data from a form

2008-06-18 Thread Grooms, Frederick W
What table do you have on the form?  It still sounds like an index
problem (Either you are missing an index on the B table or your
selection query for your table on the form is not using an index).
 
Since you are on Oracle I have a script you can use to verify if all
tables have their primary (Remedy defined), and User defined indexes.
 
Fred



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Sent: Wednesday, June 18, 2008 5:15 AM
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Subject: Re: Unable to retrieve data from a form


Hi Guys,
 
Another thing which I forgot to mention, the status bar at the bottom
does show that it found the record and it gets stuck saying Refreshing
table up to Administrator`s limit
 
 
Ankur




From: Ankur Gulati 
Sent: 18 June 2008 03:30 PM
To: 'arslist@ARSLIST.ORG'
Subject: Unable to retrieve data from a form


Hi Listers,
 
We have a form which has 5 BLOB fields. There are around 67000
records and it takes around 3-4 hrs to search for a single record. I
search on the request_id. We do have couple of other indexes in place
apart on Request ID field.
 

The actual workflow is that an AL does a push field and creates
a new record in a form and then second Set field is fired in same AL
which opens this new record in modify window. So this is where it fails
to open this new record and even if I open the form and search for any
record it takes forever to show up and usually it freezes.
 
I have rebuild the indexes but no improvement. On another form
without no BLOB data and 100+ fields, it takes less than a sec to search
a record.
 
Logs doesn't show anything. AL, SQL and filter log just shows
the perfect creation of new record and then on Display it does show the
opening of the form in SET Operation. 
 
What all should I check? 
 
ARS. 7.0 Patch 5
DatabaseOracle 9i
 
Regards
Ankur


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Re: Unable to retrieve data from a form

2008-06-18 Thread Ankur Gulati
Fred,
 
There are three tables on the form(Email handler Form) 
 
First table is attachment table, this brings the attachment to this form
from another form. 
Second table is the attachment pool.
Third table fetches the data from AR System Email Attachment Join.
 
I have also turned down the table refreshes on display. No Improvement. 
 
I'd be glad if you can fwd me the script to check indexes on tables.
 
Regards
Ankur




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Sent: 18 June 2008 07:31 PM
To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
Subject: Re: Unable to retrieve data from a form


** 
What table do you have on the form?  It still sounds like an
index problem (Either you are missing an index on the B table or your
selection query for your table on the form is not using an index).
 
Since you are on Oracle I have a script you can use to verify if
all tables have their primary (Remedy defined), and User defined
indexes.
 
Fred



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Subject: Re: Unable to retrieve data from a form



Hi Guys,
 
Another thing which I forgot to mention, the status bar at the
bottom does show that it found the record and it gets stuck saying
Refreshing table up to Administrator`s limit
 
 
Ankur




From: Ankur Gulati 
Sent: 18 June 2008 03:30 PM
To: 'arslist@ARSLIST.ORG'
Subject: Unable to retrieve data from a form


Hi Listers,
 
We have a form which has 5 BLOB fields. There are around
67000 records and it takes around 3-4 hrs to search for a single record.
I search on the request_id. We do have couple of other indexes in place
apart on Request ID field.
 

The actual workflow is that an AL does a push field and
creates a new record in a form and then second Set field is fired in
same AL which opens this new record in modify window. So this is where
it fails to open this new record and even if I open the form and search
for any record it takes forever to show up and usually it freezes.
 
I have rebuild the indexes but no improvement. On
another form without no BLOB data and 100+ fields, it takes less than a
sec to search a record.
 
Logs doesn't show anything. AL, SQL and filter log just
shows the perfect creation of new record and then on Display it does
show the opening of the form in SET Operation. 
 
What all should I check? 
 
ARS. 7.0 Patch 5
DatabaseOracle 9i
 
Regards
Ankur

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Re: Unable to retrieve data from a form

2008-06-18 Thread Ankur Gulati
Thank you for the script Fred,
 
All the concerned B Table indexes are coming up as Valid. The selection
query for the table does use indexed fields too.
 
Any other things I can check up
 
_
Ankur




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Subject: Re: Unable to retrieve data from a form


** 
Fred,
 
There are three tables on the form(Email handler Form) 
 
First table is attachment table, this brings the attachment to
this form from another form. 
Second table is the attachment pool.
Third table fetches the data from AR System Email Attachment
Join.
 
I have also turned down the table refreshes on display. No
Improvement. 
 
I'd be glad if you can fwd me the script to check indexes on
tables.
 
Regards
Ankur




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Sent: 18 June 2008 07:31 PM
To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
Subject: Re: Unable to retrieve data from a form


** 
What table do you have on the form?  It still sounds
like an index problem (Either you are missing an index on the B table or
your selection query for your table on the form is not using an index).
 
Since you are on Oracle I have a script you can use to
verify if all tables have their primary (Remedy defined), and User
defined indexes.
 
Fred



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To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
Subject: Re: Unable to retrieve data from a form



Hi Guys,
 
Another thing which I forgot to mention, the status bar
at the bottom does show that it found the record and it gets stuck
saying Refreshing table up to Administrator`s limit
 
 
Ankur




From: Ankur Gulati 
Sent: 18 June 2008 03:30 PM
To: 'arslist@ARSLIST.ORG'
Subject: Unable to retrieve data from a form


Hi Listers,
 
We have a form which has 5 BLOB fields. There
are around 67000 records and it takes around 3-4 hrs to search for a
single record. I search on the request_id. We do have couple of other
indexes in place apart on Request ID field.
 

The actual workflow is that an AL does a push
field and creates a new record in a form and then second Set field is
fired in same AL which opens this new record in modify window. So this
is where it fails to open this new record and even if I open the form
and search for any record it takes forever to show up and usually it
freezes.
 
I have rebuild the indexes but no improvement.
On another form without no BLOB data and 100+ fields, it takes less than
a sec to search a record.
 
Logs doesn't show anything. AL, SQL and filter
log just shows the perfect creation of new record and then on Display it
does show the opening of the form in SET Operation. 
 
What all should I check? 
 
ARS. 7.0 Patch 5
DatabaseOracle 9i
 
Regards
Ankur

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Re: Unable to retrieve data from a form

2008-06-18 Thread Grooms, Frederick W
From the User tool turn on logging (at least API and Database) and see
what SQL statement is the one taking so long



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Subject: Re: Unable to retrieve data from a form


Thank you for the script Fred,
 
All the concerned B Table indexes are coming up as Valid. The selection
query for the table does use indexed fields too.
 
Any other things I can check up
 
_
Ankur




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To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
Subject: Re: Unable to retrieve data from a form



Fred,
 
There are three tables on the form(Email handler Form) 
 
First table is attachment table, this brings the attachment to
this form from another form. 
Second table is the attachment pool.
Third table fetches the data from AR System Email Attachment
Join.
 
I have also turned down the table refreshes on display. No
Improvement. 
 
I'd be glad if you can fwd me the script to check indexes on
tables.
 
Regards
Ankur




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Sent: 18 June 2008 07:31 PM
To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
Subject: Re: Unable to retrieve data from a form



What table do you have on the form?  It still sounds
like an index problem (Either you are missing an index on the B table or
your selection query for your table on the form is not using an index).
 
Since you are on Oracle I have a script you can use to
verify if all tables have their primary (Remedy defined), and User
defined indexes.
 
Fred



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Sent: Wednesday, June 18, 2008 5:15 AM
To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
Subject: Re: Unable to retrieve data from a form



Hi Guys,
 
Another thing which I forgot to mention, the status bar
at the bottom does show that it found the record and it gets stuck
saying Refreshing table up to Administrator`s limit
 
 
Ankur




From: Ankur Gulati 
Sent: 18 June 2008 03:30 PM
To: 'arslist@ARSLIST.ORG'
Subject: Unable to retrieve data from a form


Hi Listers,
 
We have a form which has 5 BLOB fields. There
are around 67000 records and it takes around 3-4 hrs to search for a
single record. I search on the request_id. We do have couple of other
indexes in place apart on Request ID field.
 

The actual workflow is that an AL does a push
field and creates a new record in a form and then second Set field is
fired in same AL which opens this new record in modify window. So this
is where it fails to open this new record and even if I open the form
and search for any record it takes forever to show up and usually it
freezes.
 
I have rebuild the indexes but no improvement.
On another form without no BLOB data and 100+ fields, it takes less than
a sec to search a record.
 
Logs doesn't show anything. AL, SQL and filter
log just shows the perfect creation of new record and then on Display it
does show the opening of the form in SET Operation. 
 
What all should I check? 
 
ARS. 7.0 Patch 5
DatabaseOracle 9i
 
Regards
Ankur  

   

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Re: Unable to retrieve data from a form

2008-06-18 Thread Axton
Turn on the client side sql logging to see where it stops, then go from there.

Axton Grams

On Wed, Jun 18, 2008 at 6:14 AM, Ankur Gulati [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 **
 Hi Guys,

 Another thing which I forgot to mention, the status bar at the bottom does
 show that it found the record and it gets stuck saying Refreshing table up
 to Administrator`s limit


 Ankur

 
 From: Ankur Gulati
 Sent: 18 June 2008 03:30 PM
 To: 'arslist@ARSLIST.ORG'
 Subject: Unable to retrieve data from a form

 Hi Listers,

 We have a form which has 5 BLOB fields. There are around 67000 records and
 it takes around 3-4 hrs to search for a single record. I search on the
 request_id. We do have couple of other indexes in place apart on Request ID
 field.

 The actual workflow is that an AL does a push field and creates a new record
 in a form and then second Set field is fired in same AL which opens this new
 record in modify window. So this is where it fails to open this new record
 and even if I open the form and search for any record it takes forever to
 show up and usually it freezes.

 I have rebuild the indexes but no improvement. On another form without no
 BLOB data and 100+ fields, it takes less than a sec to search a record.

 Logs doesn't show anything. AL, SQL and filter log just shows the perfect
 creation of new record and then on Display it does show the opening of the
 form in SET Operation.

 What all should I check?

 ARS. 7.0 Patch 5
 DatabaseOracle 9i


 Regards
 Ankur







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