Re: Window Load

2006-10-17 Thread L. J. Head
No and Yeseverything is completed loading when the button is
pressedso all AL's are done...Yes I have on submit set to keep previous 


L. J. Head
Software Engineer
Remedy Approved Consultant
-Original Message-
From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList)
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Carey Matthew Black
Sent: Tuesday, October 17, 2006 5:54 AM
To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
Subject: Re: Window Load

LJ,

Is the commit changes happening before the On Loaded active links?
What is the user preferences settings for On Submit set to? (Keep
previous?)

--
Carey Matthew Black
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ARS = Action Request System(Remedy)

Love, then teach
Solution = People + Process + Tools
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On 10/17/06, L. J. Head [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 **

 I'm having an interesting issue I was hoping you folks have come 
 across before.  I have a button that sets some values and then 
 performs a Commit Changes action.  I am seeing some strange actions 
 however.  I see the start of the button AL's

 ACTL /* Mon Oct 16 2006 22:08:43 */
 ACTL Start active link processing -- Operation - On Control ACTL 
 /* Mon Oct 16 2006 22:08:43 */ ACTL --1-- Start active link 
 processing -- Operation - On Loaded ACTL /* Mon Oct 16 2006 22:08:43 
 */ ACTL --1-- Stop active link processing - On Loaded ACTL /* Mon 
 Oct 16 2006 22:08:44 */ ACTL Stop active link processing - On 
 Control

 the thing I'm not understanding is why the On Loaded AL's are 
 firingthis is happening in a regular form in create mode.  No 
 windows are opening when this button is pressed.  Nothing in the 
 manual is saying why a button press causing a 'commit changes' which 
 causes a submit should cause window loaded actions to fireyour 
 help is appreciated


 L. J. Head
 Software Engineer
 Remedy Approved Consultant


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Re: Window Load

2006-10-17 Thread Carey Matthew Black

LJ,

What I mean is this...

What should the User Tool do after it submits a record?
 (The answer depends on what the User Preferences say to do.)

If the button workflow has something like the following then the
described behaviour makes perfect sense to me.


1) Button is clicked to trigger workflow like the following...

Set fields...

Push fields...
( do stuff ...)

Commit changes
 -- Submit record to DB
 -- Process what the Client should do after submitting a record

And if needed, continue on and process any Button triggered workflow
that was defined to be processed after the Commit Changes
action/Active link.


Note: If you change the user preferences you may see Set Default
active links fire. (If there are any of those on the form.)


I have not tested to confirm this... but I think the progression is
something like...

Behaviour for On Submit
Clear all -- on Loaded trigger after fields are cleared.
Keep previous field values -- on Loaded trigger (no values changed)
Set Fields to Default Values --Set default triggered, then on Loaded trigger

--
Carey Matthew Black
Remedy Skilled Professional (RSP)
ARS = Action Request System(Remedy)

Love, then teach
Solution = People + Process + Tools
Fast, Accurate, Cheap Pick two.


On 10/17/06, L. J. Head [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

No and Yeseverything is completed loading when the button is
pressedso all AL's are done...Yes I have on submit set to keep previous


L. J. Head
Software Engineer
Remedy Approved Consultant
-Original Message-
From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList)
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Carey Matthew Black
Sent: Tuesday, October 17, 2006 5:54 AM
To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
Subject: Re: Window Load

LJ,

Is the commit changes happening before the On Loaded active links?
What is the user preferences settings for On Submit set to? (Keep
previous?)

--
Carey Matthew Black
Remedy Skilled Professional (RSP)
ARS = Action Request System(Remedy)

Love, then teach
Solution = People + Process + Tools
Fast, Accurate, Cheap Pick two.


On 10/17/06, L. J. Head [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 **

 I'm having an interesting issue I was hoping you folks have come
 across before.  I have a button that sets some values and then
 performs a Commit Changes action.  I am seeing some strange actions
 however.  I see the start of the button AL's

 ACTL /* Mon Oct 16 2006 22:08:43 */
 ACTL Start active link processing -- Operation - On Control ACTL
 /* Mon Oct 16 2006 22:08:43 */ ACTL --1-- Start active link
 processing -- Operation - On Loaded ACTL /* Mon Oct 16 2006 22:08:43
 */ ACTL --1-- Stop active link processing - On Loaded ACTL /* Mon
 Oct 16 2006 22:08:44 */ ACTL Stop active link processing - On
 Control

 the thing I'm not understanding is why the On Loaded AL's are
 firingthis is happening in a regular form in create mode.  No
 windows are opening when this button is pressed.  Nothing in the
 manual is saying why a button press causing a 'commit changes' which
 causes a submit should cause window loaded actions to fireyour
 help is appreciated


 L. J. Head
 Software Engineer
 Remedy Approved Consultant


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Re: Window Load

2006-10-17 Thread L. J. Head
I see your point...I hadn't thought of what happens after the submitI
had never thought of something happening to an existing window after a
submit is performed...that is likely what is causing it.  Thank you 


L. J. Head
Software Engineer
Remedy Approved Consultant
-Original Message-
From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList)
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Carey Matthew Black
Sent: Tuesday, October 17, 2006 7:04 AM
To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
Subject: Re: Window Load

LJ,

What I mean is this...

What should the User Tool do after it submits a record?
  (The answer depends on what the User Preferences say to do.)

If the button workflow has something like the following then the described
behaviour makes perfect sense to me.


1) Button is clicked to trigger workflow like the following...

Set fields...

Push fields...
( do stuff ...)

Commit changes
  -- Submit record to DB
  -- Process what the Client should do after submitting a record

And if needed, continue on and process any Button triggered workflow that
was defined to be processed after the Commit Changes
action/Active link.


Note: If you change the user preferences you may see Set Default
active links fire. (If there are any of those on the form.)


I have not tested to confirm this... but I think the progression is
something like...

Behaviour for On Submit
 Clear all -- on Loaded trigger after fields are cleared.
 Keep previous field values -- on Loaded trigger (no values changed)
Set Fields to Default Values --Set default triggered, then on Loaded
trigger

--
Carey Matthew Black
Remedy Skilled Professional (RSP)
ARS = Action Request System(Remedy)

Love, then teach
Solution = People + Process + Tools
Fast, Accurate, Cheap Pick two.


On 10/17/06, L. J. Head [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 No and Yeseverything is completed loading when the button is 
 pressedso all AL's are done...Yes I have on submit set to keep 
 previous


 L. J. Head
 Software Engineer
 Remedy Approved Consultant
 -Original Message-
 From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) 
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Carey Matthew Black
 Sent: Tuesday, October 17, 2006 5:54 AM
 To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
 Subject: Re: Window Load

 LJ,

 Is the commit changes happening before the On Loaded active links?
 What is the user preferences settings for On Submit set to? (Keep
 previous?)

 --
 Carey Matthew Black
 Remedy Skilled Professional (RSP)
 ARS = Action Request System(Remedy)

 Love, then teach
 Solution = People + Process + Tools
 Fast, Accurate, Cheap Pick two.


 On 10/17/06, L. J. Head [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  **
 
  I'm having an interesting issue I was hoping you folks have come 
  across before.  I have a button that sets some values and then 
  performs a Commit Changes action.  I am seeing some strange 
  actions however.  I see the start of the button AL's
 
  ACTL /* Mon Oct 16 2006 22:08:43 */ ACTL Start active link 
  processing -- Operation - On Control ACTL
  /* Mon Oct 16 2006 22:08:43 */ ACTL --1-- Start active link 
  processing -- Operation - On Loaded ACTL /* Mon Oct 16 2006 
  22:08:43 */ ACTL --1-- Stop active link processing - On Loaded 
  ACTL /* Mon Oct 16 2006 22:08:44 */ ACTL Stop active link 
  processing - On Control
 
  the thing I'm not understanding is why the On Loaded AL's are 
  firingthis is happening in a regular form in create mode.  No 
  windows are opening when this button is pressed.  Nothing in the 
  manual is saying why a button press causing a 'commit changes' which 
  causes a submit should cause window loaded actions to fireyour 
  help is appreciated
 
 
  L. J. Head
  Software Engineer
  Remedy Approved Consultant

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