Re: Using Struct Admin in Dev Studio
Jason, Developer Studio queries forms listed in the documentation for various purposes. Since struct admin user does not have permissions to these forms and their fields by default, you get that error. You must create a group and then assign struct admin user to this group (along with struct admin group, which you have already done). Next, using arpermission utility you must add this group to all forms listed in the document and to their fields as well. Alternatively you may log-in into Developer Studio as administrator and use bulk edit to assign permissions to forms and their fields. ~ aniruddha ___ UNSUBSCRIBE or access ARSlist Archives at www.arslist.org Where the Answers Are, and have been for 20 years
Re: Using Struct Admin in Dev Studio
Interesting, it sounds very similar to granting sub-administrator permissions: not only does the user need to belong to the generic security group (Sub Administrator or Struct Admin) but they must also belong to another group that has permissions to the appropriate objects. I wasn't aware of the arpermission utility before, it sounds like it could come in handy for me in the future so thanks for mentioning it. -Rick ___ Rick Westbrock QMX Support Services -Original Message- From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) [mailto:arslist@ARSLIST.ORG] On Behalf Of Aniruddha Deshpande Sent: Tuesday, April 02, 2013 23:14 PM To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG Subject: Re: Using Struct Admin in Dev Studio Jason, Developer Studio queries forms listed in the documentation for various purposes. Since struct admin user does not have permissions to these forms and their fields by default, you get that error. You must create a group and then assign struct admin user to this group (along with struct admin group, which you have already done). Next, using arpermission utility you must add this group to all forms listed in the document and to their fields as well. Alternatively you may log-in into Developer Studio as administrator and use bulk edit to assign permissions to forms and their fields. ~ aniruddha ___ UNSUBSCRIBE or access ARSlist Archives at www.arslist.org Where the Answers Are, and have been for 20 years ___ UNSUBSCRIBE or access ARSlist Archives at www.arslist.org Where the Answers Are, and have been for 20 years
Re: Using Struct Admin in Dev Studio
Thank you Aniruddha very much for verifying this. Like Rick I was not familiar with the arpermission utility. I found it along with the documentation text file in the ARSystem directory. The two things I was stumbling were: 1) that I have to create a group other than Struct Admin to grant permissions to the AR System forms rather than being able to grant the Struct Admin group permissions directly. I read the documentation that I needed to create a group but it didn't occur what I needed to do with that group because I couldn't figure out how to assign the group to StructAdmin. The second sentence also states Struct Admin group needs access to all of those forms/fields. When assigning Struct Admin permissions, you will need to create a group to provide access to the objects from the schema and assign it to StructAdmin. The following table lists all objects the Struct Admin permissions group must provide. Now that I read it again a little differently I see what it means. Basically it is a combination of two groups that grant access. (I haven't used Sub Administrator in years so I forgot about this) 2) it seemed odd that I would have to modify the permission of out of the box forms to make this out of the box group/feature work. I figured the permission for Struct Admin would be baked in and wanted to verify before overlaying all of those forms/fields. It seems like more customization than should be required. Thanks! Jason On Tue, Apr 2, 2013 at 11:13 PM, Aniruddha Deshpande arun.d...@gmail.comwrote: Jason, Developer Studio queries forms listed in the documentation for various purposes. Since struct admin user does not have permissions to these forms and their fields by default, you get that error. You must create a group and then assign struct admin user to this group (along with struct admin group, which you have already done). Next, using arpermission utility you must add this group to all forms listed in the document and to their fields as well. Alternatively you may log-in into Developer Studio as administrator and use bulk edit to assign permissions to forms and their fields. ~ aniruddha ___ UNSUBSCRIBE or access ARSlist Archives at www.arslist.org Where the Answers Are, and have been for 20 years ___ UNSUBSCRIBE or access ARSlist Archives at www.arslist.org Where the Answers Are, and have been for 20 years
Re: Using Struct Admin in Dev Studio
Has anybody worked with Struct Admin? I am figuring I am missing one little detail. Jason On Thu, Mar 28, 2013 at 5:00 PM, Jason Miller jason.mil...@gmail.comwrote: That is what I am looking for. I want to give a developer access to code but not be an admin giving them access to all data and be able to change server config. I believe Struct Admin is what I am looking for but can't figure out why Dev Studio says the user I am testing with needs to be an Administrator. Jason On Thu, Mar 28, 2013 at 3:35 PM, Longwing, Lj llongw...@usgs.gov wrote: ** Jason, If I remember correctly, strict admin lets you modify the structure (dev studio), but is not a data permission On Wednesday, March 27, 2013, Jason Miller jason.mil...@gmail.com wrote: ** ARS 8.1, no ITSM. This is the first time I have tried to limit an account's access using Struct Admin permissions. Am I reading this correctly that before this will work I need to modify out of the box AR form permissions? https://docs.bmc.com/docs/display/public/ars81/Struct+Admin+group+permissions I created a user record and gave it only the Struct Admin group (8) and get the following when I try to open the forms Object List in Dev Studio. Unable to retrieve Forms from servername. com.bmc.arsys.studio.model.ModelException: ERROR (304): Must have Administrative permission to perform this operation; (ARERR 5087) Has anybody else had success with Struct Admin? Thanks, Jason _ARSlist: Where the Answers Are and have been for 20 years_ _ARSlist: Where the Answers Are and have been for 20 years_ ___ UNSUBSCRIBE or access ARSlist Archives at www.arslist.org Where the Answers Are, and have been for 20 years
Re: Using Struct Admin in Dev Studio
Jason, If I remember correctly, strict admin lets you modify the structure (dev studio), but is not a data permission On Wednesday, March 27, 2013, Jason Miller jason.mil...@gmail.com wrote: ** ARS 8.1, no ITSM. This is the first time I have tried to limit an account's access using Struct Admin permissions. Am I reading this correctly that before this will work I need to modify out of the box AR form permissions? https://docs.bmc.com/docs/display/public/ars81/Struct+Admin+group+permissions I created a user record and gave it only the Struct Admin group (8) and get the following when I try to open the forms Object List in Dev Studio. Unable to retrieve Forms from servername. com.bmc.arsys.studio.model.ModelException: ERROR (304): Must have Administrative permission to perform this operation; (ARERR 5087) Has anybody else had success with Struct Admin? Thanks, Jason _ARSlist: Where the Answers Are and have been for 20 years_ ___ UNSUBSCRIBE or access ARSlist Archives at www.arslist.org Where the Answers Are, and have been for 20 years
Re: Using Struct Admin in Dev Studio
That is what I am looking for. I want to give a developer access to code but not be an admin giving them access to all data and be able to change server config. I believe Struct Admin is what I am looking for but can't figure out why Dev Studio says the user I am testing with needs to be an Administrator. Jason On Thu, Mar 28, 2013 at 3:35 PM, Longwing, Lj llongw...@usgs.gov wrote: ** Jason, If I remember correctly, strict admin lets you modify the structure (dev studio), but is not a data permission On Wednesday, March 27, 2013, Jason Miller jason.mil...@gmail.com wrote: ** ARS 8.1, no ITSM. This is the first time I have tried to limit an account's access using Struct Admin permissions. Am I reading this correctly that before this will work I need to modify out of the box AR form permissions? https://docs.bmc.com/docs/display/public/ars81/Struct+Admin+group+permissions I created a user record and gave it only the Struct Admin group (8) and get the following when I try to open the forms Object List in Dev Studio. Unable to retrieve Forms from servername. com.bmc.arsys.studio.model.ModelException: ERROR (304): Must have Administrative permission to perform this operation; (ARERR 5087) Has anybody else had success with Struct Admin? Thanks, Jason _ARSlist: Where the Answers Are and have been for 20 years_ _ARSlist: Where the Answers Are and have been for 20 years_ ___ UNSUBSCRIBE or access ARSlist Archives at www.arslist.org Where the Answers Are, and have been for 20 years
Using Struct Admin in Dev Studio
ARS 8.1, no ITSM. This is the first time I have tried to limit an account's access using Struct Admin permissions. Am I reading this correctly that before this will work I need to modify out of the box AR form permissions? https://docs.bmc.com/docs/display/public/ars81/Struct +Admin+group+permissions I created a user record and gave it only the Struct Admin group (8) and get the following when I try to open the forms Object List in Dev Studio. Unable to retrieve Forms from *servername*. com.bmc.arsys.studio.model.ModelException: ERROR (304): Must have Administrative permission to perform this operation; (ARERR 5087) Has anybody else had success with Struct Admin? Thanks, Jason ___ UNSUBSCRIBE or access ARSlist Archives at www.arslist.org Where the Answers Are, and have been for 20 years
