Hi Patrick,

Thank you for your help. It is indeed very difficult to achieve inversion of 
temperature and humidity profiles under cloud conditions. I have another 
question, is it in the planetary toolbox that the best way to use it is iyFOS 
or iyDOTIT? IyMC seems too slow.

















At 2023-11-06 15:52:08, "Patrick Eriksson" <patrick.eriks...@chalmers.se> wrote:
>Hi,
>
>Very hard to answer without more specific information what you want to do.
>
>If you want to do OEM-type inversion involving scattering, then iyHybrid 
>is the only option inside ARTS. It is reasonable fast, if used with e.g. 
>DISORT.
>
>DISORT is the fastest scattering solver inside ARTS, but has several 
>limitations.
>
>iyMC is the slowest, but still the one to use for 3D calculations.
>
>To retrieve atmospheric temperature or humidity with scattering present 
>is a very hard problem.
>
>Bye,
>
>Patruick
>
>
>
>On 2023-11-02 13:44, suifengbenpao2023 wrote:
>> Hi Patrick,
>> 
>> Thanks again for your help! Is the iymc method generally slower than the 
>> iydoit method? If the radiative transfer rate calculated by the scattering 
>> method is very slow, does it mean that it is difficult to invert the 
>> atmospheric temperature and humidity profile from the scattering scene? Is 
>> there a quick way to calculate scattering?
>> 
>> Looking forward to your reply again, thanks!
>> 
>> Sincerely,
>> 
>> Jiaan He.
>> 
>> At 2023-11-02 16:15:43, "Patrick Eriksson" <patrick.eriks...@chalmers.se> 
>> wrote:
>>>Hi,
>>>
>>>In general, it works perfectly fine to use PlanckBT from start. But 
>>>could depend on the calibration of the instrument you simulate.
>>>
>>>There is one exception, and that's iyMC. It does not accept PlanckBT, 
>>>just RJBT.
>>>
>>>Bye,
>>>
>>>Patrick
>>>
>>>
>>>On 2023-11-02 08:42, suifengbenpao2023 wrote:
>>>> Hi Patrick,
>>>> 
>>>> Thank you for your help! Based on your suggestion, I will no longer use 
>>>> iyfos and instead use iyMC to handle scattering situations. But I have 
>>>> another question that confuses me. I often see routines that use 
>>>> StringSet (iy_unit, "1") for unit conversion before calculating 
>>>> scattering, and then ultimately convert to StringSet (iy_unit, 
>>>> "PlanckBT"). Why do we do this? Can't we just switch to Planck 
>>>> brightness temperature?
>>>> 
>>>> Looking forward to your reply again, thanks!
>>>> 
>>>> Sincerely,
>>>> Jiaan He.
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> At 2023-11-02 14:17:07, "Patrick Eriksson" <patrick.eriks...@chalmers.se> 
>>>> wrote:
>>>>>Hi,
>>>>>
>>>>>FOS is "dead" and no plans to get it back to live.
>>>>>
>>>>>A main reason for starting FOS was to have scattering calculations, 
>>>>>providing the Jacobian. This was newer completed. Instead, also iyHybrid 
>>>>>was started and that method provides a Jacobian (not the totally full 
>>>>>one, but seems to be good enough).
>>>>>
>>>>>Bye,
>>>>>
>>>>>Patrick
>>>>>
>>>>>On 2023-11-02 01:20, suifengbenpao2023 wrote:
>>>>>> Dear ARTS community,
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> I am dealing with scattering situations and have used the iyFOS method 
>>>>>> in Arts-2.2 version, but there is no FOS method in Arts-2.4. May I ask 
>>>>>> if the method name has changed? I know and have consulted relevant 
>>>>>> literature on MC and DOIT methods, but is there any reference to FOS 
>>>>>> methods?
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Looking forward to your reply!Thank you!
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Best wishes,
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Jiaan He

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